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| kanzure | http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2010/02/open-source-economies.html | 00:29 |
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| ybit | someone quick give me a name | 01:16 |
| ybit | s/me/the local hackerspace | 01:16 |
| kanzure | "ybit's attempt at repeating everyone else's work" (yaareew) | 01:18 |
| kanzure | "I think the real trick is going to show them how to do personal management of accelerating change on a personal level, community level, and business level" | 01:22 |
| katsmeow | this is alaforkingbama, *what* change? | 01:22 |
| kanzure | obama isn't accelerating change, he's just "Change 2008" or something | 01:22 |
| kanzure | er did i just miss something? | 01:23 |
| katsmeow | or i missed the 4 minute pause as a change of topic? | 01:24 |
| kanzure | not quite a change of topic, more like "bryan randomly pulling in something from another conversation out on the interweb that happens to have nothing to do with ybit's shenanigans" | 01:24 |
| katsmeow | ah | 01:24 |
| fenn | supposedly haptek.com is going open source (they ran out of steam or something) | 01:25 |
| * kanzure is meeting with singulartyu.org webmaster in the next few days (due to SXSW) | 01:26 | |
| fenn | haptek's no good for instruction generation tho.. the people don't do actions, just general emotions | 01:26 |
| kanzure | "now get angry at the screwdriver" | 01:26 |
| kanzure | "GRR" | 01:26 |
| katsmeow | lol | 01:27 |
| bkero-legacy | kanzure: Going to attend? :) | 01:27 |
| kanzure | attend? | 01:28 |
| QuantumG | btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSChW9HxAvI | 01:28 |
| kanzure | i just see this as lots of people being in austin for some reason | 01:28 |
| kanzure | so.. yeah. | 01:28 |
| bkero-legacy | SingularityU | 01:28 |
| kanzure | oh | 01:28 |
| kanzure | yes possibly :) | 01:28 |
| bkero-legacy | Get a full tuition grant and make #hplusroadmap proud. <3 | 01:28 |
| kanzure | sure thing | 01:28 |
| bkero-legacy | and teach your instructors a thing or two 8) | 01:29 |
| bkero-legacy | B) | 01:29 |
| kanzure | it's not for the instructors (cept maybe peter norvig, dan barry et al.) | 01:29 |
| kanzure | like hell i'm going to pay $25k to be "instructed" by jason bobe :P | 01:29 |
| bkero-legacy | Hehe | 01:30 |
| bkero-legacy | I can't think of anybody more qualified to go. You should get a full scholarship. | 01:31 |
| bkero-legacy | If you need some recommendations I could give what little clout I have. :P | 01:31 |
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| kanzure | actually | 01:32 |
| kanzure | send an email to: reference@singularityu.org | 01:32 |
| bkero-legacy | orly | 01:32 |
| kanzure | with the subject as: "Bryan Bishop" | 01:32 |
| bkero-legacy | ping me if you consider going, I'll do that :) | 01:32 |
| kanzure | and type about either: | 01:32 |
| kanzure | * Why should you be accepted to SU? | 01:32 |
| kanzure | or: * Verify your entrepreneurial and leadership skills and/or | 01:32 |
| kanzure | demonstrated expertise in one of the SU tracks. | 01:32 |
| kanzure | i already sent the application | 01:33 |
| kanzure | they want references now | 01:33 |
| kanzure | pile 'em up | 01:33 |
| bkero-legacy | Hahaha ok | 01:33 |
| bkero-legacy | skdb bitches | 01:33 |
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| kanzure | but seriously- ybit, fenn, QuantumG, klafka, Noahj, drazak, nchaimov, nsh, Phreedom, etc. etc. | 01:34 |
| kanzure | if you could do the same that would be *hawt* | 01:34 |
| * bkero-legacy gives SU some singularity love for kanzure. | 01:35 | |
| fenn | bingo 403 | 01:35 |
| kanzure | fenn: try again | 01:36 |
| fenn | oh i was hoping it was a bunch of phrases like "exponentially increasing" or "trillion dollar economy" | 01:39 |
| fenn | or whatever they talk about.. i don't actually know | 01:39 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/singularity_university_bingo.pdf | 01:40 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/singularity_university_bingo.2.pdf | 01:40 |
| fenn | paul saffo sucks.. i don't get why he's a big shot intellectual | 01:40 |
| kanzure | give it about two minutes before it's done: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/singularity_university_bingo.3.pdf | 01:44 |
| kanzure | keep track of how many times "billion" shows up | 01:44 |
| * kanzure sleeps | 01:44 | |
| kanzure | ah it's done | 01:45 |
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| QuantumG | sent | 01:51 |
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| Utopiah | ( COMSOL Multiphysics finite element analysis, solver and Simulation software package http://www.comsol.com/conference/cd/ ) | 04:33 |
| Utopiah | not sure why a friend send that to me but since they model railguns, it must be cool http://www.comsol.com/showroom/gallery/2023/ | 04:35 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 08:24 |
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| parolang | What are you guys using for CAD? | 11:53 |
| kanzure | pythonocc | 11:55 |
| kanzure | machine that prints organs: http://www.economist.com/science-technology/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15543683 (i don't know where else to store this news item) | 12:19 |
| clemux | kanzure: I was wondering how you manage to keep your meet log, could I see the software you use? even if it's juste some simple scripts | 12:30 |
| clemux | if you don't mind :) | 12:39 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/ has everything i use | 12:52 |
| kanzure | clemux: ^ | 12:53 |
| kanzure | clemux: also, http://designfiles.org/~bryan/1kfriend.ly.pdf | 12:54 |
| clemux | oh, i didn't see parser.py :) | 13:05 |
| clemux | thanks | 13:05 |
| clemux | kanzure: so you fill meetlog.txt by hand? | 13:10 |
| kanzure | superkuh: what's up with http://superkuh.ath.cx/users/superkuh/ircurls.html ? | 13:17 |
| superkuh | What's wrong with it? I guess I understand some privacy issues. Do you want it blocked? | 13:18 |
| kanzure | clemux: yeah, but fenn pointed out that loading/dumping the YAML file doesn't significantly screw it up, so i'm going to write some scripts to integrate gmail, pidgin, and irssi soon | 13:18 |
| kanzure | superkuh: no, it's 403'd | 13:18 |
| superkuh | Oh, so I already blocked it. | 13:18 |
| kanzure | was just wondering what it was | 13:18 |
| superkuh | It's just an old dump of URLs I used for statistics of different networks. Someone wanted to look. I noticed after a while it was google bait and left it up to see what people searched. | 13:19 |
| kanzure | and why it showed up in an email to me | 13:19 |
| superkuh | And email? | 13:19 |
| kanzure | yes | 13:19 |
| kanzure | it looks like it was picked up by http://rapid4me.com/?f=10638347&t=Metal_Museum_-_Covered_in_Metal_1.zip& too | 13:19 |
| kanzure | what sort of statistics? sounds interesting | 13:20 |
| kanzure | hm: http://mail.singularityu.org/ | 13:22 |
| clemux | kanzure: okay; I was thinking of scripting something like that, but thought "wait, kanzure's probably done that already" | 13:29 |
| kanzure | hm i wonder if i should make a pidgin plugin or if i should just parse pidgin logs | 13:45 |
| kanzure | these are the important decisions to be made in life :P | 13:46 |
| * fenn murmurs in his sleep about [3~[3~[3~[3~[3~about g-tec intendix | 14:13 | |
| kanzure | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/syndicated-linux-news-67/lxer-open-source-hardware-takes-baby-steps-toward-the-gadget-mainstream-793127/ | 14:33 |
| kanzure | http://lifetheuniverseandrendering.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/open-source-hardware-and-inter-species-relations/ | 14:33 |
| kanzure | "Hugo Chavez Sends Army to Change All Lights in Venezuela to CFLs" http://www.inhabitat.com/2010/03/11/hugo-chavez-sends-army-to-change-all-lights-in-venezuela-to-cfls/#more-93871 | 14:35 |
| kanzure | be careful or else the lightbulb efficiency army will come out to get you | 14:36 |
| kanzure | $100 1.5TB hdd http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148412 | 15:03 |
| parolang | heh :) | 15:23 |
| parolang | 1.5TB :o | 15:23 |
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| jrayhawk | Their less horrifyingly unstable 7200.11 series is on sale for the same price with a promo code. | 15:38 |
| kanzure | "welcome to the future" (just in case, you know, you haven't heard about diybio and things for the past umpteen years) http://news.goldseek.com/MillenniumWaveAdvisors/1267981200.php | 16:56 |
| kanzure | "In regards to the DIY-Bio movement, one of attendees behind me said, “OK, does this mean in the future we buy 99-cent bio apps for our iBiophone?” Think about that for a second. Just a few years ago, the thought of 100,000 iPhone apps for a few bucks or even pennies or free seemed ridiculous. Now it is commonplace." | 16:57 |
| * kanzure wishes people would wake up and realize how much a load of shit they are wulfing down with the iphone | 16:58 | |
| kanzure | hm that same content appears here: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/03/welcome-to-the-future/ | 16:58 |
| kanzure | stalk: john mauldin | 16:58 |
| kanzure | notes from the biosecurity webcast: http://inkouper.blogspot.com/2010/03/biosecurity-webcast.html | 17:00 |
| kanzure | http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/03/diy_cleanroom_on_a_budget.html | 17:01 |
| kanzure | http://www.iheartrobotics.com/2010/02/this-new-lab-diy-cleanroom.html | 17:01 |
| kanzure | video tour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ6teMUtDD0 | 17:01 |
| kanzure | reshma shetty acting like she can teach diybio at MIT: http://effectiveclass.org/video/science-video/%C2%A0-biology/mit-do-it-yourself-biology | 17:03 |
| kanzure | Standard Virtual Biological Parts: A Repository of Modular Modeling | 17:04 |
| kanzure | Components for Synthetic Biology. [Bioinformatics. 2010] | 17:04 |
| kanzure | i wonder if that's more partsregistry.org spam | 17:04 |
| kanzure | diybio-auckland: http://goo.gl/Rset | 17:05 |
| kanzure | stalk: abhishek tiwari | 17:06 |
| kanzure | stalk: naveen joshi | 17:06 |
| kanzure | abhishek.twr@gmail.com | 17:08 |
| kanzure | i hate rob carlson | 17:09 |
| kanzure | http://healthystealthy.posterous.com/garage-biology-in-silicon-valley-synthesis | 17:09 |
| kanzure | "The people who built the lab pictured above are pursuing a project that is technically well beyond anything discussed on the DIYBio list" | 17:09 |
| kanzure | god damn, it's just schloendorn and livly.org :/ | 17:09 |
| kanzure | which, i might add, has been mentioned on the diybio list | 17:09 |
| kanzure | he even links to "Evidence of FBI raid on the home of Steve Kurtz of Critical Art Ensemble." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1vuVkxeJEs | 17:10 |
| kanzure | oh, actual link to rob's terrible article: http://www.synthesis.cc/2010/03/garage-biology-in-silicon-valley.html | 17:11 |
| kanzure | food hacking at sxsw on march 12 http://www.cookingforgeeks.com/blog/posts/sxsw-preview-food-hacking-101/ | 17:13 |
| kanzure | heh :) tux cookies http://www.cookingforgeeks.com/blog/posts/tux-cookies-cnc-printed-cookie-cutters/ | 17:14 |
| kanzure | fenn: why are you showing up at android meetups? | 17:19 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: do you know any articles on the interwebs that attempt to stab iphone "app store" fanbois in the face with things like dpkg/apt-get and debian? | 17:32 |
| jrayhawk | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=22698 | 17:47 |
| jrayhawk | But I think Cydia does a fair demonstration of just what a ghetto the app store is. | 17:48 |
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| kanzure | " Children inherit about 30 mutated genes from each parent" | 18:25 |
| kanzure | "Scientists previously had thought a child had about 75 mutated genes from the parents" | 18:25 |
| kanzure | abstract: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/sci;science.1186802v1?maxtoshow=&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=Galas&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=date&resourcetype=HWCIT | 18:26 |
| kanzure | seattle area: http://wiki.metrixcreatespace.com/start | 18:40 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 19:15 |
| ybit | hi JayDugger | 19:16 |
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| kanzure | who is edward you's contact at the CDC? | 19:35 |
| kanzure | what do you assjerks think of the name "opensciencefund.com"? | 19:37 |
| kanzure | jacob shiach (diybio-houston) just purchased it for us | 19:37 |
| kanzure | i need a roll-a-dex of creative insults to call you people | 19:38 |
| JayDugger | There's a fellow named Ken Scroggins in Hawai'i, a master of that form. Hire him to write you a list of insults. | 19:43 |
| kanzure | willyflappers | 19:45 |
| kanzure | but seriously, opensciencefund.com | 19:45 |
| JayDugger | open science fund, a .com or a .org, or did you get both? | 19:45 |
| kanzure | jacob got all | 19:45 |
| kanzure | except .net | 19:46 |
| JayDugger | I am known to have a tin ear in such matters. | 19:46 |
| kanzure | it actually sounds like a fairly good name | 19:46 |
| JayDugger | If I like it, that almost counts against it. | 19:46 |
| kanzure | well there's a lot of hype around "open science" | 19:46 |
| JayDugger | I'd ask P.J. Manney. She has a good ear for it, and might even know tools to track that phrase's popularity. | 19:46 |
| kanzure | oh i met pj once, very nice person | 19:47 |
| JayDugger | She seems it from on-line. | 19:47 |
| kanzure | apparently she worked on star wars too, so she's like a superhero in my bookm | 19:47 |
| kanzure | *book | 19:47 |
| JayDugger | Did you ever read Brin's critique of Star Wars? | 19:47 |
| kanzure | yeah i think fenn linked me to it | 19:48 |
| kanzure | it doesn't matter anyway, star wars was burned into my brain when i was a very young child (6 or 7) | 19:48 |
| JayDugger | You've time enough ahead of you to recover. ;) | 19:48 |
| JayDugger | BRB. | 19:49 |
| kanzure | i wonder if i should go to sxsw2 | 19:53 |
| kanzure | *sxsw | 19:53 |
| kanzure | gah the password to the cpanel to opensciencefund.com is absolutely terrible (it's one of those passwords that is specific to a domain of knowledge within science) | 19:54 |
| kanzure | like almost as bad as me setting my password to "posthuman2.0" | 19:54 |
| kanzure | also, why does cpanel even exist | 19:55 |
| JayDugger | SXSW--sure, if you've time and money for it. | 19:56 |
| JayDugger | Poor passwords abound. | 19:56 |
| kanzure | money? does it cost | 19:58 |
| JayDugger | I have no idea. | 19:58 |
| JayDugger | Certainly you'll have some expenses: food, travel, etc.. These might not amount to much, but I doubt they will equal zero. | 19:59 |
| kanzure | http://opensciencefund.org/ looks like he already chose to do wordpress :( | 20:00 |
| kanzure | i don't know why people feel the need to use blogging platforms for situations where custom software is probably going to be developed anyway | 20:00 |
| kanzure | i would be more impressed if he would have picked drupal or something, because at least then he could claim he was planning on using drupal plugins | 20:00 |
| jrayhawk | "foundation" would be a better word | 20:00 |
| kanzure | why | 20:01 |
| kanzure | hm i should have told him that gnusha already has hosting | 20:01 |
| kanzure | maybe i'll con him into pointing the DNS information over to bryan.svcs.cs.pdx.edu | 20:02 |
| jrayhawk | I assume you're attempting to promote a whole movement rather than necessarily just funding some open science projects. | 20:03 |
| kanzure | he wants to do kickstarter.com for diybio grants | 20:03 |
| jrayhawk | But yeah, you guys are very welcome to stick that sort of thing on astroboy. | 20:04 |
| kanzure | ha ha: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/brett/8-bit-cities-real-world-maps-that-look-like-80s-v?pos=3&ref=popular | 20:04 |
| kanzure | is that the server name? astroboy? | 20:04 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah. I probably never mentioned that before; sorry. | 20:04 |
| kanzure | i used to be mean to this newbie i knew and called him astroboy (as an insult) :P | 20:04 |
| kanzure | (few years down the road and he's a crackhead, but that's another story) | 20:04 |
| kanzure | java does that to you :( | 20:05 |
| jrayhawk | We're also hosting somebody called openrobotics. They wanted CMS help several years ago. | 20:05 |
| kanzure | hm, ann arbor area robotics club | 20:05 |
| kanzure | ybit: http://8bitnyc.com/ | 20:06 |
| kanzure | http://tilecache.org/ http://openlayers.org/ | 20:06 |
| jrayhawk | huh, i guess their domain died. now i feel all guilty for not helping them in time. | 20:07 |
| kanzure | i had this grand scheme for convincing jacob to make his icenine/opensciencefund.com idea a part of gnusha as a co-op/incubator angle | 20:07 |
| kanzure | in particular because if he can get science projects funded, then a tie-in with package management could be really cool | 20:08 |
| kanzure | like discounts on certain kits necessary to go through with the science project | 20:08 |
| JayDugger | Had? | 20:08 |
| kanzure | well i say "had" because discounts-on-kits feels insufficient for bringing him into the #hplusroadmap void | 20:09 |
| JayDugger | WMS Tiling--how odd. | 20:09 |
| kanzure | or into gnusha in general | 20:09 |
| JayDugger | I just bitched to a former co-worker about a badly chosen set of tiles showing the geography near Lafayette, LA. | 20:09 |
| kanzure | wait maybe i am confusing brian degger and jacob shiach and their individual plans | 20:09 |
| JayDugger | Haven't you a prosthesis to help keep humans straight? | 20:10 |
| kanzure | "# Launch alpha 1.0 version of site with the coop store and ability to sponsor projects" | 20:10 |
| kanzure | "This will be essentially be a nicely built online co-op for kits" | 20:10 |
| kanzure | ok sounds like gnusha to me. nevermind :) | 20:10 |
| kanzure | but i don't know what a "co-op for kits" means | 20:11 |
| kanzure | jacob got this estimate from some python developers that wanted to charge him $5k upfront and $40k in total for this website | 20:11 |
| kanzure | does anyone want to snatch up openpcr.org before tito does? | 20:12 |
| kanzure | http://biohouston.org/ | 20:13 |
| JayDugger | http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2010/03/if-you-could-know-only-one-statistic-about-an-alien-civilization.html | 20:29 |
| jrayhawk | I'm sitting next to some Django-oriented developers if you want quotes or anyhing. | 20:30 |
| kanzure | um, no, i can do it myself | 20:35 |
| kanzure | actually go ahead and get the quote anyway | 20:36 |
| kanzure | i would guestimate that they say $100 | 20:36 |
| kanzure | anything higher and they are a bunch of hipsters | 20:36 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: btw, this is in part what i was hoping to use (something like) piny for | 20:39 |
| jrayhawk | I don't really know what-all is involved in this particular site; the guys I'm with are used to doing some crazy expansive projects. | 20:39 |
| kanzure | expansive or expensive | 20:40 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah, I'd like to provision piny for small simple sites that are normally done in massive, terrible, insecure dynamic CMS engines. | 20:40 |
| jrayhawk | expansive becomes expensive | 20:40 |
| kanzure | i liked jules observation that "they aren't slow, they are 'dynamic'" :) | 20:41 |
| kanzure | jules' | 20:41 |
| jrayhawk | speaking of which they want me to install a wsgi server WHAT SHOULD I USE | 20:41 |
| kanzure | who is they | 20:42 |
| jrayhawk | the django folks | 20:42 |
| kanzure | mod_wsgi for apache is one option that keeps popping up, and there's one for lighttpd | 20:42 |
| kanzure | er doesn't django have its own custom wsgi server | 20:42 |
| jrayhawk | Huh. I wonder if I shuld just proxy over to that. | 20:43 |
| kanzure | why are they asking for wsgi? | 20:44 |
| kanzure | are they hosting a django project and don't want to use the python django server? | 20:44 |
| jrayhawk | I'll go ask why. | 20:44 |
| kanzure | "it's been here ever since the great turtle climbed out of the sea with the earth on its back" | 20:52 |
| jrayhawk | Are you talking about http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.0/ref/django-admin/#runserver ? | 20:57 |
| jrayhawk | Because there are a fair list of problems, there... | 20:57 |
| kanzure | mod_wsgi then i guess | 20:58 |
| kanzure | i'm not aware of the problems though | 20:58 |
| jrayhawk | single threaded, doesn't cache anything, "It has not gone through security audits or performance tests", doesn't seem to do any logging, etc. | 21:00 |
| kanzure | single threaded O_o | 21:00 |
| jrayhawk | It's supposedly designed for development. | 21:00 |
| kanzure | no logging either? hrm | 21:01 |
| jrayhawk | exclusively, that is. | 21:02 |
| kanzure | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvm9gL4KVQg "Alpha particle detector, made from a webcamera. " | 21:02 |
| kanzure | "Elsevier took payments from Merck, Sharp & Dohme in order to publish in essence a fake journal designed to promote its products, and then got caught doing it again." | 21:03 |
| kanzure | http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/05/when_big_pharma_pays_a_publisher_to_publ.php | 21:03 |
| kanzure | http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/05/quoth_elsevier_whoops_i_did_it_again_six.php | 21:03 |
| kanzure | those last three from: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/03/elsevier_to_medical_hypotheses_editor_br.php | 21:03 |
| kanzure | "or example, Mark Blaxill published pseudoscientific speculation that vaccines cause autism, and the anti-vaccine movement trumpeted Blaxill's paper for the next several years as "evidence" in a "peer-reviewed journal" (more on that later) that vaccines cause autism." | 21:04 |
| kanzure | oh wonderful | 21:04 |
| kanzure | "Nor do most people--even scientists-- have any idea of some of the other amusingly (and not-so-amusingly) wacky "hypotheses" published in MH, such as ideas that masturbation is a treatment for nasal congestion" | 21:05 |
| kanzure | "a paper linking high heeled shoes to schizophrenia" | 21:05 |
| kanzure | "a meditation on the nature of navel fluff" | 21:05 |
| ybit | thanks kanzure, learned about http://openlayers.org/ because of 8bitnyc.com | 21:07 |
| kanzure | ybit: can you turn off hplusbot's command bullshit | 21:07 |
| kanzure | !apt-get install bullshit | 21:07 |
| hplusbot | kanzure: Error: "apt-get" is not a valid command. | 21:07 |
| kanzure | see? | 21:07 |
| ybit | guess so | 21:08 |
| katsmeow-afk | make the bot respond only when spoken to? | 21:08 |
| kanzure | why, it doesn't do anything anyway except log | 21:09 |
| kanzure | you might as well just have an irssi session open to log to a text file instead of some silly bot | 21:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | i figured ybit might add useful !commands later | 21:09 |
| katsmeow-afk | <shrug> | 21:09 |
| ybit | !fuck-off | 21:09 |
| hplusbot | ybit: Error: "fuck-off" is not a valid command. | 21:09 |
| ybit | damn | 21:09 |
| ybit | hplusbot: disable commands | 21:10 |
| hplusbot | ybit: The operation succeeded. | 21:10 |
| ybit | !orly? | 21:10 |
| hplusbot | ybit: Error: "orly?" is not a valid command. | 21:10 |
| kanzure | ybit: just stop using a bot you don't know how to control | 21:10 |
| jrayhawk | you'll never cause the singularity with that sort of attitude | 21:10 |
| ybit | :) | 21:11 |
| katsmeow-afk | speaking of such, htf does one use dbpedia? | 21:11 |
| kanzure | is it too much to ask to rtfm | 21:11 |
| kanzure | katsmeow-afk: it just has articles that list databases IIRC | 21:11 |
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| katsmeow-afk | which seem to be down, in non-standard formats, etc etc | 21:12 |
| * katsmeow-afk strikes dbpedia off thelist of "what's useful" | 21:12 | |
| kanzure | there is one article on it on bioinformatics databases that dan bolser (faceface) used to maintain | 21:12 |
| QuantumG | http://www.willowgarage.com/blog/2010/02/01/lots-texas-robots | 21:13 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: do you have opinions or technical insight into lighttpd vs. apache? :/ | 21:14 |
| kanzure | i've been wary of suggesting apache for super-high-volume sites just because of how bulky it is | 21:17 |
| kanzure | but that might be because i took the long route for learning how to use it well | 21:17 |
| kanzure | someone wants me to do their homework for them: http://userweb.cs.utexas.edu/~mitra/csSpring2010/cs313/assgn/assgn5.html | 21:22 |
| kanzure | it's not hard, but it's annoyingly long and java, so .. yeah. | 21:23 |
| kanzure | twitter dataset among others: http://www.public.asu.edu/~mdechoud/datasets.html | 21:27 |
| kanzure | cool, temporal social network topology | 21:27 |
| kanzure | the twitter dataset is 525MB http://www.public.asu.edu/~mdechoud/data/twitter_data.zip | 21:28 |
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| katsmeow-afk | The total number of user-user links in the social graph is about $56,000 | 21:33 |
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| genehacker | so you going to dorkbot kanzure? | 21:44 |
| kanzure | maybe if i find it | 21:45 |
| jrayhawk | I'd be afraid of recommending anything but apache for high volume sites. | 21:45 |
| jrayhawk | Lighttpd doesn't really have nice built-in "test this configuration file for me before i restart you" facilities, and generally its failures modes are more catastrophic than apache's. | 21:46 |
| kanzure | does apache have that feature? testing before restarting | 21:46 |
| jrayhawk | yes, /etc/init.d/apache2 works that way, even | 21:47 |
| kanzure | huh? there's only restart and such on there | 21:47 |
| jrayhawk | lighttpd also is constantly pissing me off with a lack of features, or half-implemented features | 21:48 |
| jrayhawk | that said, i use it for its much more sensible configuration format | 21:49 |
| jrayhawk | re: "only restart and such" | 21:50 |
| jrayhawk | reload | force-reload) | 21:50 |
| jrayhawk | if ! $APACHE2CTL configtest > /dev/null 2>&1; then | 21:50 |
| jrayhawk | oh yeah, and there's that whole "graceful reload" thing apache does that lighttpd definitely does not. | 21:50 |
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| kanzure | oh is configtest just for checking syntax? | 21:50 |
| jrayhawk | And other static checks. | 21:51 |
| JayDugger | Good night, all. Time to concentrate IRL. | 21:51 |
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| jrayhawk | lighttpd also has a mediocre security track record | 21:54 |
| jrayhawk | have you played around much with nginx? | 21:54 |
| kanzure | no | 21:54 |
| kanzure | not at all | 21:54 |
| genehacker | if you find it? | 21:54 |
| genehacker | http://dorkbot.org/dorkbotaustin/2010/02/dorkbot-23-sxsw-interactive-2010/ | 21:55 |
| jrayhawk | I've been meaning to. It looks like its satsifying lighttpd's use cases (proxying, fastcgi) more elegantly than lighttpd. | 21:57 |
| jrayhawk | And by "more elegantly" I mean "with even the slightest level of forethought and understanding of HTTP" | 21:58 |
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| kanzure | http://gitorious.com/webber Webber (Python based static website generator like IkiWiki) | 22:43 |
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| kanzure | so maybe i'm missing the point | 23:05 |
| kanzure | http://gitorious.org/~jameysharp/gitorious/federation/blobs/master/app/models/repository.rb | 23:05 |
| kanzure | but why is ActiveRecord being used at all | 23:06 |
| kanzure | doesn't that mean that gitorious is using an SQL backend for managing repositories? what's the point of that | 23:06 |
| kanzure | i've been reading this and can't stand ruby developers: http://www.rubyinside.com/no-true-mod_ruby-is-damaging-rubys-viability-on-the-web-693.html | 23:27 |
| kanzure | it's just the way they talk i guess? | 23:27 |
| kanzure | maybe useful: http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2007/07/web-hosting-landscape-and-modwsgi.html | 23:47 |
| kanzure | "The second problem is that although in mod_wsgi distinct Python sub interpreters are used to keep different applications separate, this isn't fool proof. Problems can arise where different applications attempt to use different versions of a particular C extension module, as Python only loads C extensions once for the whole process and not separately for each sub interpreter." | 23:48 |
| kanzure | (that's for "embedded mode" of mod_wsgi) | 23:49 |
| kanzure | i wonder how apache knows the password to the 'trac' user? http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/IntegrationWithTrac | 23:57 |
| kanzure | particularly at the line that says: WSGIDaemonProcess site-1 user=trac group=trac threads=25 | 23:57 |
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