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| genehacker | http://theuniverseas.com/how-useful-are-you-take-this-technology-quiz | 02:11 |
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| fenn | i got 10/10 on the technology quiz but for some reason i don't feel proud | 04:16 |
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| genehacker | yeah | 04:29 |
| kanzure | "obama wins nobel peace prize" http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5981JK20091009 | 04:29 |
| genehacker | still it's good stuff to know | 04:29 |
| genehacker | meh | 04:30 |
| genehacker | more interested in the other nobel prizes | 04:30 |
| kanzure | i think it's funny | 04:31 |
| genehacker | wait a second did he really win? | 04:31 |
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| genehacker | we need those nukes you knoww | 04:32 |
| genehacker | for in case of alien attack or impending meteor impact | 04:32 |
| genehacker | woohoo enough time for 3 hours of sleep | 04:33 |
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| fenn | web scraping for profit? http://www.aggdata.com/about | 06:32 |
| fenn | i can't believe they make money on this.. | 06:33 |
| fenn | $39 for a list of all arby's restaurants.. how many people need to know this? | 06:34 |
| drazak | I dunno man | 06:46 |
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| fenn | so drazak what made you decide to read anathem? and how far in are you? | 08:11 |
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| fenn | kanzure: as requested, please come up with a list of things you want to talk about for h+ summit that are not things that I want to talk about | 08:41 |
| fenn | i.e. diybio stuff | 08:41 |
| fenn | or should i make a list of things i want and you can find the complement? | 08:41 |
| fenn | and are we really last in the lineup? | 08:41 |
| kanzure | there's a diybio talk too so i don't know if that's game for me | 08:43 |
| kanzure | i definitely want one of us to do a demo | 08:43 |
| kanzure | (whatever that means) | 08:43 |
| kanzure | i'll get a list i guess | 08:43 |
| fenn | fwiw i think the talk should be more about the generic concepts and less about our specific implementation, or it will come across as a sales pitch | 08:47 |
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| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/topics huh a different view on google groups? | 09:51 |
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| kanzure | does anyone know what file format a sharepoint presentation is probably going to be in? | 10:26 |
| kanzure | for instance, powerpoint is typically in ppt | 10:26 |
| fenn | "Personally my working theory is that Nepotism is the only way anything gets done, all declarations of meritocracy and transparency to the contrary." - joseph jackson | 10:46 |
| katsmeow-afk | kanzure , prolly more work than needed : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabetical_list_of_file_extensions | 10:49 |
| fenn | that damn genehcker | 11:17 |
| fenn | always closing his laptop | 11:17 |
| fenn | here's your igem ripoff http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3063/2942143955_995c9f6a20.jpg | 11:46 |
| fenn | i still think it's dumb though | 11:46 |
| kanzure | http://lwn.net/2001/features/KernelSummit/ | 11:48 |
| fenn | kanzure: the bjork robot video i was talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjAoBKagWQA | 12:08 |
| fenn | warning: cheese factor 0.6 | 12:14 |
| fenn | mumble mumble transhumanist theme song etc | 12:17 |
| fenn | this page kept coming up repeatedly http://cscott.net/Projects/FabClass/ | 12:32 |
| fenn | as well as random people from cba: alex slocum, cynthia breazel, saul griffith, | 12:33 |
| fenn | and the OLPC is in the same clique | 12:35 |
| fenn | without OLPC the whole netbook thing would never have happened | 12:36 |
| fenn | i remember thinking it was really cool even if you ignored the whole 'humanitarian' aspect | 12:36 |
| fenn | it's kinda scary i actually understand what this is saying now http://cscott.net/Projects/Mallard/ | 12:50 |
| bkero | wtf http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aVcHn1Ig_M1E | 12:51 |
| fenn | well at least he agrees that he doesn't deserve it | 12:55 |
| bkero | Didn't see that one coming | 12:57 |
| fenn | i was under the impression that you had to campaign pretty hard to actually win a nobel prize (at least the science ones) | 12:59 |
| bkero | Yea | 13:04 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COCOMO | 14:03 |
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| kanzure | woot | 14:39 |
| kanzure | http://ng.cba.mit.edu/show/video.html | 14:40 |
| fenn | my "holy crap" was in response to http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=113815459076713258356.000463b77495ac9c316f8&source=embed&ll=41.838874,-87.673645&spn=0.434828,0.583649 | 14:41 |
| ybit | ah, the tornado siren beside my house, nothing like the feeling that your ears may fall off | 14:51 |
| * ybit badly wants to see a tornado | 14:52 | |
| ybit | any suggestions for live weather radar updates? | 14:53 |
| ybit | aside from the t.v. | 14:53 |
| fenn | nws.noaa.gov | 14:53 |
| fenn | it wants java but overall seems to be the least annoying website | 14:54 |
| ybit | indeed, thanks for the recommendation | 14:55 |
| fenn | is there sound in this video? any idea wtf is happening? http://ng.cba.mit.edu/show/demo/siljet.mpg | 14:56 |
| ybit | no sound | 14:58 |
| fenn | i want to be this guy when i grow up http://ng.cba.mit.edu/show/video/09.04.Spirit_Chair.mpg | 15:25 |
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| fenn | this looks pretty simple to make http://ng.cba.mit.edu/show/video/09.04.electro_stepper.mpg | 15:33 |
| fenn | based on the same principle as a hypocycloid gear | 15:33 |
| any54251606 | ybit http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?ID=BMX®ion=c4&lat=33.51913834&lon=-86.80933380&label=Birmingham%2c%20AL | 16:21 |
| any54251606 | pic your own zip | 16:21 |
| ybit | any54251606: is it updated more often than nws? | 16:30 |
| ybit | what's different | 16:30 |
| kanzure | not sure how to organize the presentation | 16:32 |
| kanzure | i have this large section on gnu, fsf, osi, linux, debian, ubuntu, etc., | 16:32 |
| ybit | please do a better job than i did | 16:32 |
| kanzure | but i'm not sure if i should put all this 'diy' stuff before or after it | 16:33 |
| bkero | I know some stuff about open source :) | 16:34 |
| ybit | just because you work in an open source lab? oh come on! ;) | 16:35 |
| kanzure | huh where did this come from? http://blog.raamdev.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/apt-get-wife.png | 16:35 |
| kanzure | ooh | 16:36 |
| kanzure | http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z95/fondis002/apt-get-a-1.png | 16:36 |
| any54251606 | ybit, i didn't time either | 16:36 |
| any54251606 | you can zoom with the wunderground one | 16:37 |
| any54251606 | neither will update with my FF | 16:37 |
| kanzure | ybit: i don't get it. http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs24/f/2009/248/b/6/Sudowoodo_apt_get_by_Lexino.jpg | 16:37 |
| ybit | guess that's on the minor todo list at some point, to figure out which online weather service has more up-to-date radar images, and which one tells me if i'm about to be tossed a good ways off my chair | 16:38 |
| any54251606 | ybit, the wunderground yo can also recenter by clicking where you want the center to be | 16:38 |
| * any54251606 is roughly under the 'm' in "bham" | 16:39 | |
| ybit | kanzure: maybe they are saying the grown-up one has super powers the younger one didn't, don't know | 16:40 |
| kanzure | this is not a good job: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/blog/entry/images/apt-diagram-simple.png | 16:41 |
| kanzure | ybit: sudowoodo.. i just don't get it. sudowodoo wasn't a good pokemon anyway | 16:41 |
| * ybit has to find the 200 links that were open, but are now lost to oblivion | 16:41 | |
| ybit | right, i can't even think of a good joke about him carrying 6 balls | 16:42 |
| ybit | off to deposit stock money and hopefully have the freerunner on the way | 16:43 |
| kanzure | i just want a little diagram of a machine sucking up this giant web of dependencies and spitting out a "hello, dave, what would you like to do today?" login screen | 16:43 |
| kanzure | is this too much to ask for? | 16:43 |
| ybit | i can draw something real quick.. later though | 16:43 |
| * any54251606 wants an animation of a robot driving down a divided interstate, with a gps telling it to turn left, and a camera zoom out showing the left side of the car being ground off by the divider, the robot looking left, it's nose being ground off my the concrete divider, saying that option is greyed out | 16:45 | |
| any54251606 | everyone who remembers that ibuprofen is ototoxic, raise your hand | 16:50 |
| any54251606 | WHAT? | 16:51 |
| any54251606 | ican't hear you, what part of "it's ototoxic, raise your hand " didn't you understand? | 16:51 |
| kanzure | maybe we need a penguin opening up lots of packages and unpacking stuff | 16:53 |
| drazak | I am motherfucking exhausted | 17:08 |
| fenn | i think yoko ono should have won the nobel peace prize | 17:19 |
| drazak | rofl | 17:21 |
| fenn | what happened at something:30 on october 9th? | 17:24 |
| drazak | also what the fuck | 17:25 |
| drazak | my computer won't play music | 17:25 |
| drazak | ugh I hate doing reverse transcriptase | 18:02 |
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| ybit | soft tiles and reflectix insulation, two neat technologies i just became aware of | 19:33 |
| ybit | vinay gupa or however you spell his name just told me also that hexayurts with this type of tech can survive -6C easy, any54251606, comment? | 19:34 |
| * ybit is about to post an email to the hexayurt mailing list concerning price comparisons on alt building methods | 19:35 | |
| ybit | and apparently the death star i keep seeing is an inflatable satellite dish | 19:40 |
| ybit | http://tinyhouseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/hexayurt1.jpg | 19:40 |
| ybit | http://www.gatr.com/ | 19:40 |
| kanzure | dum de do | 19:43 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/screenshots/2009-10-09.png | 19:43 |
| kanzure | http://prezi.com/ eh? | 19:49 |
| ybit | http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt/browse_thread/thread/2fe50bc9a57842fe | 19:50 |
| ybit | nothing there really, the poster just makes me feel rich and 21st centuryish if i go the hexayurt route | 19:53 |
| ybit | http://www.appropedia.org/Hexayurt_schematics | 19:54 |
| ybit | http://ybit.ath.cx/images/hexalab.png | 20:01 |
| any54251606 | ybit, it's an abbreviated house, conservation of surface area, but reflecting heat doesn';t work worth a pee if the air is moving, which it almost always is | 20:04 |
| any54251606 | i think it's benefits are it's airtight right at the insulation surface,and the foam is closed cell, more than anything else | 20:11 |
| any54251606 | you can get sheets of osb done the same way, altho osb itslef isn't airtight; they put two sheets of osb in the form, and shoot expanding foam tween them, you get heavier structural 3 to 6 inch thick sections of that foamboard | 20:13 |
| ybit | that's what vinay suggested i build the hexayurt out of | 20:13 |
| any54251606 | paint the osb, seal the stuff with the paint, and it's entirely a scaled up version of that | 20:13 |
| ybit | there are already these types of hexayurts | 20:14 |
| any54251606 | ok, but anyone can put anew door into your space by cutting the tape | 20:14 |
| any54251606 | you going for cheap? or durable? | 20:14 |
| ybit | can i has both? | 20:15 |
| any54251606 | not if the entire house is only foam | 20:16 |
| ybit | it's osb or plywood | 20:16 |
| any54251606 | all i saw was foil-covered foam | 20:16 |
| ybit | http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/other/plywood-hexayurt- | 20:16 |
| ybit | argh | 20:17 |
| any54251606 | ? | 20:17 |
| ybit | fourth video down from hexayurt.com | 20:18 |
| ybit | s/from/on | 20:18 |
| any54251606 | well, i have no audio, and the movie is choppy | 20:22 |
| any54251606 | keep in mind, osb is not airtight or watertight | 20:23 |
| any54251606 | it's draft, and will not keep rain out | 20:24 |
| ybit | http://blip.tv/file/get/Hexayurt-PlywoodHexayurtConstructionDetails992.MP4 | 20:24 |
| any54251606 | drfty | 20:24 |
| ybit | http://blip.tv/file/2596816/ | 20:24 |
| any54251606 | if it gets wet, it warps to no end | 20:24 |
| any54251606 | in some places, it is not rated for any structural strngth at all | 20:25 |
| any54251606 | and it will outgas glue fumes for a year or more | 20:25 |
| ybit | another plywood hex.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fwlIxWomyw | 20:26 |
| ybit | 20:24 < any54251606> it's draft, and will not keep rain out | 20:26 |
| any54251606 | http://a7.video2.blip.tv/0630002046593/Hexayurt-PlywoodHexayurtConstructionDetails992.MP4?bri=9.7&brs=4233 is the same one you gave earlier | 20:26 |
| drazak | aygh | 20:26 |
| ybit | re:^ it's water-proof | 20:26 |
| any54251606 | ybit, i have seen water run right thru the stuff | 20:27 |
| ybit | i think it has waterproof paint | 20:27 |
| ybit | i _think_ that's why it's called waterproof | 20:27 |
| ybit | drazak: get back to work! :P | 20:28 |
| any54251606 | i dunno...... the guy smoking the joint, vs the guy who can't operate the drill/driver on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fwlIxWomyw doesn't inspire me | 20:28 |
| ybit | haha, will view it when the download is complete | 20:29 |
| any54251606 | tv here is now replaying entire evenings of shows,, tonite is a rerun of last nite | 20:29 |
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| any54251606 | re: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fwlIxWomyw ; get some power tools, seriously | 20:32 |
| any54251606 | it's not efficient to use labor and feed laborers for days, when one saw will do all the work in one hour | 20:33 |
| any54251606 | he's doing a event to teach how to make a yurt and live on $1000's yr in the woods? | 20:34 |
| any54251606 | i've lived in a communte before, this isn't working for me | 20:35 |
| any54251606 | commune | 20:35 |
| drazak | ybit: I'm home | 20:35 |
| drazak | ybit: I don't o back to the lab until monday | 20:35 |
| ybit | on columbus day, blasphemy! | 20:35 |
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| ybit | lol, i see what you mean about the need for power tools | 20:42 |
| ybit | it's almost unbearable watching this | 20:43 |
| genehacker | http://www.intellectualpornography.com/2009/10/one-oclock-daily---a-prize-for-layman-science.html | 20:45 |
| genehacker | whoa | 20:45 |
| genehacker | I stay off of IRC for one day and miss a whole bunch? | 20:45 |
| drazak | ybit: psh | 20:46 |
| drazak | ybit: there's going to be like, everyone that normally comes in | 20:46 |
| ybit | http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=527 :: CEB, Hexacube, and Hexayurt: Side by Side | 20:48 |
| ybit | genehacker: what'd you miss? | 20:48 |
| genehacker | got some emails from fenn and kanzure | 20:48 |
| genehacker | fenn, so you have something that can hover, now how do you land it and control which direction it's going it? | 20:49 |
| genehacker | also let's not forget about what would happen if the package was loosely secured in something spinning like that | 20:51 |
| genehacker | it'd wobble like crazy | 20:52 |
| genehacker | it's a cool design though | 20:56 |
| genehacker | reminds me of this: | 20:56 |
| any54251606 | ybit, how much floor area can you cover with a hexayurt, with 4ft tall walls, using 7 sheets of 4x8 plywood/osb ? | 21:08 |
| genehacker | dang can't find it | 21:10 |
| any54251606 | ybit, for a square: 4 sheets to make the walls, 2 to make a roof, 1 to raise the roof 2ft on one edge and make it slope | 21:12 |
| any54251606 | (the rest of the 2ft x8ft piece is made into two wedges to fill in undr the sloping sides of the roof) | 21:12 |
| any54251606 | so with 2 cuts, you get a 8x8 with a peak ceiling of 6ft, with 7sheets, which you can layer up 4x8 insulation against inside, and only one oddball multi-angled cut is needed, and it's only one cut off 90degrees | 21:14 |
| any54251606 | a hexayurt with 4x4 wall panels has many odd lumber cuts, has a floor space of 41sqft (vs 64 for the 4sided box) | 21:16 |
| any54251606 | if you want more room, make a round house, big enough diam that you don't need to cut the exterior sheathing, just bend around and screw into place, subdivide as needed | 21:19 |
| any54251606 | last thing you need, trust me, is a comforter/blanket falling off the bed at night against a hot wood heater | 21:19 |
| any54251606 | put the wood burner in the other room | 21:20 |
| genehacker | ah here it is | 21:23 |
| genehacker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Triebfluegeljaeger | 21:23 |
| genehacker | hmmm.... now I wonder would a water gun with a 3000 psi jet be safe? | 21:50 |
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| genehacker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuZQpWo9Qhs&feature=related | 23:36 |
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