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| QuantumG | http://quantumg.net/biohacking/ | 00:11 |
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| ybit | open source ecology makes no sense | 00:13 |
| ybit | they don't study where organisms occur, how many, and where | 00:15 |
| ybit | how organisms occur* | 00:15 |
| ybit | which is the definition i get from reading references on ecology | 00:16 |
| ybit | maybe it should be the study of human ecology in an open system? | 00:16 |
| ybit | or just open systems | 00:17 |
| ybit | leaving out the confusing term ecology | 00:17 |
| ybit | Ecology is not synonymous with environment, environmentalism, or environmental science.[1][2][3] | 00:18 |
| ybit | which is what i gather their group is trying to go for | 00:18 |
| ybit | "In science and engineering, a system is the part of the universe that is being studied, while the environment is the remainder of the universe that lies outside the boundaries of the system." | 00:19 |
| ybit | Open Systems makes more sense, imho | 00:19 |
| QuantumG | "open source ecology" is a buzz word for different synergies that naturally occur between open source projects. | 00:19 |
| QuantumG | for example, LAMP | 00:19 |
| ybit | why do they call it buzz word even when it is clearly a phrase :P | 00:23 |
| QuantumG | linguists would call it a word | 00:23 |
| QuantumG | and put dashes between it :) | 00:23 |
| ybit | s/do they call/is it called | 00:24 |
| QuantumG | or use camel case | 00:24 |
| ybit | hehe | 00:24 |
| ybit | where was the first usage of open source ecology, i can only fin it listed on marcin's site | 00:25 |
| ybit | thus i'm doubting it's a buzz word | 00:25 |
| ybit | http://journalwatch.conservationmagazine.org/2009/03/09/open-source-ecology/ is the only other place which uses it while not referencing the factor-e-farm project | 00:26 |
| QuantumG | try "open source ecosystem" | 00:27 |
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| ybit | hi Aliks and Phreedom | 00:30 |
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| Phreedom | hi | 00:32 |
| ybit | see PM | 00:32 |
| * chupacabra hates buzz speak | 01:09 | |
| ybit | kanzure: has mtich got back with you yet, have you even mentioned files to him? | 01:22 |
| ybit | s/mtich/mitch | 01:23 |
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| flamt | ok still two things hi it's flamoot and brb but | 05:03 |
| flamt | http://m-net.arbornet.org/~flamoot/telepathic-critterdrug.html new linux app | 05:03 |
| flamt | http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/188096829 thread about it and brain implants | 05:03 |
| flamt | plz your help getting the thread on 4chan archive | 05:03 |
| flamt | http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/main.php?mode=submit | 05:03 |
| flamt | id 188096829 | 05:03 |
| flamt | ilu | 05:03 |
| bkero | no 4chans | 05:44 |
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| kanzure | ybit: no, mitch has not | 09:49 |
| kanzure | i will call him today | 09:49 |
| kanzure | but i did send a follow-up email | 10:00 |
| kanzure | fenn: your method doesn't help me figure out future possibilities. unfortunately neither does the literature have any "big ideas" or "far out predictions" | 10:15 |
| kanzure | re: http://quantumg.net/biohacking/ we should probably tell trent about the in vivo "writozyme" | 10:16 |
| kanzure | *writozyme idea | 10:16 |
| kanzure | heh jason was going to buy a simon quellen field book | 10:18 |
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| kanzure | hey wtf? | 10:30 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SKDB | 10:30 |
| kanzure | wonder who "Kozuch" is | 10:31 |
| kanzure | wtf how does [[OpenCASCADE]] not exist? | 10:32 |
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| kanzure | http://apps.pumpingstationone.org/hacker-space-map/ | 11:13 |
| kanzure | http://instructablesrestaurant.com/ | 11:15 |
| kanzure | "Instructables Restaurant is the first open source restaurant in the world. Everything you see, use and eat is downloaded from instructables.com. It's an experiment in internet digestion, combining free culture with food concepts." | 11:15 |
| kanzure | weird how they don't have their address plastered on their front page | 11:16 |
| kanzure | http://linossgov.blogspot.com/2010/01/giving-it-away-making-money-2008.html meh but ends up talking about marcin's work | 11:27 |
| kanzure | an old but lengthy email on "open product development" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/globalvillages/message/3296 | 11:28 |
| kanzure | hm there's actually still activity on that mailing list | 11:28 |
| kanzure | according to denis bonnenfant, solidworks 2009 runs under wine with these winetricks: vcrun2005, ie6, gdiplus | 11:33 |
| kanzure | wow | 12:26 |
| kanzure | Jeffrey Barrick is speaking at 1:30pm today at welch on his 20-year e.coli experiment | 12:26 |
| kanzure | don't think i can get there in time | 12:27 |
| kanzure | cool an aptamer synthesis service http://www.aptagen.com/default.asp | 12:28 |
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| kanzure | hey Aliks | 12:33 |
| kanzure | some notes on the .sldprt file format: http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing/browse_thread/thread/16fd8ebe6c677f2c | 12:36 |
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| kanzure | https://octopart.com/tools/companytools/feedformat | 12:43 |
| kanzure | andres is asking for a manufacturer website crawler that dumps products into that URL | 12:44 |
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| kanzure | beep | 16:24 |
| kanzure | i'm sitting next to "dub taylor". random people to be with. | 16:24 |
| genehacker | who's dub taylor? | 16:25 |
| genehacker | oh | 16:25 |
| genehacker | where are you? | 16:25 |
| genehacker | I'm confused | 16:26 |
| genehacker | http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/tnames-nf/Taylor+Dub | 16:27 |
| QuantumG | http://fatpita.net/?i=1952 | 16:40 |
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| kanzure | hey thesnark | 17:39 |
| thesnark | hello | 17:42 |
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| kanzure | "want an open hardware store?" http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/1548583896.html | 18:09 |
| kanzure | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1ygHzt86Ow an open hardware video synthesis platform | 18:09 |
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| kanzure | i wonder what's going on here: | 18:14 |
| kanzure | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/holistichelping/message/4594 | 18:14 |
| kanzure | (in particular look at the forwarded message) | 18:14 |
| kanzure | something about openkollab for sure | 18:14 |
| kanzure | but "open manufacturing ecosystem" what? | 18:14 |
| QuantumG | ecosystem is non-nerd-friendly way of saying "toolchain" | 18:16 |
| kanzure | *oh* | 18:16 |
| kanzure | thanks for translating (seriously) | 18:16 |
| QuantumG | yeah, pundits have been using it for a year or two | 18:16 |
| kanzure | did anyone check out the "open source resturant" i linked to earlier today? any thoughts / complaints | 18:17 |
| kanzure | QuantumG: that's pretty confusing, especially with all the greentech buzzlingo | 18:17 |
| kanzure | nokia n93 shanzhai phone http://www.technowae.com/2010/01/nokia-n93-shanzhai-made-phones/ | 18:18 |
| genehacker | mind sending out the link again, I resurrected my computer from the dead earlier | 18:19 |
| kanzure | http://shanzaiindia.blogspot.com/2010/01/india-next-breeding-ground-for-shanzhai.html | 18:19 |
| kanzure | genehacker: http://instructablesrestuarant.com/ | 18:19 |
| genehacker | it's broken, but I'll google for it | 18:20 |
| kanzure | stalk: Boyd R. Jones (boydjones) "North American dude who speaks Chinese and does tech stuff." | 18:20 |
| kanzure | my bad on the spelling | 18:20 |
| kanzure | genehacker: http://instructablesrestaurant.com/ is the right spelling | 18:20 |
| genehacker | wow | 18:21 |
| genehacker | that's pretty cool | 18:21 |
| kanzure | "Hacklab.to's laser-cutter really *does* play the Mario Bros theme! ..." | 18:25 |
| kanzure | alt.bio.hackers | 18:29 |
| genehacker | but is it opensource? | 18:29 |
| genehacker | usenet still exist? | 18:29 |
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| genehacker | looks it was just a group of computer crackers | 18:37 |
| genehacker | oh wait maybe not | 18:37 |
| kanzure | from adafruit: http://blog.open-embedded.info/2009/04/open-source-hardware-overview-slides.html | 18:45 |
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| kanzure | is this any good? "Sequential formation of ion pairs during activation of a sodium channel voltage sensor" | 20:06 |
| kanzure | heh http://hackaday.com/2010/01/12/how-to-make-a-printable-ces-badge/ | 20:07 |
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| cyrozap | having a MakerBot does have its advantages | 20:51 |
| kristianpaul | wich ones? | 21:01 |
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| genehacker | well you could make the mendel printed parts pretty easily | 21:24 |
| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 21:34 |
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| kanzure | hello JayDugger | 21:47 |
| JayDugger | Good evening, kanzure. | 21:47 |
| kanzure | fenn: welcome back to the land of the living | 21:47 |
| kanzure | matt has two new labrats that have been moving stuff around and causing havoc | 21:47 |
| kanzure | stephen and chico | 21:48 |
| JayDugger | Fenn, do you plan to attend the upcoming Foresight Gathering? | 21:48 |
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| kanzure | hello thesnark. i think i was supposed to talk with you about something today? | 22:24 |
| thesnark | kanzure yeah but in like 10 minutes, I'm doing some other stuff atm | 22:24 |
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