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| kanzure | sometimes, yes | 00:02 |
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| CIA-43 | pyscholar: kanzure master * rfc0733b / (8 files): added files to test metadata-extraction-fu on - http://bit.ly/4vKT1 | 00:11 |
| bkero | My fridge is stocked with a delicious 6 pack of Oregon microbrew, and a quadrouple Rockstar. Which one do I drink tonight? | 00:31 |
| fenn | the one that isn't poisoned | 00:32 |
| splicer_ | (all off them) | 00:41 |
| bkero | Note to self: The fireplace you put your wireless router in acts as a FARADAY CAGE. | 00:58 |
| bkero | I want to CAD myself a kotatsu tonight I think. | 00:59 |
| fenn | i often get mad at the router but it doesn't make me want to burn it | 00:59 |
| bkero | Landlord sez I'm not allowed to use the fireplace | 00:59 |
| bkero | So I stuck my fileserver and wireless routers in it. | 01:00 |
| fenn | http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/sugegasa/scene/Kotatsu/kotatsu01.jpg | 01:00 |
| QuantumG | Ten Year Old Child Produces Homemade Aerogels http://adzoe.8m.com/Aerogelsa.htm | 01:02 |
| katsmeow-afk | when will he be out of homeland security jail? | 01:03 |
| katsmeow-afk | or she | 01:03 |
| QuantumG | the article probably fails to mention that his dad is a professor or an aerospace engineer or something. | 01:04 |
| katsmeow-afk | shake up a bottle of sodapop and flash freeze the bubbles? | 01:04 |
| bkero | katsmeow-afk: I don't exactly have the equipment to do any flash freezing :/ | 01:06 |
| bkero | I could sneak some liquid helium or liquid nitrogen out of the lab. :) | 01:06 |
| katsmeow-afk | find a way to add it to water like a drink fountain adds co2, then simply dropthepressure and scrap off fozen bubbles :-) | 01:08 |
| bkero | Delicious frozen bubbles. | 01:08 |
| bkero | Much better than the bust-a-move clone. | 01:08 |
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| QuantumG | kanzure: you might like this, http://www.quantumg.net/mockingbird.pdf | 01:42 |
| nsh | http://partsregistry.org/Main_Page | 08:05 |
| nsh | from: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2009/jul/24/bacteria-computer | 08:05 |
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| kanzure | nsh: surely you knew about the biobricks part registry before? | 10:47 |
| kanzure | nsh: do you want my rip of it? | 10:47 |
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| kanzure | hm so I can do packages.__builtin__.ScienceDirect() but not packages.ScienceDirect() | 11:53 |
| CIA-43 | pyscholar: kanzure master * r8fb76ff / (3 files): packages implemented.. sort of. using exec(), please shoot me now. - http://bit.ly/2SfuxZ | 12:05 |
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| kanzure | fenn: Emil's offering to drive over to Steve Jakson Games for the Austin Intelligentsia meetup at 4 pm tonight. I don't know if he knows that it's not the actual Alcor meeting. you want to come? | 12:14 |
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| fenn | meh, ok. i have the sinking feeling like i'm about to attend sunday school | 12:38 |
| fenn | 10kg reusable ssto launched from the back of a truck?? | 12:39 |
| kanzure | thought it was just carried by the truck | 12:40 |
| kanzure | I'm also confused as to whether or not this is just a proposal or if they actually built it | 12:41 |
| kanzure | javascript makes no sense. why define functions within functions? | 12:42 |
| kanzure | er is this invalid python? | 12:50 |
| kanzure | while (next_row = rows.iterateNext()): | 12:50 |
| fenn | no | 12:50 |
| kanzure | python claims it's invalid | 12:50 |
| fenn | assignment doesnt return a value | 12:50 |
| fenn | oops, i mean yes it's invalid | 12:50 |
| * kanzure facepalms | 12:50 | |
| fenn | you should just make a real iterator | 12:53 |
| fenn | def __iter__(self): yield self.next() | 12:55 |
| fenn | sth like that | 12:55 |
| CIA-43 | pyscholar: kanzure master * rc4ce298 / (5 files in 2 dirs): ScienceDirect unit test for detectWeb - http://bit.ly/e8xRv | 13:17 |
| kanzure | "Seekers of the Singularity" sounds like a terrible name for a cult | 13:19 |
| kanzure | http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Solvent tool to help write XPath strings via firefox | 13:39 |
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| kanzure | this is harder than it should be | 13:43 |
| kanzure | how do I go about downgrading firefox to 2.x? | 13:43 |
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| kanzure | aha: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/ | 13:49 |
| kanzure | that only took forever to find | 13:49 |
| genehacker2 | are you in LA yet? | 13:51 |
| kanzure | no | 13:51 |
| kanzure | bwahah: http://snapshot.debian.net/package/firefox | 13:53 |
| fenn | why are you messing with firefox? | 13:53 |
| fenn | something to do with pyscholar, but still, doesnt seem like you'd need firefox just to do javascript? | 13:54 |
| fenn | "pronounced zoh-TAIR-oh" | 13:55 |
| kanzure | the solvent extension for firefox 2.x lets you do GUI magic to figure out the xpath for scraping information from a page | 13:56 |
| kanzure | it's possible to figure it out manually if you have the balls for it | 13:56 |
| fenn | not like that will reverse the conditioning from millions of time you've read it wrong | 13:56 |
| kanzure | "TAIR"? | 13:56 |
| fenn | what's an xpath? | 13:56 |
| fenn | like tear a piece of paper | 13:56 |
| kanzure | tear is the eyedrop thingy | 13:57 |
| fenn | no | 13:57 |
| kanzure | an xpath is something like /html/body[@id="gsr"]/div[@id="res"]/div[1]/h3/a | 13:57 |
| kanzure | it addresses elements within an XHTML document | 13:57 |
| fenn | i dont believe i've ever seen such a thing | 13:57 |
| fenn | but it sounds simple enu | 13:58 |
| fenn | enough* | 13:58 |
| fenn | can you get attributes like bounding box? | 13:58 |
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| kanzure | fenn: it can get attributes, yes | 13:59 |
| kanzure | what is a bounding box, though? in this context | 13:59 |
| fenn | er, divs are rectangular for the most part right? | 13:59 |
| kanzure | divs do not necessarily have a shape | 13:59 |
| fenn | :( | 13:59 |
| kanzure | that's CSS voodoo | 13:59 |
| kanzure | you could search for a div where it has some particular CSS class | 14:00 |
| kanzure | i.e. html/body/blah/div[@class="some_class_here"] | 14:00 |
| kanzure | aha, xpather is what I want | 14:03 |
| kanzure | http://xpath.alephzarro.com/documentation | 14:04 |
| CIA-43 | pyscholar: kanzure master * r569ee99 / gsearch.py : gsearch - http://bit.ly/n9v2U | 14:08 |
| CIA-43 | pyscholar: kanzure master * r5d41cd8 / (3 files in 2 dirs): working on doWeb - http://bit.ly/YaQ0 | 14:08 |
| kanzure | aha. here's the XPath for ScienceDirect search results: /html/body/div[1]/div/div[@id='sdBody']/div/div[@id='rightCol']/div/div[@id='searchResults']/div[@id='bodyMainResults']/table/tbody/tr/td[2] | 14:26 |
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| genehacker2 | what's an XPath? | 14:33 |
| kanzure | an xpath is something like /html/body[@id="gsr"]/div[@id="res"]/div[1]/h3/a | 14:35 |
| kanzure | it addresses elements within an XHTML document | 14:35 |
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| kanzure | hey Smari | 15:00 |
| fenn | hmm. why is there a reprap-michigan mailing list but no reprap mailing list? | 15:14 |
| CIA-43 | pyscholar: kanzure master * r9c45df3 / sciencedirect-notes.py : successfully parse ScienceDirect search result pages - http://bit.ly/jKuUy | 15:17 |
| CIA-43 | pyscholar: kanzure master * rf63274d / gsearch.py : er, kinda necessary for sciencedirect-notes.py - http://bit.ly/sv2ub | 15:23 |
| Smari | hi | 15:29 |
| CIA-43 | pyscholar: kanzure master * r7b36aa3 / (2 files in 2 dirs): sciencedirect-notes.py output example added - http://bit.ly/wTIZx | 15:35 |
| Smari | wtf | 15:37 |
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| kanzure | Smari: ? | 15:39 |
| Smari | know any solutions to random stalling on scp? | 15:40 |
| kanzure | I sometimes get some stalling near the end of my file transfers with scp. Not sure why. | 15:40 |
| Smari | mhm | 15:40 |
| Smari | what's the most reliable way to transfer files between computers in your opinion? Needn't be encrypted. | 15:41 |
| kanzure | sftp? | 15:46 |
| Smari | which is mostly the same as scp | 15:46 |
| genehacker2 | Secure Contain Protect? | 15:48 |
| fenn | smari: wget -c | 15:59 |
| fenn | or bittorrent | 15:59 |
| Smari | wget requires there to be a webserver. Bittorrent needs even crazier infrastructure... | 16:00 |
| fenn | scp requires an ssh daemon; are you saying a webserver is harder to set up? | 16:01 |
| Smari | I suppose not | 16:01 |
| Smari | It just seems like this kind of thing happens often enough that there should be a really simple and neat way to do this that doesn't involve Samba. | 16:03 |
| genehacker2 | what's the safest way to torrent | 16:14 |
| Smari | wearing a condom. | 16:19 |
| Smari | *shrug* | 16:19 |
| nsh | NFS | 16:29 |
| nsh | is probably the "simplest" | 16:29 |
| nsh | well, netcat is probably the simples | 16:29 |
| nsh | t | 16:30 |
| nsh | kanzure, no spare storage for biobricks dump at present, but thanks anyway | 16:30 |
| Smari | netcat is actually rather awesome. | 16:33 |
| genehacker2 | I don't see how that would work? | 16:34 |
| Smari | how what would word? | 16:49 |
| Smari | work? | 16:49 |
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| Smari | If you mean the netcat trick... something like nc -l localhost 2701 | tar -zxv - on the receiving machine and tar -zcv * | nc servername 2701 on the sending machine.. | 16:53 |
| bkero | netcat pipe :) | 16:55 |
| bkero | I much prefer udpcast though | 16:55 |
| bkero | That's how I image entire subnets at once. | 16:55 |
| * nsh smiles | 17:13 | |
| nsh | do you mean broadcast disk images to the subnet, or image the disks on each node? | 17:14 |
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| genehacker_light | back to the lightside | 17:24 |
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| bkero | nsh: Either | 17:41 |
| bkero | nsh: http://code.google.com/p/ganeti/ + http://www.drbd.org/ | 17:41 |
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| kanzure | hello johnnyr | 19:13 |
| johnnyr | hello kanzure | 19:20 |
| kanzure | what's up? | 19:27 |
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| johnnyr | hangin out trying to learn something | 19:31 |
| genehacker_light | anyone know how to make a tone detector circuit | 19:40 |
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| genehacker_light | maybe I don't need a tone detector circuit | 19:45 |
| genehacker_light | I think I just found one | 19:46 |
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| nsh | what did you think you might need one for? | 19:57 |
| genehacker_light | my arm of steam-powered mechanical soldiers of course! | 19:57 |
| genehacker_light | arm--> army | 19:58 |
| genehacker_light | though I have found quite an elegant tone detection circuit | 19:58 |
| genehacker_light | tyndall's sensitive flame | 19:59 |
| nsh | oh, right; silly me | 19:59 |
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| genehacker_light | of course I'll use a modified version of tyndall's flame that doesn't use fuel, but instead a stream of compressed air | 20:00 |
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| CIA-43 | pyscholar: kanzure master * r6ef26a8 / sciencedirect-notes-article.py : more xpaths - http://bit.ly/129aDu | 20:20 |
| CIA-43 | pyscholar: kanzure master * r490b59b / (4 files): more tests for different journals - http://bit.ly/6hTg | 20:31 |
| drazak | kanzure: wheres all your dna synthesis papers? | 20:32 |
| kanzure | here's some: | 20:33 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/phosphoramidites/ | 20:33 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/phosphoramidites.zip | 20:33 |
| kanzure | more could be found here: | 20:33 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/papers-backup-2009-06-02.tar | 20:33 |
| drazak | thanks | 20:33 |
| drazak | man, I'm going to be busy the next 2 weeks | 20:33 |
| drazak | I'm writing 2 research proposals | 20:33 |
| kanzure | why? | 20:34 |
| drazak | well one I'm pretty sure I'm going to get to do, which is finding how to culture rat mesentery endothelial cells, the other maybe or maybe not, it's a microfluidics dna synthesizer | 20:35 |
| kanzure | do you know how you're going to build your dna synthesizer? | 20:36 |
| drazak | well, I'm going to design it, and then maybe get write a grant and then have kepler build it | 20:37 |
| kanzure | kepler? | 20:37 |
| drazak | kepler does some good microfluidics device stuff | 20:37 |
| kanzure | so uh who would fund this? | 20:37 |
| kanzure | I don't understand | 20:37 |
| kanzure | do you just decide to write a grant and harvard gives you money? | 20:37 |
| drazak | well | 20:38 |
| drazak | I'm going to find a lab in buffalo, and write a grant, and they might give me money | 20:38 |
| drazak | they might not | 20:38 |
| * drazak isn't doing shit through harvard | 20:38 | |
| drazak | but I'm sure I can do the other one | 20:39 |
| drazak | as it's part of a larger project | 20:39 |
| CIA-43 | pyscholar: kanzure master * r8ae23ea / (3 files): springerlink search results page - http://bit.ly/hArXC | 20:40 |
| kanzure | soon I'll have to start asking all you jackasses to provide me with some test cases | 20:53 |
| kanzure | to test pyscholar | 20:53 |
| kanzure | ybit, you game? | 20:53 |
| kanzure | anyone else? | 20:55 |
| genehacker_light | yup | 21:00 |
| genehacker_light | ready? | 21:01 |
| kanzure | what? | 21:01 |
| genehacker_light | to test pyscholar? | 21:01 |
| kanzure | currently have: ieee-explore, nature, plos-one, pubmedcentral, pubmed, sciencedirect, springerlink | 21:02 |
| kanzure | anything else? | 21:02 |
| ybit | kanzure: i'm game. | 21:02 |
| kanzure | ok I'll install it on the server | 21:02 |
| ybit | argh, such a waste of time spending an entire day canoeing :-\ | 21:02 |
| ybit | am i the only one who thinks doing ridiculous tasks such as hanging out with old pals is a huge waste of time | 21:03 |
| ybit | if it's not science, i feel it's a waste of time and i kind of don't think that should be happening or is it normal.. | 21:04 |
| genehacker_light | well it can lead to insight about the outside world | 21:04 |
| CIA-43 | pyscholar: kanzure master * rb796d49 / (5 files): more tests - http://bit.ly/5XIqu | 21:04 |
| CIA-43 | pyscholar: kanzure master * r6242139 / (3 files): plosone - http://bit.ly/3yLyPi | 21:04 |
| genehacker_light | for example I happened to learn there's a species of algae that lives in caves on an outing with friends | 21:05 |
| ybit | 'how is the activity advancing mankind' is i guess how judge the importance of the activity | 21:05 |
| ybit | s/the/this | 21:05 |
| genehacker_light | but yeah I can see what you mean | 21:05 |
| genehacker_light | I may go on vacation | 21:05 |
| genehacker_light | to a place with not that good internet access | 21:06 |
| ybit | and i'm off to bed, will wake up early to get working on what i could have worked on today | 21:06 |
| ybit | eek | 21:06 |
| ybit | as long as you have a mobile computer though, no biggie | 21:06 |
| genehacker_light | which may result in me not being able to advance humanity | 21:06 |
| genehacker_light | err... about that | 21:06 |
| ybit | programming? | 21:06 |
| genehacker_light | no just the place I'm going | 21:06 |
| ybit | advancing your knowledge to advance others is how i look at spending my time online | 21:07 |
| ybit | online/on the computer | 21:07 |
| ybit | now i'm off. gn | 21:07 |
| genehacker_light | ah well I'll just take a local copy of the internet on my computer | 21:07 |
| genehacker_light | I might spend a day scanning books in the library... | 21:08 |
| genehacker_light | why can't all books be online? | 21:10 |
| genehacker_light | when's google going to do that scan a whole library thing? | 21:10 |
| genehacker_light | kanzure how do I open up .tar.bz2? | 21:13 |
| genehacker_light | nvm | 21:15 |
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| kanzure | need to figure out how to make pyscholar work | 21:20 |
| kanzure | some shell utilities? maybe it should be used in an interpreter session? | 21:20 |
| drazak | how does pyscholar work? | 21:56 |
| drazak | what does it do,anyway? | 21:57 |
| drazak | kanzure: I misspoke, draper makes those otherdevices | 22:00 |
| drazak | kanzure: also it should be console based, you can put in a search string, get results, and if you hit enter on a result it will display the abstract in another vertical or horizontal pane | 22:06 |
| genehacker_light | how does one find a paper that isn't on the internet? | 22:40 |
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| kanzure | http://www.opencog.org/wiki/OpenCogBuntu | 22:50 |
| kanzure | drazak: what pane? | 22:56 |
| drazak | kanzure: you could make the pyscholar interface two paned | 22:56 |
| kanzure | ncurses? | 22:56 |
| drazak | kanzure: one for the search/search results and one for the abstract | 22:56 |
| drazak | yes | 22:56 |
| kanzure | maybe. but what about the plain shell utilities? | 23:02 |
| drazak | well you could have a search command and a get command | 23:04 |
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| genehacker_light | firefox can crash in linux? | 23:04 |
| genehacker_light | IMPOSSIBLE! | 23:04 |
| drazak | not impossible | 23:04 |
| genehacker_light | I know | 23:12 |
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