2009-10-19.log

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kanzurehttp://arxiv.org/abs/0910.2899 bacteria ratchet motor09:28
kardan|ybit kanzure we would like to get feedback for https://oshw.0xb5.org/ (there has no process since last year, but it will start soon)09:35
kanzureit looks like there's nothing there09:42
kanzurewhy not use skdb as the backend? we already have packages that list out dependencies and everything09:42
kanzurehttp://groups.google.com/group/octopart-api09:45
kanzurerauchwerk says octopart came out with a new api recently09:47
kanzurenot sure what they've added though09:47
kardan|ok, will check that out later09:49
kanzuredon't bother09:50
kanzurejust mentioning it for the others in the channel09:50
kanzurei do think though that you're reinventing the wheel.. could you check out web.py in skdb and see what you think?09:50
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kanzurehello Phreedom 10:20
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Phreedom:)10:28
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kanzurehttp://www.thistothat.com/ "glue advice"11:01
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kanzurewhile i was disconnected i went through my "8bit music collection" and extracted some of the not-sucky tracks: http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/music/8bit12:28
kanzureanamanaguchi was odd12:29
Trooemhahaha i gotta take a look at your archive man. i'll send over that few TB hdd when i get back to Canada.12:49
Trooemi'll keep them files in my pc, learn from your archive if i can understand it.....12:50
kanzure:)12:50
kanzureybit sent me an hdd and i have it sitting here at the moment12:50
kanzurei need to dump some content12:50
Trooemgreat i want to see everything - up to date on - technology involving longevity, transhumanism, etc. wonder how far we got so far...12:52
Trooem:))))))))))))))))))))12:52
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kanzurewtf i think solidworks is pgp encrypting the portion of their .sldprt files that contains the actual CAD data14:48
kanzure(`file` claims it's pgp at least)14:48
kanzurenot sure what this is:14:52
kanzuredisplay_lists.zip: VAX-order 68k Blit mpx/mux executable14:52
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ybitkardan|: who is we?15:13
kardan|hi, a group in berlin doing mostly open webdevelopment (crabgrass) and self organized project management (redmine), funding, foodcoop networking, self organized lerning / skill networks (tsolife.org)15:15
ybitkanzure: where's fenn? you didn't shove him out of the vehicle while driving to the new crib... did you?15:16
ybit"organized project management (redmine)" what's with you europeans and eurasians liking ruby/redmine ;) Phreedom wanted to use that for freefab (http://freefab.org)15:17
kardan|Octopart is a search engine for electronic parts. <= is that what you are using?15:17
katsmeow-afkocto sucks15:18
kardan|programmed perl and php before rails and its a lot more convenient15:18
Phreedomybit: maybe because it's good? :P15:18
kardan|freefab is down15:19
Phreedomyeah I know :)15:19
Phreedomuntil tomorrow15:19
kardan|fine then15:19
kardan|did you get any news about the wave hype?15:20
ybiteh?15:20
Phreedomeither way it's not a public site yet15:20
Phreedomkardan|: we'll care about it when it's available ;)15:20
ybitit's mostly Phreedom posting random pictures of progress15:20
kardan|everybody wants a account and test the new revolutionizing concept of combining mail and gobby bla bla15:20
ybitatm15:20
Phreedomit's mostly me testing my website setup :)15:21
ybitkardan|: i wasn't too impressed with it15:21
* ybit has an account15:21
Phreedomkardan|: actually a number of software projects(eg inkscape) tried using xmpp for collaborative editing before15:22
ybitkanzure has an account as well, but he never responds to my 'waves' ;)15:22
kardan|we had a wave meeting berlin these days.15:22
kardan|and wrote an implementation for rails to access waves15:22
kardan|deep alpha, just two days of work15:23
kardan|katsmeow-afk: is the any alternative and why dont you like it?15:23
ybitlooks like i'll be volunteering at the h+ convention15:27
katsmeow-afkkardan, it seems to find the most expensive parts, it solicits retailers to advertise their stock as search results15:28
ybitthat saved me a little money, thanks kanzure for bring that to my attention15:28
kanzureybit: fenn is on vacation15:33
* katsmeow-afk is still waiting on that plutonium15:35
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ybitkanzure: if you and fenn, decide to go the hotel route, the preferred hotel only costs $64 per night, split between 4 of us, ~$17/night15:58
ybitcomma splicing ftw15:58
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kanzureybit: how many people?16:08
kanzurenevermind. yeah, we're game for that16:08
kanzureplease send information16:09
ybitwaiting to hear back from alex on details16:20
ybit"Here's the hotel: Candlewood Suites Irvine East, tel 949-598-9105, 3 S16:32
ybitPointe Dr, Lake Forest, CA 92630. The deal is through hotels.com only and is16:32
ybitnon-refundable."16:32
drazakI have to go to a funeral tomorrow16:33
ybitdrazak: who died?16:34
drazakfriend of mine, suicide16:35
ybiteek, sorry to hear that, i've been through the same situation, i know how hard it can be16:38
drazakI mean16:38
drazakI wasn't best friends with him16:38
drazakbut we hung out and stuff16:38
ybitgotcha16:39
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ybitso it's $67, not $64, and all you have to do is go to hotels.com, enter the day, look for the hotel and you'll see the price. i was thinking of reserving it to check in on the fourth, and check-out on the sixth, because i was planning on getting there one day early to go exploring16:40
drazakwhat can I do that's tasteful for him, he was a marxist16:41
ybit..and i can pay for the one extra day if no one else plans on coming that day16:41
ybitdrazak: continue living is one thing16:41
drazakwell yeah16:41
ybitkanzure ^16:42
kanzureybit: i don't know when i need to show up.16:43
kanzurethey haven't told me much16:43
ybitdrazak: i really don't know what to tell you, when my girlfriend died two years ago (not the suicidal friend), we partied so hard that we wouldn't have to think about it, and some wrote songs for her, others liked to just talk about her16:45
drazakyeah16:46
drazakI dunno16:47
drazaktheres going to be poetry16:47
drazakI'm sure16:47
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kanzurei need a script that watches a file and makes backups each time it is changed with some pre-set interval17:40
kanzureis tail -f appropriate?17:40
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genehackerwhat happened to fenn?17:50
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ybitgenehacker: he died tragically on the way to his new apartment18:22
ybithe's, as they say, on vacation18:22
ybit(he really is on vacation, not the deathly kind)18:23
kanzurethere never was a fenn18:24
genehackerok18:26
genehackerhe's in meatspace then18:26
ybityeah18:27
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kanzuregood for a laugh: http://ticpu.net:8080/~jerome/thepiratebay.org/19:55
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genehackerheh20:19
genehackermakes me wonder about what would happen if we implemented a quantum internet20:19
genehackera quantum internet means it's physically impossible for internet data to not be private20:19
genehackerthough it could make quantum drm possible...20:24
genehackerwhich would be bad20:25
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genehackeranyone here know anything about floppy disks?21:22
genehackerI've recently stumbled upon some obsolete storage media with possibly valuable data21:23
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Noahjdd if=/dev/fd0 of=<filename> 21:45
NoahjAnd then mount -o loopfs the image or poke about with forensic tools or what have you21:45
genehackerI'll think I'll just copy the data21:46
genehackerthe data might be a book on gears possibly stored in some obsolete file format21:46
ybitgenehacker: dd is copying21:50
ybitand if you suspect the data is corrupt, you would use something like dd_rescue or dd_rhelp21:51
kanzuredoes anyone have a windows xp key?22:10
ybiti know someone who does, but it would take days to get it. there's bound to be one online somewhere22:19
ybitask in #windows22:19
ybit#22:20
ybit  File "paths.py", line 179, in get_brick22:20
ybit#22:20
ybit    brick = deepcopy(lego.parts[random.randint(0,len(lego.parts)-1)])22:20
ybit#22:20
ybitAttributeError: 'Package' object has no attribute 'parts'22:20
ybitwas that the last error, did you get any further kanzure?22:20
genehackeryes22:22
genehackersomewhere I think22:22
genehackerbut I want to keep xp22:23
genehackeris that for a winblows system22:23
genehackerthe computers in the library have winblows22:25
* ybit wonders what DFBrowser in occ is anyway22:44
ybit"This is normal, this DFBrowser think comes in upstream tarball as22:44
ybitbinary only for x86 and is not included in the Debian package, AFAICT22:44
ybitit is unused anyway. "22:44
ybithttp://step.nasa.gov/pde2009/presentations.html22:55
ybitlist of presentation abstracts from the nasa product data exchange workshop22:57
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ybitoi strages 23:08
ybitkanzure: i don't see how you and fenn have been able to get as far as you have with occ/pythonocc23:09
katsmeow-afkybit, whacha know of power transformers?23:15
ybitnot much, most transformers i've messed with weren't built to be opened 23:17
katsmeow-afkerr,, ok,, i didn't open these23:18
ybitwhat's the question?23:18
katsmeow-afki mean "use of", "characteristics of", etc23:18
katsmeow-afkhttp://designerthinking.com/transformers.html23:18
katsmeow-afkthose are pics of the secondary when driven by 120vac 60hz powerco sinewaves23:19
katsmeow-afkunloaded, and 1/2 amp load23:19
katsmeow-afk20v/div both pics23:19
katsmeow-afkhow do i fix that?23:19
* ybit wonders why DRAWEXE's display goes blank when i move the window around :-\ luckily pythonocc's interactiveviewer is still working a-okay23:19
katsmeow-afki don't require a sine wave, but those look really sick23:19
ybitkatsmeow-afk: you really know how to make a guy feel useless ;)23:21
katsmeow-afklol23:22
ybithave you asked in ##electronics23:22
katsmeow-afkheck no23:22
ybitheh, why not?23:22
katsmeow-afki always ask transformer questions in biology rooms first23:22
katsmeow-afki dunno, i thought *you*'d know23:22
ybithehe23:22
genehackerthis isn't a biology room23:23
katsmeow-afkfenn may, ifhe weren't asleep23:23
genehackerthat'd be diybio23:23
katsmeow-afkoops23:23
genehackerhe's on vacation23:23
genehackersupposedly23:23
katsmeow-afki saw23:23
ybitdead23:23
ybituntil proven otherwise23:23
ybitspeaking of fenn, kanzure did you recieve the second package today?23:23
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genehackergeez you sure send kanzure a lot of stuff23:24
ybitkatsmeow: tetracomm and speedevil might know in ##electronics23:24
ybitgenehacker: just two packages23:24
genehackeryou know according to drazak it's possible to mail genes via the postal system in letters?23:25
genehackeralso I need to download stryers from kanzure23:26
genehackerapparently it's a good book to read to know stuff23:26
katsmeowybit, asking there now23:26
katsmeowi'm being igorated23:28
katsmeowignorated23:28
ybitwait until the morning or afternoon when you see one of the two guys mentioned above, they know their electronics better than anyone i've met online23:29
katsmeowwell, this is a magnetics problem, really23:30
ybitwas using the word electronics as kind of a generic catch-all term23:31
genehackerelectrical engineers study magnetic fields23:31
genehackerhmm...23:31
genehackerneed to ask fenn about magnetic amplifiers23:31
katsmeowi have a suspicion these may have been woundup for 400hz23:33
katsmeowthey are oscillating at higher than 60hz23:33
katsmeowi have a FG503 in the mail right now to me, so i can sweep them and maybe tell more23:34
katsmeowtetracomm quit w/o saying anything23:36
katsmeowi think no one can hear me in there23:38
ybit23:29 < ybit> wait until the morning or afternoon when you see one of the two guys mentioned above,23:40
katsmeow[23:40] <katsmeow> i think no one can hear me in there23:40
* ybit is off to read and then sleep23:40
ybitkatsmeow: i'll think about it some tomorrow when i'm sitting at work doing something repetitive and jamming to electronic trance23:43
katsmeowk23:44

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