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| ToyKeeper | 'lo. | 00:06 |
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| ToyKeeper | I'm not entirely sure why I'm here. I think fenn knows, though. :) | 00:06 |
| ToyKeeper | Also... kanzure: I recognize your nick, but I don't remember why. All I can find in my logs was something vague from July 2006. Any clue what that was about? | 00:11 |
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| kanzure | fenn: oh, i know ToyKeeper | 03:06 |
| kanzure | oh hi ToyKeeper | 03:06 |
| kanzure | it might have been about woody, hnb or python | 03:07 |
| kanzure | https://openhatch.org/ how is this different from ohouhl | 03:09 |
| kanzure | ToyKeeper: see 20060705171829.GD5339@SerDevian.XYZZ.org | 03:14 |
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| kanzure | fenn: "who to meet next" is mostly a count based off of the number of times that other people have told me to meet each person | 03:18 |
| * kanzure goes back to sleep (now that that the buzzing is out of his ears) | 03:22 | |
| kanzure | hm, or i could implement spaced repetition- that is very tempting | 03:23 |
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| JayDugger1 | ybit: Do you know the Army has a prize for iPhone apps? | 07:02 |
| ybit | really? | 07:04 |
| ybit | nope | 07:04 |
| ybit | hrm, linkage? | 07:04 |
| JayDugger1 | Fits your business models. | 07:04 |
| JayDugger1 | Yeah, hang on... | 07:04 |
| JayDugger1 | (eating) | 07:04 |
| ybit | heh, i think the 'business models' page can be ignored, one of the members just wanted to make a page i do believe :-) | 07:05 |
| ybit | there is a section called business models on the money wiki page | 07:05 |
| JayDugger1 | That's the one I meant. | 07:06 |
| ybit | gotcha | 07:06 |
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| JayDugger1 | http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htcbtsp/articles/20100318.aspx | 07:16 |
| JayDugger1 | Okay, that's a brief news piece. Yes, it's an masterwork of bad website design. | 07:16 |
| ybit | thanks JayDugger1, i'll check it out | 07:17 |
| ybit | kanzure, genehacker: League of Professional System Administrators | 07:17 |
| ybit | Austin Perl Mongers | 07:17 |
| ybit | The Robot Group | 07:17 |
| ybit | Hacking Society | 07:17 |
| ybit | all in austin | 07:17 |
| ybit | linked from http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Confusion_Research_Center | 07:17 |
| ybit | also in austin | 07:17 |
| ybit | s/linked/mentioned | 07:17 |
| ybit | JayDugger1: are you in austin as well? | 07:17 |
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| kanzure | ybit: yes i'm aware of those groups | 08:35 |
| kanzure | james choate runs Confusion Research Center, and in general he sholuld be avoided | 08:35 |
| kanzure | *should | 08:35 |
| kanzure | he was banned from extropy-chat yesterday | 08:36 |
| ybit | why? | 08:36 |
| kanzure | he's a troll | 08:38 |
| kanzure | even if you give him some attention he just trolls you some more, always | 08:39 |
| kanzure | originally he was trying to setup "Confusion Research Center" in les' shop | 08:40 |
| kanzure | but in the process tried to take over the entire operation and pissed les off | 08:41 |
| kanzure | actually i have too many stories so i'm going to stop | 08:41 |
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| klafka | isn't there already a hackerspcae in austin | 09:03 |
| kanzure | austin hackerspace was only started on 2010-01-02 | 09:07 |
| kanzure | james choate has been trying to convince people to do his CRC since 1991 | 09:07 |
| Redeemer | Seems like a few are popping up recently | 09:08 |
| kanzure | do we know anyone from the RIT make club? | 09:11 |
| kanzure | also, it looks like they finally posted an article about the 2010-03-17 event | 09:11 |
| kanzure | http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/03/opening_hardware_at_eyebeam.html | 09:11 |
| kanzure | oh nothing new | 09:12 |
| kanzure | damn it. i hate these people | 09:12 |
| klafka | i know some people in the RIT make club | 09:12 |
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| kanzure | klafka: linkage or namedropping please | 09:25 |
| Utopiah | kanzure feeds on links, not blurry data :-# | 09:25 |
| klafka | hahaha | 09:26 |
| klafka | let me ask therochester hackerspace who there is in it | 09:26 |
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| ToyKeeper | kanzure: Thanks, now I remember. :) | 11:15 |
| ToyKeeper | kanzure: You might find TKDO and vimoutliner interesting... http://toykeeper.net/programs/tkdo/ | 11:16 |
| ToyKeeper | At least, I find them more useful than hnb or woody ever were. | 11:21 |
| ToyKeeper | I've come to better appreciate the simplicity and flexibility of plain text. | 11:21 |
| ToyKeeper | ... and have added some of the things you asked about years ago. | 11:22 |
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| kanzure | ToyKeeper: ybit is an avid fan of emacs org-mode | 11:37 |
| kanzure | ToyKeeper: in 2006 or 2007 i stopped using hnb because it was killing me. http://heybryan.org/todo.html | 11:37 |
| kanzure | "If you have a lot of todo lists scattered across many directories or even multiple computers, TKDO is useful as a "master list" to access all your lists at once. I like to keep a todo list in each project directory, and TKDO makes it easier for me to track all my projects from a single place." | 11:39 |
| kanzure | in the mean time, i haven't had a proper todo list system because "i'm off that crack" | 11:39 |
| kanzure | and instead i've been putting plaintext files in ~/todo/ and sometimes with symlinks to todo lists in various projects | 11:39 |
| kanzure | ftr, i guess i consider supermemo to also be crack | 11:40 |
| jrayhawk | I tend to store all my todos in various ikiwikis and aggregate them to my inbox with rss2email such that i notice when other people edit them | 11:45 |
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| kanzure | the problem with todo lists is that it's a lot like documentation | 11:46 |
| kanzure | documentation usually takes 2x time or adds 2x time | 11:46 |
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| kanzure | at first, maintaining a todo list took only a few minutes a day | 11:46 |
| kanzure | but then it started to eat up 3 to 4h/day | 11:47 |
| kanzure | way, way too much overhead | 11:47 |
| jrayhawk | It's helpful to trick clients into maintaining them. | 11:47 |
| kanzure | what is this black magic you speak of | 11:47 |
| jrayhawk | I tend to have an ikiwiki for each of my clients, and they want me to do something, they provide the descripion and priority. | 11:48 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: in django and other python projects they have something nifty called a sandbox(?) or something | 11:50 |
| kanzure | i can't remember the exact term | 11:50 |
| kanzure | sometimes it's stupid, and you load up a specific .bashrc for developing a project | 11:50 |
| ToyKeeper | Yeah, I stopped doing xml todo lists because it just wasn't working after a while. | 11:51 |
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| ToyKeeper | I found myself making plain text files to track stuff which actually mattered, and putting the rest of the crap in xml where I never had to see it. | 11:51 |
| kanzure | i wonder if a system-wide todo tracker/aggregator that sends you into those environments would be nifty. "[ ] improve user authentication bullshit in xyz project" *enter* -> bash environment configured to development in that project dir | 11:51 |
| ToyKeeper | I find a project's context load time is usually small enough and unique enough that it's not worth making a tool do it for me. | 11:52 |
| kanzure | how many parallel projects are you doing though | 11:53 |
| ToyKeeper | At the moment, there are 47 projects big/recent enough that I've given them their own list, and a few hundred others on hold. | 11:53 |
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| ToyKeeper | ... plus an entire different set for work. | 11:54 |
| kanzure | ToyKeeper: on an unrelated note, i think you might like this particular project of mine: | 11:54 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/meetlog.txt | 11:54 |
| ToyKeeper | I tend to make a desktop, open a project on it, then leave it open until it's done... kind of a bad habit though. I end up with 500+ windows open at once. | 11:54 |
| kanzure | er, if you refresh, you get today's updates (forgot to upload) | 11:55 |
| kanzure | do individual desktops (like in kde or gnome) have the ability to be saved/loaded? i've never bothered to try to reduce my window load | 11:55 |
| kanzure | graphs for the meetlog: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/2009-10-01_to_2010-03-01.png | 11:56 |
| ToyKeeper | I'm using sawfish, and don't have a means of loading desktops... however, I do make it save a complete window tree every time something changes. | 11:56 |
| ToyKeeper | (this is mostly so I can restore my session manually after Xorg crashes) | 11:56 |
| jrayhawk | KDE has lots of fancy session management stuff, at least. | 11:56 |
| jrayhawk | Including automatic checkpointing and restoring. | 11:56 |
| kanzure | including interesting graphs per person: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/graphs/jason_wohlfahrt.png | 11:57 |
| ToyKeeper | Session management requires all your apps to support it. But ... I count a total of zero apps I use which support it. | 11:57 |
| kanzure | and a tag cloud of what i talk about with people: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/tags.html | 11:57 |
| kanzure | plus clouds of related clouds (what people talk about when they talk about a certain tag) http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/clouds/%23hplusroadmap.html | 11:57 |
| Utopiah | would be cool to have as overlay the "authors" of each word | 11:58 |
| ToyKeeper | Like, if I added session management to rxvt-unicode, added a way for xterms to communicate large amounts of data to the shells they're running, and added session management to zsh... that would be a good start. | 11:58 |
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| jrayhawk | It doesn't *require* application support, but it sure helps, yeah. | 11:59 |
| kanzure | Utopiah: but multiple people are tagged with those words usually | 11:59 |
| Utopiah | yes, hence the plural | 11:59 |
| ToyKeeper | jrayhawk: Opening 250 xterms with fresh shells... isn't what I'd call useful session management. | 11:59 |
| kanzure | Utopiah: i should definitely do a per-person stats page with (1) their tag cloud, (2) their communication charts, (3) contact details; and each tag-cloud-for-a-tag page should have a list of people that use it (or a tag cloud of people with their relative weights based on how frequently they use the tag) | 12:00 |
| ToyKeeper | When I'm behaving, I'll remember to close stuff and save their relevant state to a file. | 12:01 |
| kanzure | why doesn't .bash_history act like that by default | 12:01 |
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| ToyKeeper | Usually this means 'echo "http://foo" >> ~/path/to/my/project/urls"' for each browser tab/window, and making sure the project's todo tree is updated. | 12:02 |
| kanzure | heh | 12:02 |
| kanzure | i have a custom script called "url" which auto-adds a url to the url.txt file | 12:02 |
| kanzure | usually each folder on my system has a url.txt file which is just a giant dump of links related to the project and things i've been reading | 12:02 |
| ToyKeeper | Yeah, similar here. I just don't see the need to script 'echo >>'. | 12:03 |
| kanzure | seems like you do something similar? | 12:03 |
| kanzure | yay | 12:03 |
| kanzure | yeah i started to realize that i will not be able to remember where i found half this shit, especially when i download weird projects and weird source | 12:03 |
| ToyKeeper | The todo trees are just plain text with indentation. Special markup denotes tasks, status, due dates, importance, and other stuff. | 12:04 |
| ToyKeeper | TKDO handles the extra markup to give me things like a calendar, a flat auto-prioritized list, reminders, etc. | 12:04 |
| kanzure | i remember trying out this todofs (??) thing back in 2006, but for some reason it was using a .todo file in project dirs? this isn't very descriptive, i know | 12:05 |
| ToyKeeper | It logs actions so I can look up later what I was doing. | 12:05 |
| ToyKeeper | ... and one of the most useful things it has is a "snooze" button. | 12:05 |
| kanzure | do you store .bash_history in local project directories? | 12:05 |
| ToyKeeper | It's still kind of clunky overall, but it's a lot better than anything else I've tried. | 12:05 |
| ToyKeeper | I don't store shell history. | 12:05 |
| kanzure | ToyKeeper: so, meetlog.txt is my attempt at keeping track of who i talk with and when (possibly to implement spaced repetition on top of them) | 12:09 |
| kanzure | i find myself writing ridiculously long emails to a lot of people | 12:10 |
| kanzure | but usually these emails are personalized and the next day i see someone else that i should have sent the email to | 12:10 |
| kanzure | so, i've been working on a way to automatically generate personalized emails | 12:10 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/1kfriend.ly.pdf is the 1-page prospectus (sorta kinda) | 12:10 |
| kanzure | these are personalized "push"/"update" emails, not everyday communication stuff | 12:11 |
| ToyKeeper | lol :) | 12:11 |
| ToyKeeper | /topic <kanzure> so, i've been working on a way to automatically generate personalized emails | 12:11 |
| ToyKeeper | I tend to put floating recurring tasks into a 'personal' or 'people' taskfile... like "call susan", with a recur time of 6 weeks. | 12:12 |
| ToyKeeper | Every time I do it, I can check it off, it goes automatically in my log, and the task will disappear for a few weeks. Then it starts bubbling back up to the top of the list. | 12:13 |
| kanzure | http://etacts.com/ is a ycombinator-funded startup that does that by analyzing gmail.com inboxes (recurring communication frequency stuff) | 12:13 |
| ToyKeeper | BTW, how does meetlog.txt get updated? | 12:16 |
| kanzure | manually, but that was only because i incorrectly assumed that yaml mangled the order of the data upon load/dump | 12:17 |
| kanzure | it was only recently that fenn made me actually try doing a yaml load/dump cycle on it | 12:17 |
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| ToyKeeper | If keeping a record requires an extra step, I don't do it. | 12:17 |
| kanzure | soon i'll probably be writing plugins to auto-update from my inbox, pidgin, irc client, etc. | 12:17 |
| ToyKeeper | I may intend to, and I may try really hard, but it never lasts. | 12:17 |
| ToyKeeper | The reason fenn invited me was because I graphed my chat logs from 2001 until present, to measure my sleep cycles. | 12:19 |
| ToyKeeper | http://toykeeper.net/tmp/sleep-wake_2001-2010.png | 12:19 |
| kanzure | i saw :) | 12:19 |
| ToyKeeper | 'k. | 12:19 |
| ToyKeeper | Logs and records are great, but only when they happen automatically as a side effect of actually doing stuff. | 12:19 |
| kanzure | right | 12:20 |
| ToyKeeper | (though a telepathic computing interface could make manual logging a lot easier) | 12:20 |
| ToyKeeper | Anyway, I've still got lots of stuff to add but, as is, I finally have a task/reminder system which works well enough that I don't hate it. | 12:29 |
| ToyKeeper | ... which reminds me. Today I need to go through my tkdo log to generate a progress report at work. | 12:35 |
| Utopiah | btw there is ##pim for personnal information management (orgmode, wikis, logs, ...) | 12:35 |
| ToyKeeper | Yup, I'm probably way off topic. | 12:36 |
| Utopiah | Im not suggesting so | 12:36 |
| Utopiah | Im just pointing that there is a channel with people who want to talk about just that, including me ;) | 12:36 |
| kanzure | utopiah likes to mention other relevant channels from time to time | 12:36 |
| ToyKeeper | I just can't remember stuff so I augment heavily with hard drives and 'grep' and other misc tools. | 12:36 |
| ToyKeeper | Maybe I can recruit some people from ##pim to add the features I've been too lazy/busy to do myself. :) | 12:37 |
| Utopiah | there is fund and feature request page of its wiki | 12:37 |
| ToyKeeper | I've got stuff hosted on launchpad, but none of my users are interested in contributing beyond occasional bug reports and feature requests. | 12:38 |
| Utopiah | sharing my little graph too http://fabien.benetou.fr/Content/Exercises | 12:41 |
| ToyKeeper | My attention span is about this big... --> . <-- but I suppose I may as well join anyway. :) | 12:41 |
| ToyKeeper | It's kind of hard to pay attention to ~25 channels on 11 networks all at once, plus various web-based news feeds. | 12:45 |
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| ToyKeeper | kanzure: I'm amused that your calendar has events scheduled all the way until 2085. | 13:00 |
| Utopiah | LongNow would advertize using 02085 http://www.longnow.org/clock/ ;) | 13:01 |
| ToyKeeper | Leading zeroes aren't terribly useful. | 13:02 |
| ToyKeeper | Now, omitting non-zero digits like "95" instead of "1995"... that's a mistake. | 13:02 |
| kanzure | i used to do leading zeroes because longnow.org told me to | 13:05 |
| kanzure | wow searching for aggregate tags is really depressing in my meetlog dataset | 13:07 |
| kanzure | ["diybio", "skdb"] -> [mackenzie cowell, nathan mccorkle, jacob shiach, ryan ogle] | 13:08 |
| kanzure | i find it very hard to believe that those are the only people that i have talked with about both diybio and skdb | 13:08 |
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| ToyKeeper | I must admit to hardcoding a 4-digit year in some programs. | 13:17 |
| ToyKeeper | OTOH, if those programs are still in use in 7990 years, society has worse problems than dealing with an extra digit! | 13:17 |
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| kanzure | http://nextbigfuture.com/2010/03/will-nasa-wise-space-telescope-find.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2Fadvancednano+(nextbigfuture)&utm_content=Yahoo!+Mail | 14:03 |
| kanzure | "Part of the WISE mission is to search for brown dwarfs, and NASA expects it could find one thousand of the dim stellar objects within 25 light years of our solar system." | 14:03 |
| kanzure | 4.5ly on average between dwarfs | 14:04 |
| kanzure | eh i guess it feels sorta accurate | 14:47 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/recommended_tags_and_things_to_talk_about.dat | 14:47 |
| kanzure | these are tags that are recommended for each person based off of similarity to other data | 14:47 |
| kanzure | so apparently i talk to QuantumG a lot about stuff that is somehow related to "spread of intelligence to the universe" | 14:48 |
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| kanzure | the listing for max more is quite peculiar | 14:50 |
| QuantumG | apparently | 14:54 |
| kanzure | full listing: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/recommended_tags_and_things_to_talk_about.v2.dat | 15:11 |
| ToyKeeper | BTW, what language(s) are you using to calculate this? | 15:16 |
| kanzure | various and poorly written python scripts http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/parser.py | 15:18 |
| ToyKeeper | I wonder how many people I've talked to online this year. | 15:22 |
| ToyKeeper | ... apparently 605 people, counting IRC and IM. | 15:26 |
| ToyKeeper | 272 of them for more than 10 lines. | 15:27 |
| kanzure | for IRC, is more-than-10-lines via PM? | 15:28 |
| ToyKeeper | Total, not all in one batch. | 15:28 |
| ToyKeeper | Rather, I should say... 605 nicks appear within 2 lines of mine in my logs. | 15:29 |
| kanzure | blah my regex-fu is weak, how do i move matched content to the beginning (or anywhere, for that matter) of the line | 15:32 |
| QuantumG | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7479287/British-boy-becomes-first-in-the-world-to-have-stem-cell-transplant.html | 15:32 |
| kanzure | that sounds unlikely ("first") | 15:32 |
| QuantumG | yeah, their idea of "first" is odd | 15:32 |
| QuantumG | but the article is interesting | 15:32 |
| ToyKeeper | kanzure: ... like... perl -pe '/(\w+)_(\w+)/$2_$1/;' foo.txt ? | 15:33 |
| ToyKeeper | (should replace 'blah_foo' with 'foo_blah' in 'foo.txt') | 15:34 |
| Utopiah | http://www.regular-expressions.info/ | 15:34 |
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| ToyKeeper | cheat sheet: http://toykeeper.net/tmp/regex.table | 15:37 |
| kanzure | ended up with :%s/^\([0-9a-zA-Z ].*\)\s\([0-9].*\)$/\2 \1/g | 15:50 |
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| kanzure | hello jkridner|work | 15:58 |
| jkridner|work | hi. | 15:59 |
| jkridner|work | I'd love to get BeagleBoard design materials into SKDB. | 15:59 |
| kanzure | ah you must be the beagleboard mentor? | 15:59 |
| kanzure | yay | 15:59 |
| jkridner|work | yup. | 15:59 |
| kanzure | well that sounds absolutely fantastic | 15:59 |
| jkridner|work | not sure what'd need to be done. | 16:00 |
| jkridner|work | found out about the project thanks to Texas Linux Fest. | 16:00 |
| kanzure | are you in the area? | 16:00 |
| jkridner|work | I work out of Houston. | 16:01 |
| jkridner|work | I'm remote most of the time though these days. | 16:01 |
| jkridner|work | I'm in Dallas as often as Houston. | 16:01 |
| jkridner|work | and on the road as often as either. | 16:01 |
| kanzure | cool :) well glad to see you found openmanufacturing | 16:02 |
| jkridner|work | I think I'd run across it before, but didn't notice SKDB. | 16:02 |
| * jkridner|work wonders if anyone here has a RepRap. :) | 16:03 | |
| kanzure | so, to put beagleboard stuff into an skdb package there's primarily two bits needed: (1) schematics, CAD, whatever; (2) relevant instructions and documentation to massage into the package | 16:04 |
| * jkridner|work keeps dreaming about making BeagleBoard cases with a RepRap. | 16:04 | |
| jkridner|work | k. | 16:04 |
| kanzure | a few of us have a reprap. i've been too cheap and haven't built/bought one yet | 16:04 |
| jkridner|work | all the materials are at http://beagleboard.org/hardware/design, but I'm sure there are some formatting/etc. requirements. | 16:04 |
| jkridner|work | perhaps i can learn here about more open CAD tools. | 16:05 |
| jkridner|work | Allegro ain't cheap. | 16:05 |
| kanzure | yeah the BOM will have to be flipped around and changed a bit | 16:06 |
| kanzure | it seems to be in a .xls file (of all things!) | 16:06 |
| kanzure | cool a release announcement: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/msg/ee3e1bc927551ffc | 16:06 |
| kanzure | jkridner|work: ever work with gEDA? | 16:07 |
| jkridner|work | nope, but at least I've heard of it. :) | 16:08 |
| * kanzure tries to poke fenn awake | 16:08 | |
| jkridner|work | I'm on #beagle just about every day. | 16:12 |
| QuantumG | anyone done a battery powered beagle? What kind of operating life do they get out of em? | 16:12 |
| jkridner|work | sure. if you don't do anything to turn on the power management, you are typically going to consume about 2W. | 16:13 |
| jkridner|work | I use the battery packs that take 2xAA for recharging phones that take USB chargers. | 16:14 |
| kanzure | jkridner|work: before i leave for any significant amount of time, here's an example of what skdb packages currently look like: http://designfiles.org/packages/lego/metadata.yaml | 16:14 |
| jkridner|work | I haven't done it in a while to remember how long it lasted, but it was several hours. | 16:14 |
| kanzure | imho, the most important part of the metadata is the dependencies | 16:14 |
| kanzure | the template stuff is archaic and probably useless | 16:15 |
| jkridner|work | kanzure: is that something I should publish on beagleboard.org? | 16:15 |
| kanzure | huh? communication error | 16:15 |
| kanzure | what is 'that'? | 16:15 |
| kanzure | the metadata.yaml file at the moment is probably not worth publishing before you get a second opinion from someone else in here | 16:16 |
| jkridner|work | a metadata.yaml file. would I try to produce one that would then get sucked into the central database? | 16:16 |
| kanzure | pretty much | 16:16 |
| jkridner|work | k. | 16:16 |
| kanzure | btw, skdb is poorly named- there is no database | 16:16 |
| kanzure | all hardware packages are just .git repositories | 16:16 |
| jkridner|work | really? | 16:16 |
| kanzure | at some point you'll create a .git repository and commit the data from beagleboard | 16:17 |
| kanzure | yeah :) | 16:17 |
| jkridner|work | ok, but is there a central .git repo where I can get a bunch of useful designs where people try to push their designs? | 16:17 |
| kanzure | i have an index of packages on designfiles.org yeah | 16:17 |
| kanzure | but each package is an individual .git repo | 16:17 |
| kanzure | presumably with the right setup, anyone can just push a new repository etc. etc. | 16:17 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: this is where you start yelling at me | 16:17 |
| kanzure | hmph maybe not | 16:18 |
| jkridner|work | I'd think there must be one place where I can go to try to find a list of designs I can use. | 16:18 |
| kanzure | by default the skdb client ("skdb-get.py") is configured to look at designfiles.org/packages/ | 16:18 |
| kanzure | skdb is a lot like apt-get | 16:19 |
| jkridner|work | QuantumG: if you turn on power management, you can retain state on a BeagleBoard (depending on LED statuses, HDMI output, etc.) @ <100mW. | 16:20 |
| kanzure | that's a neat trick | 16:20 |
| QuantumG | interesting | 16:20 |
| jkridner|work | kanzure: well, apt-get has feeds for a distro. I'd hope there would be some kind of "CAD distro". | 16:21 |
| kanzure | we're working on it :) | 16:22 |
| kanzure | the more people yell at me and/or fenn, the more likely it will be usable sooner | 16:22 |
| kanzure | (i am serious) | 16:22 |
| jkridner|work | http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Power_management | 16:22 |
| jkridner|work | 8mW with some board mods. | 16:22 |
| jkridner|work | kanzure: understood. | 16:23 |
| jkridner|work | get the format first and make it work.... | 16:23 |
| jkridner|work | once that is understood, the value for a central repository will emerge. | 16:23 |
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| QuantumG | well, I guess what I'm saying is that I'd love to see an off-the-shelf beagleboard optimized for battery use.. and if they could sell it with an appropriate battery pack that'd be good too :) | 16:27 |
| jkridner|work | me too. :) | 16:40 |
| Utopiah | (RepRap - Manufacturing for the Masses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYdhhTjp1C8 FOSDEM2010) | 16:55 |
| QuantumG | nice | 16:56 |
| Utopiah | (The Wiki for Open Technologies: How to share your projects and knowledge http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW2MjpRxICQ FOSDEM2010) | 16:58 |
| Utopiah | ( with its http://thewiki4opentech.org/ ) | 16:59 |
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| Utopiah | not sure what's it's for really... | 17:06 |
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| kanzure | Systemic signals regulate ageing and rejuvenation of blood stem cell niches http://designfiles.org/papers/longevity/Systemic%20signals%20regulate%20ageing%20and%20rejuvenation%20of%20blood%20stem%20cell%20niches.pdf | 17:24 |
| kanzure | "According to the Bank for International Settlements, the total outstanding notional amount is $684 trillion (as of June 2008)." | 17:28 |
| kanzure | "The size of the world stock market was estimated at about $36.6 trillion US at the beginning of October 2008.[1] The total world derivatives market has been estimated at about $791 trillion face or nominal value, [2] 11 times the size of the entire world economy" | 17:29 |
| kanzure | um | 17:29 |
| kanzure | "That is, the metabrain is a label for a deeper and richer set of internal senses, that allow you to see your own wiring and improve on it." | 17:34 |
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| kanzure | http://www.thesmartpolitenerd.com/images/napkin-schematic-800x600.png | 19:34 |
| kanzure | i enjoy how the dimensions of that image are definitely _not_ 800x600 | 19:35 |
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| QuantumG | so Obamacare has cleared the House? | 19:57 |
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| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/images/szalinski_labs_where_the_future_is_now.png | 20:45 |
| kanzure | not a bad icon | 20:45 |
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