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| ybit | katsmeow: what do you do for fun outside of internetverse | 00:03 |
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| katsmeow | not a hell of a lot | 00:04 |
| katsmeow | no place to go, nothing to do, no one to do it with | 00:05 |
| katsmeow | what about you? | 00:10 |
| ybit | In the meantime, a Lego-built autonomous robot able to follow a pre-set track and assemble an exact copy of itself, starting from four externally-provided components, was demonstrated experimentally in 2003 | 00:14 |
| ybit | http://www.molecularassembler.com/KSRM/3.23.4.htm | 00:14 |
| katsmeow | what functional use was it to anyone tho? | 00:15 |
| ybit | katsmeow: had asked earlier a few of the people here | 00:15 |
| ybit | 10:42 < ybit> hehe, seriously, i feel like i'm unproductive by just sitting at the computer 24hr/day, my mind starts to wonder and i lose motivation to do what it is that i started out to do | 00:15 |
| ybit | 10:43 < ybit> so i thought that maybe splitting my day into chunks would help, 3hrs of productive work, 1.5 hours of playtime away from the computer, repeat 3x | 00:15 |
| ybit | fenn suggested tai chi | 00:15 |
| ybit | from there i found systema, man that's intense | 00:15 |
| ybit | i'm not really sure what to do atm, at some point i just decided that life was a game and to do whatever allows for creativity, relaxation, focus or whatever it is i want when afk | 00:16 |
| katsmeow | i don't find incentive for self-improvement, when i know anything i do won't make me any more acceptable to society | 00:17 |
| * ybit needs to sleep unfortunately, but this is interesting to me | 00:18 | |
| ybit | gn katsmeow | 00:18 |
| katsmeow | see, even mentioning stuff non-specifically drives humans away | 00:19 |
| katsmeow | gnite | 00:19 |
| bkero | Hrm? | 00:40 |
| bkero | katsmeow: You just have to abandon the craving for acceptance from general society. :) | 00:40 |
| katsmeow | it's also a craving for society to stop putting me down, like the legal system assigning all my property rights to a dog just because i have trouble standing up | 00:42 |
| katsmeow | humans coming up to me and yelling really slowly in my face how brave i must be to come to Walmart | 00:45 |
| katsmeow | humans telling me repeatedly how heavy a 2lb package is, and i must need assistance to move it | 00:46 |
| katsmeow | humans telling others that i cannot read or write | 00:46 |
| katsmeow | and if i whip out somemthing to read, they say someone else read it to me and i memorised the entire 1200 page book | 00:47 |
| katsmeow | humans saying i cannot work on the car/truck,, specifically in one case saying i cold not replace the truck rear springs because i could not have stood up to do it, never considering if anyone did stand up, they couldn't reach up under the vehicle to the springs | 00:48 |
| bkero | A lot of people struggle with the 'what a courageous girl', and don't stop to think about her desire for independence. | 00:54 |
| bkero | I dated a girl with really bad arthritis and mangled hands/feet for a few years. She's still one of the strongest people I know. | 00:55 |
| katsmeow | "desire" for independance? i AM independent! no one will have anything to do with me! | 00:55 |
| bkero | But they want to help you all the time it seems. | 00:55 |
| bkero | some of them don't get why you would consider that a bad thing | 00:55 |
| katsmeow | yea,, and i don't kow why they intrude, or then why i cannot do things like put up solar panels or have a garden on my own property | 00:56 |
| katsmeow | i cannot collect rain water intentionally, to i use water from the "rain measuring devices" to water the house plants | 00:57 |
| katsmeow | i need human rights, i do not need to be forced to accept help opening a door | 00:58 |
| katsmeow | i do not need, want, accept, require, request, help, assistance, aid, encouragement in any way regarding doors | 00:59 |
| katsmeow | yet humans believe they must cram that down my throat | 01:00 |
| bkero | Not all humans are like that. | 01:03 |
| katsmeow | uh huh | 01:04 |
| bkero | Do the ones that know you still behave like that? | 01:04 |
| katsmeow | most do, they cannot break their programming (upbringing) | 01:05 |
| bkero | Here we challenge our programming all the time. | 01:05 |
| katsmeow | there's 3 that don't, two are in other states, two have spouses that cannot accept me, | 01:05 |
| bkero | It's what's nice about living in a progressive section. | 01:05 |
| katsmeow | progressive section of what? | 01:06 |
| bkero | Progressive...city | 01:06 |
| katsmeow | o | 01:06 |
| katsmeow | without a job, i cannot live in a city | 01:06 |
| bkero | Sounds like you have a shitty situation | 01:07 |
| katsmeow | explains my shitty demeanor | 01:07 |
| katsmeow | i gave up "rising above it", all that did was give me ulcers, it accomplished nothing | 01:08 |
| bkero | I suppose I should be lucky that people just leave me alone. I'm a very private person. | 01:08 |
| katsmeow | i gave up on self improvement, i got spat on for being "uppity, thinking you're better than us", and got me nothing good | 01:08 |
| katsmeow | well, if i canget the boat in the water, perhaps leave them 500 miles in my wake, i'llbe better off, i dunno yet | 01:09 |
| bkero | You'll have to find something to do on the other side | 01:11 |
| katsmeow | other side? of? | 01:12 |
| bkero | Whatever's 500 miles away. | 01:12 |
| katsmeow | ah, lack of humans telling me i cannot grow tomatoes, or generate my own power again, or use an elevator, or read and write | 01:13 |
| bkero | Oh, seasteading | 01:13 |
| katsmeow | that works too | 01:13 |
| katsmeow | altho, tomatoes don't grow in an ocean, and solar/wind isn't ocean related either | 01:13 |
| katsmeow | elevators aren't all so great in salt water to get from bedroom to other rooms | 01:14 |
| bkero | I fear that if you're at sea too long you'll turn in to Kevin Costner. | 01:14 |
| katsmeow | but yea,, the land is generally infested with humans | 01:14 |
| bkero | There's plenty of land in Russia where there aren't any. :) | 01:14 |
| katsmeow | other than the sex change, would that be so bad? | 01:14 |
| bkero | Not exactly arable land. | 01:14 |
| bkero | Additionally you could move to a small town, where you'd only have to tell people to fuck off once, since they'd all know you. | 01:15 |
| katsmeow | this place is said to be small, yet for 20 years i been refusing help and asking to be hired | 01:15 |
| bkero | Nobody will give you a job? :/ | 01:16 |
| katsmeow | correct | 01:16 |
| bkero | Shitty | 01:17 |
| bkero | Oh man, I bothered to read the front page of conservapedia. What a horrible mistake. | 01:29 |
| katsmeow | Conservapedia Launches Effort to Translate the Bible Into ...? | 01:30 |
| bkero | They want to take all the liberal out of the bible | 01:32 |
| bkero | They say "liberal" 35 times on the front page. | 01:32 |
| katsmeow | i think i won't bother going there | 01:34 |
| bkero | It will make you more upset than you already are. Much more upset. | 01:36 |
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| kanzure | "The new Reality Mining dataset is now available. This data consists of 220,000 hours of continuous movement and communication involving 106 subjects over 9 months, coupled with new survey data ranging from friendships and workplace satisfaction to recent illness and local hangouts. For more information go to http://reality.media.mit.edu or email reality@media.mit.edu. " | 02:58 |
| kanzure | also a CPAN data analysis competition? | 02:59 |
| fenn | that shit's scary | 03:11 |
| fenn | remind me why i carry a cellphone again? | 03:11 |
| kanzure | "workplace satisfaction" | 03:14 |
| kanzure | oh you mean none? | 03:14 |
| fenn | just look at the titles: http://reality.media.mit.edu/publications.php | 03:18 |
| fenn | and think about who is doing the analyzing | 03:19 |
| fenn | hint: not you or me, or anyone we know | 03:19 |
| fenn | (i hope) | 03:19 |
| fenn | having just read "little brother" perhaps it's more obvious to me | 03:20 |
| fenn | the guy gave a talk about it a couple years ago.. basically they can figure everything out about you simply by doing primitive accelerometer analysis on your phone | 03:21 |
| fenn | who you know, what your job is, who/what you like and dislike | 03:22 |
| fenn | where you go every day and when.. but that's redundant with the GPS sensors | 03:23 |
| fenn | http://reality.media.mit.edu/dyads.php | 03:23 |
| fenn | just using bluetooth proximity information, "Workplace colleagues, outside friends, and people within a user's circle of friends were identified with over 90% accuracy" | 03:25 |
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| wrldpc2 | http://nixweb.com/you-are-here/ | 05:59 |
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| ybit | .com addresses: partsfabr, partfabr, humcie, adfabr, partmates.com, p2pdevs.com, adfablab, numables, numnums, adfaba | 07:47 |
| ybit | (all available) | 07:56 |
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| katsmeow-afk | humcie? | 08:02 |
| katsmeow-afk | wierd! no rain scheduled for today! | 08:03 |
| ybit | an equivalent to diysci in spanish :P since jason bobe has .com | 08:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | o | 08:12 |
| * ybit has always liked rainy weather, but it's really been an impendiment here recently | 08:12 | |
| katsmeow-afk | for real | 08:15 |
| katsmeow-afk | i tell people we have been getting a hurricane's worth every week here, yesterday alone is was 3-5 inches | 08:16 |
| katsmeow-afk | and there'sa re-do for tonite(!?) and another Thursday | 08:16 |
| katsmeow-afk | that's *months* worth of rain in one week | 08:17 |
| katsmeow-afk | is there a Titan's nick for innovation? | 08:20 |
| katsmeow-afk | or are they just a bunch of destructive bullies? | 08:21 |
| * katsmeow-afk drops the PalPal user agreement into the Ai drive to test the parser against | 08:26 | |
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| kanzure | fenn: could you trace wxDisplay.py SaveAsImage for me? i've been trying and can only get to NISViewer and i get lost | 10:09 |
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| kanzure | http://timeship.org/project.html | 10:40 |
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| genehacker | heard about that | 10:51 |
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| kanzure | who wrote the paper on parts closure (re: self replication) recently, and why don't i know them? | 11:06 |
| genehacker | whoa | 11:08 |
| genehacker | what paper? | 11:08 |
| genehacker | it's not on openmanufacturing, diybio, or diyh+ | 11:11 |
| genehacker | what paper are you refering to? | 11:12 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/Towards%20cyclic%20fabrication%20systems%20for%20modular%20robotics%20and%20rapid%20manufacturing.pdf | 11:13 |
| kanzure | Towards cyclic fabrication systems for modular robotics and rapid manufacturing | 11:13 |
| genehacker | Matt Moses | 11:15 |
| genehacker | I thought you already read that paper? | 11:15 |
| genehacker | lets not forget Hiroshi Yamaguchi, and Gregory S. Chirikjian | 11:16 |
| genehacker | Chirikjian has done work on lego self-replicators | 11:16 |
| genehacker | how do you not know them? | 11:16 |
| genehacker | didn't you read KSRM? | 11:16 |
| genehacker | anyway the system proposed in that paper can make just about anything if combined with investment casting or plaster based molds and a foundary | 11:18 |
| genehacker | are you ok? | 11:18 |
| kanzure | yes i'm fine | 11:23 |
| kanzure | no i don't recognize those names | 11:23 |
| kanzure | i've been meaning to grab all of the papers referenced in KSRM, but i haven't got around to it | 11:24 |
| genehacker | http://www.molecularassembler.com/KSRM/3.18.htm | 11:30 |
| genehacker | http://www.molecularassembler.com/KSRM/3.23.htm | 11:31 |
| genehacker | why did you all of a sudden get interested in that paper | 11:31 |
| kanzure | it has been on my mind for a while and i realized that i didn't know who wrote it | 11:32 |
| genehacker | do you think that paper offers a system worth pursuing for total replication? | 11:35 |
| genehacker | I think it does | 11:35 |
| kanzure | i think it might be worth writing up their dc motor as a skdb package | 11:35 |
| genehacker | ok got it | 11:36 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/dc-brush-motor-cyclic-fabrication-system.png | 11:36 |
| genehacker | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:802 | 11:36 |
| genehacker | document away | 11:36 |
| kanzure | oops wrong link | 11:36 |
| kanzure | ok should be fixed | 11:37 |
| genehacker | anyway the point is this system produces wax forms | 11:37 |
| genehacker | wax forms can be used to do investment casting | 11:37 |
| genehacker | investment casting can be used to make metal parts | 11:37 |
| kanzure | https://custer.lcsr.jhu.edu/Publications#Robotic_Self-Replication hm | 11:37 |
| kanzure | genehacker: if you want to help out skdb, it would be cool if you could convert the .stl and .dxf files to .step or .iges | 11:38 |
| kanzure | genehacker: when you publish a thing on thingiverse, do you upload the screenshots that you see on the left? | 11:39 |
| genehacker | no | 11:39 |
| genehacker | it does that automatically | 11:39 |
| genehacker | the green screenshots are generated automatically | 11:40 |
| kanzure | i guess it's easier to generate screenshots of stl files? | 11:40 |
| genehacker | the color pictures of the finished item are what you upload | 11:40 |
| genehacker | I guess | 11:40 |
| kanzure | well opencascade can convert stuff to stl i guess | 11:40 |
| kanzure | but then how are they generating the screenshots? | 11:40 |
| genehacker | automatically of course | 11:40 |
| genehacker | with software that generates screenshots of .stl files, .dxf files, and other files thingiverse recognizes | 11:41 |
| genehacker | go into a cad program, make something, and upload it to thingiverse and see for yourself | 11:41 |
| kanzure | that doesn't tell me how they do it | 11:42 |
| genehacker | you could ask them | 11:43 |
| kanzure | zack isn't very friendly | 11:43 |
| fenn | 'convert stl or dxf to step or iges' is a terrible idea | 11:44 |
| genehacker | hmmm... | 11:44 |
| genehacker | I should probably upload the .dwg file for a theojansen walker to skdb | 11:45 |
| kanzure | i don't know what to do with a .dwg file | 11:45 |
| kanzure | does anyone know a good source of steady state equations for different mechanical components? | 11:47 |
| genehacker | I don't think there are any | 11:48 |
| genehacker | what sort of components? | 11:48 |
| genehacker | levers, gears, wheels, ramps, wedges? | 11:48 |
| genehacker | levers and gears pretty much use the same equation | 11:49 |
| kanzure | basic machine elements and yes, levers, gears, wheels, ramps, wedges, screws, bolts, washers, nuts, other crap | 11:51 |
| genehacker | http://wikis.controltheorypro.com/index.php?title=Mechanical_Component_Modeling | 11:51 |
| genehacker | what sort of information do you want to know | 11:52 |
| genehacker | I could derive it | 11:53 |
| kanzure | i would like some steady state equations for the inputs and outputs of maybe 10 basic components | 11:55 |
| genehacker | what do you mean by steady state? | 11:56 |
| kanzure | like a spring, motor, screw/bolt/fastener of your choice, basic electronic elements (capacitor, resistor, transformer, battery, resistor), hydraulic element of your choice | 11:56 |
| genehacker | a motor outputs torque | 11:57 |
| genehacker | and power | 11:57 |
| kanzure | yes i know | 11:58 |
| genehacker | I can't think of the inputs and outputs of a screw/bolt fastener | 11:58 |
| genehacker | force I guess? | 11:58 |
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| genehacker | F1*A1=F2*A2? | 11:59 |
| kanzure | "For example: The flow of fluid through a tube, or electricity through a network, could be in a steady state because there is a constant flow of fluid, or electricity. Conversely, a tank which is being drained or filled with fluid would be an example of a system in transient state, because the volume of fluid contained in it changes with time." | 12:00 |
| kanzure | genehacker: yes it would be either force or pressure, fenn modeled it as a pressure with the screw in skdb | 12:00 |
| kanzure | http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/packages/screw/screw.py | 12:00 |
| kanzure | steady state is a more general situation than dynamic equilibrium | 12:00 |
| genehacker | ok | 12:01 |
| kanzure | "In a steady state the rate of inputs is equal to the rate of outputs so that the composition of the system is unchanging in time. For example, a lake is in a steady state when water flows in at the same rate as water flows out." | 12:01 |
| genehacker | then levers, gears, and wheels use L1*F1=L2*F2 | 12:01 |
| kanzure | please define your variables | 12:02 |
| genehacker | lenght1*force1=length2*Force2 | 12:02 |
| genehacker | or torque= length*force | 12:03 |
| genehacker | you really need to define what inputs and outputs you want | 12:03 |
| genehacker | energy, mass, heat, donuts? | 12:05 |
| genehacker | and force | 12:06 |
| kanzure | steady state behavior of a dc motor: torque = k*i - constant torque (also known as the the sliding friction) where i = (constant DC voltage - (k * angular_rotation)) / lumped_resistance where k is the motor constant | 12:07 |
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| kanzure | maximum power output of moses' dc motor: 1/(4R) * (voltage - (constant torque or sliding friction)*R / k) where R is the radius | 12:09 |
| genehacker | ok | 12:09 |
| kanzure | what do you call these equations? | 12:09 |
| genehacker | I don't know | 12:10 |
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| genehacker | I can give you some thermodynamics steady state equations | 12:12 |
| kanzure | isn't this what "statics" is all about? | 12:12 |
| genehacker | no | 12:12 |
| genehacker | this isn't what statics is all about | 12:12 |
| kanzure | "Statics is the branch of mechanics concerned with the analysis of loads (force, torque/moment) on physical systems in static equilibrium, that is, in a state where the relative positions of subsystems do not vary over time, or where components and structures are at a constant velocity." | 12:12 |
| kanzure | sounds like it | 12:12 |
| kanzure | no moving parts | 12:12 |
| genehacker | yeah | 12:12 |
| kanzure | loads of various types (like a load on the dc motor) | 12:13 |
| genehacker | you want to borrow my statics book? | 12:13 |
| kanzure | no | 12:13 |
| genehacker | all you need to know is sum of all forces = 0 | 12:13 |
| kanzure | heh | 12:14 |
| genehacker | really thats all there is | 12:14 |
| genehacker | for other stuff mass in= mass out | 12:15 |
| genehacker | energy in = energy out | 12:15 |
| genehacker | also a force*distance= work | 12:17 |
| genehacker | which is energy | 12:17 |
| kanzure | " * Screw: A screw is essentially an inclined plane wrapped around a cylinder. The run over the rise of this inclined plane is the mechanical advantage of a screw.[1] | 12:20 |
| kanzure | heh never thought of it like that | 12:20 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_(engineering) | 12:21 |
| kanzure | guess that's only useful for calculating mechanical advantage | 12:21 |
| kanzure | why is this so hard to find? isn't this simple? | 12:23 |
| kanzure | basically this is just mesh analysis (nodal analysis) and i need linear equations that represent the components.. but why is it so hard to find a list of linear equations for simple machines? | 12:25 |
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| genehacker2 | you need torque and rotation rate to determine power | 12:35 |
| fenn | campbell always called the equations 'behavior' dunno if that helps | 12:35 |
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| genehacker2 | ok so what do you guys want anyway? | 12:37 |
| genehacker2 | what do you want to use the equations you are looking for for? | 12:41 |
| genehacker2 | do you want this | 12:43 |
| genehacker2 | for a wheel | 12:43 |
| genehacker2 | force out= torque*radius | 12:46 |
| genehacker2 | though force also depends on friction which is normal force times friction coefficient | 12:50 |
| kanzure | i don't understand how people are supposed to learn this in class if it's impossible to find on the net | 13:03 |
| kanzure | this doesn't look terrible: http://school.mech.uwa.edu.au/~dwright/DANotes/springs/intro/intro.html#characteristic | 13:09 |
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| kanzure | thread systems: whitworth, sellers, british standard pipe (BSP) | 13:18 |
| fenn | god what kind of books are you reading? prehistoric pipe threads for dummies? | 13:28 |
| kanzure | mathematical models of translational and rotational mechanical elements: http://www.scribd.com/document_downloads/7291525?extension=pdf | 13:31 |
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| kanzure | http://www.control-systems-principles.co.uk/ebooks/Introduction-to-Physical-System-Modelling.pdf | 13:45 |
| kanzure | so far this book rocks :) | 13:45 |
| kanzure | robert h bishop at ut austin has apparently written "the mechatronics handbook".. maybe that's worth looking into | 13:50 |
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| ybit | 08:03 < katsmeow-afk> wierd! no rain scheduled for today! | 16:15 |
| ybit | you sure about that | 16:15 |
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| katsmeow-afk | ybit, there is for tonite | 18:03 |
| katsmeow-afk | oh, ybit has rain right now | 18:04 |
| katsmeow-afk | no rain here atm, maybe not for acouplehrs | 18:05 |
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| kanzure | other people have been struggling to render images with opencascade (without using X11 buffers) forever now too: http://www.opencascade.org/org/forum/thread_971/ | 18:27 |
| kanzure | i guess i'll use opencascade to convert a model to stl, then use an stl viewer that actually works (not sure which) | 18:27 |
| kanzure | http://vis.lbl.gov/staff/jshalf/VTK/vtkOffScreen/ | 18:30 |
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| ybit | holy crap: | 19:19 |
| ybit | then i found this:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/multimachine/ The MultiMachine is an accurate all-purpose machine tool that can be used as a metal or wood lathe, end mill, horizontal mill, drill press, wood or metal saw or sander, surface grinder and sheet metal "spinner". It can be built by a semi-skilled mechanic using just common hand tools. For machine construction, electricity can be replaced with "elbow grease" and all the necessary material can | 19:19 |
| ybit | ty kanzure for forwarding that | 19:19 |
| ybit | all from discarded vehicle parts, perfect :D | 19:20 |
| * ybit needs to find a spot to put the new car :) | 19:22 | |
| ybit | thinking i'll use garage at this other house if the bossman doesn't allow me to park it at one of the garages at work | 19:23 |
| kanzure | multimachine is old news | 19:33 |
| kanzure | i thought you knew about it? | 19:33 |
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| genehacker2 | WAAAAY old news | 20:04 |
| genehacker2 | I don't think anyone's built one either | 20:04 |
| genehacker2 | whats up with that website you posted on building solar stuff on the moon using HUMANS? | 20:05 |
| genehacker2 | the moonminer page | 20:05 |
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| genehacker2 | casting in air? | 20:06 |
| genehacker2 | they suggest casting in air on the moon | 20:06 |
| genehacker2 | which frankly makes no sense | 20:07 |
| genehacker2 | because vacuum casting is what you use to make great parts | 20:07 |
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| kanzure | i heart blender -b -P | 20:37 |
| kanzure | huh. http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:Py/Scripts/Manual/Import/LDRAW | 20:57 |
| ybit | nope, sure didn't know about it. i see a pic of it on the group's mailing list | 21:12 |
| ybit | grr, real life called | 21:13 |
| * ybit doesn't understand center star alabama is such a bad place to set up shop. | 21:14 | |
| ybit | what would be missing exactly? huntsville is an hour away, bham, 2, nashville 2, atl is 4 | 21:16 |
| ybit | two airports (huntsville, muscle shoals) are 45 mins away and a smaller one just down the road | 21:16 |
| ybit | down the road being ~.3miles | 21:17 |
| ybit | it's defintely going to be 17 acres, the rest is being negotiated still, which could bring the lot up to 37acres. not bad for a little research center | 21:18 |
| drazak | Fuck ELISAs | 21:18 |
| ybit | plus electric transportation (got my car today) | 21:18 |
| ybit | hi drazak | 21:19 |
| drazak | yo | 21:19 |
| ybit | anywho, converting the car then a wrangler | 21:20 |
| ybit | and huntsville isn't a bad place as strages_ can attest to | 21:22 |
| ybit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cummings_Research_Park <- the research park there | 21:23 |
| ybit | "Cummings Research Park, located primarily in the city of Huntsville, Alabama is the second largest research park in the United States,[citation needed] and the fourth largest in the world." | 21:23 |
| ybit | that inflatable, satellite? huntsville. (http://www.gatr.com/) | 21:23 |
| ybit | -, | 21:23 |
| ybit | not to mention nasa (and restone, i know genehacker2 doesn't care for this one) | 21:25 |
| ybit | oh wait, it was the rocket genehacker2 didn't care for | 21:26 |
| ybit | s/restone/redstone | 21:26 |
| ybit | huh, there's a Lab-on-a-Chip Applications Development Lab at the Marshall Space Flight Center (nasa) | 21:28 |
| ybit | sure nasa isn't very exciting, but the point is that there are interesting people and it's not too bad of a place, and a few benefits | 21:29 |
| ybit | plus there's the "The Advanced Technology Robotics Research and Development Complex" being built in decatur (again right down the road on the way to huntsville) | 21:31 |
| ybit | http://robotics.tmcnet.com/topics/robotics/articles/30651-robotics-complex-rise-northern-alabama.htm | 21:31 |
| ybit | and my spill for the area is for the time complete. so why not a small city (with a flippin cool name)? :) | 21:32 |
| ybit | shorter and more concise article: http://smart-machines.blogspot.com/2008/06/new-alabama-robotics-research-and.html | 21:34 |
| kanzure | rawr stl2pov didn't work >:( | 22:00 |
| kanzure | grr. i need an stl renderer that does not require X11 | 22:00 |
| ybit | As I like=2 0to say, | 22:00 |
| ybit | in the 19th Century, those who wanted the best life had to offer | 22:00 |
| ybit | stayed in Boston and Baltimore (nothing particular against them except | 22:00 |
| ybit | that they start with the same letter.) Those to whom it was more | 22:00 |
| ybit | important to be able to start life over fresh, where you could get in | 22:00 |
| ybit | on the ground floor and rise to the top, those ready to sacrifice in | 22:00 |
| ybit | exchange for a life that was really worth living, well they were the | 22:00 |
| ybit | ones whom moved west. | 22:00 |
| ybit | """ | 22:01 |
| ybit | s/west/east to alabama :P | 22:01 |
| * ybit pleads once more. at least consider it as a last resort, i am. | 22:01 | |
| kanzure | are you trying to get me to move to alabama? | 22:02 |
| kanzure | i think i need a few years on one of the coasts first | 22:02 |
| ybit | this moon society mailing lists (& their ilrp) are right along the lines of my own thinking, thanks for linking kanzure | 22:06 |
| kanzure | ybit: there are many others.. you should see artemis, l5, etc. | 22:09 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/notes.html | 22:10 |
| kanzure | those links are from 2006 so no guarantees | 22:10 |
| * ybit has posted on artemis once before, not sure what you mean by l5 though (luf?) | 22:21 | |
| ybit | i see | 22:23 |
| ybit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L5_Society | 22:23 |
| genehacker2 | why are you advertising alabama ybit? | 22:58 |
| ybit | because i get 50 centers per click through ;) | 22:59 |
| ybit | cents, 'bout to pass out thanks to a certain sleeping pill | 23:00 |
| ybit | i'm just trying to get as many of us like-minded individuals within close proximity | 23:02 |
| ybit | ask questions if have any, time for sleep | 23:03 |
| genehacker2 | you are reprimanded 5 triffids for indulging in sleep | 23:05 |
| bkero | kanzure: Come to this coast. It's better out here. | 23:38 |
| bkero | My senior design project is a in interface for a 400-node cluster for the campus's Center for Genome Research and Biocomputing. | 23:43 |
| genehacker2 | kanzure did you ever figure the equations you needed? | 23:56 |
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