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| kanzure | hm even kevin kelly buys into hype about "the internet of things" http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2007/11/four_stages_in.php | 00:13 |
| kanzure | hrm http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2009/01/open-source_dna.php | 00:16 |
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| kanzure | guess it's time to see what else he's been writing about | 00:17 |
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| kanzure | hm i need to gather some nootropics market data | 00:20 |
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| Noahj | Darn, I have a problem set to do... | 00:39 |
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| Utopiah | ... | 03:39 |
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| fenn | this is kinda scary; i was being quite generous with my answers: http://okcupid.com/results/the-how-reincarnated-are-you-test/?fromCGI=1&var_Enlightenment=67&var_Spirituality=70 | 03:46 |
| fenn | but that's only 7/20 percentile | 03:47 |
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| kanzure | utopiah: i feel your pain | 07:51 |
| kanzure | also: http://designfiles.org/papers/bacteriorhodopsin_memory/ | 07:52 |
| Utopiah | /ignore is the IRC painkiller | 07:55 |
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| kanzure | woah wtf | 08:06 |
| kanzure | tim o'reilly picked up the hplusmagazine article | 08:06 |
| kanzure | http://twitter.com/timoreilly | 08:07 |
| Utopiah | say hi and get your twitter followers * 10^10 | 08:07 |
| kanzure | hm? | 08:10 |
| kanzure | say what? | 08:11 |
| Utopiah | say hi to timoreilly from your twitter account saying you were the authr or sth and get retwitter and get a bunch of his followers follow you | 08:11 |
| kanzure | what would this message look like? | 08:12 |
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| Utopiah | @timoreilly thanks for posting the SKDB article, suggestions for http://designfiles.org/dokuwiki/skdb greatly appreciated ? | 08:14 |
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| kanzure | with the question mark? | 08:16 |
| Utopiah | no no was becaus eit was a proposition , actually maybe s/SKDB/#SKDB/ to make it twitter friendly | 08:17 |
| Utopiah | (sidenote : if http://designfiles.org/dokuwiki/skdb becomes popular it should be redirected to http://designfiles.org/skdb/ IMHO since I dont see why the wiki name has to do with the project) | 08:18 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/skdb/ is just the files.. | 08:19 |
| kanzure | the wiki name has nothing to do with it, true | 08:20 |
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| kanzure | google map heatmap stuff http://code.google.com/p/gheat/ | 08:58 |
| kanzure | hm datapkg hit http://radar.oreilly.com/ the other day | 08:59 |
| kanzure | under nat torkington | 08:59 |
| kanzure | technological progress happens via simulated annealing http://bit.ly/beI21N (ycombinator) | 09:01 |
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| thesnark | kanzure A curiosity: Are you happy with the functionality offered by current free libraries for analyzing genes, proteins, etc? | 09:15 |
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| thesnark | Just email me a response if I'm not online when you're back | 09:17 |
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| kanzure | fenn: less specifically maybe you should broaden your scope to experimental social interaction in general :/ | 11:21 |
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| kanzure | why is it so much easier to convince people about bits and bytes than about atoms these days? | 12:46 |
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| kanzure | to be doing something is "radical" | 12:47 |
| kanzure | (it's entirely possible that i am hanging out with the wrong people) | 12:48 |
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| kanzure | hplusmagazine.com article got hit hard by http://www.disinfo.com/ but looks like a lame website | 12:59 |
| kanzure | ah here we go | 13:00 |
| kanzure | http://www.disinfo.com/2010/02/can-open-source-manufacturing-save-humanity/ | 13:00 |
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| kanzure | "And the article also notes the existence of OpenCASCADE, an open source CAD geometry kernel, which can generate 3D pictures with information that can already be used to automatically generate instructions" | 13:01 |
| kanzure | fuck | 13:01 |
| kanzure | ugh. not true | 13:01 |
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| kanzure | even campbell's more exicted about bits than about atoms | 13:14 |
| kanzure | and he's a professor of mechanical things.. :/ | 13:14 |
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| thesnark | kanzure any thoughts on my question from earlier? | 13:20 |
| thesnark | anything you'd like to see in bio related software libs? | 13:20 |
| kanzure | the quality of the current functions and methods that are implemented tend to be ok | 13:20 |
| thesnark | or software for that matter? | 13:20 |
| kanzure | however, there could be broader scope | 13:20 |
| kanzure | there is a lot of scattered biology software stuffs out there | 13:20 |
| kanzure | the open-bio project has been trying to get everything into a more usable single package, like for bioinformatics | 13:21 |
| kanzure | (i.e., bioperl, biopython, bioruby) | 13:21 |
| thesnark | all of those are necessary though, right? In case your project is in any of those languages | 13:21 |
| kanzure | oh, those are from open-bio | 13:21 |
| thesnark | ah | 13:22 |
| kanzure | there's lots of random stuff out there.. like ligand-ligand analysis for particular amino acids in protein complexes :P | 13:22 |
| kanzure | having that already integrated or something, or in a standard platform/framework, would be hawt | 13:22 |
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| Utopiah | http://www.touchbionics.com/ | 15:14 |
| Utopiah | from http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/24578/?a=f | 15:15 |
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| kanzure | jef's attempt at explaining why it doesn't matter that people get more excited about digital things than atomic things: (07:58:57 PM) Jef: There is no "grounding problem" because we are in fact floating at the end of a long chain of contingincies, and we always only interact with our adjacent environment. | 21:26 |
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| nsh | wat | 21:35 |
| kanzure | this was re: my confusion as to why everyone is so biased towards everything going "purely digital" versus the healthy mix of bits-and-atoms | 21:36 |
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| kanzure | flamt: hey can you stop connecting? | 21:36 |
| * nsh frowns | 21:36 | |
| nsh | have these people been reading too much greg egan? there's no such thing as "purely digital" | 21:37 |
| nsh | it has to run on some substrate | 21:37 |
| nsh | unless they've managed to scratch the iron of god | 21:37 |
| kanzure | i said that too, but then he said: | 21:38 |
| kanzure | (07:16:37 PM) Jef: Well, it's as if you're saying there's actually a difference between 0.99999999... and 1.0. | 21:38 |
| kanzure | (07:29:58 PM) Jef: But I'm impatient, and I'm tempted to point out that Nature does not compute the infinite expansion of the decimal digits of pi when creating each soap bubble. | 21:38 |
| kanzure | i'm not sure that's a valid response | 21:38 |
| kanzure | ERROR | 21:39 |
| kanzure | there's this term from orionsarm.com that i can't seem to remember. it was something about people who try to destroy as much distance between their senses and reality | 21:40 |
| nsh | hmm | 21:40 |
| nsh | i'm not sure how to parse that | 21:40 |
| nsh | (Jef sounds pretty young, btw) | 21:40 |
| kanzure | oh, um, it was in opposition to the concept of retreating to virtual realities | 21:41 |
| kanzure | jef is super old :P | 21:41 |
| nsh | ah, the other young :-) | 21:42 |
| nsh | i'm not sure you can close down on 'reality' | 21:42 |
| nsh | just make more informed choices of how to construe it | 21:42 |
| kanzure | i was kinda working off of this david zindell quote: "how could they ever take the place of the essential reality that they represent?" | 21:43 |
| kanzure | so anyway, the original issue though was why everyone is so excited about digital stuff | 21:44 |
| nsh | not sure what digital stuff we're talking abotu | 21:44 |
| kanzure | in the diy scene there's still lots of excitement about hardware, sure | 21:44 |
| kanzure | well, for instance, a preference for virtualization over making things | 21:45 |
| kanzure | i.e. outsourcing the service of making things, whether physical things or digital things.. | 21:45 |
| nsh | hm | 21:45 |
| nsh | i'd rather have the food chain be thicker below me than thinner | 21:46 |
| nsh | that is, have lots of options of foundational technology to base my own on, rather than few | 21:46 |
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| nsh | it's not just self-(or community-)sufficiency, it's good ol' fashioned bet-hedging | 21:48 |
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| nsh | heinlein is starting to grate | 21:53 |
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| kanzure | nsh: that's great for stuff that is already being made.. | 22:19 |
| nsh | sure | 22:19 |
| nsh | what do you have in mind though? | 22:20 |
| kanzure | what are you asking | 22:20 |
| nsh | what you meant in contrast to 'stuff that is already being made' | 22:22 |
| kanzure | i think that would be obvious? things that are not presently made? | 22:23 |
| kanzure | the set of things not made is greater than the set of things made :P | 22:24 |
| nsh | hmm | 22:28 |
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