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| genehacker | oh almost forgot, remind the people going to the meeting about the sparkfun free electronics deal(Jan 8th $100 worth of free stuff for the first 1000 people to claim it), we might want to pool resources to get a bunch of sweet loot for something hackerspacey | 00:21 |
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| genehacker | say RFID readers and chips for an entry system | 00:23 |
| bkero | Can I claim it from Oregon? | 00:35 |
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| randallagordon | bkero, where in Oregon are you? | 02:33 |
| randallagordon | I'm in Lebanon | 02:33 |
| bkero | randallagordon: Corvallis | 02:56 |
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| genehacker | sure claim it anywhere | 04:09 |
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| Aliks | hello | 04:19 |
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| kanzure | does anyone have a favorite datasheet for an electronics part? | 08:46 |
| kanzure | someone should figure out a way to efficiently use a mechanical turk to type up electronics datasheets. $1/page maybe? | 09:08 |
| kanzure | or just parse the PDFs directly- i saw some python once that did this, but it was only for atmel.com datasheets, and it looked old/broken so it had to be updated anyway | 09:09 |
| kanzure | but if most data sheets follow the same format (from a particular supplier) then it should be possible to write up a parser | 09:09 |
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| kanzure | someone needs to pirate this: http://www.comsol.com/conference/cd/ | 09:17 |
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| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throat_singing | 09:34 |
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| KrisC | hello all | 12:06 |
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| KrisC | I | 12:18 |
| KrisC | I'm considering exploring step file format. Kanzure's dislike of meshes in lieu of solid geometry had me looking for differences | 12:20 |
| KrisC | STEPs distincion as the biggest ISO standard really turns me off. I've been worrying about material metadata in my STLs | 12:22 |
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| randallagordon | kanzure, did you see the question I asked yesterday? "is there any specific CNC and other fab equipment you're aiming to make SKDB work with? I assume the idea is to make it universal, so packages can define what equipment is necessary, but I'd also guess you have some "endorsed" equipment in mind?" | 13:57 |
| randallagordon | I'm looking to buy or build a router table, so if I can get/build something that I can use to benefit forwarding SKDB, I shall | 13:58 |
| randallagordon | Seriously considering a ShopBot at the moment | 13:59 |
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| randallagordon | Hey Aliks | 16:24 |
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| kanzure | KrisC: can you explain what's wrong with STEP? | 17:30 |
| kanzure | randallagordon: if you're going to build a router table, i suggest http://mechmate.com/ since i have one and will be able to work with it | 17:31 |
| kanzure | randallagordon: i don't have a shopbot so if you get one, i'm not going to necessarily know everything about it :) but i can make guesses | 17:32 |
| El_Matarife | Suggestion: Joe | 17:34 |
| El_Matarife | Joes' CNC is a MUCH easier first build since it requires no welding | 17:34 |
| El_Matarife | The mechmate is better for commercial use and more robust, but it does cost significantly more | 17:35 |
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| kanzure | El_Matarife: link? | 17:40 |
| El_Matarife | http://www.joescnc.com/ | 17:41 |
| El_Matarife | Maybe $2,000 or less for a full build | 17:41 |
| El_Matarife | Lots of mods and an active user community on his forum | 17:41 |
| kanzure | looks like he just offers PDF files | 17:41 |
| kanzure | for $100 USD | 17:42 |
| kanzure | wtf | 17:42 |
| kanzure | someone needs to torrent that shit | 17:42 |
| El_Matarife | The files are tagged with your name | 17:42 |
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| kanzure | El_Matarife: it's easy to remove those tags | 17:42 |
| El_Matarife | He's not making any huge amount of money, I've met the guy | 17:42 |
| kanzure | randallagordon: i highly recommend you make an open source cnc machine or router table, if anything | 17:43 |
| El_Matarife | He's just trying to offset his costs for the most part | 17:43 |
| randallagordon | I certainly intend to | 17:43 |
| kanzure | El_Matarife: although i do like that he's selling kits. good for him :) | 17:43 |
| randallagordon | I'm thinking the ShopBot provides a ready made solution, which I can then use to make parts for all the various projects that are available so I can directly weigh the pros & cons of each | 17:44 |
| El_Matarife | His first gen machine is open source now, I assume the current 4x4 hybrid will be after he finishes designing the rack & pinion 4x4 with rotary axis | 17:44 |
| randallagordon | I'd love to have several, especially for testing purposes, re: SKDB | 17:44 |
| El_Matarife | There's a lot of other commercial options, namely EZ-Router and K2 CNC | 17:44 |
| kanzure | shopbot costs a few $10k | 17:44 |
| El_Matarife | The EZ-Router guys are pretty great from what I understand | 17:44 |
| randallagordon | We're budgeting $60k for our project, so that isn't an issue | 17:44 |
| kanzure | who is we? | 17:45 |
| kanzure | is it your local hackerspace? | 17:45 |
| randallagordon | My partner...we're investigating also opening a hackerspace once we get the equipment | 17:45 |
| kanzure | okay | 17:45 |
| kanzure | well, shopbot will do the trick | 17:45 |
| randallagordon | But we're needing it for making store fixutres and POP displays | 17:45 |
| El_Matarife | I keep having to specify "my BUSINESS partner" lol | 17:45 |
| El_Matarife | saying "my partner" makes you sound gay these days | 17:46 |
| kanzure | not in here | 17:46 |
| randallagordon | So we need something that is quite mature "out of the box" since there will be non-geeks using the equipment | 17:46 |
| kanzure | randallagordon: i see. shopbot is definitely out-of-the-box | 17:46 |
| randallagordon | Myself, I'd not hesitate to start with a MechMate...if I were building it in my garage, that's exactly what I'd go for | 17:46 |
| kanzure | and i hear there's a big shopbot mod(ifier) community | 17:46 |
| randallagordon | There deifnitely is...they seem to be very OS friendly, if not directly OS | 17:47 |
| kanzure | i'd ask martyn when he shows up in here again. i'm sure he's played with a shopbot before. | 17:47 |
| kanzure | randallagordon: ted hall (founder of shopbot) is on the openmanufacturing list, by the way | 17:47 |
| randallagordon | I intend to snag the 3D scanner probe and lathe attachments as well | 17:47 |
| kanzure | and i'm sure he'd love to plug shopbot in a public discussion with you on that | 17:47 |
| randallagordon | I noticed that, I was reading through some of the ShopBot related posts on the list | 17:47 |
| kanzure | ah good | 17:47 |
| kanzure | again the only downside is that we can't put a shopbot *into* skdb | 17:48 |
| randallagordon | Having all the "extras" easily available is the big attraction at the moment | 17:48 |
| kanzure | shopbot will definitely work with skdb | 17:48 |
| kanzure | just won't have the designs "skdberized" | 17:48 |
| randallagordon | What's your opinion of their "open CNC syntax"? OpenSBP? | 17:50 |
| kanzure | haven't ever used it, sadly | 17:51 |
| randallagordon | Think that would be a good "mediator" for SKDB to use to talk to "all" CNC equipment? | 17:51 |
| kanzure | what about gcode? | 17:52 |
| randallagordon | I'm a complete CNC noob until I get my hands on some gear to toy with, so I'm just throwing stuff out there :) | 17:54 |
| kanzure | ah | 17:54 |
| kanzure | gcode has been around "forever" and is the de facto standard | 17:54 |
| kanzure | but i wouldn't mind exporting into both gcode and opensbp | 17:55 |
| randallagordon | From the few blurbs I've read on OpenSBP, it extends beyond the capabilities of gcode? | 17:55 |
| randallagordon | Aye | 17:55 |
| kanzure | nothing against it :) | 17:55 |
| kanzure | not yet, anyway :) | 17:55 |
| randallagordon | hehe, well, I'll let ya know when/if I get one ;) | 17:55 |
| kanzure | jason wohlfahrt took some photos today from our buildout at the austin hackerspace | 17:55 |
| randallagordon | We're certainly going to procure a router of some sort within the year, though | 17:56 |
| randallagordon | Nice | 17:56 |
| El_Matarife | I might have to come down to Austin to see that | 17:56 |
| kanzure | hell yes :) | 17:56 |
| kanzure | with his fancy new HD camera | 17:56 |
| El_Matarife | I was just as a user group meeting and some people were talking about how there's some scripts being written to output g-code from Blender | 17:56 |
| kanzure | don't know where he is right now, i want the photos uploaded | 17:56 |
| kanzure | El_Matarife: noooo | 17:56 |
| kanzure | blender is not a CAD tool | 17:56 |
| kanzure | but you can do STL->gcode, it's true | 17:57 |
| El_Matarife | Yeah but for 3D relief carving it seems like a good starting point | 17:57 |
| kanzure | i wish people would model in CAD and just convert to meshes later | 17:57 |
| kanzure | ok sure | 17:57 |
| kanzure | alright that's better i guess | 17:57 |
| El_Matarife | I don't want to have to go drop $2,000 on Vectric Aspire but I guess I am going to have to do it | 17:57 |
| randallagordon | Use the tool that suits what you're doing :) | 17:57 |
| kanzure | carving is a different application than what i was exdpecting | 17:57 |
| kanzure | El_Matarife: i don't think you should have to | 17:57 |
| El_Matarife | Since open source CAD / CAM is really in its infancy right now | 17:57 |
| kanzure | if you need CAM you should check out http://linuxcnc.org/ | 17:58 |
| El_Matarife | Yeah that's great and all for running a machine | 17:58 |
| kanzure | i think it has some mesh->gcode software too? | 17:58 |
| El_Matarife | But not making the G-code to run a machine | 17:58 |
| kanzure | you sure? | 17:58 |
| El_Matarife | Yeah there's a few open source solutions but the closed proprietary market is really still ahead | 17:58 |
| kanzure | hm.. i need to get an skdb package going for 80-20 | 17:58 |
| randallagordon | 80-20? T-slot? | 17:59 |
| * kanzure nods | 17:59 | |
| kanzure | that's what cubespawn is done out of | 17:59 |
| randallagordon | Right...I need to look more closely at cubespawn | 18:00 |
| El_Matarife | That's good stuff | 18:00 |
| El_Matarife | we're using it for our machine | 18:00 |
| El_Matarife | And I saw some videos of an SUV sitting on some | 18:00 |
| kanzure | http://cubespawn.com/ | 18:00 |
| El_Matarife | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztDoZ4VMhpA | 18:02 |
| El_Matarife | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQMcPijGnnA | 18:02 |
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| randallagordon | hah, nice | 18:05 |
| El_Matarife | I'm 99% sure you could build a shed with the stuff | 18:06 |
| randallagordon | Shouldn't be difficult...just spendy :) | 18:06 |
| El_Matarife | You'd be surprised how cheap it is | 18:07 |
| El_Matarife | Especially when they have refurb sales on eBay | 18:07 |
| randallagordon | Compared to 2x4s? | 18:07 |
| El_Matarife | Well, no because 2x4s cost roughly what a big mac costs each :P | 18:07 |
| randallagordon | ...salvage is another story, I suppose | 18:07 |
| randallagordon | Or, my favorite, cider blocks and PVC | 18:07 |
| El_Matarife | I was at my Home Depot the other day and they had 2x4s for like $3.64 each on 8 or 10 foot lengths | 18:08 |
| El_Matarife | You can't buy LUNCH for that these days | 18:08 |
| randallagordon | Hrmmm...8' here is like $1.88 last I checked, but that was over the summer | 18:08 |
| randallagordon | ...and grade makes a huge difference | 18:08 |
| El_Matarife | Yeah I meant its crazy cheap | 18:08 |
| randallagordon | lumber prices are insanely unstable :) | 18:08 |
| El_Matarife | Also reminds me of a joke during this workshop I went to, someone was up front giving a presentation about how to reorder the cuts in back and some wise ass said "But MDF doesn't have grain" and the hobbyist half of the room DIED laughing | 18:09 |
| kanzure | there hasn't been a good hurricane in a while | 18:09 |
| kanzure | so lumber is cheap for now | 18:09 |
| El_Matarife | Thank god, if you've ever done hurricane cleanup | 18:09 |
| El_Matarife | My partner has grandparents in Jasper TX, he went down to help out after a hurricane and he describes it as one of the worst experiences of his life | 18:10 |
| El_Matarife | Also, another cool thing I heard recently | 18:13 |
| El_Matarife | I went to the woodworking show and one of our local guys has been talking to a sales rep for a Chinese laser manufacturer | 18:13 |
| randallagordon | Are there any mature OS inkjet printer projects that anyone is aware of? Like, say, a MechMate attachment? Everything I'm searching for leads me to POSAM, which, is badass in its own right, but...not what I'm looking for :P | 18:13 |
| El_Matarife | He thinks they could sell industrial lasers in the 45 watt range for $800 to retrofit your existing gantry machines | 18:14 |
| El_Matarife | I told them to sign me up and I'd be the first customer | 18:14 |
| El_Matarife | I don't know about printer heads for a gantry, but you CAN do a plotter bit for your router / spindle | 18:14 |
| randallagordon | The other piece of equipment we're looking at is a Roland SOLJET: http://rolanddga.com/products/printcut/xc540MT/ | 18:15 |
| El_Matarife | http://www.widgetworksunlimited.com/CNC_Plotter_Pen_Bit_p/cnc-pltr_pen_thin.htm | 18:15 |
| randallagordon | I'd love to have 5-axis control of a print head, though...direct print to damn near anything...yummy | 18:15 |
| El_Matarife | Yeah that's pretty nice | 18:16 |
| El_Matarife | I'm hoping someone designs and makes a nice articulated arm for existing gantry machines | 18:16 |
| El_Matarife | The way I look at it, design something open source style, ship it off to China for cheap manufacturing and sell a bulk order of like a container full for like $1000ish a pop to everyone with an existing machine | 18:17 |
| El_Matarife | But there's kind of a chicken and egg effect, there isn't much 5 axis software for the hobbyist market thus far, but that's because there's no hobbyist level 5 axis gear | 18:18 |
| randallagordon | I'm game to write the code | 18:18 |
| El_Matarife | And no one wants to make a hobbyist level 5 axis machine cause there's no software for it | 18:18 |
| randallagordon | I just need cashflow...hence, initial investment in mature equipment to procure said cashflow | 18:18 |
| El_Matarife | I assume you could just fit an airbrush with a really small diameter head to a gantry machine as well | 18:18 |
| randallagordon | Then I'm freed up to do create the tools I need, but don't have | 18:19 |
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| kanzure | hey Aliks | 18:19 |
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| randallagordon | I'm psychotic enough to crack open a $40k printer and retrofit it ;) | 18:19 |
| kanzure | bah | 18:19 |
| randallagordon | Well Aliks didn't stay long, heh | 18:20 |
| randallagordon | kanzure, bah? | 18:20 |
| kanzure | randallagordon: at aliks leaving | 18:22 |
| randallagordon | oh...hah, somehow I thought El_Matarife had said hey to Aliks | 18:22 |
| * randallagordon has a broken brain | 18:22 | |
| El_Matarife | Nope | 18:22 |
| El_Matarife | Randall, where are you located exactly | 18:22 |
| kanzure | fenn: doesn't emc do 5-axis? | 18:24 |
| randallagordon | exactly...44.48678, -122.86679 | 18:25 |
| randallagordon | at somewhere around 200' altitude... ;) | 18:26 |
| randallagordon | Sodaville/Lebanon, Oregon for those who don't want to whip out a mapping tool | 18:26 |
| kanzure | i keep on thinking you're in lebanon proper | 18:27 |
| kanzure | so i've spaced you away in the "located in weird ass locations" | 18:27 |
| kanzure | er *weird ass locations category | 18:27 |
| randallagordon | heh, well, my address is Lebanon, 97355 | 18:27 |
| randallagordon | Sodaville is less than a town nowadays *tear* | 18:28 |
| kanzure | (the country) | 18:28 |
| randallagordon | Oh, lol | 18:28 |
| randallagordon | No...not that Lebanon | 18:28 |
| El_Matarife | I have no clue where those are | 18:28 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon | 18:28 |
| randallagordon | If you know where Corvallis is, the home of OSU, then you're close enough | 18:28 |
| randallagordon | I'm on the other side of the valley, half an hour away | 18:28 |
| fenn | yes emc does up to 9 axes, but objects can only move in 6 DOF in physical space anyway, so.. | 18:30 |
| fenn | actually you can change MAX_AXES to whatever, in the code | 18:30 |
| kanzure | jerry rutherford has a full machine shop up in missouri that he wants me to go get wit him later this month | 18:32 |
| kanzure | *with | 18:33 |
| kanzure | fenn: martin has a low opinion of emc, when he's in person | 18:33 |
| kanzure | dunno | 18:33 |
| kanzure | apparently he had a bad experience once and had to throw on a lot of optical encoders to get any good performance out of it | 18:34 |
| kanzure | can't get this song out of my head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvMmlLlF7mA | 18:40 |
| randallagordon | Not bad | 18:55 |
| randallagordon | Although the chosen illustration immediately made me think of One Week..."Gotta get in tune with Sailor Moon, cuz that cartoon's got those boom anime babes, that make me think the wrong thing." | 18:56 |
| kanzure | it's true, i'm an anime freak. hell even my dad knew the sailor moon theme. | 18:59 |
| randallagordon | This would be one of the tracks I can't get out of my head: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXBdibTNy08 | 18:59 |
| randallagordon | I dig anime, too, don't get me wrong :) | 18:59 |
| randallagordon | Just trigged that thought...I've had Barenaked Ladies on the mind lately (take that as you will) | 19:00 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/music/anime | 19:00 |
| randallagordon | Nice | 19:00 |
| kanzure | see parent directory too to further invade my privacy (i kid, i kid) | 19:00 |
| randallagordon | I need to bolster my j-pop and chiptunes libraries...finally got control vinyl to use with my Technics and Traktor...would be fun to spin chiptunes :D | 19:01 |
| * randallagordon invades | 19:01 | |
| randallagordon | What? The .hack//SIGN theme isn't on your list? :P | 19:02 |
| * randallagordon can't remember the name of it or the name of the artist off the top of his head...Seesaw? | 19:02 | |
| kanzure | seesaw was the name of the theme to one of the later gundam animes | 19:02 |
| kanzure | oh that was the band | 19:03 |
| kanzure | okay maybe it's the same band | 19:03 |
| randallagordon | Yeah, they're quite popular | 19:04 |
| randallagordon | And have made music for several series | 19:04 |
| * randallagordon is scouring his library...one sec | 19:05 | |
| randallagordon | Actually, Seesaw has several songs that are used in .hack | 19:05 |
| randallagordon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8oC-gewurY | 19:08 |
| randallagordon | That's a horrible capture...but...'tis Youtube, what can you expect? | 19:09 |
| randallagordon | Sounds like there's some clipping in the recording :/ | 19:10 |
| randallagordon | ...X10 is the ultimate love/hate relationship...ugh | 19:12 |
| * randallagordon throws things at his X10 controller | 19:12 | |
| * randallagordon needs to find a CM11A and forget about it | 19:14 | |
| fenn | El_Matarife: there's some open source CAM here but no 5-axis afaik: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Cam | 19:18 |
| fenn | doesn't mean a 5 axis machine is useless though | 19:19 |
| fenn | oh.. i think APT might do 5 axis actually | 19:19 |
| fenn | kanzure: "had to throw on a lot of optical encoders" doesn't make sense | 19:20 |
| fenn | was he doing lathe threading? | 19:20 |
| randallagordon | Hah, I must build one...I've got all the parts laying about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z86V_ICUCD4 | 19:24 |
| randallagordon | (I'd guess most of us in here have the parts laying about...) | 19:24 |
| kanzure | fenn: yes he was making threads | 19:24 |
| fenn | ah. he just had unrealistic expectations then | 19:25 |
| fenn | i mean that literally | 19:25 |
| fenn | turbocnc lets you turn threads with a 1 pulse/rev encoder, which just doesn't work so well | 19:25 |
| kanzure | it sounded like he was doing more than 1 pulse/rev | 19:26 |
| fenn | you can do it in emc but it's discouraged so it takes some effort to set up (i.e. not a pre-configured option) | 19:26 |
| fenn | then i dunno what the problem was | 19:26 |
| kanzure | anyway it's worth asking him i guess | 19:26 |
| kanzure | but i don't know if he will ever come back in here. i think he hates me. | 19:26 |
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| fenn | my grandma was watching c-span and rob carlson was on there, along with dean kamen and some other big names | 19:33 |
| kanzure | your grandma spotted rob carlson by face? | 19:33 |
| kanzure | that's one hot ma | 19:34 |
| fenn | no, she just thought it was interesting and wrote down the names | 19:34 |
| randallagordon | "With the VersaUV, you can print a single membrane panel or several." Okay, I want one: http://www.rolanddga.com/products/printcut/lec300/features.asp | 19:35 |
| kanzure | fenn: still, that's pretty cool :) give her a cookie | 19:35 |
| randallagordon | If I get one, membrane panels for channel members, at cost! ;) | 19:36 |
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| randallagordon | I'm actually trying to get on a list of atendees for a workshop that Roland is putting on for that thing at a local sign materials & equipment supplier...its ability to print textures is highly intriguing, I wan to see it in action | 19:39 |
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| kanzure | hello Exitil | 19:45 |
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| kanzure | aliks3: do you know exitil? | 19:46 |
| kanzure | he seems to have your IP address | 19:46 |
| Exitil | lol | 19:48 |
| Exitil | I guess I have both computers signed on | 19:49 |
| Exitil | this is my netbook | 19:49 |
| Exitil | Aliks is my larger laptop | 19:49 |
| kanzure | you can share an IRC session across multiple computers | 19:50 |
| kanzure | use 'screen' | 19:50 |
| Exitil | i dont understand "screen" | 19:52 |
| * randallagordon needs to get another box built so he doesn't have to virtualize his Linux experience...then 'screen' will be highly useful | 19:52 | |
| kanzure | Exitil: it's a program | 19:54 |
| randallagordon | it multiplexes your terminal experience | 19:54 |
| kanzure | was before the time of the internet i think.. or they just decided to name it 'screen' because they're masochists? | 19:54 |
| Exitil | sounds like speaking broken english lol | 19:55 |
| Exitil | "use screen!" "no no, you must use screen!" | 19:55 |
| Exitil | (in Russian accent) | 19:55 |
| kanzure | everything is better with a russian accent | 19:56 |
| randallagordon | lol | 19:56 |
| randallagordon | "in Mother Russia, screen wears you!" | 19:57 |
| kanzure | oh crap, i'm being multiplexed! | 19:58 |
| randallagordon | mmm, multiplextacular | 20:05 |
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| Exitil | Russian women man... | 20:16 |
| randallagordon | Wow...that's an interesting statement when read as "Russian woman man..." | 20:35 |
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| genehacker | hackerspace meeting status? | 21:04 |
| kanzure | went great | 21:06 |
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| kanzure | jerry's milling machine http://www.youngengsales.com/Index550.jpg | 21:15 |
| QuantumG | "Note that the concept of unwinding has been successfully employed in the case of smectic liquid crystals by confinement within treated glass plates. This surface-stabilized ferroelectric liquid crystal technology (SSFLC) has become the basis for the flat-screen television industry and display screens in cameras." | 21:16 |
| QuantumG | uh.. huh | 21:16 |
| ybit | "Bryan: Anytime I do head out there it should be no big deal to pick you up..." | 21:18 |
| ybit | wow, that guy has a lot of confidence | 21:18 |
| kanzure | i live 0.5mi from the shop so he has a pretty good idea of where i live | 21:19 |
| ybit | it was joke lost in translation | 21:27 |
| kanzure | hm another popular query | 21:37 |
| kanzure | "floor space required for automated line in clinical lab" | 21:37 |
| QuantumG | I found some warehouse space for $1k/month without really trying today. That's (painfully) within my budget. I wonder if there's cheaper places available. I'm yet to get a feel for whether or not my desirable location (far away from residential zoning) makes the price go up. | 21:40 |
| QuantumG | and I'd rather be spending the money on hardware.. so I won't be interested until I run out of free space to make lots of noise.. or some other justification comes along. | 21:41 |
| * randallagordon enjoys living in the country where he can make as much noise as he likes... | 21:45 | |
| QuantumG | how far away is your closest neighbor? | 21:45 |
| randallagordon | fairly close...like 1000'...but he's a machinest and doesn't give a damn, so long as it isn't 3am ;) | 21:46 |
| QuantumG | my wife's grandparents have a farm | 21:47 |
| QuantumG | I intend to hit them up for space | 21:47 |
| randallagordon | Nice | 21:47 |
| QuantumG | their neighbor builds helicopters | 21:47 |
| QuantumG | .. so I'll be having a chat with him too :) | 21:47 |
| randallagordon | very nice :) | 21:48 |
| randallagordon | Where are you located? I'm out in Oregon | 21:48 |
| QuantumG | I'm in Australia. | 21:48 |
| QuantumG | Brisbane. | 21:48 |
| randallagordon | Oh yeah, that's right | 21:48 |
| QuantumG | and yeah, it's not just noise.. it's also safety. | 21:51 |
| * bkero watches firefly | 22:31 | |
| bkero | Oregon is the place to be. | 22:32 |
| * bkero drove through lebanon today | 22:32 | |
| Trooem | anybody in California? | 22:36 |
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| kanzure | Trooem: yes | 22:39 |
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| QuantumG | http://designfiles.org/papers/Sonoluminescence%20as%20quantum%20vacuum%20radiation.pdf | 23:19 |
| QuantumG | http://designfiles.org/papers/A%20magneto-electric%20quantum%20wheel.pdf | 23:20 |
| QuantumG | I wonder if a link could be made | 23:20 |
| QuantumG | say, what happens if you use a magnetoelectric gas to do sonoluminescence? | 23:22 |
| Trooem | kanzure, you moved to Cali?! | 23:22 |
| Trooem | oh nvm | 23:23 |
| * Trooem is doing alright. | 23:45 | |
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