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| ybit | are you suggesting though that they do use nanorex? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| * ybit is familiar with the site | 00:00 | |
| fenn | does tu-muenchen use nanorex? probably not | 00:00 |
| ybit | http://cadnano.org/ | 00:01 |
| ybit | found it | 00:01 |
| fenn | http://cadnano.org/ is on their links page | 00:01 |
| ybit | linked to from http://bionano.physik.tu-muenchen.de/research_resources.html | 00:01 |
| fenn | hmm. "look at us we're open source! you must install adobe AIR to use this" | 00:03 |
| ybit | "Adobe AIR could not be installed because this is not a supported Linux distribution. Only RPM- and Debian-based Linux distributions are supported." | 00:04 |
| ybit | wtf | 00:04 |
| fenn | booo hiss | 00:05 |
| ybit | git clone git://github.com/sdouglas/cadnano | 00:05 |
| ybit | but ya still need air to compile it -_- | 00:06 |
| * ybit considers deleting the papers from /unsorted | 00:07 | |
| ybit | i'll give it a day | 00:08 |
| fenn | is "unsorted" particularly bad or something? | 00:09 |
| fenn | i mean the whole damn server is "unsorted" | 00:09 |
| fenn | the power of vegetables: http://englishrussia.com/?p=4802#more-4802 | 00:12 |
| ybit | "Djurfeldt M. The connection-set algebra?a novel formalism for the representation of connectivity structure in neuronal network models. 2009." | 00:14 |
| ybit | i dunno, i put everything i grab in there | 00:15 |
| fenn | connection-set algebgra == hypergraph right? | 00:16 |
| fenn | nothing a regular graph can't do, but i admit it's simpler for some things | 00:17 |
| fenn | haha helicopter polo http://englishrussia.com/images/helicopter_race/30.jpg | 00:19 |
| ybit | http://www.advogato.org/article/1015.html :: A smarter CLI - Innovation by Simplicity | 00:34 |
| fenn | that article is terribly written | 00:40 |
| fenn | "here is 50 different ways to do the same thing. have fun!" | 00:42 |
| kanzure | advogato.org is weird in general | 01:17 |
| fenn | mad scientist circa 1980 http://englishrussia.com/images/soviet_b&w/124.jpg | 01:31 |
| fenn | cyclotron i think | 01:32 |
| ybit | 00:02 * ybit considers deleting the papers from /unsorted | 02:03 |
| ybit | s/papers/paper | 02:03 |
| kanzure | why would you delete them | 02:07 |
| kanzure | oh | 02:07 |
| kanzure | wtf? http://heybryan.org/books/Manufacturing/mik-notes.txt | 02:09 |
| kanzure | "machine invention kit" | 02:09 |
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| kanzure | some old content: | 02:11 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/books/Manufacturing/books/ | 02:11 |
| fenn | haha first time i've been accused of being a scientist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientism | 02:19 |
| kanzure | oh looks like I saved the robot9000 thread that led that fellow over to om: | 02:22 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/books/Manufacturing/_r9k_%20-%20ROBOT9000.html | 02:22 |
| fenn | bleh.. i dont know how people can stand 4chan | 02:23 |
| kanzure | was cleaning up my ~/ on leibniz | 02:31 |
| kanzure | was doing a good job too | 02:31 |
| kanzure | until I hit ~/cache/ | 02:31 |
| fenn | thar be dragons | 02:33 |
| kanzure | aha | 02:34 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/chats/%23sl4.01.log | 02:34 |
| kanzure | logs from #sl4 back when eli did the irc thing | 02:34 |
| kanzure | huh emil's in there | 02:36 |
| kanzure | Oct 11 00:41<Eliezer> my power comes from within; I need no '@' sign | 02:37 |
| kanzure | Oct 12 17:45<Eliezer> #sl4 is not logged | 02:40 |
| fenn | if it's on the internet, you better believe it's gonna get stirred around sooner or later | 02:41 |
| fenn | http://englishrussia.com/?p=1584 They were probably using the brains to feed the zombies they were training to invade the US and turn it into a glorious worker’s paradise. But the zombies got agitated and attacked the scientists, killing them and eating their flesh. The infantry units deployed at the base were also eaten when their bullets proved to have no effect on the living dead. | 03:28 |
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| kanzure | fyi, http://heybryan.org/books/Biology/cline/ some stuff I had forgotten that I got from jonathan | 09:40 |
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| kanzure | this looks interesting: Sensory Organ Replacement and Repair Gerald E Miller.pdf | 09:43 |
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| kanzure | Engineering and Manufacturing for Biotechnology Marcel Hofman Philippe Thonart.pdf | 09:45 |
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| kanzure | Biotechnology/Cell and Tissue Culture Laboratory Procedures - Alan Doyle.pdf | 09:51 |
| kanzure | Biotechnology/Fruit and Vegetable Biotechnology - Victoriano Valpuesta.pdf | 09:51 |
| kanzure | Biotechnology/Modern Advances in Chromatography - Springer.pdf | 09:51 |
| kanzure | Botany/Carnivorous plants of the world - James Pietropaolo.pdf | 09:52 |
| kanzure | Cell and Molecular Biology/Embryonic Stem Cells, Methods And Protocols - Kursad Turksen.pdf | 09:52 |
| kanzure | Cell and Molecular Biology/Membrane Protein Protocols - Barry S. Selinsky.pdf | 09:53 |
| kanzure | neat :) | 09:56 |
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| kanzure | also, http://heybryan.org/books/Biology/kegg/ is interesting. for some reason it has a large amount of code that I completely forgot I wrote. | 10:04 |
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| kanzure | also of possible interest: | 11:04 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/books/Biology/neuro/neurocog/oreilly/ | 11:04 |
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| drazak | kanzure: would the speed of my fan increase more if I doubled the freq or the voltage? | 12:19 |
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| kanzure | http://www.biomag.hus.fi/tms/Thesis/dt.html modeling of transcranial magnetic stimulation. | 13:09 |
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| drazak | so, where do you get the certification to work with radioactive materials? | 13:17 |
| kanzure | supposedly I am "certified" to work with p32 at the university | 13:18 |
| kanzure | but I only attended two hours of lecture about nuclear radiation | 13:18 |
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| drazak | huh | 13:20 |
| fenn | i just filled out some forms and took a multiple choice test | 13:34 |
| fenn | from the university radiation safety office | 13:34 |
| kanzure | In [8]: pymates.start(); from copy import deepcopy,copy; lego_pack = pymates.load_package("lego"); lego_pack.load_data(); brick1 = deepcopy(lego_pack.parts[0]); brick2 = deepcopy(lego_pack.parts[0]); brick1.post_init_hook(); brick2.post_init_hook(); brick1.load_CAD(); brick2.load_CAD(); blah = pymates.mate_first(brick1); pymates.OCC.Display.wxSamplesGui.display.DisplayShape(blah); | 13:37 |
| fenn | gah | 13:37 |
| fenn | haven't you ever heard of import? | 13:37 |
| kanzure | huh? | 13:37 |
| fenn | from demo import * | 13:38 |
| kanzure | yeah but that's the smart way to do it | 13:38 |
| fenn | so what happens? | 13:39 |
| fenn | i mean, does the geometry code work yet? | 13:39 |
| kanzure | hold your horses | 13:39 |
| fenn | niiiiih | 13:39 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: kanzure * r b6962cb / (core/part.py demo.py geom/geom.py unittests/test_geom.py): trying to load a part and mate it with an imaginary origin interface | 13:45 |
| kanzure | no it doesn't work at all | 13:45 |
| drazak | fenn: I hope it's like that at our state/university | 13:52 |
| kanzure | fenn: are there any interfaces defined for the first (0th) lego piece that are on the side of it | 13:59 |
| kanzure | side of the model, I mean | 13:59 |
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| * kanzure tries to make sense of http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/SOTWDocs/CR/htm/CR.14.htm | 14:12 | |
| kanzure | hah | 14:14 |
| kanzure | " | 14:14 |
| kanzure | Art. 14.04. WHEN FELONY HAS BEEN COMMITTED. Where it is shown by satisfactory proof to a peace officer, upon the representation of a credible person, that a felony has been committed, and that the offender is about to escape, so that there is no time to procure a warrant, such peace officer may, without warrant, pursue and arrest the accused." | 14:14 |
| kanzure | for some reason this is written like a game | 14:14 |
| kanzure | "the peace officer may, without warrant, pursue" | 14:14 |
| kanzure | "Art. 49.04. DEATHS REQUIRING AN INQUEST. (a) A justice of the peace shall conduct an inquest into the death of a person who dies in the county served by the justice if: (6) the person dies without having been attended by a physician;" | 14:16 |
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| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep_in_the_Big_City "Angry Scientist. He often goes into fits of rage at General Specific when he calls him a 'Mad Scientist', (ANG-GU-REE!!, I am an ANG-GU-REE scientist!!), and on one occasion he is called the 'Angry Chemist', at the end of season 1 he considers calling himself "The Scientist With Some Issues"." | 14:26 |
| drazak | kanzure: have you seen regenesis? | 14:41 |
| kanzure | nope | 14:56 |
| -!- kanzure changed the topic of #hplusroadmap to: ANGRY. I'm an ANGRY scientist. | 14:58 | |
| -!- Irssi: #hplusroadmap: Total of 28 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 28 normal] | 15:05 | |
| bkero | Angry | 15:50 |
| bkero | kanzure: You should. | 15:50 |
| bkero | drazak: Regenesis high five. | 15:50 |
| bkero | kanzure: It's on Hulu :) | 15:50 |
| drazak | it's awesome | 15:50 |
| drazak | if I had a choice of any fake lab on tv or in a movie | 15:50 |
| drazak | I'd pick the regenesis lab | 15:50 |
| bkero | Heh | 15:50 |
| bkero | It has a lot more of a scientific basis than anything else I've seen on television or in a movie. | 15:51 |
| drazak | yeah | 15:51 |
| bkero | Which is terrible because now I have high standards. | 15:51 |
| drazak | when it was live on tv there was a interactive thing on the web | 15:51 |
| drazak | where you had to find the flaws in their science | 15:51 |
| bkero | During the first two seasons. | 15:51 |
| drazak | and it was on forums and crap | 15:51 |
| drazak | (I missed out of all of that) | 15:51 |
| bkero | It won the interactive fiction award for television for the two years they did it. | 15:52 |
| drazak | nice | 15:52 |
| bkero | They had a bigger scientific advisory board than cast. :) | 15:52 |
| bkero | and it was put on by the Ontario Genomics Institute. | 15:53 |
| drazak | I'm rewatching it for the thrid or fourth time | 15:53 |
| drazak | also: they never EVER change the setting on their pippeter | 15:54 |
| drazak | s | 15:54 |
| * bkero gets to start taking a giant regimen of biochem classes in 3 weeks. :/ | 15:54 | |
| drazak | I spend like, 1/4 of the time it takes to do anything changing the setting on my pippeters | 15:54 |
| drazak | bkero: let me know if you need help | 15:54 |
| bkero | Are you some sort of fancy biochemist? | 15:55 |
| drazak | I work in a lab and have read 3 biochem textbooks, but sadly, I'm still in HS | 15:55 |
| bkero | :) | 15:55 |
| kanzure | reading books doesn't get you out of high school | 15:55 |
| kanzure | using your legs and walking out, does | 15:55 |
| drazak | :P | 15:56 |
| bkero | Getting your GED and enrolling in college does. | 15:56 |
| drazak | yeah, but then I get less college money | 15:56 |
| bkero | Do you? | 15:56 |
| drazak | yeah | 15:56 |
| bkero | Or is that the carrot they're using to keep you in high school. | 15:56 |
| bkero | I'd ask FAFSA on that one. | 15:56 |
| drazak | I dunno | 15:56 |
| bkero | Can't hurt to ask. | 15:56 |
| drazak | I only have 1 more year | 15:56 |
| drazak | so I don't really care | 15:56 |
| bkero | But you could be taking college this year instead. ;) | 15:57 |
| * bkero stops being a bad influence. | 15:57 | |
| drazak | college is going to be boring the first 4 years | 15:57 |
| bkero | Depends on what you do with it. | 15:57 |
| bkero | I'm having a great time on my 4th year of undergraduate. | 15:57 |
| bkero | I'm at a great lab though. | 15:57 |
| drazak | are you at osu? | 15:57 |
| drazak | biochem lab, computer lab, etc? | 15:58 |
| bkero | www.osuosl.org | 15:58 |
| drazak | ah, you're in the open source lab | 15:58 |
| bkero | The girl on the front page is my ex girlfriend :P | 15:58 |
| drazak | not as hot as my ex | 16:00 |
| bkero | She's dual majoring in computer science and electrical engineering, and builds electric vehicles. | 16:01 |
| drazak | she's dual majoring bio and chem, and pitches softball | 16:01 |
| bkero | Different tastes. | 16:02 |
| drazak | and she's hotter than your ex | 16:04 |
| * drazak runs | 16:04 | |
| bkero | That's great | 16:05 |
| drazak | I kid | 16:06 |
| drazak | anyway I kinda want all 11 seasons of MASH | 16:06 |
| drazak | but the torrent is slower than me to wake up in this heat | 16:06 |
| fenn | email takes too long. *complain* | 16:59 |
| kanzure | what do you do when /list is too big? | 17:01 |
| fenn | go to www.freenode.net or /list <substring> | 17:01 |
| kanzure | is there a way to pipe it to a file without having to write a program that imports some esilly irc-lib | 17:02 |
| fenn | hm ok nevermind, i thought www.freenode.net had a list of channels | 17:05 |
| fenn | they dont even list registered channels | 17:05 |
| drazak | kanzure: start a log of your status window, do /list, then stop the log | 17:06 |
| kanzure | start a log? | 17:07 |
| kanzure | oh right | 17:07 |
| * kanzure has logging already on | 17:07 | |
| kanzure | but sometimes the /list is too large | 17:07 |
| kanzure | for instance, efnet has 12,000 channels | 17:07 |
| drazak | fleanode has a lot | 17:07 |
| drazak | fleanode has 27000 | 17:08 |
| fenn | how do you know that? | 17:08 |
| drazak | /lusers | 17:08 |
| kanzure | freenode has only a couple thousand | 17:08 |
| fenn | i guess you'd have to count only channels with >2 people | 17:09 |
| kanzure | efnet.org currently says 28,443 channels | 17:10 |
| bkero | freenode has a focus though | 17:10 |
| kanzure | not saying the channel count means anything | 17:11 |
| kanzure | I just want the damn list | 17:11 |
| fenn | look a snowman # | 17:16 |
| fenn | aw | 17:16 |
| bkero | unicodesnowman for you | 17:16 |
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| bkero | Fucking biology textbooks | 17:31 |
| drazak | lol | 17:31 |
| bkero | $604 for one course, $506 for another. | 17:31 |
| drazak | sucks | 17:31 |
| bkero | Fucking TORRENTS | 17:31 |
| drazak | kanzure doesn't have the textbook you want? | 17:32 |
| bkero | Dunno | 17:32 |
| bkero | kanzure: ^ ? | 17:32 |
| drazak | he has hundreds of textbooks | 17:32 |
| drazak | he needs actual names | 17:32 |
| bkero | Biology, author is Campbell, 8th edition | 17:32 |
| bkero | I found 7th ed online | 17:33 |
| bkero | WHAT THE FUCK THE PDF IS 765MB | 17:33 |
| drazak | rofl | 17:33 |
| bkero | Plus. Textbooks are useless without a quick 'find' feature. | 17:38 |
| ybit | bkero: like one of my chemistry books in which every page is a .swf file | 17:40 |
| bkero | ybit: I would fucking KILL EVERYTHING | 17:40 |
| ybit | hehe, yep | 17:42 |
| kanzure | yes I have the 8th | 17:43 |
| kanzure | that's a scanned book, bkero | 17:43 |
| bkero | kanzure: GIMME | 17:43 |
| kanzure | sorry, wait, I have 6th and 7th | 17:43 |
| bkero | I wonder if the prof will care | 17:44 |
| bkero | kanzure: I'm also looking for one called 'Investigating Biology' by Morgan | 17:45 |
| bkero | Hell, let me just make a little list and pastebin it | 17:45 |
| bkero | Biology - 8th Edition, Campbell | 17:46 |
| bkero | Investigating Biology - 6th Edition, Morgan | 17:46 |
| bkero | Chemistry - 11th Edition, Brown | 17:46 |
| bkero | Found chemistry, write edition. So now I just need to find the Morgan book and a more recent edition of the Campbell book. | 17:48 |
| nsh | wtf | 17:48 |
| nsh | a book full of swf... | 17:48 |
| nsh | that's -- fucking criminal | 17:49 |
| bkero | ybit: Did you see if there's some equally-stupid way of extracting text from SWFs? | 17:49 |
| bkero | kanzure: I would appreciate if you had some smaller books for these though. 985MB scanned books are excessive. | 17:49 |
| kanzure | you should start by checking out http://heybryan.org/books/Biology/ | 17:50 |
| bkero | Nice collection | 17:51 |
| flamoot | http://www.spaceelevatorblog.com/?p=1261 | 17:52 |
| fenn | hum. $604 for a single textbook? | 17:53 |
| bkero | Combined textbooks | 17:53 |
| fenn | you could probably just bribe the professor for less | 17:53 |
| bkero | $168, $92, $243, and $101 | 17:53 |
| fenn | i thought you were a CS major | 17:54 |
| bkero | I am | 17:55 |
| fenn | why don't you just study biology if you're interested in it? | 17:55 |
| bkero | There's a great bioinformatics cirriculum here, and lots of internship opportunities :) | 17:55 |
| bkero | and I do anyways :P | 17:55 |
| bkero | also the university requires a minor to receive the CS major. | 17:56 |
| bkero | --or another major | 17:56 |
| fenn | oh | 17:56 |
| fenn | is that because it's a B.A.? | 17:56 |
| bkero | BS | 17:57 |
| fenn | weird | 17:57 |
| bkero | Yea | 17:57 |
| bkero | Biology minor for one year sets me right in line to get a BS in Bioresource bioinformatics/genomics, and hooked up with a nice research job. | 17:58 |
| bkero | and I know some folks down at UCSD who could accept me in their lab if I wanted to transfer down there. | 17:59 |
| flamoot | NICE | 17:59 |
| flamoot | i'll stop you | 17:59 |
| flamoot | these people might not have the courage | 17:59 |
| flamoot | but i do. | 17:59 |
| * flamoot steps in front of bkero | 17:59 | |
| flamoot | now. | 17:59 |
| flamoot | hush | 17:59 |
| bkero | I've been stopped. | 17:59 |
| flamoot | there there | 18:00 |
| * bkero cries over IRC bullies. | 18:00 | |
| flamoot | yes. | 18:00 |
| flamoot | yes | 18:00 |
| bkero | Also why am I being stopped? | 18:00 |
| flamoot | it's just gone on long enough | 18:00 |
| kanzure | bkero: if you're going to UCSD, check out the College of Creative Studies | 18:00 |
| bkero | It's either idle chatter or dead silence in this channel, take your pick. ;) | 18:00 |
| flamoot | ,_, | 18:01 |
| bkero | kanzure: I've never heard of it, what's it about? | 18:01 |
| kanzure | it's where disgruntled angry irc addicts go to let their university leave them alone and let them do their thing | 18:01 |
| fenn | bkero: sorry i blew my wad on some mailing list, now i dont really feel like discussing H+ nar-nar | 18:01 |
| bkero | kanzure: Sounds like paradise. | 18:01 |
| bkero | fenn: hah, no problem | 18:02 |
| fenn | i guess you can read the thread yourself if you want: http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing/browse_thread/thread/283e69c619c5ad7f | 18:04 |
| bkero | First Q is WTF is this on the openmanufacturing list? :P | 18:05 |
| * fenn blames kanzure | 18:06 | |
| kanzure | you're the one who hasn't fixed the code | 18:06 |
| QuantumG | "Calling one of the best innovators and most public dreamers of the age a necromancer is something that calls all your words into question. " | 18:07 |
| QuantumG | You shall not question our prophet! | 18:07 |
| kanzure | gah | 18:08 |
| kanzure | how can anyone like that guy | 18:08 |
| bkero | NERD RAGE | 18:08 |
| QuantumG | he's a smart guy.. and so was Ron L. Hubbard | 18:08 |
| kanzure | what makes him smart | 18:08 |
| fenn | Hubbard L. Ron | 18:08 |
| fenn | a.k.a. "El Ron" | 18:09 |
| fenn | as we say in texas | 18:09 |
| ybit | http://www.iolanguage.com/ | 18:09 |
| kanzure | ybit: see #io | 18:09 |
| ybit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_(programming_language) | 18:09 |
| * kanzure just went through all freenode channels today so has #io fresh in his mind | 18:09 | |
| ybit | and factor | 18:09 |
| QuantumG | ybit: Io would be a good language if Steve would just stop changing it | 18:09 |
| ybit | bkero: no, i didn't have time to mess around with the tools avialable, and eventually had to give into the system and buy a book at the time | 18:14 |
| ybit | i like how everything's a command in tcl | 18:15 |
| bkero | Sad | 18:15 |
| ybit | does the podcast with joseph jackson and paul fernhout have anything interesting? | 18:17 |
| ybit | otherwise it's just noise disturbing me | 18:17 |
| fenn | dunno, havent even looked at it | 18:17 |
| fenn | maybe if i had an ipod or something i'd listen to it on the bus | 18:17 |
| ybit | so far it's everything which has been discussed on the mailing lists | 18:17 |
| kanzure | I listened to it for a few seconds and then decided I didn't care | 18:17 |
| kanzure | got through paul's photocoppier machine story | 18:18 |
| fenn | ooh a story! please share! | 18:18 |
| kanzure | no | 18:19 |
| fenn | fascist | 18:19 |
| kanzure | facist | 18:19 |
| ybit | he thinks the neatest innovation he's seen come about is how printers were large and very few had them back in the day.. now everyone has them.. he sees the 3d printer that will have a similar future | 18:19 |
| fenn | thanks lazyweb | 18:19 |
| QuantumG | 'cep that printers are useful | 18:20 |
| QuantumG | and the average joe knew what they were for. | 18:20 |
| ybit | so for bookmarks... | 18:21 |
| ybit | http://crm114.sourceforge.net/ | 18:21 |
| ybit | http://www.fourmilab.ch/annoyance-filter/ | 18:21 |
| ybit | and maybe.. | 18:22 |
| ybit | http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ | 18:22 |
| ybit | http://bayesclasses.sourceforge.net/Bayes++.html | 18:22 |
| ybit | and since i don't use apache... | 18:22 |
| ybit | http://code.google.com/p/ncache/ | 18:22 |
| ybit | and thanks for mentioning http://wn-similarity.sourceforge.net/ kanzure | 18:22 |
| ybit | that is the wordnet which you were thinking of right? | 18:23 |
| QuantumG | kitchen bread makers remain $99+ items, and I can't remember the last time I saw one. | 18:23 |
| kanzure | ybit: there's a mroe general one out there | 18:23 |
| fenn | bread maker doesn't even measure out the ingredients, and the bread sucks | 18:24 |
| QuantumG | ya. It was an interesting fad. | 18:24 |
| QuantumG | dunno why anyone is still making them. | 18:24 |
| QuantumG | still tooled up for it I guess | 18:24 |
| fenn | because now there is a "market" | 18:24 |
| fenn | someone needs to take it to the next level | 18:24 |
| fenn | open source auto-cook | 18:25 |
| fenn | i'm quite serious | 18:25 |
| QuantumG | the "I have all the appliances I need, I know, I'll buy a bread maker" market? | 18:25 |
| QuantumG | cooks use too many ingredients. | 18:26 |
| QuantumG | 90% of cooking is sourcing ingredients | 18:26 |
| ybit | ugh.. something about a moon and paul graham... open source.. we discussed it last week, the group is related to luf iirc.. | 18:27 |
| ybit | http://pexpect.sourceforge.net/pexpect.html | 18:36 |
| ybit | Pexpect is a Python module for spawning child applications and controlling | 18:37 |
| ybit | them automatically. Pexpect can be used for automating interactive applications | 18:37 |
| ybit | such as ssh, ftp, passwd, telnet, etc. It can be used to a automate setup | 18:37 |
| ybit | Libes' Expect, but Pexpect is pure Python. | 18:37 |
| ybit | scripts for duplicating software package installations on different servers. It | 18:37 |
| ybit | can be used for automated software testing. Pexpect is in the spirit of Don | 18:37 |
| fenn | QuantumG: well perhaps we just need a robotic grocery store that delivers | 18:40 |
| fenn | what i meant by "market" was "well we know people have bought breadmakers in the past, so here's some money for setting up a bread maker factory" | 18:42 |
| kanzure | http://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=13340&org=CMMI | 18:42 |
| kanzure | huh http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/policydocs/pappguide/nsf09_29/gpg_1.jsp#ID2 | 18:49 |
| kanzure | so "unaffiliated individuals" are, in fact, allowed to submit grant proposals | 18:49 |
| fenn | yep | 18:49 |
| kanzure | "Unaffiliated individuals should contact the appropriate program before preparing a proposal for submission. " | 18:49 |
| fenn | "It should present the merits of the proposed project clearly and should be prepared with the care and thoroughness of a paper submitted for publication." | 18:51 |
| kanzure | the contact before preparing a proposal? | 18:51 |
| fenn | no, that was talking about the full proposal | 18:51 |
| kanzure | there's a pre-proposal too that matters kinda more | 18:51 |
| kanzure | once you get the go-ahead you might as well write the proposal | 18:51 |
| fenn | i think that's mostly so they can get a sense of how many people are going to apply | 18:52 |
| fenn | fwiw it might be advantageous to be affiliated with some non-profit smokescreen | 18:55 |
| kanzure | like hplus? | 18:56 |
| fenn | right | 18:56 |
| bkero | It's not hard to establish a nonprofit | 18:56 |
| fenn | it's not hard to apply for a grant either :\ | 18:57 |
| kanzure | none of these grants look like the right thing | 18:57 |
| fenn | EDI looks like the right thing | 18:57 |
| kanzure | and none of these subdivisions of NSF look interested in skdb | 18:57 |
| kanzure | EDI? | 18:57 |
| fenn | http://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=13340&org=CMMI | 18:57 |
| kanzure | CMMI? | 18:58 |
| kanzure | ah | 18:58 |
| kanzure | "design theory" | 18:58 |
| fenn | CMMI is a division, EDI is a program | 18:58 |
| kanzure | recent awards through that program: http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/progSearch.do?SearchType=progSearch&page=2&QueryText=&ProgOrganization=&WT.si_n=ClickedAbstractsRecentAwards&WT.si_x=1&WT.si_cs=1&WT.z_pims_id=13340CMMI&ProgOfficer=&ProgEleCode=1464&BooleanElement=true&ProgRefCode=&BooleanRef=true&ProgProgram=&ProgFoaCode=&RestrictActive=on&Search=Search#results | 18:58 |
| fenn | nice url | 18:59 |
| kanzure | "Collaborative Research: Quantifying Creativity in Automated Design through a Multiagent Coordination Framework" | 19:00 |
| fenn | quantifying? | 19:06 |
| fenn | is that the k-means thingy? | 19:06 |
| kanzure | so, somehow these categories apply: CMMI, EDI, "cyberinfrastructure", manufacturing, manufacturing base research, cyberinfrastructure/science, cyber engineering systems, mechanical sciences & eng-res., mechanical systems, | 19:07 |
| kanzure | /var/www/papers/outgoing/VisualizeIT-2009-JCISE.docx | 19:09 |
| kanzure | er, that's the paper that we wrote I guess | 19:09 |
| kanzure | Proposal Number: CBET-0742677; CBET-0742693; CBET-0742698; CBET-0742791 | 19:16 |
| fenn | kanzure: on leibniz could you copy /home/bryan/manufacturing/pythonocc/pythonOCC/build/lib.linux-i686-2.5/OCC/ to /usr/share/pyshared/OCC/ | 19:36 |
| fenn | and maybe also /home/bryan/manufacturing/pythonocc/pythonOCC/build/OCC/ | 19:37 |
| fenn | and link pyshraed/OCC to /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ | 19:37 |
| bkero | kanzure: Did you ever OCR textbooks? | 19:43 |
| fenn | oh. i thought OCC was not installed because i get this when running paths.py: ImportError: No module named DataExchange.STEP | 19:43 |
| bkero | !game | 19:44 |
| fenn | bkero: you have a dog, a bunny, a baby and a jar of poison candy. how do you get them all across the river if you can only take one at a time? | 19:46 |
| drazak | well the bunny will eat the dog, and the baby will eat the poison candy, unless the baby is in the presence of the bunny | 19:46 |
| bkero | dog, baby, bunny, poison candy? | 19:48 |
| drazak | dog eats the bunny | 19:48 |
| bkero | You said it backwards | 19:49 |
| drazak | well, you know what I meant | 19:49 |
| drazak | no, baby, bunny poison candy, dog | 19:49 |
| bkero | Nice excuse :P | 19:49 |
| fenn | bah it seems they broke pythonOCC again | 20:09 |
| * fenn downgrades | 20:10 | |
| kanzure | hey uh, why don't I have "tree" installed? | 20:15 |
| fenn | uh /me generates an excuse | 20:27 |
| fenn | "Sysadmins unavailable because they are in a meeting talking about why they are unavailable so much." | 20:27 |
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| fenn | i wasn't serious when i said "maybe by tomorrow i'll have pythonOCC installed" but it's starting to look that way | 21:04 |
| kanzure | heh found "spanish.cpp" on the hdd somewhere | 21:05 |
| kanzure | apparently I wrote a crossword puzzle solver for spanish crosswords .. while I was in class and before the crossword puzzle solution was due that day. | 21:05 |
| fenn | bitchin | 21:05 |
| fenn | i'm pretty sure we weren't allowed to use laptops in school | 21:07 |
| kanzure | we were, we just weren't allowed to access the wireless network | 21:07 |
| kanzure | by "we" I guess I mean me, and the one or two times someone else brought a laptop in the entire four years | 21:07 |
| fenn | all right why does heekscad segfault immediately | 21:08 |
| kanzure | are you in /home/bryan/manufacturing/heekscad/HeeksCAD/heekscad-read-only/ ? | 21:09 |
| fenn | no this is on tub | 21:09 |
| kanzure | Horribly simple polyphasic sleeping pattern data collector | 22:16 |
| kanzure | Author: Bryan Bishop | 22:16 |
| kanzure | Date: March 11th, 02006 @ 12:58 AM | 22:16 |
| kanzure | huh | 22:16 |
| kanzure | in log.php found in a backup of ~/home/bbishop/ on leibniz | 22:16 |
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| kanzure | so after cleaning up a good portion of my backups, randomly forgotten directories and other server miscellanea, wc -w *.txt in my docs folder (of things I've written) spits out 65,294 .. but this isn't including all of the stupid crap in the dot doc files. | 22:49 |
| fenn | you might as well convert doc while you're at it, if it matters to you | 22:50 |
| kanzure | wvHtml goes from doc to html, any better ideas? | 22:51 |
| kanzure | it's just kind of annoying to only be able to get html out of it. :( | 22:51 |
| * ybit is uploading mprg to adl | 22:53 | |
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| ybit | mason-l: did you take a look at the post from kanzure on uzbl xpath and scraping? | 23:00 |
| * ybit sent you the link | 23:00 | |
| ybit | http://groups.google.com/group/diytranshumanist/browse_thread/thread/cd11a83bcd3532b6/1e908ea08ba2d9f2?lnk=gst&q=uzbl#1e908ea08ba2d9f2 | 23:01 |
| mason-l | pyscholar? | 23:01 |
| ybit | what exactly are you proposing, kanzure. why not just have some type of extension where you type a key such as "A" for archive and uzbl downloads the page to you ~/archives/sites | 23:04 |
| ybit | s/you/your | 23:04 |
| QuantumG | I was looking for a BSD licensed html renderer the other week.. didn't find one | 23:04 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 4149e80 /packages/lego/ (brick_thick.stp data.yaml): add 2x4 brick, remove old 2x2 brick data | 23:06 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r 81a8a40 /packages/lego/ (brick_thick_single_hole.stp data.yaml gear_pin1.stp): added technic pin and technic beam | 23:06 |
| CIA-38 | skdb: fenn * r fc1e07a / (10 files in 7 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of adl.serveftp.org:/var/www/skdb | 23:06 |
| kanzure | ybit: beause saving the page sucks | 23:11 |
| kanzure | HTML is bloat | 23:11 |
| kanzure | just get the data that you need and put it in a format that you already use | 23:11 |
| QuantumG | ya | 23:11 |
| ybit | but how to know what data you need automatically | 23:12 |
| kanzure | you don't | 23:12 |
| QuantumG | http://www.radiotelemetry.co.uk/pdf%20files/DS152%20TX7433%20Miniature%20Transmitter%20Radio%20Module%20Data%20Sheet.pdf | 23:12 |
| kanzure | you look at the page once | 23:12 |
| QuantumG | that's pretty sweet | 23:12 |
| kanzure | and the idea is to select the elements on the page to extract the xpaths | 23:12 |
| kanzure | then test it real quick to make sure it grabs the right data | 23:13 |
| ybit | ah | 23:13 |
| kanzure | then you're done | 23:13 |
| kanzure | the advantage is that when the page changes its formatting, as it inevitably will, | 23:14 |
| kanzure | you ask the user if he wants to deal with the issue at the moment, if yes pop up uzbl unobtrusively | 23:14 |
| kanzure | presently it takes me way too long to write proper scraping utilities | 23:14 |
| kanzure | as a result I'm more tempted to just go manually look over the webs | 23:15 |
| ybit | have you tried using twill? ya should | 23:18 |
| ybit | http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/unsorted/Manufacturing_Processes_Reference_Guide.tar.bz2 | 23:19 |
| ybit | ~340mb | 23:20 |
| ybit | will need to crop, align, and reduce the size of the images | 23:21 |
| ybit | a few other image adjustments and concat. into a pdf file | 23:22 |
| ybit | one more book to go | 23:23 |
| fenn | cool, thanks | 23:44 |
| ybit | http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/xmonad-contrib-bluetilebranch/0.8.1/doc/html/XMonad-Actions-TopicSpace.html | 23:57 |
| ybit | """Turns your workspaces into a more topic oriented system. | 23:57 |
| ybit | This module allows to organize your workspaces on a precise topic basis. So instead of having a workspace called work you can setup one workspace per task. Here we call these workspaces, topics. The great thing with topics is that one can attach a directory that makes sense to each particular topic. One can also attach an action which will be triggered when switching to a topic that does not have any windows in it. So you can attach your mail client to | 23:57 |
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