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| kanzure | well that was a waste of time | 00:03 |
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| fenn | ybit2: http://www.stemmewest.com/pages/s10vt.htm | 01:10 |
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| kanzure | wow | 06:59 |
| kanzure | http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Lady-Ts-Magick-Shop__W0QQ_armrsZ1 | 06:59 |
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| kanzure | hah. "Legal disclaimer: The law requires that all paranormal items such as spells or psychic readings be sold for entertainment purposes only." | 07:12 |
| katsmeow-afk | didja ever notice that "land mass" in defining islands, is not quantified for purposes of the definition? | 07:14 |
| CIA-32 | skdb: kanzure * r 0ec5d4a /geom/geom.py: assembly_volume_actual works now, but it takes 40 to 60 seconds | 07:15 |
| fenn | wouldn't want to let people practice magick without a license | 07:33 |
| fenn | katsmeow-afk: how long is the coast of britain? | 07:33 |
| Utopiah | infinite | 07:34 |
| Utopiah | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Long_Is_the_Coast_of_Britain%3F_Statistical_Self-Similarity_and_Fractional_Dimension | 07:36 |
| fenn | " 5X Power Sex Change Transgendered SPELL, SUPER POWERFUL" gee I wonder if you can have them cast it on other people | 07:37 |
| katsmeow-afk | it's an island, no? : http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1702/mf_seasteading_f.jpg | 07:41 |
| fenn | looks like a guy in a trench coat | 07:42 |
| fenn | i kid. don't they specify the dimensions and number of floors of the hotel thingy? | 07:43 |
| katsmeow-afk | what hotel ? | 07:43 |
| fenn | the one they are trying to build | 07:43 |
| katsmeow-afk | what are you talking about? | 07:44 |
| katsmeow-afk | oh,, the Seasteading Institute? | 07:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | i dunno, i wasn't paying them any attention | 07:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | that's not an island, and i was on the topic of islands | 07:45 |
| fenn | the picture is of patri friedman | 07:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | correct | 07:46 |
| katsmeow-afk | http://www.wired.com/techbiz/startups/magazine/17-02/mf_seasteading?currentPage=all | 07:46 |
| katsmeow-afk | my research into ships tells me it's unlikely a mile sized floating platform can be built which will last 10 years | 07:47 |
| katsmeow-afk | in fact, building past 1000ft in any direction makes it quite fragile in the open ocean | 07:48 |
| fenn | i can't seem to find a decent image of the hotel concept.. they had one that was professionally CAD'ed up | 07:48 |
| fenn | anyway, what's this about islands? | 07:49 |
| katsmeow-afk | and, solidly tying a deck to the top of more than one spar, without a huge system of connections below the water, seems to be suicide | 07:49 |
| fenn | have you looked into the pneumatically stabilized platform concept? | 07:49 |
| katsmeow-afk | "island" is not well defined, there's loopholes | 07:50 |
| katsmeow-afk | yeas, i have | 07:50 |
| fenn | i don't care about definitions so long as it works | 07:50 |
| fenn | so why the 1000 ft limit? | 07:50 |
| katsmeow-afk | unless it's unreasonably flexable, it will break | 07:50 |
| fenn | first of all, things become unreasonably flexible on 1000 ft length scales | 07:51 |
| fenn | second, are there even waves of that wavelength? | 07:51 |
| katsmeow-afk | modern ocean going cargo ships are so tightly designed, moving a bulkhead 2 inches in any direction is pretty much guaranteed to sink the ship | 07:51 |
| fenn | that's just stupidity | 07:52 |
| katsmeow-afk | sometimes, it's not a single wave that causes the breakup, but fatigue | 07:52 |
| fenn | i don't pretend to know the fatigue limit of reinforced concrete but i know it's greater than zero | 07:53 |
| kanzure | can you get a ref on that 2 inch thing? | 07:54 |
| kanzure | 2 inch tolerance I mean | 07:54 |
| katsmeow-afk | sometimes stupidity,, a ship sank a few yrs ago, it had recently been lengthened 15 meters, but when reassembled, all the welds were in one line around the boat, and that's where it broke in two | 07:54 |
| katsmeow-afk | kanzure, yeas | 07:54 |
| kanzure | thanks :) | 07:54 |
| katsmeow-afk | might take 10 minutes........... | 07:55 |
| * kanzure doesn't think boats are designed to be lengthened | 07:55 | |
| kanzure | in general. | 07:55 |
| katsmeow-afk | http://www.shipstructure.org/derby.shtml | 07:57 |
| katsmeow-afk | http://www.shipstructure.org/case_studies/carla/ | 07:58 |
| fenn | why would you design a boat to sink even if it did break in half? | 07:58 |
| fenn | i mean seriously, how hard is it to keep storage cells from flooding | 07:58 |
| katsmeow-afk | they didn't put me in charge, i dunno | 07:58 |
| kanzure | aren't ship designers usually "architectural engineers" ? | 07:59 |
| katsmeow-afk | i hope not,, but that wold explain why so many ships break upand sink | 08:00 |
| fenn | huh i guess it stayed afloat for five days | 08:00 |
| katsmeow-afk | the Prestige oil tanker also stayed afloat days, but sank lower and lower, and hogging effects eventually broke it up and sank it | 08:01 |
| kanzure | fenn: minsky says it wants a system restart | 08:01 |
| fenn | becuase i installed a new kernel | 08:01 |
| kanzure | hm why didn't you install OCC.GEOMImpl ? | 08:01 |
| fenn | eh? | 08:02 |
| katsmeow-afk | that was in 2002 | 08:02 |
| fenn | is that salome? | 08:02 |
| kanzure | trying to run /home/fenn/local/pythonOCC/samples/Level2/PAF/test_gears_sympy.py | 08:02 |
| fenn | because i was trying to make the simplest possible install script before mucking it up | 08:02 |
| kanzure | you have a new install script? | 08:02 |
| fenn | isn't it SGEOM anyway? | 08:02 |
| kanzure | no, OCC.GEOMImpl means it is in the OCC module | 08:02 |
| kanzure | kanzure@pikachu:~/local/sgeom/src/GEOMImpl | 08:03 |
| fenn | this multiple places to store 'how to compile stuff' really chaps my ass | 08:03 |
| kanzure | well fuck that theory I guess | 08:03 |
| fenn | why can't the devs just make it work properly out of the box? is really nobody else using debian? | 08:04 |
| kanzure | the devs are jerks | 08:04 |
| kanzure | and french | 08:04 |
| fenn | anyway where should i put my half-tested compile script? | 08:04 |
| kanzure | adl:~/remember/pythonOCC | 08:05 |
| kanzure | so that the wiki is updated | 08:05 |
| fenn | whose ~ ? | 08:05 |
| kanzure | you | 08:05 |
| fenn | it's already there as /home/fenn/remember/compile_pythonocc | 08:05 |
| fenn | right, keep up the good work :P | 08:06 |
| kanzure | you know it would probably be more profitable to do "pink army" for fat people | 08:10 |
| kanzure | are swapfiles merged back into RAM as soon as RAM is available? | 08:46 |
| fenn | dirty_centisecs .. it's so dirty, baby | 08:48 |
| kanzure | er, I mean, are pagefiles put back in to RAM ever? | 08:48 |
| kanzure | http://zen-sources.org/ "kernels done right" eh? | 08:49 |
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| kanzure | fenn: how many months of rent can you do at the new apartment? just wondering | 08:58 |
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| katsmeow-afk | fenn recently relocated? | 09:02 |
| kanzure | fenn's been living with me for a while now | 09:02 |
| katsmeow-afk | o | 09:06 |
| katsmeow-afk | then the "new apartment" ? | 09:06 |
| kanzure | moving a block down the street | 09:07 |
| fenn | i've been in austin since february | 09:11 |
| fenn | kind of depressing to think about | 09:11 |
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| fenn | kanzure could refine question please? | 09:12 |
| kanzure | no, I don't know what I'm asking | 09:14 |
| kanzure | just asking so that I can know when I'll have to put up with my mom yelling at me | 09:14 |
| fenn | holy crap | 09:15 |
| fenn | Georges Buffon found that if you drew a grid of parallel lines, each 1 unit apart, and dropped a pin on it that was also 1 unit in length, then the probability that the pin would fall across a line was 2/π. In 1901, someone dropped a pin 34080 times and got an average of 3.1415929. | 09:15 |
| kanzure | george didn't drop the pin? | 09:16 |
| * fenn tries to think of the sort of snide retort a theor would make | 09:16 | |
| kanzure | "drawing is for the servants" ? | 09:17 |
| fenn | "oh, that's just the implementation. not important" | 09:17 |
| kanzure | how did he come up with that, then? | 09:17 |
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| fenn | simple math based on the randomness of the pin's angle | 09:18 |
| fenn | the pin sweeps an angle of 2pi | 09:19 |
| fenn | something like that | 09:19 |
| fenn | if you care http://www.mste.uiuc.edu/reese/buffon/buffon.html | 09:20 |
| kanzure | geometry_demos.py has "points_from_intersection" but it seems to only work on objects like gp_Pln, gp_Cylinder, gp_Sphere, etc. | 09:32 |
| katsmeow-afk | [off topic] how important is it to be able to stand up in a boat cabin that's only 8ft wide, if going above 5.5ft inside height begins making relocating the boat on land extraordinarily difficult? really, it's not like i'll be running laps inside | 09:34 |
| katsmeow-afk | it's the inside-the-hull , "below decks", sleeping, weathertight, desk-workshop cabin i speak of | 09:39 |
| fenn | not being able to stand in a workshop would suck, but i guess you're used to it | 09:39 |
| katsmeow-afk | true, but standing at a spining lathe on a boat would seem to have a huge disadvantage: the boat roll tossing a standing person into the work | 09:41 |
| fenn | i was more thinking about wrestling with something in a vise, (wrench, hammer, hacksaw, etc) | 09:41 |
| katsmeow-afk | oh, well, dirty poundy work is prolly best done upstairs | 09:42 |
| fenn | you can do a lot in an office chair if the space is set up for it | 09:43 |
| katsmeow-afk | the main hull will require land transport, there's the heigth restriction,, but the above-hull cabin is built onthe boat after launching and has no such restriction | 09:43 |
| fenn | i see. you could also just make it removable | 09:43 |
| katsmeow-afk | the lower cabin will have environment controls to keep humidity and salt to a minimum, the top cabin may have open windows | 09:44 |
| katsmeow-afk | even if removeable, i cannot build it here without a very tall barn to build it in | 09:44 |
| katsmeow-afk | and a crane to move it about | 09:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | building it here is contraindicated | 09:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | i'd rather build a kit of a top cabin here, if needed, and stillassemble it onthe hull after launching | 09:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | anyhow, given the presence of the top cabin, the sit-down lower internal cabin is less of a problem? | 09:46 |
| fenn | yah | 09:47 |
| * katsmeow-afk thanks fenn for his input | 09:48 | |
| kanzure | hm for some reason gp_Mat.Column returns a gp_XYZ | 10:02 |
| kanzure | gp_Mat is a matrix | 10:02 |
| fenn | a liquid feast http://kaedrin.com/images/eggnogs.jpg | 10:21 |
| katsmeow-afk | eggnog is my favorite reason to goto grocery stores during xmas season | 10:23 |
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| kanzure | fenn: how much trouble would it be to turn occ_class into a list in the OCC_triple classes in geom/geom.py? | 10:33 |
| kanzure | i added Point.from_vertex because I don't want to get into that at the moment | 10:34 |
| kanzure | but basically there's a way to turn a TopoDS_Vertex into a gp_Pnt (and thus a Point) | 10:34 |
| kanzure | but it requires that Point() be able to take a TopoDS_Vertex as the parameter, and OCC_triple currently doesn't allow for anything but whatever the occ_class says | 10:34 |
| kanzure | also, BRep_Tool is hidden in OCC.BRep, not in OCC.BRepTools | 10:35 |
| fenn | OCC_Triple can do gp_*, list, tuple, or subclass of OCC_Triple.. what's so hard about adding another case to the __init__? | 10:37 |
| kanzure | huh? should TopoDS_Vertex work for anything that inherits from OCC_Triple? | 10:38 |
| fenn | wrapped_classes = gp_Pnt, gp_Vec, gp_Dir, gp_XYZ | 10:38 |
| kanzure | I guess so | 10:39 |
| kanzure | but it becomes kinda meaningless to go from gp_Vec to TopoDS_Vertex | 10:39 |
| fenn | meh | 10:39 |
| fenn | "dont do that" | 10:40 |
| fenn | anyway TopoDS doesn't have all the same methods as the wrapped_classes do, so you'd have to write a method to cast it to OCC_tripe anyway | 10:42 |
| kanzure | "A box approximation of an object used for collision detection. An axis-aligned bounding box (AABB) is defined by the minimum and maximum 'x', 'y', and 'z' values. An oriented bounding box (OBB), however, generally gives a closer fit, because it is always aligned with the object." | 11:08 |
| flamoot | http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/09/07/1526234/Placebos-Are-Getting-More-Effective | 11:14 |
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| genehacker | huh | 11:38 |
| genehacker | my fluids lab professor does anti-cancer work? | 11:38 |
| genehacker | http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/21053/ | 11:39 |
| kanzure | no he does pro-cancer work | 11:43 |
| genehacker | she | 11:56 |
| genehacker | with a femtosecond laser | 11:56 |
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| CIA-32 | skdb: kanzure * r 5844e80 / (geom/geom.py tests/test_geom.py): unit tests for bounding boxes collision detection pass | 12:35 |
| kanzure | do this: python tests/test_geom.py TestGeom.test_boundingbox_collision | 12:35 |
| dira | I've never seen people talk about H+ here | 12:43 |
| dira | although we talk about collision which is good thing in one point of view | 12:44 |
| kanzure | "gnu network object model object environment" == gnome? really? | 12:45 |
| kanzure | dira: it's because we're all working on projects for h+ stuff | 12:45 |
| kanzure | so instead of talking about philosophy, we just go do it | 12:45 |
| kanzure | or act like we're doing it | 12:45 |
| kanzure | not sure which is which yet | 12:45 |
| dira | and I'm interested to know of such projects , at list topics? | 12:46 |
| kanzure | "The Free Software Foundation and Net Community started a fund drive to raise $14,175 to fund the completion of Display Ghostscript--that is, extending Ghostscript to support the Display Postscript features. We have succeeded in raising the full amount, and the work is being done." | 12:48 |
| kanzure | dira: http://adl.serveftp.org/dokuwiki/skdb | 12:48 |
| dira | and you cannot cut the philosophy outa things , if you do it , that contradicts with your own philosophy , evolution and improvements need interaction, iteration and reviewing what you've achieved so far although with less concentration | 12:48 |
| kanzure | sure | 12:48 |
| kanzure | but that only happens when a new guy shows up | 12:48 |
| kanzure | unless we're all acting drunk (although I don't think any of us do get drunk, except maybe ybit2) | 12:49 |
| dira | knock knock , I'm there | 12:49 |
| kanzure | projects in the pipeline for transhuman technology: | 12:49 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/doc/proposals/trans-tech.yaml | 12:50 |
| kanzure | there was this opportunity a few months ago that presented itself where we might have got a large warehouse to go work in and make stuff | 12:50 |
| kanzure | it hasn't exactly come through yet, but that's a file that describes some of the projects we were thinking of implementing | 12:50 |
| kanzure | it's listed in a way that describes what we need in order to do what we want to do.. | 12:50 |
| kanzure | so for instance, to do muscle enhancement you would need myostatin inhibitors (if you want that option), which would require maybe a bioreactor (for the method I've been thinking of) | 12:51 |
| kanzure | and to do microelectrode arrays you need to be able to do electrode etching | 12:51 |
| dira | although I'm on your camp, but I'm eager to know why http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Fukuyama calls H+ as one of the world's most dangerous ideas ? | 12:52 |
| kanzure | dunno, he seems like he just likes to write and talk a lot | 12:52 |
| kanzure | I'd ignore him. nothing useful has ever come from him as far as I can tell. | 12:52 |
| dira | then if you are familiar with him , open it up a little for me | 12:52 |
| kanzure | open what up | 12:53 |
| dira | the discussion | 12:53 |
| kanzure | what discussion | 12:53 |
| kanzure | sorry, what are you talking about? | 12:53 |
| dira | that he thinks of H+ as the world's most dangerous ideas? | 12:53 |
| kanzure | is that somehow important? | 12:54 |
| dira | since that is the only critic around , it is to me ... | 12:54 |
| kanzure | dira: in the popular media there is a different idea of transhumanism than what we're talking about in here | 12:55 |
| dira | and that's big acquisition | 12:55 |
| kanzure | in here, we mean transhuman in the sense of transexualism-but-more | 12:55 |
| kanzure | francis likes to talk about the idea of 'democratic transhumanism' which has been the basis of WTA for a while, the concept of "improving humanity for them" or something | 12:56 |
| kanzure | this is what you'll find transhumanism defined as if you go read the wikipedia article, for instance | 12:56 |
| dira | shall we talk about H+ that you believe in here ? brief description ? link ? | 13:00 |
| kanzure | personal augmentation and administration | 13:00 |
| kanzure | it's not a belief .. it's just what we're on about. | 13:00 |
| dira | I see | 13:02 |
| genehacker | blah blah H+ is dangerous | 13:08 |
| genehacker | don't care | 13:08 |
| kanzure | "everything is dangerous" | 13:10 |
| * dira thinks of eating baked beans as brick fast as one of the most dangerous habits | 13:21 | |
| * katsmeow-afk ponders if "brick fast" is like "brek fist" ? | 13:26 | |
| kanzure | "Damien Francis Broderick (born 22 April 1944) is an Australian science fiction and popular science writer. His science fiction novel The Judas Mandala is sometimes credited with the first appearance of the term "virtual reality"." | 13:35 |
| dira | virtual reality ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th8_zKa0DKk | 13:37 |
| kanzure | just something fenn and I were talking about | 13:41 |
| kanzure | TypeError: object.__new__(PySwigObject) is not safe, use PySwigObject.__new__() | 13:50 |
| kanzure | fenn: the fix is to write your own __deepcopy__ apparently | 14:06 |
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| ybit2 | hey fenn, thanks for mentioning the s10-vt, that would be ideal if it could be towed away on a trailer, but the comments from the pastebin still have me concerned | 14:14 |
| ybit2 | ..about electric flight atm | 14:14 |
| fenn | that's why EESTOR being locked away from "the rest of us" by zenn and lockheed martin pisses me off | 14:15 |
| fenn | there's so much more that could be done and they aren't even thinking about it | 14:15 |
| genehacker | argh | 14:17 |
| genehacker | want ultracaps so badly | 14:17 |
| ybit2 | i think http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=IS2xAAAAEBAJ&dq=7466536 is their tech they are hoarding | 14:18 |
| fenn | what is it you're referring to? (without making me use some awful flash pdf thing) | 14:18 |
| * fenn wonders if grumpiness transmits well over irc | 14:19 | |
| ybit2 | EEStor's US patent 7466536 claims ten EESU components were tested which had an average relative permittivity of 18,500.[4] In January 2007, an independent company certified EEStor's production line's process as capable of producing 99.9994% purity barium titanate powder. According to EEStor, this is sufficient for achieving the desired permittivity.[11] | 14:20 |
| ybit2 | i just googled for the patent | 14:20 |
| fenn | ybit2: uh, ok, whatever | 14:21 |
| fenn | the point is they have it but aren't even willing to sell it on the open market | 14:21 |
| fenn | while simultaneously holding patents on it | 14:22 |
| fenn | lockheed didnt even give them any money | 14:22 |
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| fenn | "the judas mandala" isn't in my collection of 14000 scifi books, if that tells you anything | 14:26 |
| kanzure | he's no hero of mine | 14:27 |
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| kanzure | bounding boxes mode works: | 16:29 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/2009-09-07-skdb-bounding-boxes-2.png | 16:29 |
| CIA-32 | skdb: kanzure * r e44e8f5 / (core/part.py geom/geom.py paths.py): bounding boxes mode in paths.py implemented as add_valid_lego, use the b key | 16:30 |
| kanzure | wtf it's already 1630? | 16:30 |
| fenn | past my bedtime | 16:31 |
| kanzure | fenn: are you sure you're not just going to sleep 23 hours later every day? | 16:32 |
| kanzure | sorry, 23 hours earlier | 16:32 |
| fenn | yes | 16:32 |
| fenn | i don't normally sync backwards | 16:32 |
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| * bkero pieces together a resume. | 18:32 | |
| CIA-32 | skdb: kanzure * r e4ef948 /paths.py: paths.py: click on a lego and press b to add a random lego to it | 18:35 |
| CIA-32 | skdb: kanzure * r 7685483 / (gui/gui.py paths.py): move find_part into gui module | 18:46 |
| kanzure | huh randomly found a comment by chris phoenix when clicking through search results: http://ideasfactory.wordpress.com/2007/01/17/the-matter-compiler/ | 19:16 |
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| kanzure | wtf why hasn't anyway outdone mark leach yet? | 19:41 |
| kanzure | *anyone | 19:41 |
| kanzure | 'RMG is an automatic chemical reaction mechanism generator that constructs kinetic models composed of elementary chemical reaction steps using a general understanding of how molecules react (currently limited to C, H and O atoms). ' | 19:47 |
| kanzure | http://sourceforge.net/projects/rmg/ | 19:47 |
| kanzure | found here: http://web.mit.edu/cfgold/www/RMG/about.html | 19:48 |
| QuantumG | is it remotely predictive? :) | 19:48 |
| * bkero considers redoing the template of his resume. | 19:49 | |
| kanzure | QuantumG: I'm looking for a chemical reaction mechanisms database, preferably in SMILES or something that's not in english. | 19:57 |
| kanzure | superkuh: Know anything for that? | 19:58 |
| superkuh | No. | 19:58 |
| kanzure | http://www.daylight.com/meetings/emug98/Delany/rxn-smiles.html | 20:01 |
| kanzure | "Reaction SMILES is the language used for describing specific, single-step reactions. Reaction SMILES are a strict superset of molecule SMILES. Any valid molecule SMILES can be a component of a reaction SMILES." | 20:01 |
| kanzure | IIRC, this might be related to SMIRKS. | 20:01 |
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| kanzure | well this looks close to what I want: | 20:02 |
| kanzure | http://www.daylight.com/daycgi/depict?4e43436331636363284f2963284f2963313e3e4e434363316363324e43333d4343283d4f294334284f294343332843434e34294f63326363314e | 20:02 |
| kanzure | where's my metadata? | 20:03 |
| kanzure | http://www.daylight.com/meetings/emug98/Delany/rxn-tree.html | 20:03 |
| kanzure | aha. http://www.daylight.com/meetings/emug98/Delany/rxn-db.html | 20:04 |
| kanzure | '# Database from Infochem. Includes 2.5 million reactions, with citation, keywords, yield, conditions. ' | 20:04 |
| kanzure | does anyone have access to Current Chemical Reactions? I may have access, but the database doesn't seem to accessibly exidst. | 20:23 |
| kanzure | *exit | 20:23 |
| kanzure | *exist | 20:23 |
| QuantumG | is it possible to have a database of chemical reactions and do stuff like hillclimbing on it to work out, say, chemical synthesis procedures? | 20:24 |
| kanzure | yes that's called retrosynthesis | 20:29 |
| kanzure | it's what I'm doing actually | 20:29 |
| kanzure | you can break up a target molecule and work your way back to common elements | 20:29 |
| kanzure | so I want to do that, but hook it into skdb | 20:29 |
| kanzure | so that it generates the machinery that you need as well | 20:29 |
| kanzure | i.e. hardware for performing certain chemical reactions | 20:29 |
| QuantumG | in Peter F. Hamilton's book "Misspent Youth" he talks about the War On Drugs basically being ended by the creation of general home chemical synthesis devices. | 20:31 |
| QuantumG | which had lots of "legal" uses before people figured out how to hack them to get around the anti-illicit-drug protections | 20:32 |
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| kanzure | Hey glytch. | 21:58 |
| QuantumG | I've yet to find anyone who is working on a truly innovative virtual environment.. it's all very derivative.. no-one really trying for the hard problems :) | 21:59 |
| QuantumG | for example, in second life I would have expected someone to have done some mocap data streaming by now. | 21:59 |
| QuantumG | facial expression streaming... lip synching at least | 21:59 |
| kanzure | Don't look at the faces. | 21:59 |
| kanzure | They steal attention. | 21:59 |
| QuantumG | be nice if there was at least a premier place for that kinda research | 22:01 |
| QuantumG | you'd think those internet 2 bozos would be all over it | 22:01 |
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| genehacker | second life sucks | 22:46 |
| genehacker | their entire economy is based around | 22:46 |
| QuantumG | unfinished sentences? | 22:48 |
| genehacker | well uh | 23:11 |
| genehacker | you know | 23:11 |
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