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| ybit | picture of the house from google, can get a decent view of the sideyard where a mad scientist garage can be placed :) | 00:59 |
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| ybit | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=110+east+bailey+springs+drive,+florence,+al&ie=UTF8&t=h&layer=c&cbll=34.845935,-87.590109&panoid=BtNUMBVmTPeGPC3kO3Cajg&cbp=12,94.98,,0,-3.6&hq=&hnear=110+E+Bailey+Springs+Dr,+Florence,+Lauderdale,+Alabama+35634&ll=34.850298,-87.594209&spn=0.00891,0.013711&z=16 | 00:59 |
| ybit | can't decide if i want in neighborhood or on the land recently purchased from grandfather | 01:00 |
| ybit | oh right, ZZzzz | 01:02 |
| ybit | problem with that house is that it isn't in my name, so i would have to follow the owner's rules (mum), and it's in neighborhood. the land i have now is ~ 3.3x that size and it's in my name, but it's just land.. and i'm guessing a min. of $40k will have to be put in it. Right now, I'm having a tough time figuring out how to get that kind of money to plunk down from my own pocket | 01:05 |
| ybit | stock, savings, it's all ~0 at this time :\ | 01:08 |
| ybit | convincing 5 people to put in $70/month for 5 years gets me about $21k, enough to build a mudhut. | 01:08 |
| ybit | or about 10 shipping containers. | 01:09 |
| ybit | but getting 4 other people to do so is the hard part | 01:09 |
| * ybit wouldn't mind living in that junky house for 5 years and storing stuff in the garage in the meantime | 01:10 | |
| ybit | katsmeow-afk: if you don't mind me asking, how did you pay for your house? | 01:11 |
| bkero | lol there was a flash mob on campus | 01:17 |
| ybit | bkero: o.O | 01:21 |
| ybit | what for? | 01:21 |
| ybit | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=County+Hwy-107,+Killen,+Lauderdale,+Alabama+35645&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=35.219929,56.162109&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FWDBEwIdt4zJ-g&split=0&hq=&hnear=County+Hwy-107,+Killen,+Lauderdale,+Alabama+35645&ll=34.848501,-87.455775&spn=0.004455,0.006856&t=h&z=17 | 01:21 |
| bkero | ybit: Why not? | 01:21 |
| bkero | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvUBArPwArU | 01:21 |
| ybit | to the left of the A marker, below house (from the google view) | 01:22 |
| ybit | that's the land | 01:22 |
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| ybit | 34.846984,-87.456419 there, that's better | 01:24 |
| ybit | bkero: flash mobs are fun, my past midnight mind was thinking pitchforks and torches :P | 01:38 |
| * ybit has wanted a flash mob pillow fight for quite some time | 01:38 | |
| bkero | We did get flashed | 01:38 |
| ybit | not really in the mood to organize another pub event | 01:38 |
| ybit | eh? | 01:38 |
| bkero | Girl flashed the mob | 01:39 |
| bkero | THen police came | 01:39 |
| ybit | oh, b00bs, why didn't you say so? :P | 01:39 |
| bkero | And told her what she did was wrong, then presumably punished her. | 01:39 |
| ybit | hmm, did the words 'bad girl' come anyone of them? | 01:40 |
| ybit | +from | 01:40 |
| * ybit calls it a night, someone feel free to add insight to this annoying situation of building a lab | 01:41 | |
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| bkero | Don't know | 01:41 |
| ybit | s/annoying/delightful? | 01:43 |
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| genehacker | night? | 01:46 |
| genehacker | I'm don't plan on sleeping tonight | 01:46 |
| wrldpc2 | Is anyone else attending SingSum? | 02:32 |
| fenn | not that i know of.. don't you need an invitation? | 02:38 |
| kanzure | no you just kind of show up and give them money | 02:50 |
| wrldpc2 | i dunno why vassar and anissimov are being such tight asses with the press passes | 03:26 |
| wrldpc2 | it's not like all of the proceedings aren't going to be posted to the site pos-summit anyhow | 03:26 |
| wrldpc2 | t | 03:26 |
| wrldpc2 | whatever ... i just want to drink a beer with aubrey and i'll be good. | 03:27 |
| fenn | i thought you lived in boston.. | 03:28 |
| fenn | bit of a ways to go for a beer | 03:28 |
| wrldpc2 | i moved to Tenafly, NJ recently. | 03:31 |
| wrldpc2 | i had some temporary work down here and am staying with my dad. | 03:31 |
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| wrldpc2 | Does anyone have any books (in pdf format) by Yaneer Bar-Yam of the New England Complex Systems Institute (NECSI?) | 03:38 |
| kanzure | no. but i recommond salth from necsi | 03:39 |
| kanzure | *recommend | 03:39 |
| wrldpc2 | Seth Lloyd? no hits on salth | 03:40 |
| kanzure | salthe | 03:40 |
| kanzure | stan salthe | 03:40 |
| wrldpc2 | copy | 03:40 |
| wrldpc2 | do you have any of his books? | 03:42 |
| kanzure | no just a few thousand emails for some reason | 03:42 |
| wrldpc2 | ha | 03:43 |
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| wrldpc2 | Bryan you still there? | 05:19 |
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| drazak | katsmeow-afk: who the hell is this kathal guy anyway | 06:39 |
| katsmeow-afk | umm,, doesn't ring abell, should i know? | 06:39 |
| drazak | er, cathal | 06:40 |
| drazak | cathal garvey on diybio | 06:40 |
| drazak | he actually knows shit compared to 98% of the rest of the list | 06:40 |
| katsmeow-afk | Welcome :: CGarvey.ie - The personal website of Cathal GarveyCathal Garvey is an Irish IT Consultant specialising in workflow/collaborative systems, bespoke software, Internet services and hospitality networking. ... | 06:40 |
| katsmeow-afk | cgarvey.ie/ - Cached - Similar | 06:40 |
| katsmeow-afk | i dunno | 06:40 |
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| genehacker | someone who actually knows something on diybio impossible! | 10:08 |
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| wrldpc2 | So Bryan is in Chicago waiting to take off. Flight was delayed :\ | 11:05 |
| genehacker | wait a second | 11:09 |
| genehacker | seems like he'd have classes today | 11:10 |
| wrldpc2 | He's attending SingSum09. | 11:44 |
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| wrldpc2 | off to fetch bry | 13:09 |
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| ybit | bry and bennie wennie, don't they make a cute wouple? ;P | 13:31 |
| Phreedom | o_O | 13:34 |
| katsmeow-afk | so i thought a desc of a dimm was a maistake, but i got the stuff,and it says 2.6v, i wanted 2.5v, and if ddr = 2.5v , ddr2 = 1.8v, and ddr3 = 1.5v , what's 2.6v? | 13:39 |
| ybit | ddr4 | 13:42 |
| ybit | katsmeow-afk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR_SDRAM#Chips_and_modules | 13:42 |
| katsmeow-afk | it says DDR, not DDR4 | 13:42 |
| * ybit was paid to play around with linux for the second time in his life-time today | 13:42 | |
| ybit | hmm | 13:43 |
| ybit | well it's wrong | 13:43 |
| ybit | or else it really doesn't do 2.6v | 13:43 |
| katsmeow-afk | but which is wrong, the 2.6 or the DDR ? | 13:43 |
| * katsmeow-afk looks for a hammer | 13:43 | |
| ybit | katsmeow-afk: i'm guessimating the minimum cost for a house is going to be near 35k, from your experience building, how close am i? | 13:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | i dunno, i built as i had money, and didn't keep track, but $10/sqft at least | 13:45 |
| bkero | If you're building a domicile I'd recommend a dome or yurt. :) | 13:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | depends on layout and material types | 13:45 |
| bkero | Much cheaper | 13:45 |
| bkero | Also can use less dead trees | 13:46 |
| katsmeow-afk | or A frame | 13:46 |
| katsmeow-afk | in western culture tho, anything other than square tends to waste space | 13:46 |
| bkero | If you're wasting the space though, you're not doing it right :/ | 13:47 |
| katsmeow-afk | i agree | 13:47 |
| katsmeow-afk | western culture does not do everything right | 13:47 |
| bkero | I don't think I'll ever be able to afford a house around here | 13:47 |
| ybit | bkero: thanks, i forgot about the hexayurt, that's something to consider | 13:48 |
| bkero | So I'm getting a plot of land with some friends. Some of us are doing concrete-spray domes, some of us are doing earthbags, and some of us are erecting yurts. | 13:48 |
| bkero | ybit: Most yurts aren't perfectly round. Many look like low-poly cylinders | 13:48 |
| katsmeow-afk | spray isn't costing a small fortune? | 13:49 |
| bkero | Nah | 13:49 |
| bkero | Once you get a frame up with chicken wire, spraying costs a few thousand | 13:49 |
| bkero | < $4k | 13:49 |
| katsmeow-afk | anotehr option is a bubble house, you lay a slab on a large balloon, and before the contrete hardens you inflate the balloon | 13:50 |
| bkero | That sounds difficult | 13:50 |
| katsmeow-afk | i would feel beter with more than chicken wire, at least real concrete 6inch mesh wire, and preferably with at least 1/2 inch rebar | 13:50 |
| bkero | I was just going to dig a giant hole, toss the remaining dirt in bags with a 10% concrete mixture, then stack them dome-shaped, then stucco over it. | 13:51 |
| katsmeow-afk | not as difficult as spray, if you don't have the spray equipment | 13:51 |
| katsmeow-afk | eww, i tried that for chinking, the 10% + dirt, it was a waste of cement, it makes for a water soluable house | 13:51 |
| genehacker2 | well they got a bunch down here | 13:52 |
| bkero | The only equipment I'd need is a bagger | 13:52 |
| genehacker2 | or at least in the general locus of the place that sells em | 13:52 |
| bkero | katsmeow-afk: It really depends on the kind of dirt you're bagging, some is good for it, some isn't. | 13:52 |
| katsmeow-afk | ok | 13:52 |
| katsmeow-afk | save on bags, use rammed earth? | 13:52 |
| bkero | Not really as resilient | 13:52 |
| katsmeow-afk | or rammed bricks? | 13:52 |
| katsmeow-afk | ok | 13:52 |
| bkero | Rammed bricks work, but you need to seriously waterproof the outside | 13:53 |
| genehacker2 | how about those foam brick concrete composite things that are people are starting to use | 13:53 |
| katsmeow-afk | i meant rammed bricks with cement, and you already said stucco | 13:53 |
| bkero | Yea, the stucco with bags is so it doesn't look like ass though, not so much the insulation or waterproofing | 13:53 |
| bkero | If you have the proper soil you don't even need any cement mixture | 13:54 |
| genehacker2 | make walls out of these foam block things with steel between em and stack em to make molds for concrete walls | 13:54 |
| bkero | and if you like squares you can do stuff like http://www.motherearthnews.com/uploadedImages/articles/online_articles/2005-12-01/Earthbags21.gif | 13:54 |
| bkero | ...that actually looks pretty nice | 13:54 |
| genehacker2 | I think curved forms are available | 13:55 |
| bkero | Friday chowdah!!! | 13:57 |
| bkero | <3 | 13:57 |
| katsmeow-afk | i used stone-look mobile home underskirting as poured cement molds, and topped with vertical slab pours i cut (before it set up fully) with abrasive disk to resemble cut stone | 13:58 |
| ybit | http://hexayurt.com/ these aren't so bad, in one video, the guy says it's a 12 ft diameter yurt, and it looks plenty tall. could toss up several of these, each having a specific purpose | 13:58 |
| genehacker2 | http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/10/02/2009-10-02_book_reveals_chilling_details_of_how_cryonic_lab_thumped_remains_of_baseball_imm.html | 13:58 |
| genehacker2 | alcor=bad | 13:59 |
| katsmeow-afk | hmm, Tiggr has the http://www.motherearthnews.com/uploadedImages/articles/online_articles/2005-12-01/ but not that gif ,, damned fatal memory allocation errors | 13:59 |
| ybit | you would spend about 13k for ~4k sq ft if you were to go the hexayurt route. | 14:00 |
| ybit | what concerns me is the insulation | 14:00 |
| ybit | and how well is it bound to the foundation, is there a foundation, etc. | 14:00 |
| katsmeow-afk | insulation could be your most expensive item,, vs energy for hvac will be your most expensive operating cost | 14:01 |
| katsmeow-afk | bkero, what are tose bags made of, and how do the bags tie themselves together as the cement hardens in them? | 14:02 |
| ybit | here http://www.motherearthnews.com/Do-It-Yourself/Earthbag-Building-Garden-Shed.aspx?page=6 | 14:04 |
| katsmeow-afk | ybit, if you plan on heavy equipment, you will have a slab at least | 14:04 |
| ybit | here's page 1 http://www.motherearthnews.com/Do-It-Yourself/Earthbag-Building-Garden-Shed.aspx | 14:05 |
| katsmeow-afk | the bags are not in the building materials list | 14:12 |
| katsmeow-afk | ah, they are on the separate page tho | 14:13 |
| genehacker2 | http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2009/10/01/how_to_get_useful_data_out_of_a_drug_patent.php | 14:13 |
| katsmeow-afk | i can only guess that Polypropylene bags | 14:13 |
| genehacker2 | WOOHOO FOR PATENTS | 14:13 |
| katsmeow-afk | are woven? | 14:13 |
| katsmeow-afk | btw, ybit, HomeDepot orange buckets are great for mixing cement, you can make a holder with a 2x2 plywood with 2 1ft cleats in a V shape to hold the bottom of the bucket into with a toe of a foot, as you mix with a stucco/plaster paddle mixer in a 1/2 double-reduction drill | 14:15 |
| katsmeow-afk | best use 2x4ft 3/4 ply, so you have space to stand on the ply too | 14:16 |
| katsmeow-afk | this wayt he bucket won't go anywhere, but is easily removeable, as essentially nothing holds it down | 14:16 |
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| katsmeow-afk | i poured 1000's of bags of "sand topping mix" that way | 14:17 |
| katsmeow-afk | kdftyri netsplits | 14:17 |
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| katsmeow-afk | wb | 14:19 |
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| ybit | genehacker2: that does sound bad, didn't the exec.dir. of alcor offer kanzure a free pass to be frozen? | 14:24 |
| katsmeow-afk | you mean now?! | 14:25 |
| ybit | no no :P | 14:25 |
| katsmeow-afk | can't he wait till he w,, oh, ok | 14:25 |
| katsmeow-afk | btw, ybit, HomeDepot orange buckets are great for mixing cement, you can make a holder with a 2x2 plywood with 2 1ft cleats in a V shape to hold the bottom of the bucket into with a toe of a foot, as you mix with a stucco/plaster paddle mixer in a 1/2 double-reduction drill | 14:25 |
| katsmeow-afk | this wayt he bucket won't go anywhere, but is easily removeable, as essentially nothing holds it down | 14:25 |
| ybit | they probably would play with his head using an atom smasher to honor him, or maybe they would bash it with it legos, either way, sounds gruesome | 14:26 |
| katsmeow-afk | best use 2x4ft 3/4 ply, so you have space to stand on the ply too | 14:26 |
| katsmeow-afk | i poured 1000's of bags of "sand topping mix" that way | 14:26 |
| ybit | katsmeow-afk: i'll have a look | 14:27 |
| ybit | but i think i have a cement mixer at the junkyard | 14:27 |
| katsmeow-afk | oh | 14:27 |
| katsmeow-afk | i used my idea up on scaffolding, it didn't weigh anything | 14:28 |
| ybit | wish i was told this before mixing over a 1000lbs of concrete in january though :P | 14:28 |
| katsmeow-afk | ouch, winter is hard on cement | 14:28 |
| katsmeow-afk | and hands | 14:28 |
| ybit | it built muscle, i felt like a man's man, more so than i typically that is, because we all know how manly i am, right?... :) | 14:34 |
| ybit | i i i i grrr | 14:34 |
| katsmeow-afk | yea yea | 14:34 |
| ybit | 16ft diameter earthdome or yurt is about the right size | 14:52 |
| katsmeow-afk | for a home or a shop? | 14:54 |
| ybit | shop | 14:54 |
| katsmeow-afk | where do you put a 12ft lathe in a 16ft circle and still use the space around it? | 14:55 |
| ybit | that's a massive lathe | 14:55 |
| katsmeow-afk | ok, anything 12ft long | 14:55 |
| ybit | you put it in a clearspan hangar | 14:55 |
| katsmeow-afk | or 10ft | 14:55 |
| ybit | speaking of, i need to call before they close | 14:56 |
| katsmeow-afk | but you don't have a clearspan hangar, you built a 16ft yurt | 14:56 |
| ybit | then you weren't thinking very straight when you built it | 14:56 |
| katsmeow-afk | of course not, a yurt is round! | 14:57 |
| genehacker2 | wait a second | 14:59 |
| genehacker2 | do you have the lathe? | 14:59 |
| katsmeow-afk | a) it's motorless atm b) tableless too | 14:59 |
| katsmeow-afk | oh, and not 12ft long | 15:00 |
| genehacker2 | 12 ft lathe for real? | 15:00 |
| genehacker2 | 12 ft wide? | 15:00 |
| katsmeow-afk | i did say no,, but i know a place that has several | 15:00 |
| katsmeow-afk | they do truck driveshafts in them | 15:01 |
| genehacker2 | oh | 15:01 |
| genehacker2 | why are you going to do with a 12 ft lathe? | 15:01 |
| katsmeow-afk | big boat places have them too, for prop shafts | 15:01 |
| genehacker2 | make propellor drive shafts I presume | 15:01 |
| genehacker2 | you might want a friction welding machine | 15:02 |
| genehacker2 | the shipbuilding industry uses those a lot | 15:02 |
| katsmeow-afk | i might? because i saw or know of places, i might want one? | 15:03 |
| genehacker2 | friction welding makes nice long welds | 15:03 |
| genehacker2 | and can also be used to weld dissimilar metals | 15:06 |
| katsmeow-afk | ok | 15:07 |
| ybit | 21.3k for a 55ft width, 90ft length clearspan construction | 15:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | kool, a 32Mbyte x 374bit memory module | 15:09 |
| ybit | the guy on the phone had a neat idea, put the clearspan.struct. on top of shipping containers to give a little more clearance | 15:10 |
| ybit | $21.3 | 15:11 |
| katsmeow-afk | ybit, in a hurricane, i think you'd wished you'd not done the shipping containers | 15:11 |
| ybit | luckily we only have to deal with those every other year ;0 | 15:11 |
| ybit | ;) ** | 15:11 |
| bkero | katsmeow-afk: The bags can be made of a few things, let me look that up. THey're sewn together at the top. | 15:11 |
| bkero | and then laminated closed | 15:11 |
| katsmeow-afk | however, you could bolt it to the tops of 2ft thick stub walls 5ft tall | 15:11 |
| ybit | but yeah, you're right | 15:11 |
| katsmeow-afk | 2ft thick stub walls will keep humans from driving thru them with a forklift to stealstuff for scrapmetal recycling | 15:12 |
| ybit | heh, good luck getting to them with a forklift | 15:13 |
| katsmeow-afk | and hold them down,, a 55ft wide span will make for a huge sail | 15:13 |
| ybit | security is #1 priority before anything goes there | 15:13 |
| katsmeow-afk | good luck? you will need a worklift or heavy overhead traveling crane to get stuff in and out | 15:14 |
| * ybit will have to rent those | 15:14 | |
| katsmeow-afk | i need to go outside and do things irl :-(( | 15:14 |
| katsmeow-afk | an overhead traveling crane can be made cheap enough, and can go places the forklift cannot | 15:15 |
| katsmeow-afk | bbl | 15:15 |
| ybit | when you get back, katsmeow-afk, if i haven't posted links to diy cranes, i want details :) | 15:16 |
| genehacker2 | now what are you guys trying to do? | 15:16 |
| genehacker2 | set up a manufacturing center in the country? | 15:16 |
| * ybit is still on this weeks' kick: building a lab | 15:17 | |
| ybit | genehacker2: yeah, no building codes or neighborhood rules | 15:17 |
| Utopiah | http://www.seeedstudio.com/ | 15:21 |
| Utopiah | http://liquidware.pbworks.com/ | 15:29 |
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| genehacker2 | sweed | 16:00 |
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| * katsmeow-afk wonders if ybit will provide visitors with language translation services | 16:43 | |
| katsmeow-afk | for instance, i was outside "awk whale'd'ing" , which has nothing to do with awks or whales | 16:43 |
| katsmeow-afk | and "chewbacca" has nothing to do with a certian Star Wars character, altho the guy who said "chewbacca" to you may sound like the character | 16:44 |
| * bkero gawks | 16:45 | |
| bkero | gnu awk :) | 16:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | ah :-) | 16:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | and if they talk about going to Sprangvale, there's no such town, but there is a Springville | 16:46 |
| katsmeow-afk | Tramlaw is not the act of leaving Walmart | 16:47 |
| * bkero stuck in oregons. | 16:48 | |
| * katsmeow-afk tosses out http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2004/Sandra-CPU-Dhrystone,449.html fwiw | 16:48 | |
| katsmeow-afk | a Intel Pentium 4 EE 3.72 GHz Prescott,3724/266,925XE,DDR2-533 is 10x faster than a AMD K6-2+ 550 Chompers,550/100,MVP3,SDR100 | 16:50 |
| bkero | Hehe | 16:59 |
| katsmeow-afk | 10x faster in 10 yrs, that means they get 1x faster per year,,,, which means 10mips x 1 = 10mips the 2nd year, and 10mips x1 = 10mips the 3rd year,, math doesn't lie? | 17:01 |
| Utopiah | 1x faster , smart Intel | 17:01 |
| katsmeow-afk | southwest coast of .nz is getting 50ft waves atm | 17:02 |
| bkero | And pumps out about 10x as much heat | 17:04 |
| katsmeow-afk | imagine if they did! | 17:05 |
| katsmeow-afk | for the same thruput | 17:05 |
| katsmeow-afk | a new P4 doing 5x the work, putting out 250 watts of heat (5x 50w of a P1) | 17:05 |
| bkero | Pentium 3's were introduced in 1999. If we compare them with Core i7s, they're a hell of a lot faster than 10x. | 17:06 |
| * katsmeow-afk nods | 17:06 | |
| katsmeow-afk | i gave the url for 2004 tests because i was interested in the single core benches | 17:06 |
| katsmeow-afk | either browse the site for new benches, or replace 2004 in the urlwith 2008 or 2009 | 17:07 |
| bkero | K6/K6-2's kind of sucked | 17:07 |
| * katsmeow-afk needs to go back outside a while | 17:07 | |
| bkero | K7's are where athlons started handing intel their pants | 17:07 |
| katsmeow-afk | but then the P4 hands the pants back? wait, does that means the Athlons wears the pants in this race? | 17:08 |
| bkero | P4's never really performed that well against athlons :P | 17:09 |
| bkero | Especially not if you factored price into it | 17:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | they do on that bench | 17:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | oh | 17:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | well, i am up to buying 5 yr old puters atm,, or i was, till some guy came along and is offering $120 for these things | 17:10 |
| bkero | Heh | 17:10 |
| * katsmeow-afk goes afk-er | 17:10 | |
| bkero | For modern performance | 17:10 |
| bkero | $100 quad core 2.6GHz Athlon 64, $60 motherboard, $20 case, $20 RAM | 17:11 |
| katsmeow-afk | but what software uses 4 cores? | 17:27 |
| bkero | Your operating system | 17:27 |
| bkero | Firefox is going to start very soon, it already uses 2 | 17:28 |
| katsmeow-afk | winxp is single threaded, i thought | 17:28 |
| bkero | An OS can't be really | 17:28 |
| bkero | It can block on certain things, but still execute things in parallel | 17:28 |
| katsmeow-afk | so what good are multiple cores? | 17:28 |
| bkero | For instance, svchost handles services, that's a process that can run on one core, explorer.exe can run on another, firefox can run on a third, etc | 17:28 |
| katsmeow-afk | oh | 17:29 |
| bkero | There's just a big pool of processes | 17:29 |
| bkero | It's ordered in a queue | 17:29 |
| bkero | and when a process needs to do something, there's a handler at the end of the queue that tells the process to "go to the freest core" | 17:29 |
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| katsmeow-afk | well cusswords | 17:29 |
| genehacker2 | you know if you made a phased array of wave generators you could make giant waves and take out invading navy ships tryint to infringe on your seacolony | 17:33 |
| katsmeow-afk | still be a heck of a lot of energy, and wouldn't stop the missiles | 17:34 |
| genehacker2 | guess it wouldn't | 17:34 |
| genehacker2 | but an AB dome could stop those | 17:34 |
| genehacker2 | probably | 17:34 |
| ybit | feel free to connect to the mumber server on this comp., because switching between screens and typing gets annoying 71.228.183.181 | 17:35 |
| ybit | mumble* | 17:35 |
| genehacker2 | is hey bryan down? | 17:36 |
| genehacker2 | fuck it is | 17:36 |
| ybit | 16:43 * katsmeow-afk wonders if ybit will provide visitors with language translation services | 17:37 |
| ybit | oh, i was thinking spanish until i read further :P | 17:37 |
| katsmeow-afk | heh | 17:37 |
| ybit | seems no friends are willing to contribute captial to the project, just sigs :-\ | 17:38 |
| ybit | for some reason, i receive awkward reactions when i mention a garden, well, and solar panels | 17:39 |
| katsmeow-afk | solar panels barely pay for themselves, and some won't | 17:39 |
| ybit | go on | 17:40 |
| ybit | i realize they are expensive | 17:40 |
| katsmeow-afk | buying them now makes sense only in terms of future price hikes in electricity and devaluation of the dollar | 17:40 |
| katsmeow-afk | and scarcity of silicon cell ingredients | 17:40 |
| katsmeow-afk | and with the EPA yesterday saying they will start clamping down on pollution from large point sources (read: coal power plants) electricity costs WILL go up again soon | 17:41 |
| katsmeow-afk | so far AlaPwrCo has gotten out of improving power plants built 60 yrs ago | 17:42 |
| genehacker2 | what about nanoantenna solar cells? | 17:42 |
| katsmeow-afk | what about them? | 17:43 |
| katsmeow-afk | the 2009 cpu charts don't show Atoms or ARMs | 17:44 |
| bkero | Tomshardware is too stupid to know ARM exists | 17:45 |
| bkero | and no idea why they don't show Atoms | 17:45 |
| bkero | Oh yea, and all of their tests are closed source and cost money, which means you can't compile them for ARM | 17:45 |
| genehacker2 | 90% efficient(over a narrow range of frequencies), could work at night(they work in the infrared spectrum especially the the range which stuff heated up in the day emits), are made of metal patterned how hologram stickers are made | 17:45 |
| ybit | btw katsmeow-afk, how are you planning on powering your boat? small turbines in the bottom? | 17:45 |
| ybit | (just a guess) | 17:45 |
| katsmeow-afk | genehacker2, kool, where can we get them? | 17:45 |
| genehacker2 | but they only produce unusuable high frequency AC at the frequency of infrared light | 17:46 |
| genehacker2 | ohio national laboratories | 17:46 |
| katsmeow-afk | ybit, i have 10 solar panels, a couple car engines, and i wanna try turbines (i have a couple plain turbine wheel disks), and otec,, sails, wind | 17:46 |
| katsmeow-afk | why is it unuseable? | 17:47 |
| genehacker2 | it's high frequency AC current that's oscillating at the frequency of infrared radiation | 17:47 |
| genehacker2 | it's unrectifiable | 17:47 |
| katsmeow-afk | so? will it go down a wire? | 17:48 |
| genehacker2 | yeah | 17:48 |
| genehacker2 | I think so | 17:48 |
| katsmeow-afk | then it can make light and heat? | 17:48 |
| genehacker2 | yeah but what good is a solar powered light bulb? | 17:48 |
| katsmeow-afk | [17:46] <genehacker2> 90% efficient(over a narrow range of frequencies), could work at night | 17:49 |
| genehacker2 | oh yeah | 17:49 |
| katsmeow-afk | besides, "inside" is not "outside in the sun" | 17:49 |
| katsmeow-afk | and if the power will go down a wire, then it can go into and be concentrated in a convertor tomake a easier-to-use form | 17:50 |
| genehacker2 | how do you rectify something oscillating at the frequency of light? | 17:50 |
| katsmeow-afk | you don't, i think | 17:50 |
| katsmeow-afk | why do you wanna keep doing that? | 17:50 |
| genehacker2 | I don't know if it can go down a wire | 17:51 |
| genehacker2 | I want DC current | 17:51 |
| katsmeow-afk | [17:49] <katsmeow-afk> so? will it go down a wire? | 17:51 |
| katsmeow-afk | [17:49] <genehacker2> yeah | 17:51 |
| katsmeow-afk | i know you want dc, but if it's 98% effcient in collection, can you waste 10% to convert it to dc and still come out ahead? | 17:52 |
| katsmeow-afk | say "yeas" | 17:53 |
| genehacker2 | ok | 17:54 |
| katsmeow-afk | The nanoantennas consist of tiny gold squares or spirals set in a specially treated layer of polyethylene, a common plastic. <<== poly won't last one year outside in the sun | 17:56 |
| genehacker2 | well yeah | 17:57 |
| genehacker2 | at a dollar per square foot, you can't go wrong | 17:57 |
| genehacker2 | but it looks like the cooler applications are cooling stuff with these things | 17:57 |
| katsmeow-afk | yeas, you can, labor to replace the entire array | 17:57 |
| genehacker2 | convert the radiated heat from your computer chip to electricity and have a laptop that runs a long time | 17:58 |
| katsmeow-afk | won't work, the cpu hasto have the heat sucked from it into something cooler, not radiated into the air | 17:58 |
| genehacker2 | the CPU emits infrared radiation | 18:00 |
| genehacker2 | if the radiation is turned into electricity then the net heat flow is to the solar cell | 18:00 |
| katsmeow-afk | if the cpu can do without the heatsink with forced air, then why do we have all cpu with heatsinks and forced air? | 18:02 |
| genehacker2 | unfortunately you still can't convert all the heat into electricity though | 18:02 |
| genehacker2 | heh guess so | 18:02 |
| genehacker2 | I guess one could use some sort of heat pump to pump the heat to a thermal accumulator | 18:03 |
| genehacker2 | to increase it's temperature so that it incandesces | 18:03 |
| katsmeow-afk | yea,,, let me know how that works out? | 18:03 |
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| katsmeow-afk | ok, going bak outside | 18:05 |
| * ybit is off to bed | 19:03 | |
| drazak | later ybit | 19:07 |
| fenn | zero emails today.. i must be experiencing causal domain shear | 20:27 |
| genehacker2 | why | 20:37 |
| genehacker2 | is heybryan down? | 20:37 |
| fenn | probably because kanzure stole the external disk | 20:37 |
| genehacker2 | huh? | 20:38 |
| genehacker2 | oh | 20:38 |
| genehacker2 | ok | 20:38 |
| genehacker2 | usually I leave my external disk home when I travel | 20:38 |
| genehacker2 | that way I won't lose my data | 20:38 |
| fenn | i think he's planning on being promiscuous | 20:38 |
| fenn | with his data that is | 20:38 |
| genehacker2 | how he doesn't get any viruses | 20:39 |
| genehacker2 | well in that case | 20:39 |
| genehacker2 | that's understandable | 20:39 |
| fenn | you would never pass a turing test | 20:39 |
| genehacker2 | sigh | 20:39 |
| genehacker2 | you might be right | 20:39 |
| fenn | <3 tranceport 4 disk 2 | 20:41 |
| fenn | it makes me want to go looking for a rave | 20:41 |
| fenn | or buy a motorcycle and drive to alaska | 20:42 |
| fenn | bad time of year to go to alaska | 20:42 |
| genehacker2 | some people are | 20:42 |
| genehacker2 | TEXAS FOR CANCER! | 20:43 |
| fenn | oh right | 20:43 |
| genehacker2 | WE'RE BIKEING ALL THE WAY FROM TEXAS TO ALASKA TO CURE CANCER | 20:43 |
| fenn | am i allowed to ride with them if i have cancer? | 20:43 |
| genehacker2 | ok but how does biking cure cancer? | 20:43 |
| fenn | will it cure me? | 20:43 |
| genehacker2 | no | 20:44 |
| genehacker2 | I think I found a problem with lunar replicators | 20:44 |
| fenn | not enough chlorine i hear | 20:44 |
| genehacker2 | the only practical way to weld large dissimilar metal plates for chemical pressure vessels and other pressure vessels is explosion welding | 20:45 |
| fenn | why dissimilar? | 20:46 |
| genehacker2 | corrosion resistance | 20:46 |
| genehacker2 | extreme environment resistance | 20:46 |
| fenn | i dont get it | 20:46 |
| fenn | why would you weld dissimilar metals | 20:46 |
| genehacker2 | to make clad | 20:46 |
| genehacker2 | which is necessary for some extreme environment applications | 20:47 |
| genehacker2 | particulary in oil refineries and chemical plants and cryogenics plants | 20:47 |
| genehacker2 | but as far as I can tell explosion welding is really the only way to do this | 20:48 |
| kanzure | ha ha | 20:50 |
| genehacker2 | sup | 20:50 |
| kanzure | so there was this "VIP" meeting for the summit tonight | 20:50 |
| kanzure | i wasn't invited | 20:50 |
| genehacker2 | how's SingSum | 20:50 |
| kanzure | i showed up anyway | 20:50 |
| kanzure | it was absolutely awesome | 20:50 |
| genehacker2 | and? | 20:50 |
| genehacker2 | what'd you do? | 20:50 |
| kanzure | just mingled with people who have more money than they know what do with | 20:50 |
| fenn | did you tell them what to do with it? | 20:50 |
| genehacker2 | damn | 20:51 |
| kanzure | not directly | 20:51 |
| kanzure | this was at the bloomburg building | 20:51 |
| kanzure | the tallest building left in ny | 20:51 |
| kanzure | at the top floor | 20:51 |
| genehacker2 | WHOA | 20:51 |
| genehacker2 | how'd you get in? | 20:52 |
| kanzure | well | 20:52 |
| kanzure | alter ben and i were walking around in new york | 20:52 |
| kanzure | we had just left the 2600 meetupo | 20:52 |
| kanzure | *meetup | 20:52 |
| kanzure | and michael anissimov recognized me on the streets | 20:52 |
| kanzure | he was hailing a cab | 20:52 |
| kanzure | and i asked where he was going, and he said the VIP meeting | 20:52 |
| kanzure | he was dressed in a suit and tie | 20:53 |
| kanzure | so i called ben goartzel and said that i had lost my baggage and thus didn't know the address | 20:53 |
| kanzure | so he kindly explained how to get there | 20:53 |
| kanzure | and then i showed up in jeans and a t-shirt | 20:53 |
| genehacker2 | sounds like a social hack | 20:53 |
| kanzure | yep that's exactly what it was | 20:53 |
| kanzure | anna saw me there and her brain blew up | 20:54 |
| genehacker2 | anna who? | 20:54 |
| kanzure | she and i lived together for a few weeks in 2008 | 20:54 |
| kanzure | anyway | 20:54 |
| genehacker2 | sounds like you're having fun | 20:54 |
| kanzure | they were handing out "speaker packets" to every one | 20:54 |
| kanzure | and some poor kid was handing them out, he didn't know anything | 20:54 |
| kanzure | so i asked him, very loudly, where mine was | 20:54 |
| kanzure | then i asked eliezer directly where my speaker-packet was | 20:54 |
| kanzure | since i was supposed to deliver a talk | 20:54 |
| kanzure | (of course, i wasn't) | 20:54 |
| kanzure | but now i think if i just start talking tomorrow maybe someone will listen | 20:55 |
| fenn | yep | 20:55 |
| fenn | do you have anything to talk about? :P | 20:55 |
| kanzure | no | 20:55 |
| kanzure | do they? | 20:55 |
| fenn | but they have powerpoints! | 20:55 |
| genehacker2 | daw, now kurzweil won't be able to get a speaker packet | 20:55 |
| genehacker2 | oh wait | 20:55 |
| genehacker2 | that's a good thing | 20:55 |
| kanzure | now i have all these business cards stuffed in my pocket | 20:56 |
| genehacker2 | nice | 20:56 |
| kanzure | "give me an email and i will give you money. this is not the martini talking." | 20:56 |
| kanzure | here's my theory about these social parties | 20:56 |
| genehacker2 | for real? | 20:56 |
| kanzure | they are all crammed into very tiny apartments/pads | 20:56 |
| kanzure | so you have to yell at the top of your lungs to get anybody to hear it | 20:56 |
| kanzure | poor anders sandberg could barely hear me | 20:56 |
| kanzure | and when you yell, you sound smarter or something | 20:56 |
| kanzure | because of all of the background noise | 20:57 |
| genehacker2 | well you just have to project your voice | 20:57 |
| genehacker2 | anyway sounds like you're doing good, hope you get some sort of way to advance skdb | 20:58 |
| fenn | so it's like 10pm what are you doing on IRC? | 20:58 |
| kanzure | sitting around at the marriot | 20:59 |
| genehacker2 | GTFO | 20:59 |
| kanzure | someone introduced me to michael vassar and said "this is bryan and he's crashing this party" | 20:59 |
| fenn | srsly | 20:59 |
| kanzure | and he told me to leave | 20:59 |
| kanzure | so i quitely snuck out | 20:59 |
| kanzure | i left enough of a mark though | 20:59 |
| kanzure | okay i guess i can walk around | 21:00 |
| kanzure | my feet kind of hurt though | 21:00 |
| fenn | i'm surprised you didn't bring you camera after all that fuss | 21:01 |
| fenn | or the mini toothpaste tubes on the table | 21:01 |
| kanzure | what camera? | 21:01 |
| fenn | the red one | 21:01 |
| kanzure | it doesn't have a battery | 21:01 |
| genehacker2 | sounds like airline thrombosis | 21:01 |
| genehacker2 | don't sit | 21:02 |
| fenn | yeah go out and do something | 21:02 |
| kanzure | where should i put my stuff | 21:02 |
| * fenn goes to freebirds for a night of excitement | 21:02 | |
| genehacker2 | put object stuff into hotel room | 21:02 |
| kanzure | there is no hotel room | 21:03 |
| kanzure | i'm waiting for this other guy to show up | 21:03 |
| fenn | too much stuff | 21:04 |
| kanzure | yeah i guess so | 21:04 |
| genehacker2 | how are you online? | 21:04 |
| kanzure | marriot | 21:05 |
| kanzure | sitting in a hotel lobby | 21:05 |
| genehacker2 | does your laptop have a camera on it? | 21:05 |
| kanzure | yes | 21:05 |
| genehacker2 | hmm... | 21:06 |
| kanzure | i need to write some follow-up emails | 21:06 |
| kanzure | met this guy from NBC news | 21:06 |
| kanzure | other various folks | 21:06 |
| genehacker2 | I would say leave the bag unattended and use your laptop to stream video | 21:06 |
| kanzure | i met a guy who claimed to have invented retrosynthetic analysis five years before the other guy got the nobel prize for it | 21:07 |
| ybit | genehacker2: what's the point of that? :P | 21:07 |
| kanzure | dan stoicescu | 21:07 |
| * ybit didn't sleep | 21:07 | |
| genehacker2 | well if bryan can make it look like the laptop has some sort of video security system then it's less likely to get stolen | 21:08 |
| fenn | lulz | 21:08 |
| genehacker2 | anyway write those follow ups | 21:08 |
| genehacker2 | GO GO GO | 21:08 |
| genehacker2 | I've contemplated doing that with my laptop sometime | 21:08 |
| fenn | before you forget who you really are | 21:08 |
| fenn | erm i mean before you remember who you really are.. or something | 21:08 |
| kanzure | hm why does one of these guys have an @santafe.edu address | 21:09 |
| ybit | realization why solar isn't the way to go for me atm: http://pastebin.com/m3b87c668 | 21:09 |
| fenn | santafe institute did a lot of complexity theory | 21:09 |
| ybit | where is wrldpc during all of this? | 21:10 |
| kanzure | oh he's my driver so he gets in for free | 21:10 |
| kanzure | they let him slip in | 21:10 |
| genehacker2 | driver? | 21:11 |
| genehacker2 | ok | 21:11 |
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| kanzure | hey wrldpc2 | 21:15 |
| wrldpc2 | yo! | 21:15 |
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| kanzure | wrldpc2: i lost the little chip that the guy from cdsomething gave me | 21:18 |
| kanzure | do you have one? | 21:18 |
| genehacker | chips what sort of chips? | 21:19 |
| wrldpc2 | I got it. | 21:19 |
| wrldpc2 | give it to ya mañana | 21:19 |
| genehacker | make sure it's not buged | 21:19 |
| wrldpc2 | true | 21:20 |
| wrldpc2 | they look clean | 21:21 |
| genehacker | what sort of chips are they? | 21:21 |
| genehacker | some sort of id chip or data chip? | 21:22 |
| kanzure | no | 21:22 |
| kanzure | it might be a guitar pick | 21:23 |
| genehacker | it's a guitar pick | 21:24 |
| genehacker | anyway have fun | 21:24 |
| genehacker | I'm trawling the web for some microbio stuff | 21:24 |
| kanzure | heh anna just walked in | 21:25 |
| genehacker | time to get off the computer | 21:26 |
| kanzure | met some new york nerds at 2600 | 21:30 |
| genehacker | hmmm... | 21:31 |
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| kanzure | hah | 21:47 |
| kanzure | that was peter thiel's pent house | 21:47 |
| fenn | now you can sneak in in the middle of the night and whisper socialist propaganda into his quietly sleeping ear | 21:49 |
| kanzure | "His NY apartment boasts an $8,000 armchair designed by 20th-century designer Tommi Parzinger, whose clients included Marilyn Monroe; a $15,000 sofa by Mattaliano, and $25,000 Neidermaier dining chairs." | 21:49 |
| ybit | sounds like a waste of money | 21:51 |
| fenn | i bet the rent is way more | 21:53 |
| fenn | this is kinda cool.. i have line of sight to zilker park so i can hear austin city limits quite clearly | 21:55 |
| wrldpc2 | wow | 21:56 |
| fenn | no idea who is playing though | 21:56 |
| wrldpc2 | cool | 21:56 |
| wrldpc2 | shotgun mic | 21:56 |
| kanzure | hm there goes eliezer, goertzel and a few others | 22:07 |
| kanzure | hi emil | 22:07 |
| kanzure | why is everyone here? | 22:07 |
| wrldpc2 | lolwtf | 22:08 |
| genehacker | THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! | 22:11 |
| genehacker | speaking of ACL, I should probably head down there tomorrow and assassinate my target(in a game not IRL) | 22:12 |
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| wrldpc2 | awesome | 22:35 |
| bkero | http://www.interestingprojects.com/cruisemissile/ Ahh yea | 22:42 |
| fenn | "rest assured that, while I intend to provide plenty of very interesting detail about what I'm doing, the detail of how some of the critical aspects will not be disclosed here, for obvious reasons. " | 22:50 |
| fenn | i wish people wouldn't assume their obvious reasons are obvious | 22:50 |
| genehacker | if you're going to build a cruise missile, build a cruise missile shooter downer too | 22:52 |
| genehacker | can't have chaos if one side is unbalanced | 22:52 |
| fenn | is an anti cruise missile a type of cruise missile? | 22:53 |
| genehacker | I don't know | 22:53 |
| bkero | Need an open source cruise missile for $5000 minus payload | 22:55 |
| fenn | i wonder how he justifies charging for subscription since supposedly he's just doing it to create public awareness | 22:57 |
| genehacker | how about hand missile launcher and a ship with an integrated missile microfactory | 22:57 |
| fenn | hmm there's a huge flaw in his flight control electronics | 22:58 |
| genehacker | maybe the CIA made him put that there | 22:58 |
| fenn | he uses GPS for position, but ALL non-military GPS receivers will blank out if you go over a certain speed | 22:58 |
| genehacker | why? | 22:58 |
| genehacker | they work in airplanes fairly well | 22:59 |
| fenn | to prevent people from launching DIY cruise missiles, presumably | 22:59 |
| genehacker | that feature can be disabled | 22:59 |
| fenn | uhm no | 22:59 |
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| genehacker | by using the new gps system that just came out | 23:00 |
| fenn | looks like it's about 500m/s | 23:00 |
| fenn | so the cruise missile wouldn't be affected.. nevermind | 23:00 |
| genehacker | any one could just use a really good inertial guidance system | 23:01 |
| fenn | yeah right | 23:01 |
| genehacker | laser ring gyros perhaps? | 23:02 |
| genehacker | acoustic ring gyros? | 23:02 |
| fenn | wish i had something that went 500m/s to test this assertion with | 23:03 |
| fenn | 'Note: for obvious reasons, I will not be releasing full details of the flight control software to anyone except government or military departments from "friendly" countries.' | 23:05 |
| fenn | more obvious reasons... | 23:06 |
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| fenn | "A court in Brazil has ruled that P2P software is illegal in that country, on the grounds that it is primarily used to infringe the legal rights of those who create copyrighted material." | 23:39 |
| bkero | Bahaha. <3 UnitedNuclear. http://www.unitednuclear.com/deathray.htm | 23:44 |
| bkero | In other words, I won't be moving to Brazil. | 23:45 |
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| bkero | Don't want to live in America | 23:45 |
| bkero | Where can I go do things and not be prosecuted? | 23:46 |
| fenn | cyberia | 23:47 |
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| fenn | 80 watt is hardly a death ray | 23:48 |
| fenn | that doesn't mean i dont want one | 23:48 |
| fenn | the longoria machine sounds more like an x-ray or gamma ray emitter | 23:53 |
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| bkero | what the fuck fuck fuck fuck | 23:59 |
| bkero | http://twitpic.com/k1v49 http://twitpic.com/k1vd8 http://twitpic.com/k1ve5 http://twitpic.com/k1vhu http://twitpic.com/k1vmk http://twitpic.com/k1vrw http://twitpic.com/k1vuy http://twitpic.com/k1vzf http://twitpic.com/k1w4o http://twitpic.com/k1wj3 http://twitpic.com/k1wke http://twitpic.com/k1wl9 http://twitpic.com/k1wm8 | 23:59 |
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