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| kanzure | do'h there's a typo in the dulwich tutorial. that's why it wasn't working | 00:03 |
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| kanzure | http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:master/data.yaml/64510510fdd686f96f37a9807eaca3115003f865 | 00:41 |
| kanzure | well that was painful. | 00:41 |
| kanzure | but i guess that counts as the first revision through the web interface? | 00:41 |
| kanzure | yay this url automagically works: http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:master/data.yaml/64510510fdd686f96f37a9807eaca3115003f865/:edit | 00:43 |
| CIA-33 | skdb: kanzure * r bad1dd9 /web/web.py: first commit has been made through the web interface :) | 00:44 |
| kanzure | heh HEAD is bad1dd955a66d0488e97825da4755d1e5dae8b24 x | 00:45 |
| kanzure | watch out, the next xkcd strip is going to be "my hobby: randomly trolling through SHA digests for hidden messages" | 00:46 |
| fenn | "my hobby: building a quantum supercomputer to create SHA digests with hidden messages" | 00:50 |
| fenn | i agree wholeheartedly with the mouseover text on http://xkcd.com/662/ | 01:00 |
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| zignig | just found skdb, very interested | 06:01 |
| zignig | have a makerbot and I've been looking into a distributed DB of 'stuff' online for a while. | 06:02 |
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| Utopiah | first time I check the 2009-08-13 pdf, well done :) | 10:41 |
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| kanzure | http://www.flickr.com/photos/zignig/sets/72157617484539893/ | 12:04 |
| kanzure | stalk: simon kirkby | 12:13 |
| kanzure | http://mjr.iki.fi/humor/book-of-eli.jpg | 12:14 |
| kanzure | http://www.thingiverse.com/zignig | 12:23 |
| kanzure | apparently he hangs out in #debian | 12:24 |
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| fenn | i've been seeing lots of cool stuff made with openscad | 13:03 |
| fenn | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1339 | 13:03 |
| fenn | i can't figure out how to take a screenshot of a movie | 13:24 |
| fenn | maybe someone with nonborked mplayer can take a screenshot of this pump http://vimeo.com/2404609 | 13:26 |
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| fenn | hoeken is smart: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:589 | 13:57 |
| fenn | d'eaux nevermind | 13:58 |
| fenn | "I abandoned the idea of having a fully functional keyboard and just went for style points. Interestingly enough, the left side of the keyboard still works" | 13:58 |
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| kanzure | fenn: http://lorenzod8n.wordpress.com/2007/05/23/screenshots-with-mplayer/ | 14:16 |
| kanzure | mplayer -vf screenshot ~/videos/goldrake/goldrake_-_18_-_passagio_segreto.avi | 14:16 |
| kanzure | and then press 's' to save the screenshot | 14:16 |
| kanzure | "If you want to take continuous screenshots instead then press ‘S’ (shift+s). To stop taking shots, press ‘S’ again. Warning, this will create a lot of pictures in a very short time. Don’t leave this running for too long unless you have loads of hard disk space." | 14:16 |
| kanzure | fenn: do you know why genehacker spontaneously started to talk about openscad the other day? why would he know about it | 14:19 |
| kanzure | openscad does parametric STL? what? | 14:19 |
| kanzure | http://openscad.org/ | 14:20 |
| kanzure | svn co http://svn.clifford.at/openscad | 14:20 |
| kanzure | oh that's right it has its own crazy language or something | 14:20 |
| kanzure | fenn: todd sent you an email, wants you to "register" for the summit | 14:24 |
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| fenn | -vf screenshot doesn't work, i already went through all this a zillion times | 14:45 |
| fenn | it seems to have been compiled wrong in debianmultimedia | 14:45 |
| fenn | did i get some email before about registering? i cant seem to find it | 14:51 |
| kanzure | maybe not. | 14:52 |
| kanzure | just click his link | 14:52 |
| fenn | gee they like required fields | 14:56 |
| kanzure | yay | 15:06 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:master/ | 15:06 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:anonymous/ | 15:06 |
| kanzure | hm this shouldn't work (i think): http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:master/data.yaml/64510510fdd686f96f37a9807eaca3115003f865 | 15:07 |
| kanzure | because on branch master, there has never been that SHA-1 digest | 15:07 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:master/data.yaml is the correct version | 15:07 |
| kanzure | but it does :( | 15:07 |
| kanzure | hm. http://heybryan.org:8081/package/bearing:master/__init__.py/41e01b05cd57a6ee7667ee6e6d71882d4c65a43c works but not http://heybryan.org:8081/package/bearing:master/__init__.py | 15:09 |
| kanzure | neither does http://heybryan.org:8081/package/bearing/__init__.py | 15:09 |
| fenn | aroo? | 15:10 |
| kanzure | also i guess on /package/lego:master it shouldn't put SHA-1 digests into the URLs because it's already on master | 15:10 |
| fenn | is there a way to get a list of files in a package? | 15:10 |
| kanzure | yeah http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:master/ | 15:10 |
| fenn | ok cool | 15:11 |
| kanzure | and on any of the files you can do /:edit | 15:11 |
| fenn | it just "needs" some css claptrap now | 15:11 |
| kanzure | also links :p | 15:11 |
| fenn | uh, yeah | 15:11 |
| kanzure | ybit! | 15:11 |
| fenn | metadata icons, package title, buttons for git navigation | 15:12 |
| fenn | cad previews | 15:12 |
| kanzure | lemme fix stuff like this http://heybryan.org:8081/package/bearing/__init__.py first | 15:12 |
| fenn | by metadata icons i just mean stuff like license badges | 15:13 |
| fenn | we can worry about gravatar later :) | 15:13 |
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| kanzure | for some reason there's only mimetype utilities that accept files. nothing accepts a string or open buffer | 15:41 |
| ybit | kanzure! | 15:43 |
| kanzure | i guess i can use mimetypes.types_map['.tgz'] | 15:45 |
| kanzure | and by default do 'text/plain' | 15:45 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:master/demo.py/cb2e83080f2afbe9beb14fb50f698c633d66a5de | 15:50 |
| kanzure | there, mime type functionality | 15:50 |
| kanzure | although this should only be for the /:default view since we'll want this to appear in the template (and that won't be text/plain) | 15:50 |
| kanzure | looks like this works now: http://heybryan.org:8081/package/bearing/__init__.py | 15:53 |
| fenn | how come it didn't work before? | 15:55 |
| fenn | the underscores? | 15:55 |
| kanzure | from dulwich.repo import Repo; repo = Repo("/home/kanzure/local/packages-skdb/bearing/"); repo.head() <-- it puked on calling repo.head() | 15:55 |
| fenn | i'm getting some weird error messages sporadically - "the file or folder heybryan.org does not exist" | 15:55 |
| kanzure | buh? | 15:55 |
| fenn | not sure what that actually means | 15:56 |
| kanzure | i've never ever seen that | 15:56 |
| fenn | it's a konqueror error, pops up in a dialog window ("ok") | 15:56 |
| kanzure | try my ip address. i think i might be 192.168.1.102:8081 | 15:56 |
| fenn | nah it's hard to reproduce.. only happens the first time i go to a .py file, or something.. | 15:57 |
| kanzure | O.o | 15:57 |
| kanzure | bug report! :) | 15:57 |
| fenn | bug report: bugs everywhere pukes because i'm using an old version | 15:58 |
| kanzure | install newer version :) | 15:58 |
| fenn | insufficient solution | 15:58 |
| kanzure | er what? | 15:58 |
| kanzure | ok try editing a file. you should get a link to the new version | 15:58 |
| kanzure | i edited: http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:master/interfaces.py/baea478c7cee4fb7706ee05a8b8c3f7ecedbbe92/ | 15:59 |
| kanzure | and it linked me to: http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:anonymous/interfaces.py/71b8d9f37868bababa9c01578e65c46673f6dffc | 16:00 |
| kanzure | which is a commit message. fooey. | 16:00 |
| kanzure | ok maybe i should give the blob.id value instead of commit.id :) | 16:00 |
| fenn | ok well i didnt get the error on that one | 16:01 |
| kanzure | what did you get? | 16:01 |
| kanzure | oh | 16:01 |
| kanzure | you mean on the .py file | 16:01 |
| kanzure | interfaces.py should have a line near the top saying "import optfunc" (this was my change) | 16:01 |
| fenn | but i did get the error on the second link ( 71b8...) | 16:01 |
| kanzure | please be more specific- what error? the same konqueror issue? | 16:01 |
| fenn | ""the file or folder heybryan.org does not exist" | 16:02 |
| fenn | if i go to the url again it works | 16:02 |
| kanzure | are you trying with an IP address? | 16:02 |
| fenn | er, besides being a commit message that is | 16:02 |
| kanzure | ok it also is a commit message | 16:02 |
| kanzure | well | 16:03 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:anonymous/interfaces.py | 16:03 |
| kanzure | at least that shows the edit on branch anonymous | 16:03 |
| fenn | same thing happens with ip address | 16:03 |
| kanzure | aha | 16:03 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:anonymous/interfaces.py/9d567af46ea2b65ad2090c0ea6df008e614019e3 | 16:03 |
| kanzure | now it gives the right link | 16:03 |
| kanzure | after you edit a file, it now correctly links you to the latest version | 16:03 |
| kanzure | er to your latest version | 16:04 |
| fenn | how do i edit again? | 16:05 |
| kanzure | append /:edit to the end of the url | 16:06 |
| kanzure | eventually there will be a link of course | 16:06 |
| fenn | why does it need a colon? | 16:06 |
| kanzure | otherwise it thinks it's a file | 16:06 |
| kanzure | and otherwise we have to enforce that nobody can make an "edit" file, etc. etc. | 16:06 |
| fenn | but we have to enforce that nobody make an ":edit" file anyway | 16:07 |
| kanzure | nobody makes files with a colon in the first character | 16:07 |
| kanzure | and if they do, they're doing something wonky | 16:07 |
| fenn | nobody makes files named 'edit' | 16:07 |
| kanzure | i would much rather do ":edit" than "edit" | 16:07 |
| kanzure | i don't want to bet on it | 16:07 |
| fenn | why not /ea6df008e614019e3 | 16:07 |
| kanzure | hm? | 16:08 |
| fenn | some random string of crap | 16:08 |
| fenn | i mean what level of collision avoidance is necessary | 16:08 |
| fenn | i think /edit is fine | 16:08 |
| kanzure | i'm sorry, a random string of crap.. for what? | 16:08 |
| fenn | so people don't make a file with that name | 16:08 |
| kanzure | because we want them to be able to type out urls | 16:08 |
| fenn | sigh | 16:09 |
| kanzure | "how do i edit again?" "oh just type //ea6df008e614019e3" | 16:09 |
| kanzure | anyway | 16:09 |
| fenn | isn't it easier to say 'add /edit' than 'add /:edit' | 16:09 |
| kanzure | this stuff is changeable | 16:09 |
| fenn | especially if i'm saying this out loud | 16:09 |
| fenn | how do you pronounce :edit | 16:09 |
| kanzure | colon edit | 16:09 |
| fenn | bah | 16:09 |
| fenn | http://slashdot.org/:edit | 16:09 |
| kanzure | again, this is changeable | 16:10 |
| fenn | well, it works, and that's cool | 16:10 |
| CIA-33 | skdb: kanzure * r 45cb8cf / (2 files in 2 dirs): web.py now shows package indices and editing gives you links to the new file, etc. | 16:11 |
| fenn | O.o http://www.thingiverse.com/image:2422 | 16:13 |
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| kanzure | fenn: everyone that has gone on an unsuccessful date with "katherine waters" | 16:14 |
| fenn | Article 15. (1) Everyone has the right to a nationality. | 16:14 |
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| fenn | what the hell kind of "right" is that | 16:15 |
| kanzure | hah | 16:15 |
| kanzure | "you're welcome" | 16:15 |
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| ybit | how would you pronounce this: "sajid" | 16:49 |
| ybit | say-jid? or sa-jid? | 16:50 |
| ybit | meh, don't worry, he'll tel me | 16:50 |
| ybit | it's the first | 16:52 |
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| ybit | wasn't zigzag in here at one point? | 16:55 |
| ybit | i guess not | 17:00 |
| ybit | when i first say http://www.flickr.com/photos/zignig/3681804154/sizes/o/ i thought it was an attempt at making a microscope, and i got excited | 17:01 |
| ybit | re: fenn's comment on needing a feed reader: i'm really about not reading my feeds, i'm 20k behind right now | 17:06 |
| ybit | i need a more efficient way of filtering and getting the messages to me | 17:06 |
| ybit | and i need to setup xmobar to alert me of emails | 17:07 |
| ybit | i usually read rss if while i'm eating | 17:07 |
| Utopiah | newsbeuter? | 17:10 |
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| ybit | Utopiah: yeah, newsbeuter is nice, but it would be nice to have an extra 24 hours in the day to sort through all the news | 17:27 |
| Utopiah | extra24 | 17:27 |
| Utopiah | C++ GPL soft that adds 24hrs extra, free | 17:28 |
| ybit | or just a decent filter | 17:28 |
| Utopiah | http://fabien.benetou.fr/Content/TheRSSquest | 17:29 |
| ybit | i only bother reading the news every once in awhile when i eat, which is kind of sad. but i _rarely_ miss any major news i don't already know | 17:29 |
| ybit | the problem with filtering by keyword is you don't know what keywords will be in the next article you were glad you read. and the problem with crowd sourcing is that quite a lot of people may not care for the article you like | 17:34 |
| kanzure | have you tried using grammars? | 17:34 |
| ybit | nope | 17:34 |
| kanzure | or rating systems? i.e. based off of some relational network between words | 17:34 |
| ybit | that would probably be the way to go though | 17:35 |
| kanzure | and then if there's a highly used word in the article, and you've never used that word before, but it's 90% related or somesuch (by some custom metric), then it might be an interesting article | 17:35 |
| kanzure | i was thinking of doing something like this except for music | 17:37 |
| kanzure | construct a feature vector for each song based on the tags and the number of listeners who have tagged the song as such, for each song | 17:37 |
| kanzure | and then cluster the songs based on who-tagged-it-as-such and the number of listeners, among other things | 17:38 |
| kanzure | most music sucks and i seem to run out of it | 17:38 |
| kanzure | so maybe i'll get around to completing my last.fm cluster script dealy (i've already started using it to meet people, met a lot of linux chicks) | 17:38 |
| kanzure | linux metalhead chicks | 17:38 |
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| kanzure | http://www.eff.org/press/mentions/2009/11/24 "The San Francisco Bay Guardian reports on the SF Police Department's illegal laptop seizures, and EFF's role in helping DJs and other party goers protect their privacy and get their machines back." | 18:12 |
| fenn | i think this just about says everything about makerbot http://www.flickr.com/photos/zignig/3681804154/sizes/o/ | 18:36 |
| * ybit doesn't understand why anyone would get a makerbot instead of a reprap | 18:37 | |
| fenn | because it's cool! and it only costs $700! | 18:39 |
| ybit | no way, only $700! | 18:39 |
| fenn | if you don't understand, i can't tell you... | 18:39 |
| ybit | that was a joke | 18:40 |
| * ybit slaps fenn with a trout | 18:40 | |
| ybit | oh, maybe you should slap me instead | 18:40 |
| fenn | well, being able to buy something is ... something | 18:41 |
| fenn | instead of figuring out how to cause someone to make a set for you | 18:41 |
| ybit | tis true, but why that and not a repstrap, makes no sense | 18:41 |
| fenn | oh, yeah, repstraps | 18:41 |
| ybit | i know | 18:42 |
| fenn | if you have a repstrap why do you need a darwin or mendel? | 18:42 |
| fenn | i kind of like this teapot: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:452 | 18:48 |
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| kanzure | hi jason | 19:20 |
| fenn | i think he's just opening/closing his laptop | 19:21 |
| kanzure | i've been listening to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfH9i-C9ico | 19:30 |
| kanzure | what's with the view count on that? | 19:30 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | hey bryan, you would be correct about my laptop :) | 19:38 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | i forgot i was still connected to the chat | 19:39 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | you there? | 19:39 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | anybody out there? | 19:39 |
| kanzure | yes | 19:40 |
| kanzure | fenn: http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:anonymous/ | 19:40 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | made any coding breakthroughs recently? | 19:40 |
| kanzure | have been working on the web view (see the link) | 19:40 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | cool | 19:40 |
| kanzure | what have you been up to? | 19:41 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | busy with dr. algorithm stuff, songwriting, coding, running in circles | 19:41 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | you know, the usual | 19:41 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | i want a god helmet! | 19:41 |
| kanzure | :) | 19:42 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | I also want to get some really good vr googles/glasses/helmet | 19:42 |
| kanzure | s/googles/goggles/ ? | 19:42 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | goggles, haha | 19:43 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | google is its own reality | 19:43 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | we should have another taskforce meetup soon | 19:44 |
| kanzure | not this coming week | 19:44 |
| kanzure | i'll be in california | 19:44 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | oh yeah, forgot about that | 19:44 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | wish i could go | 19:44 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | is it going to stream online? | 19:45 |
| kanzure | so they claim | 19:45 |
| kanzure | i dunno where | 19:45 |
| kanzure | http://hplus.eventbrite.com/ | 19:45 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | cool, you'll have to send me a link if you find it | 19:45 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | oh, ok | 19:45 |
| kanzure | the conference price details are totally bogus | 19:45 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | hmmm | 19:45 |
| kanzure | ybit: did you sign up as a speaker with the link i sent you? | 19:45 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | for the next meetup, we should have potluck, where everyone brings there own in vitro (insert word here) | 19:46 |
| kanzure | maybe we can have an skdb-installation-fest | 19:46 |
| kanzure | i don't think you have it installed yet | 19:46 |
| kanzure | and there's a few tricks to it | 19:46 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | yeah | 19:47 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | that would be cool, the fest | 19:47 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | i explained the concept of singularity to my parents, and they seemed a bit worried | 19:48 |
| kanzure | uh oh | 19:48 |
| kanzure | well, some people do make it sound like a cult | 19:48 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | yep | 19:48 |
| kanzure | in fact there's a cult of singularity people (singularitiarians) | 19:48 |
| kanzure | wait | 19:48 |
| kanzure | singularitarians | 19:48 |
| kanzure | there we go | 19:48 |
| fenn | i could think of worse cults to belong to | 19:49 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | yeah, me too | 19:49 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | i've probably belonged to worse orgs | 19:49 |
| fenn | are you a card-carrying-communist? | 19:49 |
| kanzure | no he's a card carrying anarchocapitalist | 19:49 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | yep | 19:49 |
| fenn | oh yeah i forgot | 19:49 |
| fenn | same thing :P | 19:49 |
| kanzure | i didn't actually see any card | 19:49 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | haha | 19:49 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | I'll show you next time | 19:50 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | whaaa whaaaa | 19:50 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | you should send me a list of conferences you plan on attending, bryan | 19:50 |
| kanzure | i don't plan on attending any. the "outlaw biology" thing is still a bit of a ways off and i don't know if it will actually happen | 19:51 |
| kanzure | other than that, i don't plan on doing anything really | 19:51 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | cool | 19:51 |
| kanzure | if i happen to make lots of money maybe i'll eventually go to an igem conference? | 19:51 |
| kanzure | dunno | 19:51 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | I'm telling you, you're sitting on a gold mine. We just need to monetize some of your brilliant ideas | 19:52 |
| kanzure | well they're not all my ideas | 19:52 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | then we can build self-replicating 3d printers | 19:52 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | true | 19:52 |
| kanzure | but i don't think it matters who's ideas they are as long as we're not evil | 19:52 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | we need to form an ideas collective | 19:52 |
| kanzure | or as long as i'm not evil | 19:52 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | yeah, you're not evil | 19:53 |
| kanzure | bwahaha | 19:53 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | or atleast you've fooled me | 19:53 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | oh god | 19:53 |
| fenn | what was anil's last name? | 19:54 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | don't know | 19:55 |
| kanzure | one sec | 19:55 |
| kanzure | anil kumar katti | 19:55 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | haven't seen him since 3ds | 19:55 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | what about you, bryan? | 19:55 |
| kanzure | he's emailed me once or twice | 19:56 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | did you sleep on one of the blow up mattresses that weekend, or did you just not sleep? | 19:56 |
| kanzure | i slept at home on friday night | 19:56 |
| kanzure | got home at 2am | 19:57 |
| kanzure | and didn't sleep saturday or sunday | 19:57 |
| kanzure | fenn: http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:anonymous/grammar.yaml/101970a70688638e9e311bd51212356001f2c0e7 now with links | 19:57 |
| kanzure | uh oh /:edit doesn't work | 19:57 |
| fenn | links in a yaml file? | 19:57 |
| kanzure | nono | 19:58 |
| kanzure | links like "edit this page" | 19:58 |
| kanzure | and "back to the file index" | 19:58 |
| kanzure | although it doesn't do hierarchical stuff yet (like a folder within a folder) | 19:58 |
| fenn | ok this is ridiculous i gotta switch to the tub | 19:58 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:anonymous/metadata.yaml/65ff087e18045c951fbd360bc7a8e16cdfd1e25d/:edit | 19:58 |
| kanzure | there we go | 19:59 |
| kanzure | forgot to tell the template the value of the "branch" variable :( | 19:59 |
| fenn | you should wrap the yaml in <pre> tags, not <br> | 19:59 |
| kanzure | is that what pre does? | 20:00 |
| fenn | it means 'pre-formatted' | 20:00 |
| fenn | you lost all the indentation see | 20:00 |
| kanzure | didn't know about <pre> | 20:01 |
| Utopiah | http://knowfree.net/2009/11/programming-amazon-web-services/ | 20:01 |
| fenn | huh. well it might not be super-iso9000-w3c-valid | 20:01 |
| fenn | but it's been around since forever | 20:01 |
| kanzure | fenn: look better now? | 20:02 |
| kanzure | hm needs syntax highlighting | 20:02 |
| fenn | q: why is omnifab in 60 point font :P | 20:02 |
| kanzure | instead of a giant image banner 600000x501924091490120941 pixels? | 20:02 |
| fenn | i mean why is it there at all | 20:03 |
| fenn | it's just taking up space | 20:03 |
| kanzure | i thought you didn't care about the template? | 20:03 |
| kanzure | ldjladkfjadlk | 20:03 |
| fenn | i don't care about the template as long as it gets the fuck out of my way | 20:04 |
| fenn | feature request: link to raw file | 20:06 |
| fenn | bug report: clicking on filename, page no longer shows value for SHA | 20:06 |
| kanzure | that's not a bug | 20:07 |
| kanzure | it was just a different link | 20:07 |
| kanzure | if it doesn't show the SHA then it's on master | 20:07 |
| kanzure | the "sha" link has the sha in it | 20:07 |
| fenn | and then its lost.. 'cannot find branch' | 20:07 |
| kanzure | if you would rather me delete the filename and sha link and just merge them that's ok too | 20:07 |
| kanzure | huh? | 20:07 |
| kanzure | where does it say that? | 20:08 |
| fenn | _v = VFFSL(SL,"branch",True) # u'$branch' on line 3, col 41 | 20:08 |
| fenn | NotFound: cannot find 'branch' | 20:08 |
| fenn | http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:anonymous/grammar.yaml/:edit | 20:08 |
| kanzure | oh on edit | 20:08 |
| fenn | after clicking on grammar.yaml, then edit, then click the edit button | 20:08 |
| kanzure | if you click the edit button again, what happens? | 20:08 |
| fenn | go back? | 20:09 |
| kanzure | (i just fixed it i hope) | 20:09 |
| kanzure | uh, just resubmit somehow | 20:09 |
| kanzure | good? | 20:09 |
| fenn | yeah | 20:09 |
| kanzure | okie dokie. my bad on that one :) | 20:09 |
| fenn | the 'goto new version' link is sort of confusing | 20:09 |
| kanzure | dur? | 20:09 |
| kanzure | i haven't looked at it recently | 20:09 |
| fenn | am i on the new version after clicking edit? if not why? | 20:09 |
| kanzure | you are on the new version after clicking "edit", yes | 20:10 |
| kanzure | wait | 20:10 |
| fenn | then why have a link to new version | 20:10 |
| fenn | (yes edit goes to new version, i checked) | 20:10 |
| kanzure | actually check the SHA-1 on the top in the links | 20:10 |
| kanzure | it should probably be different | 20:10 |
| kanzure | than the one in the "go to new page" link | 20:10 |
| kanzure | anyway i should do an HTTP redirect to be honest | 20:11 |
| fenn | the sha only shows up in the url after clicking 'go to new version' | 20:11 |
| kanzure | ok gimme a sec to enable the raw file view feature, it's just a line or two extra | 20:11 |
| fenn | i need to figure out a better way to cite sources in yaml | 20:12 |
| kanzure | !citation "bibtex bullshit" ? | 20:13 |
| fenn | right now it's just comments | 20:13 |
| fenn | but also i dont want to have to add !@citation for every single line in the file | 20:13 |
| fenn | if all the data comes from same source | 20:13 |
| fenn | feature request: git clone url on package page | 20:14 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | just finished eating a delicious can of sardines | 20:15 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | yum yum, fried turtle | 20:15 |
| fenn | sounds disgustingly illegal | 20:15 |
| kanzure | oops | 20:15 |
| kanzure | uh, i just killed the server | 20:15 |
| kanzure | should be back now | 20:16 |
| kanzure | sorry about that | 20:16 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | often times, the more illegal, the better it tastes | 20:16 |
| kanzure | ok should have raw file view now | 20:16 |
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| kanzure | hey zignig | 20:17 |
| zignig | yo ! | 20:17 |
| ybit | kanzure: no i didn't sign up as a speaker | 20:17 |
| kanzure | zignig: we're testing ways to break skdb's web/web.py atm. | 20:17 |
| zignig | just trying to untangle the sourse | 20:17 |
| kanzure | zignig: feel free to join us: #!/usr/bin/python | 20:17 |
| kanzure | from lego import * | 20:17 |
| ybit | we could do a breakout lunch session though? | 20:17 |
| kanzure | er | 20:17 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org:8081/package/lego:anonymous/lego.py/11b3e11c347e967eddc4cb386f17041ea410c26d | 20:17 |
| ybit | oi zignig | 20:18 |
| zignig | yo ybit! | 20:18 |
| ybit | we were just admiring your photos on flickr earlier | 20:18 |
| zignig | greetings from perth .au | 20:18 |
| zignig | thanks. | 20:18 |
| zignig | :) | 20:18 |
| fenn | your panavise circuit board vise looks like it needs a larger base | 20:18 |
| zignig | been building plastics bit for a few months | 20:19 |
| zignig | fenn yep. Nothing some bluetack can't fix ;) | 20:19 |
| ybit | i.e. 'if you want to hear more, we will be having a lunch session to explain our ideas further' | 20:19 |
| fenn | just curious what you think skdb is supposed to do | 20:19 |
| zignig | there is an updated design on thingiverse with a better base. | 20:19 |
| fenn | "dont assume people agree with you for the same reasons you believe in what you do" or however that goes | 20:20 |
| ybit | everyone agrees with me | 20:20 |
| zignig | fenn: a repository for parts and supppliers of parts to build stuff. | 20:20 |
| zignig | preferable distributed , largely opensource and comprehensive. | 20:20 |
| fenn | so why is thingiverse not sufficient, for you? | 20:20 |
| zignig | no programmatic interface | 20:21 |
| fenn | so if they make a web API then everything's hunky dory? | 20:21 |
| zignig | and I would like to keep a repository offline for use when there is no net access. | 20:21 |
| fenn | aha | 20:21 |
| ybit | i'm going to toss this one out there and know that everyone agrees with me: skdb devs also have a goal of automating as much as possible the process of building the designs in the repo | 20:21 |
| fenn | i am also a ruthless fascist who refuses to promote crafty cute bullshit | 20:22 |
| zignig | ybit: agreed , I would also like a pipe line to 'compile' the designs ready for building. | 20:22 |
| zignig | fenn: hehehe | 20:22 |
| kanzure | apt-get install laser-cannon | 20:23 |
| fenn | um, unless it's lego, but i can't help that | 20:23 |
| zignig | fenn: art has it's place, but I take it that you are utilitarian. | 20:23 |
| fenn | i'm just burned out, that's all | 20:23 |
| fenn | saw this yesterday, was amazed http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/mandelbulb.html http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/2mandelbulb.html | 20:24 |
| zignig | kanzure: :) , there is also the idea of adaptable designs | 20:24 |
| zignig | fenn: mmmm fractals, mandelbrot and I have a love hate relationship. | 20:24 |
| ybit | you love that you hate him? | 20:24 |
| zignig | I love and hate him | 20:25 |
| fenn | it's complex (pun intended) | 20:25 |
| zignig | fascinating math and systems , but he ruined determenistic science with his chaotic systems. | 20:25 |
| zignig | fenn: | 20:26 |
| fenn | i thought goedel did that | 20:26 |
| zignig | fenn 'i' get it :P | 20:26 |
| kanzure | zignig, so you were looking at the code? | 20:26 |
| zignig | kanzure: yep, been coding python for years. You may want to look at documenting dependancies | 20:26 |
| kanzure | heh | 20:26 |
| kanzure | yes i agree | 20:26 |
| kanzure | there's a bug report somewhere about that | 20:27 |
| zignig | units, cherry , dulwich etc | 20:27 |
| zignig | I am getting an error on the web module | 20:27 |
| kanzure | oh? did you install cheetah? | 20:27 |
| kanzure | fenn: do you have a script for this? | 20:27 |
| zignig | Traceback (most recent call last): | 20:27 |
| zignig | File "run_web.py", line 2, in <module> | 20:27 |
| zignig | from web import * | 20:27 |
| zignig | File "/opt/skdb/web/web.py", line 962, in <module> | 20:27 |
| zignig | application = cherrypy.Application(Root(), script_name=None, config=conf) | 20:27 |
| zignig | TypeError: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'config' | 20:27 |
| fenn | i havent installed any of the web stuff | 20:27 |
| kanzure | zignig: which version of cherrypy? | 20:27 |
| zignig | 3 | 20:28 |
| kanzure | er | 20:28 |
| kanzure | 3.1.2? | 20:28 |
| fenn | er, yeah a list of dependencies would be a Good Thing(tm) | 20:28 |
| zignig | 3.0.2-2 | 20:28 |
| kanzure | ah well that might be why | 20:28 |
| zignig | that would be it | 20:28 |
| zignig | :) | 20:28 |
| kanzure | let me document the dependencies real quick | 20:28 |
| zignig | uh oh. | 20:29 |
| fenn | let's let zignig tell us what he's missing | 20:29 |
| kanzure | graphviz? | 20:29 |
| kanzure | igraph? | 20:29 |
| zignig | I am moving house at the moment , and she who must be obeyed has called for more cleaning | 20:29 |
| fenn | see, i dont know if that is a dependency or not | 20:30 |
| zignig | So.... good to touch base with you all. and we can continue the world domination^W^W skdb plans forthwith | 20:30 |
| zignig | :( | 20:30 |
| fenn | how about 'recommended' | 20:30 |
| * fenn waves | 20:30 | |
| zignig | :) | 20:30 |
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| fenn | well there you go, a user | 20:31 |
| kanzure | yay | 20:31 |
| kanzure | i like users! | 20:31 |
| fenn | can we tape him up on the wall next to the cash register? | 20:31 |
| kanzure | you mean as a trophy? | 20:31 |
| fenn | ya | 20:32 |
| fenn | Snow Cone Machine? | 20:32 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | Ohhh, Snow Cone! I bet that's not a very common topic of discussion in this chat room! | 20:33 |
| kanzure | believe it or not, maggie asked me to make her a snow cone machine | 20:33 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | cool | 20:33 |
| kanzure | i told her to make it herself | 20:33 |
| kanzure | hehe | 20:33 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | hah | 20:33 |
| fenn | isnt that sort of like a lathe | 20:33 |
| kanzure | what does a snow cone machine actually do? | 20:34 |
| kanzure | does it make the cones? | 20:34 |
| kanzure | or the snow? | 20:34 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | you could have a 3d printer that makes sno cone things | 20:34 |
| fenn | the snow | 20:34 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | yeah, you need a human to make it look all pretty | 20:34 |
| fenn | it's like ice-carving industrial byproduct, fun for all ages | 20:34 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | i like your description, fenn | 20:35 |
| jasonwohlfahrt | I wonder who created the first sno cone | 20:36 |
| * fenn snickers at http://adl.serveftp.org/dokuwiki/skdb_readme | 20:36 | |
| kanzure | hey what version is pythonocc-0.3 in terms of their repo? | 20:37 |
| fenn | i'm afraid to say | 20:39 |
| fenn | at least 259 | 20:39 |
| CIA-33 | skdb: kanzure * r 38dfafa /web/web.py: more views, working on web.py, etc. | 20:40 |
| CIA-33 | skdb: kanzure * r ce48e8a /doc/hacking: starting to log dependencies (pester fenn for a script) | 20:40 |
| kanzure | in skdb/doc/hacking | 20:41 |
| kanzure | oh crap forgot cheetah | 20:41 |
| kanzure | uhh | 20:41 |
| fenn | i think this should be on the wiki? | 20:42 |
| kanzure | sure but also in the repository somewhere | 20:42 |
| kanzure | we can link to the file in the working copy on adl.serveftp.org/skdb/ | 20:43 |
| kanzure | from the wiki. | 20:43 |
| fenn | yeah but not if it's all one big 'hacking' document | 20:43 |
| kanzure | ok | 20:43 |
| kanzure | split it up if you want | 20:43 |
| fenn | 'installing' maybe | 20:43 |
| CIA-33 | skdb: fenn * r cb48f12 /doc/ (hacking installing): renamed hacking to installing since it was all about installing | 20:47 |
| kanzure | oh why did i put the svn co line in there? they should just wget http://download.gna.org/pythonocc/source_release/pythonOCC-0.3.tar.gz | 20:49 |
| fenn | i am confused | 20:50 |
| fenn | fatal: '../git/skdb.git' does not appear to be a git repository | 20:50 |
| kanzure | buh? | 20:50 |
| kanzure | what did you do? | 20:50 |
| fenn | how do i update /var/www/skdb? | 20:50 |
| kanzure | git pull origin master | 20:50 |
| fenn | weird | 20:51 |
| kanzure | no? | 20:51 |
| fenn | that worked | 20:51 |
| fenn | origin is /var/www/skdb.git which symlinks to /var/www/git/skdb.git | 20:52 |
| fenn | maybe it just doesnt like relative paths | 20:52 |
| kanzure | probably not | 20:52 |
| kanzure | also /var/www/skdb/ is symlinked to /home/bryan/code/skdb/ | 20:52 |
| kanzure | IIRC | 20:52 |
| fenn | i suppose it should also be symlinked to /home/fenn/code/skdb just to make sure we've covered all possible permutations | 20:56 |
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| kanzure | hm? | 20:56 |
| fenn | this is what it looks like for me: http://fennetic.net/irc/skdb-konqueror.png http://fennetic.net/irc/skdb-firefox.png http://fennetic.net/irc/skdb-dillo.png | 21:32 |
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| fenn | hello tim | 21:56 |
| timschmidt | hey | 21:56 |
| timschmidt | putting some of PLA's properties to the test tonight. | 21:57 |
| timschmidt | Attempting to bake away some stubborn PLA caught near the nozzle of my new extruder. Running the extruder at 255C for nigh on 45 minutes now. | 21:58 |
| timschmidt | it's still bubbling out slowly | 21:58 |
| kanzure | ybit: are you around? | 22:25 |
| QuantumG | timschmidt: nice to see someone actually talking about hardware on this chan :) | 22:26 |
| timschmidt | QuantumG: it's almost entirely a symptom of the disparity between my poor programming, and excellent bodging skills. | 22:28 |
| QuantumG | bodge on, bodge on | 22:29 |
| * fenn indgnantly holds up the pile of bodge on his desk | 22:29 | |
| kanzure | if lifting it doesn't require 100 pounds of chains, it's not bodge | 22:30 |
| QuantumG | microbodge | 22:30 |
| kanzure | fine | 22:30 |
| timschmidt | I have a 7.5ton overhead crane at my hackerspace for lifting my bodge... | 22:30 |
| fenn | i'm abstaining from mass for lent | 22:30 |
| timschmidt | I've been dreaming of ways to turn it into a 50 x 110ft CNC machine | 22:31 |
| * fenn mumbles something about differential gps | 22:32 | |
| fenn | (not serious) | 22:32 |
| timschmidt | I could mount a full size bridgeport mill to it upside-down... (joking) | 22:33 |
| ybit | http://ybit.ath.cx/images/i-suck-at-css-again.png | 22:36 |
| ybit | kanzure: yeah | 22:36 |
| kanzure | does anyone know where i can find the headers for 2.6.30-bpo.1-686? | 22:42 |
| kanzure | hm it's a backport http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/linux-headers-2.6.30-bpo.1-686 | 22:42 |
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| ybit | kanzure: were you wanting something | 22:45 |
| ybit | http://ybit.ath.cx/images/i_still_suck_at_css_but_not_as_badly.png | 22:46 |
| ybit | hi marainein | 22:48 |
| marainein | hey ybit | 22:48 |
| marainein | what are you doing? | 22:48 |
| kanzure | ybit: no i found it | 22:50 |
| ybit | hi marainein, coming up with a template | 22:57 |
| ybit | hows about yourself? | 22:57 |
| marainein | failing to get my mindstorms controller working | 22:58 |
| marainein | what are you templating? | 22:58 |
| ybit | marainein: trying to come up with a design for fabhow.com | 23:02 |
| kanzure | looks like it's taken | 23:04 |
| ybit | by whom? | 23:13 |
| ybit | it wouldn't be owner-name: Heath Matlock organisation: ~ | 23:13 |
| ybit | if it isn't we're in trouble | 23:13 |
| ybit | i'm quickly losing faith in my css skills | 23:30 |
| ybit | i say to heck with it and just use a free css template | 23:30 |
| ybit | or whatever, i really don't like doing this | 23:31 |
| * ybit and his adhd self is taking up .deb creation | 23:32 | |
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