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| AndChat| | lurking from $DAYJOB | 00:11 |
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| kanzure | you smell like a perl programmer | 00:14 |
| kanzure | :P | 00:14 |
| ybit2 | could be a php person | 00:15 |
| kanzure | php people don't do $ALL_CAPS | 00:15 |
| kanzure | prolly bash | 00:16 |
| * ybit2 was considering asking kanzure for his smella-programmer add-on but decided against it | 00:16 | |
| kanzure | ybit2: good call. the world _stinks_ | 00:16 |
| kanzure | http://lifehacker.com/5296814/grab-all-your-google-docs-with-a-python-script | 00:17 |
| AndChat| | bash by choice, ksh for my sins. | 00:18 |
| ybit2 | from way back when... | 00:20 |
| ybit2 | 00:09 < kanzure> I am, however, interested in the medical scientist training program | 00:20 |
| ybit2 | 00:10 < kanzure> An 8 year program to get a PhD and an MD | 00:20 |
| ybit2 | 00:10 < kanzure> with a stipend paid by the govt | 00:20 |
| ybit2 | kanzure: you have a link for that? | 00:20 |
| kanzure | http://gpp.nih.gov/Prospective/InstitutionalPartnerships/MSTPatNIH/ | 00:21 |
| kanzure | i think it was called mstp | 00:22 |
| kanzure | holy crap paul's latest email *sucks* | 00:41 |
| kanzure | "guh huh just define unit_mm()" | 00:41 |
| fenn | AndChat|: where you located, if you dont mind? | 00:43 |
| fenn | hm. texas | 00:44 |
| AndChat| | Odd...I wonder why this chat client doesn't update my nickname. | 00:44 |
| fenn | the part that threw me was $DAYJOB at midnight | 00:44 |
| AndChat| | Let me reconnect. | 00:44 |
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| kanzure | fenn: you of all people shouldn't be bound by $DAY and $NIGHT offsets :P | 00:46 |
| fenn | that's why i was asking... duh | 00:46 |
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| kanzure | hey why didn't we use unum? | 00:47 |
| fenn | it sucked | 00:48 |
| kanzure | back when you were writing Unit | 00:48 |
| kanzure | i see | 00:48 |
| kanzure | well, paul just sent out an email about it | 00:48 |
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| fenn | good for him | 00:48 |
| kanzure | Guest99983: use /nick blahblahblah | 00:48 |
| kanzure | fenn: just doing some damage control, thought i'd mention that i replied to him already. | 00:48 |
| fenn | Jay is probably already taken | 00:49 |
| kanzure | "SF Mayor Gavin Newsom on the Internet Archive's hiring 100 people to scan books and microfilm from the unemployment rolls leveraging a matching system using stimulus dollars." | 00:49 |
| Guest99983 | It is. I didn't log out at home. | 00:49 |
| ybit2 | /msg nickserv ghost jay <password> | 00:49 |
| ybit2 | if you want | 00:49 |
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| ybit2 | thanks for the link kanzure | 00:51 |
| kanzure | also, facebook connect is annoying as shit.. how does this *not* incentize me to just write a facebook scraper? | 00:51 |
| Guest99983 | Thank you all, but I should actually do my work. | 00:51 |
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| kanzure | *incetivize | 00:51 |
| kanzure | *incentivize | 00:51 |
| fenn | incensivise! | 00:52 |
| kanzure | you insensitive clod! | 00:52 |
| Guest99983 | "encourage" or "motivate" | 00:52 |
| Guest99983 | Both are found in dictionaries, instead of belonging to jargon. | 00:53 |
| fenn | Guest99983: what is your day night job? | 00:54 |
| kanzure | avicenna: ping | 00:54 |
| kanzure | fenn: why did adl jump forward an hour | 00:55 |
| kanzure | s/adl/davinci/ | 00:55 |
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| * kanzure considers exchanging fenn for steve | 01:27 | |
| katsmeow-afk | what's a steve? | 01:29 |
| kanzure | katsmeow-afk: http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pbio.0040368 | 01:34 |
| kanzure | http://lesswrong.com/user/Steve_Rayhawk/ | 01:35 |
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| kanzure | hah they got him in a photo: http://singinst.org/aboutus/team | 01:37 |
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| any84947247 | [00:38] <katsmeow-afk> i am sorry i live in such a degraded collections of humans here irl, i cannot make any comments | 01:40 |
| any84947247 | [00:38] *** Disconnected | 01:40 |
| any84947247 | my expereinces don't apply | 01:40 |
| any84947247 | storms here, i won't bother changing nicks, will be disconencted again anyhow | 01:41 |
| kanzure | sounds depressing | 01:41 |
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| fenn | "My brother works partly for the company that sells equipment, training, and interpretation services for the Test of Variables of Attention, which may be the continuous performance task implemented with the most attention to timing resolution." (steve rayhawk) | 02:14 |
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| kanzure | yeah joe does some strange things | 02:19 |
| kanzure | also he's hosting gnusha.org | 02:19 |
| kanzure | (joe) | 02:19 |
| fenn | i seem to have forgotten my password on neuroblastoma | 02:19 |
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| kanzure | fenn: it was probably a publick ey | 02:19 |
| kanzure | *public key | 02:19 |
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| kanzure | ssh -i ~/.ssh/public.key fenn@neuroblastoma.omgwallhack.org | 02:20 |
| kanzure | screen; chat.rb; etc. etc. | 02:20 |
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| kanzure | fenn: then /join omg | 02:25 |
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| kanzure | http://humanityplus-uk.com/ | 02:41 |
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| fenn | there's this place right down the road, "nano dimension inc" "supporting nanotechnology" and i can't find any information at all on the net | 03:09 |
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| genehacker | where? | 03:14 |
| genehacker | $5 says they sell microscopes or high vacuum equipment | 03:14 |
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| genehacker | neat, autodesk's unofficial policy for student versions is "go find the full version on a torrent site" | 03:33 |
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| * bkero 's policy for student versions is go grab the GPL'd version. | 04:50 | |
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| fenn | http://fennetic.net/irc/cry.png | 06:01 |
| fenn | why do people even implement things like this | 06:02 |
| fenn | i'd kill for a shell right now (preferably whoever decided it would be a good idea to force me to use this crap) | 06:03 |
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| kanzure | fenn: cpanel is worse | 10:13 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 12:48 |
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| kanzure | updated: http://designfiles.org/papers/longevity/ | 12:58 |
| kanzure | or i suppose http://designfiles.org/papers/longevity/?C=M;O=D | 12:59 |
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| kanzure | hello Semikolon | 14:13 |
| Semikolon | Changed my nick from branstrom | 14:13 |
| kanzure | sadness, i thought it was a newperson :( | 14:13 |
| Semikolon | ^_^ | 14:14 |
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| kanzure | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek | 14:14 |
| thebwt | howdy | 14:14 |
| Semikolon | Soon new people will arrive, though. | 14:14 |
| Semikolon | Perhaps not to this channel, but to the realm of transhumanism. | 14:14 |
| kanzure | ooh you're on linode | 14:14 |
| thebwt | *nods* | 14:14 |
| kanzure | how is it? | 14:14 |
| thebwt | so far, fraking amazing. | 14:14 |
| thebwt | ;) | 14:15 |
| Semikolon | Me and 8 philosophy students from Stockholm are starting up a transhumanist initiative called Människa Plus. | 14:15 |
| kanzure | anders sandberg is from your area i think | 14:16 |
| thebwt | mainly I wanted a decent shell box so that I could ssh from anywhere (my g1), my home connection wasn't quite up to speed for that though. | 14:16 |
| kanzure | heh heybryan.org is on my home connection | 14:16 |
| thebwt | http://thebwt.ath.cx/ is mine, but thebwt.com is where everything is moving | 14:16 |
| kanzure | ybit is http://ybit.ath.cx/ and superkuh is http://superkuh.ath.cx/ | 14:17 |
| thebwt | sow hat are you guys up to mostly? | 14:39 |
| thebwt | so what* | 14:39 |
| kanzure | thebwt: i just sent you an email about that actually | 14:41 |
| * thebwt is reading it | 14:42 | |
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| kanzure | james choate put a lot of effort into this: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Confusion_Research_Center | 15:15 |
| kanzure | but i'm still not sure why he's not helping us with http://austinhackerspace.org/ | 15:15 |
| thebwt | alright, got skdb-get.py to run all the way to the geom import | 15:16 |
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| thebwt | now, to work on that | 15:16 |
| dotKuro | Hello. | 15:16 |
| kanzure | hey dotKuro | 15:16 |
| kanzure | thebwt: what's wrong with geom? O.o | 15:16 |
| thebwt | I don't have pythonOOC installed yet | 15:16 |
| thebwt | but I managed to make it all run from my home dir, instead of in the system director | 15:17 |
| kanzure | btw there are ubuntu packages for opencascade, i think they are apt-get'd in the instructions before installing pythonocc | 15:17 |
| kanzure | it shouldn't have used the system directory /at all/ | 15:17 |
| thebwt | well if i do a raw git-clone, I cannot run your application | 15:17 |
| thebwt | err | 15:17 |
| thebwt | cannot run skdb-get | 15:17 |
| thebwt | because it expects iteself to be on the sys path | 15:18 |
| thebwt | because of "import skdb" | 15:18 |
| thebwt | you need to modify the python path to include your project | 15:18 |
| thebwt | http://www.pastebin.com/m4bbf6469 | 15:20 |
| thebwt | I added that before import skdb | 15:20 |
| thebwt | and it should work from anywhere | 15:20 |
| thebwt | (this is all in skdb-get.py) | 15:20 |
| kanzure | right | 15:20 |
| kanzure | the other option is to add it to PYTHONPATH via export=$PYTHONPATH:/path/to/skdb/ and add that into your ~/.bashrc | 15:21 |
| thebwt | *nods* that is in your setup file | 15:21 |
| thebwt | but thats messy, and I don't like code that touches my stuff ;) | 15:21 |
| kanzure | understood.. that's reasonable | 15:22 |
| thebwt | bzr branch lp:lernid | 15:22 |
| thebwt | that project is a great example | 15:22 |
| * kanzure checks | 15:22 | |
| --- Log opened Mon Feb 22 14:30:23 2010 | ||
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| thebwt | wb | 14:30 |
| thebwt | so are many of you ut students? | 14:30 |
| kanzure | i am; a few others come and go as they please | 14:32 |
| kanzure | designfiles.org houses a giant paper repository for the rest of us: http://designfiles.org/papers/ | 14:32 |
| kanzure | s/houses/hosts/ | 14:32 |
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| kanzure | http://www.reprapsource.com/en/shop/shapercube | 14:42 |
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| thebwt | blarg, OCC.Utils.Topology has all it's whitespaces messed up for some reason. | 14:48 |
| kanzure | did the installation instructions not work? | 14:51 |
| kanzure | ybit2: where is hplusbot? | 14:53 |
| kanzure | and why isn't he on /etc/init.d/ or something | 14:53 |
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| kanzure | ybit: why isn't hplusbot configured on /etc/init.d or some such | 15:00 |
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| ybit | yeah | 15:00 |
| kanzure | lame | 15:00 |
| ybit | and it doesn't log properly | 15:00 |
| kanzure | hm? | 15:00 |
| ybit | i shouldn't have to send it the kill signal for it flush the log | 15:00 |
| kanzure | did you remember to tell it to close the file handle it creates | 15:01 |
| ybit | you should take hat silence as a no | 15:01 |
| ybit | s/hat/that | 15:01 |
| kanzure | i take hat silence very seriously, it's the most important kind of hat | 15:02 |
| thebwt | home made irc bot? | 15:03 |
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| kanzure | thebwt: supybot i think | 15:04 |
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| thebwt | neat, some of us in ubuntu-texas were working on a pet irc bot project. | 15:06 |
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| thebwt | so how much do you guys use ubuntu? | 15:11 |
| dotKuro | I had Ubuntu on my last hard drive, but my current's Win7. So, overall, not that much. There's a lot of software that doesn't play nicely with emulators. | 15:12 |
| thebwt | *nods* | 15:12 |
| kanzure | the rest of us are mostly debian users | 15:13 |
| thebwt | I see | 15:13 |
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| kanzure | java model railroad interface project http://jmri.sourceforge.net/ | 15:23 |
| kanzure | i think i was on humana for a while: http://jmri.sourceforge.net/ | 15:34 |
| kanzure | er | 15:34 |
| kanzure | http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1558982&cid=31230888 | 15:34 |
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| kanzure | http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1558982&cid=31231412 or here | 15:35 |
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| thebwt | okay, so after i've gotten lego with skdb-get, how do display it | 15:42 |
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| kanzure | thebwt: run skdb/paths.py and choose the first or second menu option | 16:01 |
| thebwt | kanzure: OCC.Display doesn't have a module called wxSampleGui (it has SimpleGui, and wxSampleGui2d) | 16:02 |
| kanzure | which version of pythonocc | 16:03 |
| thebwt | 0.4 | 16:03 |
| thebwt | I should grab 0.3 then | 16:03 |
| kanzure | lovely.. guess they changed the api on me | 16:04 |
| kanzure | well, SimpleGui might work and be exactly the same | 16:04 |
| kanzure | so if you want to go in and add a line saying wxSampleGui=SimpleGui or something.. | 16:04 |
| thebwt | just changing the import statement | 16:04 |
| kanzure | i can't imagine them getting rid of wxSampleGui | 16:04 |
| kanzure | maybe they didn't like the name :) | 16:05 |
| thebwt | nope, doesn't have a attribute called 'display' | 16:05 |
| kanzure | fakfajfajfa | 16:05 |
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| kanzure | well, 0.3 is what i tested with | 16:05 |
| kanzure | this is sad though | 16:05 |
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| kanzure | " Genome Scripts used in fungal comparative genomics " http://github.com/hyphaltip/genome-scripts | 16:15 |
| kanzure | http://github.com/hyphaltip/fungaltools | 16:15 |
| Semikolon | kanzure: Well he's in Oxford | 16:16 |
| kanzure | is that bad? | 16:17 |
| Semikolon | We're local to Sweden, and starting with Stockholm, although there's a group in Lund and possibly some interest in Gothenburg as well | 16:22 |
| Semikolon | Trying to bring a positive, hopeful view of the applications of emerging technologies to the general public. | 16:22 |
| kanzure | oh, sandberg | 16:22 |
| Semikolon | Right... | 16:23 |
| kanzure | http://www.xgencongress.com/ | 16:24 |
| kanzure | http://www.healthtech.com/xgn/ | 16:24 |
| kanzure | oh looks like for a conference | 16:24 |
| kanzure | buh? System.Resources.MissingManifestResourceException ? | 17:23 |
| kanzure | hackerspace photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sajego/galleries/72157623448815372/ | 17:37 |
| kanzure | blah why is fenn the second result for "scrape snpedia" | 18:14 |
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| kanzure | have i mentioned how much i hate C# lately | 18:56 |
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| QuantumG | :) | 18:58 |
| kanzure | The Spiritual Brain: Selective cortical lesions modulate human self-transcendence http://designfiles.org/papers/neuro/The%20Spiritual%20Brain%20-%20Selective%20cortical%20lesions%20modulate%20human%20self-transcendence.pdf | 19:31 |
| kanzure | ha, ha. | 19:31 |
| kristianpaul | http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2009/05/09/nasa-warns-of-super-solar-storm-2012/ ? | 19:33 |
| kristianpaul | :p | 19:34 |
| fenn | they got the magic number in there | 19:35 |
| kristianpaul | indeed | 19:36 |
| fenn | nasa warns 2012 blah blah blah blah blah | 19:36 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 19:44 |
| ybit | hi JayDugger | 19:48 |
| JayDugger | Hello, ybit. Thank you for your help yesterday night and early this morning. | 19:49 |
| kanzure | is there a name for a type of placebo effect where you *think* you're getting positive results, but you're not? | 20:11 |
| JayDugger | Wishful thinking. | 20:12 |
| JayDugger | Self-patronizing? | 20:13 |
| JayDugger | Anyone here experimented with polyphasic sleep AND written up your results? | 20:15 |
| kanzure | check the logs for links to supermemo | 20:18 |
| JayDugger | Will do. Where do I find the logs, kanzure? | 20:18 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-24-hour_sleep-wake_syndrome http://www.supermemo.com/articles/sleep.htm http://www.supermemo.com/articles/sleepchart.htm | 20:18 |
| kanzure | !logs | 20:18 |
| hplusbot | kanzure: http://adl.serveftp.org/irclogs.txt | 20:18 |
| JayDugger | Thank you. | 20:18 |
| ybit | http://vimeo.com/9117064 :: fenn you may like this | 20:24 |
| ybit | also, fenn, next time you see andrew hessel, say hi. he apparently hasn't met you before | 20:29 |
| kanzure | he's met him over the phone | 20:29 |
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| * nsh suspects he may have non-24 | 20:34 | |
| nsh | or some general non-circadian disorder | 20:34 |
| fenn | it's quite simple to find out | 20:41 |
| fenn | 1) quit your job | 20:41 |
| kanzure | 2) become extremely depressed? | 20:42 |
| fenn | 2) start logging when you sleep and wake | 20:42 |
| fenn | 3) go to sleep whenever you feel like it | 20:42 |
| fenn | kanzure: first of all, it's "Fun Deficiency Syndrome", and secondly that's a side effect of all you fuckers being asleep | 20:42 |
| kanzure | :P | 20:43 |
| QuantumG | better yet, log when you feel like going to sleep and log when you actually go to sleep | 20:43 |
| fenn | feel like i'm in zombieland as soon as 10 pm rolls around here in menlo park | 20:43 |
| fenn | you can lie down in the middle of the road on main street for 10 minutes and not see a car or a person or even any animals | 20:43 |
| fenn | and the trains stop at midnight :( :( | 20:44 |
| * nsh feels like going to sleep at three times of the 'day': (a) when he has to wake up, for upwards of 4-5 hours, at 'mid-afternoon' (8-9h after waking) and at 'bedtime' ~20h after waking | 20:45 | |
| fenn | biphasic sleep is quite common | 20:45 |
| nsh | this is generally unconstrained by sunlight, and only resets to circadian due to 'important' forced waking | 20:45 |
| nsh | aye | 20:45 |
| nsh | (university does not currently count as important) | 20:46 |
| nsh | there was an article on a recent study of 90m naps on learning ability today in the bbc | 20:47 |
| kanzure | 90 meter naps! great scott | 20:48 |
| nsh | *min :-P | 20:48 |
| fenn | napping at the speed of light | 20:48 |
| kanzure | 90m/nap-second ? | 20:48 |
| nsh | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8524549.stm -- Dr. Matthew Walker, UCB -- no article link :-/ | 20:48 |
| nsh | probably this related to this work: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17406665?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=1 | 20:50 |
| nsh | i guess it's being reported because of this symposium at the AAAS conference this year: Role of Sleep in Memory from Development to Old Age, a symposium. 8:30-11:30 a.m., San Diego Convention Center, Room 2. | 20:52 |
| nsh | last sunday | 20:53 |
| * nsh should try to get to more conferencces | 20:53 | |
| kanzure | fenn: lawl @ extreme business networking. sounds like a deadly sport | 21:05 |
| kanzure | "business networking.. BUT EXTREME." | 21:05 |
| JayDugger | Berkeley Sleep & Neuroimaging Lab: http://walkerlab.berkeley.edu/papers.html | 21:07 |
| kanzure | there's a wankerlab in berlin :/ | 21:07 |
| kanzure | "if it is to be, then it is up to me" | 21:11 |
| * kanzure hangs it over his door | 21:11 | |
| ybit | ezbl :: uzbl inside emacs | 21:14 |
| kanzure | hm since when does Eugene M. Izhikevich work at braincorporation.com ? | 21:17 |
| ybit | http://www.haxney.org/2009/08/its-alive.html | 21:17 |
| ybit | http://github.com/haxney/ezbl | 21:18 |
| fenn | i guess i don't really want a browser inside my text editor | 21:37 |
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| QuantumG | I wish I had a decent text editor inside my browser sometimes | 22:02 |
| QuantumG | but then again, I'm just too lazy to set up the necessary php | 22:03 |
| JayDugger | Try It's All Text if you use firefox. | 22:04 |
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| bkero | It is a creature that walks the earth alone. It is half man, half bear, and half pig. | 22:17 |
| katsmeow | math fault | 22:20 |
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| JayDugger | That extension allows you to call an external text editor for any text area in the browser. | 22:32 |
| JayDugger | Good night, everyone. | 22:32 |
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| kanzure | http://www.michaelnagle.org/ | 22:33 |
| kanzure | http://quantifiedself.org/ didn't know they had a site | 22:33 |
| kanzure | stalk: Michael Nagle <mpnagle@gmail.com | 22:33 |
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| fenn | michael nagle was part of nublabs/sproutward | 22:59 |
| * fenn actually looks at his website | 22:59 | |
| * bkero nagles you. | 23:00 | |
| fenn | i think he was the one with the diy neck therapy | 23:01 |
| fenn | whatever that means | 23:01 |
| ybit2 | it means he rubs his neck with his hands | 23:03 |
| ybit2 | fenn: your collection of alien films, i'm watching | 23:06 |
| ybit2 | skipped around the first, skipping two and three to four | 23:07 |
| kanzure | my aunt just asked me if i know about make magazine :/ | 23:12 |
| fenn | ybit: you're a fucking idiot. aliens (2) is the only one worth watching (well, maybe #1) | 23:15 |
| fenn | #4 doesn't even hold together logically | 23:15 |
| ybit2 | #1 sucked | 23:17 |
| genehacker | come on it had cryovolcanism, what's not to love about cryovolcanism | 23:18 |
| genehacker | let's not forget the HR giger visuals | 23:19 |
| fenn | from your perspective it probably seems like just another alien movie, but this is where most of those cliche's come from | 23:19 |
| kanzure | hm i got someone who can give me an intro to neal stephenson | 23:19 |
| ybit2 | uhuh | 23:19 |
| kanzure | maybe i should get around to actually reading snow crash? | 23:20 |
| fenn | kanzure: neal stephenson doesn't have time to talk to you :P | 23:20 |
| genehacker | you should | 23:20 |
| fenn | and you really ought to read snow crash, and diamond age, and maybe even cryptonomicon | 23:20 |
| bkero | Start with snowcrash. | 23:21 |
| bkero | <3 snowcrash | 23:21 |
| genehacker | yup they sort of go in the order fenn put them | 23:21 |
| bkero | I read cryptonomicon before Diamond Age. | 23:22 |
| fenn | yeah that was the first one i read, and it's really long | 23:23 |
| * bkero has a copy of Glass House on his shelf that he needs to read. | 23:23 | |
| genehacker | worth it though | 23:23 |
| bkero | I should reread Snowcrash. I haven't lended it out in a while. | 23:23 |
| genehacker | Diamond age has elements from Cryptonomicon | 23:23 |
| fenn | elements? | 23:23 |
| genehacker | and Snow Crash | 23:23 |
| fenn | i know he reuses a lot of family lines | 23:24 |
| genehacker | yup, look really close | 23:24 |
| fenn | meh | 23:24 |
| genehacker | Now what was that data processing organization called? | 23:25 |
| kanzure | stalk: chalo colina | 23:25 |
| fenn | paypal? :P | 23:26 |
| kanzure | stalk: carlos colina <chalo@blueorigin.com> | 23:26 |
| genehacker | I think you got the idea | 23:26 |
| fenn | that's what the paypal mafia was trying to do anyway | 23:26 |
| fenn | before they SOLD OUT | 23:27 |
| genehacker | also here:chalo@chalo.net | 23:27 |
| kanzure | heh "you're polybrainous, bryan" | 23:42 |
| katsmeow-afk | fenn, here's the answer to my question : If automation increased and less jobs were available, people would still have their basic income, and taxes on automated businesses could be adjusted to ensure the benefits of automation were being widely distributed. | 23:42 |
| katsmeow-afk | however, that does not cover inflation: the automated business owner increasing cost by 2x every day to keep ahead of tax inflation | 23:43 |
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| katsmeow-afk | woah, population explosion coming : a family of five with three children would have US$1500 a month per child in net income to spend on the children's behalf, or US$4500 a month just for the three children, | 23:45 |
| kanzure | so, why do trojans steal significant dollar amounts at a time? | 23:48 |
| kanzure | http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/02/22/2353257/How-Banker-Trojans-Steal-Millions-Every-Day?art_pos=2 | 23:48 |
| kanzure | with the amount of market penetration that they have, stealing a few pennies piles up to huuuge numbers. | 23:49 |
| kanzure | it might also look a little shady, true, but whatever | 23:49 |
| kanzure | most people don't have their finances in order enough to notice a few missing pennies | 23:49 |
| fenn | katsmeow-afk: wealth redistribution and inflation aren't the same thing | 23:51 |
| katsmeow-afk | fenn, i didn't say they were | 23:51 |
| * bkero wants someone to distribute some wealth to him. | 23:51 | |
| * katsmeow-afk tosses apenny to bkero | 23:52 | |
| kanzure | "This is pretty exciting. I'm diggin the transhumanist vibe as well, as a chaoshaman of sorts myself." as a what? | 23:52 |
| kanzure | chaos haman? | 23:52 |
| bkero | Yay! Financial liquidity! | 23:52 |
| kanzure | chao shaman? | 23:52 |
| fenn | mckenna wannabe | 23:52 |
| kanzure | druggie? | 23:52 |
| fenn | probably | 23:52 |
| kanzure | wonderful | 23:52 |
| fenn | ask | 23:52 |
| kanzure | he's asking me reprap vs. makerbot | 23:52 |
| kanzure | "superior first fabber" | 23:53 |
| kanzure | "Thanks so much. I'm checking out the 3d printers now, and I wondered from your experience what you thought the superior first fabber is, as a cost to usefulness? I've heard of makerbot, and that Reprap looks like it would be really cool. Any favorite?" | 23:53 |
| fenn | er, they're basically the same thing | 23:53 |
| bkero | I still need the RP parts for a mendel. | 23:54 |
| fenn | makerbot = pay for greater convenience, smaller build volume | 23:54 |
| kanzure | makerbot = pay for bre's ego? | 23:56 |
| fenn | that too | 23:57 |
| kanzure | heh bre's ego tax: $28.73 | 23:57 |
| * bkero has his school bankrolling the cost of a reprap :) | 23:58 | |
| katsmeow-afk | you threatened to reprap a school of your own and put them outa business? | 23:59 |
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