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drazak | ok, using a motor to generate electricity, how do I get the most volts? with speed or with acceleration (angular of course) | 00:29 |
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katsmeow-afk | doesn't rpm = angular acceleration (on the rotor perimeter)? | 00:31 |
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fenn | cavemanchemistry.com is nowhere near as cool as i expected | 09:32 |
fenn | it's all a bunch of animist bullshit ramblings | 09:32 |
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ybit | http://gael-varoquaux.info/computers/posters/tex_to_pdf_py | 11:02 |
ybit | kanzure: is "Synthetic biology: Engineering Escherichia coli to see light" in the nature grab? | 11:05 |
kanzure | that sounds like an ellington paper | 11:08 |
kanzure | /mnt/maxtor/all/papers/igem/Engineering a mevalonate pathway in Escherichia coli for production of terpenoids.pdf | 11:10 |
kanzure | well.. is that it? | 11:10 |
kanzure | :p | 11:10 |
ybit | where is the ut austin site that has this same template? http://designengineeringlab.org/ | 11:36 |
kanzure | you're probably thinking of http://repository.designengineeringlab.org/ | 11:38 |
kanzure | also apparently VOICED has a wikipedia page | 11:38 |
kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VOICED | 11:38 |
ybit | yeah, i edited it just now | 11:38 |
kanzure | hah whoever just edited | 11:39 |
kanzure | said "skdb - apt but for hardware" | 11:39 |
ybit | changed apt-get but for hardware to 'apt but for hardware' | 11:39 |
kanzure | so we're apt for everything /but/ hardware? haha | 11:39 |
ybit | added the link to 'apt' | 11:39 |
kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydia_(application) | 11:39 |
kanzure | cool, dpkg runs on the iphone | 11:39 |
kanzure | :) as it should | 11:40 |
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ybit | have you used functioncad? | 11:40 |
kanzure | http://www.saurik.com/id/1 | 11:40 |
kanzure | hey jasonwohlfahrt | 11:40 |
kanzure | ybit: yes it's terrible | 11:40 |
jasonwohlfahrt | hey there, im an idiot and stil managed to take down the wrong phone # | 11:40 |
ybit | i've refreshing my mind, actually reading emails that mentioned psl instead of skimming | 11:40 |
ybit | hi jasonwohlfahrt | 11:41 |
jasonwohlfahrt | hello | 11:41 |
kanzure | jasonwohlfahrt: 214 364 6334 | 11:41 |
jasonwohlfahrt | cool | 11:41 |
jasonwohlfahrt | thnaks | 11:41 |
kanzure | blah i wish i had a gallery for all ADL-related stuff | 11:41 |
kanzure | there's this image that shows why functioncad is so terrible and why you shouldn't care about it | 11:41 |
kanzure | you have this grid, you add boxes, you type in the boxes, you connect the boxes to each other | 11:44 |
fenn | is there a debian distro for iphone? | 11:47 |
fenn | (is it just ARM?) | 11:47 |
fenn | i hate that we have to describe a package manager as 'like the app store' | 11:49 |
fenn | it's like tesla going around saying 'you know, like what marconi did' | 11:49 |
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fenn | golly i dont even know what to think about this "allowing interchangeability of CNC functions and tractor operations like posthole digging" | 11:56 |
kanzure | wrong? | 12:04 |
ybit | i propose we setup a 'standards organization' ourselves and promote whatever the fsck we want and make it freely available, grr at ISO | 12:09 |
kanzure | the problem is that we'd have to actually know something | 12:10 |
kanzure | some standards are bullshit, others are because of what we know about the world | 12:10 |
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ybit | http://www.opendesign.org/svn/ome/openstage/proe/ | 12:24 |
ybit | http://www.opendesign.org/svn/omne/ | 12:24 |
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ybit | take notes at the meetup if someone will, i'm curious what goes on | 12:47 |
kanzure | random fantasy language generators | 12:48 |
kanzure | god we're geeky | 12:48 |
kanzure | http://www.replab.org/ | 12:48 |
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ybit | - I think setting up a common, shared development | 12:59 |
ybit | framework/environment | 12:59 |
ybit | should really only take a few days once we have | 12:59 |
ybit | someone else (i.e. someone other than me) interested in it. | 13:00 |
ybit | kanzure: could you expand upon that in brief | 13:00 |
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kanzure | ybit: making sure everyone knows how to use git | 13:53 |
fenn | i don't really see anything wrong with what sam and marcin are saying | 14:19 |
fenn | PCB's are pretty cheap already and there are a lot of environmental laws in the US that would make it hard to do it cost competitively | 14:19 |
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fenn | being able to make extruded aluminum profiles from scrap would be a neat project | 14:20 |
kanzure | so is ISO a standards body fenn, or not? | 14:36 |
ybit | it is but it's proprietary | 14:47 |
ybit | bkero: if you get a chance, please PM on details for the server | 14:47 |
ybit | i'm ready to implement! | 14:48 |
ybit | okay, enough reading for the time being | 14:48 |
ybit | fenn, kanzure: want to use psl or not? | 14:48 |
ybit | it doesn't describe everything we want, but it's a start? | 14:49 |
ybit | assembly instructions? | 14:49 |
ybit | some rules for assembly instruction generation: take a ground-up approach if at all possible, that is, if | 14:49 |
ybit | something is encased you build what's inside first. if there are two parts connected, you take from what's | 14:49 |
ybit | closest to the base first | 14:49 |
ybit | you canspecify what the base is by tagging parts as such in the yaml | 14:49 |
ybit | *maybe for instruction generation, there shouldbe tagsfor each brick?or justtake the name of the part and dependingon | 14:49 |
ybit | what type of | 14:49 |
ybit | connection|fastening: twist|torqueing > screwsand nuts interference fit adhesive | 14:49 |
ybit | those were my ADH-Disorded notes from yesterday | 14:50 |
ybit | before passing out on the bed | 14:50 |
ybit | maybe relevant maybe not | 14:53 |
ybit | my grandfather is dying :\ | 15:04 |
ybit | has there been a thread on why open manufacturing and open hardware are important? | 15:04 |
ybit | i'm sure there has been, i've thought it out and discussed it several times, I'm just wondering which thread on the OM list others have discussed it on | 15:05 |
ybit | guess i could grep for 'importance' | 15:07 |
ybit | and if anyone wants to seed 'the diamond age' audio book, that would be nice | 15:12 |
ybit | something to listen to while chugging away at work | 15:12 |
kanzure | what are all these notes? | 15:17 |
kanzure | instruction /assembly/ works just fine already | 15:19 |
kanzure | the problem though is that for each package in skdb, there needs to be instructions written somewhere | 15:19 |
kanzure | and you can't expect everyone to be a computational linguist | 15:19 |
kanzure | http://www.ffame.org/people/sbenner.html | 15:35 |
kanzure | buy an octopus from "aqua tech"? this doesn't look like the place: http://www.aquatech.com/ | 15:36 |
genehacker | hey kanzure | 15:57 |
kanzure | genehacker: ? | 15:57 |
genehacker | I'm using IRC | 16:01 |
ybit | really now? | 16:02 |
genehacker | yeah | 16:02 |
genehacker | from not far away | 16:02 |
ybit | congrats :P | 16:02 |
ybit | but please my mum's room is off limits | 16:02 |
ybit | anyone aware of a libsvg-graph-perl | 16:05 |
ybit | grr | 16:05 |
ybit | i meant to just post the package | 16:06 |
genehacker | post | 16:10 |
ybit | ? that was it ^ | 16:12 |
ybit | you are supposed to do apt-get now :) | 16:12 |
kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skateboard#Bearings2 | 16:20 |
kanzure | er | 16:20 |
kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skateboard#Bearings | 16:20 |
kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABEC_scale | 16:20 |
kanzure | spindle bearing basics: http://www.sme.org/cgi-bin/find-articles.pl?&00no0052&ME&20001107&&SME&#article | 16:21 |
kanzure | bicycles | 16:24 |
kanzure | skateboards | 16:24 |
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kanzure | recipes | 16:41 |
kanzure | ikea | 16:44 |
kanzure | legos, tinkertoys | 16:47 |
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xp_prg | hi all, I really need some help, anyone here? | 16:54 |
kanzure | http://guru.com/ | 17:01 |
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katsmeow-afk | i do not understand the hoopla over "skateboard" bearings, unless you just need the metric version of the almost-same-sized inch bearing | 17:06 |
genehacker | xp_prg what sort of help? | 17:07 |
genehacker | do you need help disposing of something | 17:07 |
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kanzure | mobile.css alternatives | 17:18 |
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kanzure | manufacturing-process-based cad file format | 18:39 |
kanzure | randomly generate part metadata, and then force vendors to choose which ones they actually have (because they don't give you datasheets) | 18:42 |
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kanzure | http://elevenarms.com/ar.html | 18:46 |
kanzure | cybertron glasses | 18:46 |
kanzure | octopart api http://octopart.org/ | 18:47 |
kanzure | http://amazon.com/ amazon industrial api. doesn't seem to have a lot of data | 18:47 |
kanzure | no incentive for manufacturers to make good computer-format datasheets? | 18:47 |
kanzure | http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~crlab/ | 18:49 |
kanzure | http://code.google.com/p/jallib/wiki/ParsingDatasheets | 18:57 |
kanzure | http://paidcontent.org/ | 19:07 |
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genehacker | they're everywhere | 19:08 |
genehacker | hordes of them | 19:08 |
genehacker | I made it to the safehouse | 19:09 |
kanzure | http://developer.directededge.com/article/Main_Page | 19:10 |
genehacker | there are hordes of football fan zombies here | 19:11 |
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bkero | what | 19:25 |
kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/replab | 19:34 |
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genehacker | fenn do you remember that rc plane helicopter thing you showed me a while back? | 22:09 |
genehacker | nvm found it | 22:11 |
genehacker | argh | 22:12 |
genehacker | now how does that thing work without a cambered wing? | 22:12 |
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katsmeow-afk | beats the air into sumbisson | 22:50 |
katsmeow-afk | any andom bison will do | 22:51 |
katsmeow-afk | wtf is with this eybd? | 22:51 |
kanzure_ | if i see one more article praising smuttphones, i'm going to puke | 22:54 |
genehacker | i don't know what smuttphones are | 22:58 |
genehacker | why are they so praised? | 22:58 |
kanzure_ | iphone, android, etc. | 22:59 |
genehacker | is that what you call them? | 23:04 |
genehacker | anyway, I want a vtol UAV | 23:04 |
ybit | not sure what's taking gandi so long but http://ybit.ath.cx/openmanufacturing/index.html is what is what should be up on openmanufacturing.org any second now | 23:10 |
ybit | i want to put an explanation why skdb/oscomak/tangible bit are important | 23:14 |
ybit | but i'm feeling lazy atm | 23:14 |
kanzure_ | ybit: why not list some of the topics from http://heybryan.org/om.html on that page? | 23:14 |
ybit | Good idea | 23:15 |
ybit | kanzure_: and hows about you be the non-lazy part of me that writes why skdb is important :) | 23:15 |
kanzure_ | after spending the day with charlie and others | 23:16 |
kanzure_ | i'm not sure any of you know what skdb is about | 23:16 |
kanzure_ | people disappoint me | 23:16 |
kanzure_ | also how do i run rest2web? | 23:16 |
genehacker | I understand skdb, I just don't understand how what you are doing will get us there | 23:19 |
kanzure_ | what am i doing? | 23:20 |
ybit | get us where? | 23:20 |
ybit | to a diy fablab? | 23:20 |
ybit | to the moon? | 23:20 |
genehacker | pretty much | 23:20 |
ybit | there are alternative ways of building a fablab or getting to the moon, it just isn't open source | 23:21 |
ybit | and so maybe you need to understand the importance of open source if you don't already? | 23:21 |
genehacker | oh shit | 23:31 |
genehacker | the singularity just happened | 23:31 |
genehacker | I can't believe it | 23:31 |
genehacker | you know that one IBM project? | 23:31 |
genehacker | well it became sentient... | 23:32 |
genehacker | it has fortunately been terminated | 23:33 |
ybit | wtf are you talking about? | 23:34 |
ybit | link please | 23:34 |
genehacker | JK | 23:34 |
kanzure_ | oh please. | 23:34 |
kanzure_ | i uploaded the papers yesterday. big deal | 23:34 |
genehacker | but let me link you to this article about consciousness require less neurons than we thought | 23:34 |
genehacker | http://www.physorg.com/news177692594.html | 23:36 |
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genehacker | its sort of been giving me nightmares | 23:36 |
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genehacker | smaller conscious brains means boltzman brains are more likely | 23:39 |
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kanzure | once i master the art of selling a business, i'll be selling all of you dirty hotdogs for $2/dog | 23:49 |
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