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| bkero | WTF | 01:55 |
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| bkero | Hudson explains that certain creatures are evolved to sense and manipulate mass effect much like some real-life creatures such as sharks and electric eels can sense and manipulate electromagnetism in peculiar ways. Some humans are preternaturally capable of these abilities, which can be enhanced via implants, and the trained manipulation of Mass Effect is referred to as biotics. | 01:55 |
| bkero | kanzure: confirm/deny | 01:55 |
| bkero | lol | 01:56 |
| bkero | Strange. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroreception | 01:57 |
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| QuantumG | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gquery/?term=Electroreception | 02:12 |
| QuantumG | enjoy | 02:12 |
| bkero | kristianpaul: Are you involved with the Ben Nanonote? | 02:25 |
| bkero | QuantumG: <3 | 02:26 |
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| fenn | bkero: sure you just need a high enough concentration of element zero and send an electric current through it to create the mass effect | 06:16 |
| fenn | btw bkero you may want to look up the forward mass detector, which operates on the basis of gravity waves | 06:16 |
| fenn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_mass_detector#Forward_Mass_Detector | 06:18 |
| fenn | i thought this was cool too: http://www.neurotraces.com/InPractice/sounds00/node6.html | 06:21 |
| fenn | funny that his name is hudson, reminds me of david hudson/orme/monoatomic white gold fiasco | 06:54 |
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| nmz787 | anyone awake and not busy? | 08:53 |
| kanzure | no | 09:22 |
| kanzure | hm is there a .deb for python-ogre? the wiki says yes but for the life of me i can't google it from the voids | 09:23 |
| jdugger | https://launchpad.net/~mithro/+archive/ppa | 09:34 |
| jdugger | Supposedly include a deb for python-ogre. YMMV. | 09:35 |
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| kanzure | pycollada http://collada.in4lines.com/ | 10:36 |
| kanzure | hm someone wants me to do a guest lecture at rutgers university | 10:45 |
| kanzure | on open source hardware | 10:46 |
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| Utopiah | nice | 11:02 |
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| bkero | Sweet | 12:02 |
| ybit | http://www.technologyreview.com/printer_friendly_article.aspx?id=22113&channel=specialsections§ion=tr10 :: "George Whitesides has created a cheap, easy-to-use diagnostic test out of paper.George Whitesides has created a cheap, easy-to-use diagnostic test out of paper. | 12:17 |
| ybit | www.hbs.edu/units/tom/docs/Team%2010_whitesidespaper.ppt | 12:17 |
| ybit | http://dfa.org/resources/scientific.papers/bruzewicz.lowcost_2008.pdf | 12:17 |
| ybit | http://video.ted.com/talks/podcast/GeorgeWhitesides_2009X.mp4 | 12:18 |
| ybit | http://www.dfa.org/resources/scientific.papers/martinez.3d.microfluidoc_2008.pdf | 12:19 |
| ybit | http://designfiles.org/papers/unsorted/Simple%20Telemedicine%20for%20Developing%20Regions:%20Camera%20Phones%20and%20Paper-Based%20Microfluidic%20Devices%20for%20Real-Time,%20Off-Site%20Diagnosis.pdf | 12:27 |
| ybit | http://designfiles.org/papers/unsorted/Three-dimensional%20microfluidic%20devices%20fabricated%20in%20layered%20paper%20and%20tape.pdf | 12:44 |
| ybit | http://designfiles.org/papers/unsorted/FLASH%20-%20A%20rapid%20method%20for%20prototyping%20paper-based%20microfluidic%20devices.pdf | 12:48 |
| ybit | hrm, my uni started blocking me from accessing their lame excuse for journal access | 13:05 |
| ybit | kanzure: for how long can you continue accessing papers with uta if you aren't attending? | 13:06 |
| kanzure | :) | 13:12 |
| kanzure | i'm still able to access with my ut authorization/login | 13:12 |
| kanzure | but even if i'm not, designfiles.org is still on the ut network | 13:13 |
| ybit | http://designfiles.org/papers/unsorted/Diagnostics%20for%20the%20Developing%20World%20-%20Microfluidic%20Paper-Based%20Analytical%20Devices.pdf | 13:13 |
| ybit | http://designfiles.org/papers/unsorted/Bioactive%20paper%20provides%20a%20low-cost%20platform%20for%20diagnostics.pdf | 13:13 |
| ybit | and that's all for the Whiteside stuff | 13:13 |
| kanzure | hm | 13:13 |
| ybit | there's more | 13:13 |
| kanzure | you may be interested in this: http://designfiles.org/papers/whitesides/ | 13:14 |
| kanzure | feel free to move whitesides into there | 13:14 |
| ybit | alright | 13:14 |
| ybit | permission denied | 13:14 |
| ybit | kanzure: ping | 13:16 |
| kanzure | try now? | 13:23 |
| kanzure | ybit: sorry :( | 13:23 |
| ybit | okay done | 13:26 |
| kanzure | hm: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/02/03/1722200/Next-X-Prize-mdash-10M-For-a-Brain-Computer-Interface?art_pos=3 | 13:26 |
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| ybit | yeah, that was in some email | 13:28 |
| kanzure | http://www.xprize.org/media-center/features/bci-x-prize-igniting-a-brain-computer-interface-revolution | 13:29 |
| kanzure | http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/21/igniting-a-brain-computer-interface-revolution-bci-x-prize/ | 13:29 |
| ybit | i listened to ray's video while resting sometime last week | 13:29 |
| kanzure | "It's like offering $10 million for a cure for cancer." | 13:29 |
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| ybit | oi genehacker | 13:30 |
| ybit | bastard | 13:30 |
| ybit | :P | 13:30 |
| genehacker | what? | 13:30 |
| genehacker | computer is acting quite weird | 13:30 |
| ybit | genehacker: i just recalled you didn't get your arse over to kanzure and fenn's apartment while i was visiting | 13:30 |
| genehacker | when was that? | 13:30 |
| ybit | december | 13:31 |
| genehacker | oh | 13:31 |
| ybit | it was one day event | 13:31 |
| genehacker | I was back in plano or had finals that week | 13:31 |
| genehacker | when you were visiting | 13:31 |
| genehacker | sorry | 13:31 |
| ybit | lame :) | 13:31 |
| genehacker | hmmmm... | 13:32 |
| ybit | genehacker: http://designfiles.org/papers/whitesides/ | 13:32 |
| ybit | and http://video.ted.com/talks/podcast/GeorgeWhitesides_2009X.mp4 | 13:32 |
| genehacker | now I wonder if winblows 7 will install over my linux partition | 13:32 |
| genehacker | that's lame | 13:33 |
| genehacker | you can't make microchemical factories out of paper | 13:33 |
| genehacker | cool though | 13:33 |
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| genehacker | hmmm... they're using wax printers | 13:41 |
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| ybit | i'm only finding a paper from acs that was published in 2005 | 14:19 |
| ybit | http://news.discovery.com/tech/tobacco-plants-solar-cells.html | 14:19 |
| ybit | http://wasabi.cchem.berkeley.edu//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=55&Itemid=46 | 14:21 |
| ybit | aha | 14:23 |
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| ybit | http://designfiles.org/papers/unsorted/Nanoscale%20Protein%20Assemblies%20from%20a%20Circular%20Permutant%20of%20the%20Tobacco%20Mosaic%20Virus.pdf | 14:27 |
| kanzure | ybit: maybe you should stop using 'unsorted' | 14:31 |
| kanzure | you seem to properly name the files :p | 14:31 |
| kanzure | "properly" | 14:31 |
| kanzure | hm we should probably draft some standard interconnectivity specs for BCIs while we're all in here | 14:34 |
| ybit | i'd like to eventually sort the papers by subject | 14:35 |
| ybit | or have some type of sorting algo based on what wn deems is related | 14:35 |
| kanzure | wordnet sucks for relatedness, i've learned | 14:36 |
| kanzure | hypernyms just aren't good enough :( | 14:36 |
| ybit | hrm, well something needs to do the job of sorting | 14:37 |
| ybit | not a human brain plz | 14:37 |
| ybit | and some way of automatically fetching all related papers after reading an email on a subject, it takes too long for me to do it | 14:38 |
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| ybit | hi zancas | 14:39 |
| ybit | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3899 :: hackbar :: Simple security audit / Penetration test tool. | 14:47 |
| ybit | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7597 :: "SQL Inject-Me is Firefox Extension used to test for SQL Injection vulnerabilities." | 14:48 |
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| ybit | of course there's other tools for this, but it's interesting to see firefox add-ons for it | 14:58 |
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| genehacker | ybit is that the tobacco mosaic solar cell thing? | 15:25 |
| ybit | yes | 15:25 |
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| kanzure | interesting.. all of the contract lawyers i talk with already know the name of the guy i'm going to be working for. O_o | 15:48 |
| kanzure | is this good or bad? | 15:48 |
| ybit | ask them | 15:52 |
| ybit | but keep in mind how they make money too :) | 15:53 |
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| kanzure | genehacker: RLM floor 2 is flooded with gas :/ | 16:04 |
| genehacker | WHAT? | 16:04 |
| ybit | someone had too much fiber | 16:04 |
| genehacker | we have a magnesium fire in ETC and now this? | 16:05 |
| genehacker | whoa WTF | 16:05 |
| genehacker | that's bad | 16:05 |
| genehacker | that's like the floor the laser's on | 16:05 |
| katsmeow-afk | fiber generates methane now? | 16:05 |
| genehacker | what type of gas? | 16:05 |
| kanzure | dnno | 16:06 |
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| genehacker | how do you know this? | 16:06 |
| genehacker | you don't go here anymore | 16:06 |
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| genehacker | really is there some sort of alert system I'm not subscribed to or something | 16:08 |
| genehacker | seriously we've had emergencies every day this week | 16:11 |
| kanzure | i get safety alerts from utsafetyalert@austin.utexas.edu | 16:12 |
| kanzure | and it's PGP signed, so i guess i should check the signature | 16:12 |
| kanzure | but i'm pretty sure it's legit | 16:12 |
| kanzure | unless someone /really/ doesn't want me in RLM today | 16:12 |
| genehacker | had a fire drill on monday, a magnesium fire in the ETC, and siren test today in the cafeteria | 16:12 |
| kanzure | they always do siren tests on the first wednesday of the month | 16:13 |
| kanzure | there's a pattern | 16:13 |
| genehacker | yeah I knew that | 16:13 |
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| genehacker | damn hope the laser and laser people are ok | 16:16 |
| kanzure | banking fraud? http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1536056&cid=31015620 not sure how to actually extract the money | 16:18 |
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| kanzure | http://lwn.net/Articles/372419/ android and the linux kernel community | 16:21 |
| kanzure | ugh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_hacking_incident | 16:32 |
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| genehacker | seems to me like a petty little hack that's been vastly overblown | 16:35 |
| genehacker | but I for one think the best approach to climate change might be geoengineering at this point... | 16:38 |
| kanzure | a lot of people ignore geoengineering for some reason | 16:43 |
| kanzure | or terraforming | 16:43 |
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| ybit | biological cybnertics papers dump please | 16:48 |
| * ybit slaps hplusbot | 16:48 | |
| kanzure | cybnertics huh | 16:50 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/books/Biology/neuro/ | 16:50 |
| kanzure | http://heybryan.org/books/papers/neuro/ | 16:50 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/papers/neuro/ | 16:50 |
| ybit | i just ran a simulation in pybrainsim which is modeled after http://www.springerlink.com/content/j352u522l650pq22/ | 16:51 |
| ybit | i keep grabbing papers from it, might as well do what you did with nature | 16:51 |
| kanzure | rape them? | 16:51 |
| ybit | yep | 16:51 |
| ybit | it's kind of neat to see that the nautre dump was 66gb | 16:52 |
| kanzure | hm i thought it was 40something GB | 16:52 |
| ybit | that's a lot of text | 16:52 |
| kanzure | well a lot of the old shit is just images | 16:52 |
| ybit | the tarball is 34G, its contents is 66G | 16:53 |
| ybit | wait | 16:53 |
| ybit | 35G | 16:54 |
| kanzure | huh. | 16:54 |
| ybit | heh, i had tossed the nature.tar into the folder before checking its size | 16:55 |
| ybit | i need mice to experiment with | 16:55 |
| kanzure | i can get you some | 16:55 |
| kanzure | how many do you want | 16:56 |
| ybit | awesome, for how much? | 16:56 |
| kanzure | i can only give you a minimum of 4 | 16:56 |
| kanzure | um, not sure. i think it should be under $100 though | 16:56 |
| ybit | i wouldn't want less | 16:56 |
| kanzure | they are very social :) | 16:56 |
| ybit | i'll hit you up in a couple of months when i'm settled into my r.v. | 16:57 |
| ybit | anyone in here with a PS3? | 17:02 |
| ybit | http://sourceforge.net/projects/bdv-cell/ | 17:02 |
| ybit | that's optimized to run on ps3 | 17:02 |
| ybit | http://ybit.ath.cx/text/Design_of_Machine_Elements.pdf | 17:04 |
| ybit | http://ybit.ath.cx/text/The_Book_of_Genesis_-_Exploring_Realistic_Neural_Models_with_the_GEneral_NEural_SImulations_System.pdf | 17:04 |
| ybit | ignore design of machine elements | 17:05 |
| ybit | jdugger: you seem to be into scheduling a lot, how much flexibility do you allow? personally, i've found that allowing myself flexibility helps in actually accomplishing tasks | 17:27 |
| kanzure | i are robot http://heybryan.org/todo.html | 17:29 |
| kanzure | "TAKE SHOWER" | 17:29 |
| kanzure | "PISS" | 17:29 |
| ybit | i see those nowhere! | 17:29 |
| ybit | you are no robot! | 17:29 |
| * ybit cries | 17:29 | |
| kanzure | i see 'shower' a few times | 17:29 |
| ybit | you actually shower after running, that's weird ;) | 17:30 |
| ybit | well, i've been looking into scheduling out what to do in order to become an expert in neuroscience | 17:31 |
| kanzure | 1) assimilate ed boyden | 17:31 |
| kanzure | 2) ??? | 17:31 |
| ybit | 3) piss | 17:31 |
| ybit | 1 hr, 1hr there, blah. it doesn't work like that for me, i'm just going with 1hr topic-of-choice in the general area | 17:32 |
| ybit | and do it within these 3 or 4 hours | 17:32 |
| ybit | 10k seems to be too much | 17:32 |
| kanzure | 10k? | 17:33 |
| ybit | 10000 hours | 17:33 |
| ybit | of course, i'll eventually spend that much on the subject | 17:33 |
| ybit | but you don't even spend 1k getting a doctorate | 17:33 |
| kanzure | what is an "expert" | 17:34 |
| ybit | well, the book i linked to yesterday tries to define it | 17:34 |
| kanzure | yawn | 17:34 |
| ybit | isn't it time for you shower or something? | 17:34 |
| kanzure | todo.html was very unhealthy for me | 17:34 |
| kanzure | i've been off that crack for a few years now | 17:34 |
| ybit | how was it unhealthy, in 140 characters or less :) | 17:35 |
| kanzure | in the words of lion kimbro, "this will kill you" | 17:35 |
| ybit | that works | 17:35 |
| ybit | afk | 17:35 |
| kanzure | http://www.speakeasy.org/~lion/nb/html/doc011.html | 17:36 |
| kanzure | i can't believe i just asked ben goertzel that | 17:50 |
| kanzure | "so, hey, are the chinese familiar with the chinese room problem?" | 17:51 |
| -!- Overand is now known as Onomatopoeia | 18:19 | |
| -!- Onomatopoeia is now known as Overand | 18:20 | |
| -!- Overand is now known as Heteronormative | 18:20 | |
| -!- Heteronormative is now known as Overand | 18:21 | |
| -!- Overand is now known as Heteroabnormal | 18:30 | |
| -!- Heteroabnormal is now known as Overand | 18:31 | |
| fenn | antidisestablishmentarian | 18:54 |
| * fenn trudges through info about running OpenCV on the beagleboard DSP | 19:31 | |
| kanzure | huh has it been done already? | 19:32 |
| fenn | not afaik; closest i see is http://www.hbrobotics.org/wiki/index.php5/Beagle_Board#Using_the_BeagleBoard.27s_DSP_for_vision_processing | 19:35 |
| kanzure | http://crab.rutgers.edu/~goertzel/SingularityStudies.pdf | 19:46 |
| jdugger | Sorry, ybit, I just woke up. | 19:59 |
| fenn | "yep you're obese, the machine says so" http://healthwise-everythinghealth.blogspot.com/2010/01/obesity-body-scan.html | 20:00 |
| fenn | i love these CT scans | 20:00 |
| jdugger | I don't know about "being into scheduling," but I do use a calendar to track reoccuring tasks, or tasks with deadlines. | 20:01 |
| jdugger | I take notes and review them daily. This provides a history--a useful reference in its own right, and it helps insure nothing gets forgotten. | 20:03 |
| jdugger | Spending too much time fiddling with a time management system traps you. As kanzure wrote "i've been off that crack for a few years now". | 20:05 |
| jdugger | If I get three important things done at work and at least two important things done at home each weekday, I feel satisified. | 20:07 |
| kanzure | you count one thing two thing three thing happy? | 20:07 |
| kanzure | does "go to the bathroom" become a thing? | 20:07 |
| kanzure | just wondering | 20:07 |
| jdugger | No. | 20:07 |
| jdugger | "That's fixed," "That's troubleshot to the lowest-replaceable unit," "That's correctly set,"--I got a good day's work done. | 20:08 |
| jdugger | Rather coarse resolution, but it works for me. Managing time's a tool, not a stressor. :) | 20:09 |
| jdugger | "Cleaned my home," "Worked on project X," "Worked on project Y,"--go to work satisfied. | 20:10 |
| jdugger | If something important has a fixed deadline, I tend to schedule in finer detail, perhaps down to the half hour. | 20:15 |
| jdugger | The only non-obvious technique I ever found useful was to write down what you did, when you started, when you finished, down to the minute, as you did it, for two weeks. | 20:19 |
| jdugger | Every time I've done that I find it improves my ability to estimate task length, and it identifies time sinks. | 20:20 |
| jdugger | Such as twitter, IRC, ... ;) | 20:20 |
| fenn | jdugger: why did you find that useful, and why two weeks? | 20:20 |
| jdugger | Two weeks covered a long enough period of time to capture long-term variations and widely spaced events. | 20:20 |
| fenn | besides identifying time sinks and estimating tasks, did you learn anything else? | 20:21 |
| jdugger | At work, this might mean two weekly meetings for example. At home, it might mean oh, laundry day or grocery shopping. | 20:21 |
| jdugger | Yes. I found I used time sinks to pad the work day and to avoid unpleasant tasks. | 20:22 |
| jdugger | Some made very plausible excuses, some did not. | 20:22 |
| fenn | and what's the result of learning this? did you apply it somehow? | 20:22 |
| jdugger | This helped later when I had to manage others, because I already knew what excuses to reject. | 20:22 |
| fenn | ah | 20:22 |
| * fenn looks around for some henchmen to manage | 20:23 | |
| jdugger | Yes. I can much more accurately estimate task length than most co-workers, and I can demonstrate that accuracy from a written record. | 20:23 |
| fenn | kanzure: by my timekeeping records you should be spending at least 16x more time on each email | 20:23 |
| jdugger | This makes less popular, since it keeps me patronizing my supervisor to the extent politeness requires. | 20:23 |
| jdugger | Email's a big time sink. If you don't have time to write, just press delete. :) | 20:24 |
| jdugger | </lecture> | 20:24 |
| fenn | i barely have time to read and i'm not even employed | 20:24 |
| jdugger | Thank you all for indulging me as I slipped into lecture mode. | 20:24 |
| jdugger | ? | 20:24 |
| fenn | no it is quite topical | 20:25 |
| jdugger | Man, that's one of unemployment's great joys! | 20:25 |
| fenn | all the free time? *laugh* | 20:25 |
| jdugger | No, no, I'm surprised at that problem. | 20:25 |
| jdugger | You have my attention, fenn, if you want to give details. If not, that's okay too. :) | 20:26 |
| fenn | well anyway if you haven't seen this yet you might find it interesting: http://fennetic.net/sleep/ | 20:26 |
| jdugger | I see that graph, but what does it show? | 20:27 |
| fenn | jdugger: unlike focused specialists working with blinders on, i have free reign over the whole world of interesting news, science, technology, development efforts etc | 20:27 |
| fenn | so it takes a lot more time to integrate all that | 20:27 |
| fenn | i never learned how to ignore an entire field | 20:27 |
| fenn | the closest i can do is just shut out everything | 20:28 |
| fenn | sorta like time traveling | 20:28 |
| jdugger | You asked a very good question when you wrote, "and what's the result of learning this? did you apply it somehow?" | 20:35 |
| jdugger | I often have that problem. How do I integrate a result/tool/idea/learning, instead of just allowing it to dissipate. | 20:36 |
| jdugger | Capturing enough useful work for the waste heat it made, if you like. | 20:36 |
| fenn | well, that's what 50 people asked me at the quantified self meetup, and i had no good answer | 20:37 |
| fenn | i'd like to think that it's because i never applied any statistical methods to find unexpected patterns, but in reality it's probably just that i lack self discipline | 20:38 |
| * fenn wonders if there's an app/pill for that | 20:38 | |
| fenn | (and not ECT) | 20:38 |
| fenn | often integration is the result of repetition/practice | 20:39 |
| fenn | you have to pick and choose what to practice, you can't do everything :( | 20:40 |
| jdugger | Yes! I keep an ever-extending list of "Someday-Perhaps" projects...things cool to do that I just can't do now. | 20:41 |
| jdugger | Such as build a STM. | 20:41 |
| kanzure | http://cstart.org/ more on open source space stuff | 20:44 |
| kanzure | oh wait, might not be open source | 20:44 |
| kanzure | oh yay they GPL their bullshit. | 20:45 |
| fenn | apart from their superior web presentation skills, how is this not openvirgle? | 20:53 |
| kanzure | people don't do their research | 20:54 |
| kanzure | also, it started from a reddit thread so that makes it automatically better? or something | 20:54 |
| fenn | meh | 20:56 |
| fenn | off/me goes to tokyo subway | 20:56 |
| superkuh | http://fennetic.net/sleep/ is nice. I am going to convert all my saved data into it's format. | 21:11 |
| jdugger | superkuh, what does his graph show? | 21:12 |
| superkuh | I assume it is an actogram (activity diagram) of arbitrary categories of activity over time. The category_colors hash (?) lists things like "sleep" and "code". | 21:14 |
| jdugger | Thank you, superkuh. | 21:14 |
| superkuh | How long have you had that page up for, fenn? | 21:16 |
| kanzure | a few years | 21:17 |
| superkuh | I wasted a lot of time. | 21:17 |
| kanzure | yes it's an actogram | 21:19 |
| kanzure | hm there's more up there | 21:19 |
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| jdugger | Hmm...the raw data interests more. | 21:56 |
| ybit | 1625 1648 fight sd-card | 22:08 |
| ybit | fenn: you had a fight with an sd card, huh? :) | 22:08 |
| ybit | jdugger: thatnks for the comments | 22:08 |
| fenn | kicked its ass too | 22:08 |
| ybit | fenn: what is white? i don't see it in category_colors | 22:10 |
| ybit | from about june 09 to about aug 09 there's more of it | 22:12 |
| fenn | white is stuff i dont have any color for yet | 22:12 |
| kanzure | heh | 22:12 |
| fenn | jun-aug is me working in campbell's lab, i haven't colored "work" | 22:12 |
| kanzure | what's the color of "soulcrushing"? | 22:12 |
| ybit | arpparently white ;) | 22:13 |
| fenn | i wouldnt call that soul crushing work | 22:13 |
| kanzure | racist :( | 22:13 |
| kanzure | <-- kidding | 22:13 |
| ybit | :P | 22:13 |
| fenn | it's actually transparent, not white | 22:13 |
| fenn | but you racists can't tell the difference | 22:13 |
| ybit | :D | 22:13 |
| ybit | kanzure: are you just making it around to reading some emails? | 22:22 |
| ybit | you keep bringing up stuff from about a week ago | 22:22 |
| ybit | i keep looking up videos that are 2 years old | 22:23 |
| ybit | or more | 22:24 |
| ybit | i'm fetching all the cognitive neurosci almaden talks | 22:24 |
| jdugger | fenn, the actogram impresses much more now that I've seen the raw data. | 22:30 |
| jdugger | impresses me, rather. | 22:30 |
| kanzure | ybit: no i'm not reading old emails | 22:32 |
| kanzure | although recently i have been doing better at reading 1-day old emails | 22:32 |
| kanzure | jdugger: most people need to see pretty colors to understand things.. i learned that the hard way with skdb | 22:33 |
| kanzure | actually i haven't learned that lesson yet | 22:33 |
| kanzure | don't listen to me | 22:33 |
| jdugger | kanzure, I have the pending project to scan all my dead-tree books. I need to build a book scanner to do this. | 22:34 |
| jdugger | I can't afford the commerical models that actually work. | 22:34 |
| kanzure | are you willing to de-bind the books? | 22:34 |
| jdugger | Does skdb have enough maturity to support theis kind of hardware project? | 22:34 |
| kanzure | i'd say so, yes | 22:35 |
| jdugger | I.e., I want to make skdb packages, and not write an Instructale. | 22:35 |
| jdugger | able, even. | 22:35 |
| kanzure | but it doesn't have the parts for this project | 22:35 |
| ybit | ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ | 22:35 |
| ybit | ah | 22:35 |
| kanzure | i mean, right now you can't just say "combine scanner with paper feeder, done" | 22:35 |
| kanzure | because there's no scanner package, etc. | 22:35 |
| kanzure | so as long as you understand that, you're good | 22:35 |
| jdugger | Right. | 22:35 |
| jdugger | Well, let me think on that. | 22:35 |
| jdugger | I have to do more planning before I bend metal, so to speak. | 22:36 |
| jdugger | Coming in as a naive end user, I think the book scanner project would serve as a consistent set of examples for skdb documentation. | 22:37 |
| jdugger | Anyhow, time to commute. | 22:38 |
| kanzure | yep | 22:38 |
| kanzure | i agree | 22:38 |
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| ybit | universal studios taking advantage of augmented reality | 23:50 |
| ybit | http://www.harrypotter3d.com/ | 23:50 |
| fenn | blegh | 23:57 |
| ybit | or of our current version of it.. | 23:57 |
| fenn | i was playing with that last week, it rather blows | 23:57 |
| ybit | yep, nothing new there | 23:58 |
| fenn | i'm disappointed that fiducial tracking is the extent of most people's understanding of AR | 23:58 |
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