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| fenn | gazopa seems to suck much less than tineye if you're not looking for an exact match | 00:52 |
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| fenn | kanzure: what's the difference between tags.html and clouds/#hplusroadmap.html? | 01:11 |
| fenn | besides just limiting th dataset | 01:12 |
| fenn | i think you should do a big graph (network) instead of multiple little files | 01:12 |
| fenn | wtf why does bre pettis have so much cool "recommended tags and things to talk about" but i get crap :( | 01:19 |
| fenn | jkridner is lira.lg? | 01:21 |
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| fenn | QuantumG: someone was experimenting with running beagleboard on 3.6V lithium batteries, but they had problems with crashing, but then they tried 5V regulated from two batteries in series and had the same problem, so probably they did something wrong | 01:34 |
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| fenn | http://www.gaffta.org/2010/03/20/information-is-beautiful/ | 02:52 |
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| kanzure | fenn: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/fenn_out | 03:13 |
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| jkridner|work | fenn? | 05:22 |
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| kanzure | stalk: Bill Erickson <bill.erickson@gmail.com> | 08:05 |
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| kanzure | can someone explain to me why there's no up/down vote on twitter? or no competitor that already does that | 10:55 |
| Utopiah | that's kinda what RT does, it's an UP vote somehow | 10:56 |
| kanzure | what? i thought fungi already did horizontal gene transfer http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100317144634.htm | 11:04 |
| kanzure | "This capability was believed to be possible, but rare, in fungi." | 11:04 |
| kanzure | "In the new study, based on a genome-wide analysis of three Fusarium species, it was shown experimentally that complete chromosomes were being transferred between different fungal strains, along with the ability to cause infection." | 11:04 |
| kanzure | cool, horizontal chromosome transfer 8) | 11:05 |
| kanzure | wtf it's an army of authors http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v464/n7287/full/nature08850.html | 11:05 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/papers/Comparative%20genomics%20reveals%20mobile%20pathogenicity%20chromosomes%20in%20Fusarium.pdf | 11:07 |
| kanzure | i wonder if the individual chromosomes are pathogenic themselves | 11:08 |
| kanzure | i.e. encoding virulence proteins that specifically transfer the chromosome to the next cell | 11:08 |
| kanzure | viral chromosomes? | 11:08 |
| Utopiah | Dawkin and his selfish gene would entertain that idea | 11:13 |
| kanzure | rfid and hackerspace badges | 11:35 |
| kanzure | http://www.gumbolabs.org/2009/10/17/parallax-rfid-reader-arduino/ | 11:35 |
| kanzure | http://www.gumbolabs.org/2010/02/05/rfid-ethernet-shield-client-rails/ | 11:35 |
| kanzure | building an electrocardiograph http://www.eng.utah.edu/~jnguyen/ecg/instructions.html | 11:44 |
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| kanzure | weird discussion http://studentdevelopers.ning.com/forum/topics/is-open-source-hardware-pulls | 12:13 |
| kanzure | " | 12:13 |
| kanzure | "Hi friends, nowadays a concept "OPEN SOURCE HARDWARE" popularised among the computer people. How that concept change the world and What are the future of the Open Source Hardware?. Let we discuiss about it.. | 12:13 |
| kanzure | " | 12:13 |
| kanzure | a response from someone else says " | 12:13 |
| kanzure | a response from someone else says " yes opensource hardware is pulls the world | 12:13 |
| kanzure | huh how did that happen. i definitely didn't write that twice | 12:13 |
| kanzure | someone named "joseph" wants to make an open source driving helmet http://cdiver.ning.com/forum/topics/an-idea-an-open-source-diving | 12:15 |
| kanzure | (the page is useless and not worth reading) | 12:16 |
| kanzure | s/driving/diving/ | 12:16 |
| kanzure | http://hydraraptor.blogspot.com/2010/03/making-mendel.html | 12:18 |
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| fenn | jkridner|work: ug.. sorry, my mom is in town and she's dragging me to the beach | 12:22 |
| fenn | woe is me :P | 12:22 |
| kanzure | how do you pronounce moseley? | 12:23 |
| kanzure | meh nevermind | 12:25 |
| kanzure | i wonder if there's a debian package maintainer appreciation day or something | 13:28 |
| bkero-legacy | kanzure: Nah, you just buy them beer when you meet them at conferences. | 13:29 |
| kanzure | this isn't for their benefit | 13:31 |
| kanzure | jkridner|work: are you around? | 14:03 |
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| kanzure | fenn is asking for your phone number | 14:11 |
| ybit | me? | 14:12 |
| kanzure | ybit: no you just stepped in at the wrong time | 14:12 |
| ybit | i see, bkero | 14:12 |
| kanzure | no | 14:12 |
| ybit | i give up then | 14:13 |
| ybit | jkridner|work: | 14:13 |
| ybit | got it | 14:13 |
| * ybit pats himself on the back | 14:13 | |
| kanzure | ftr, i have both you and bkero's number anyway | 14:13 |
| ybit | i figured | 14:13 |
| kanzure | eh: http://shotofjaq.org/2010/02/hardware-on-rails | 14:15 |
| kanzure | i wonder why http://makershed.com/ hasn't become more popular | 14:15 |
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| kanzure | http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/LackRack | 14:30 |
| kanzure | finally got a response from ayah bdeir re: CC/"opening hardware" | 14:35 |
| jkridner|work | ybit? | 14:38 |
| jkridner|work | hi kanzure. | 14:38 |
| kanzure | jkridner|work: fenn was asking for your number a few minutes ago :/ | 14:38 |
| jkridner|work | ah. | 14:38 |
| jkridner|work | k, I posted it to him. | 14:39 |
| kanzure | he's on the beach right now, can you PM it to me? | 14:39 |
| kanzure | thanks | 14:39 |
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| kanzure | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Patent_Tools_Public_Discussion | 15:03 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Research_Non-Assertion_Pledge | 15:03 |
| kanzure | "The GreenXchange (GX) is a clearinghouse for know-how, patent pledges, and patent licenses related to sustainability. Companies participating in the GX will be able to make both patented and unpatented innovations ("know-how") available for research uses and commercialization on standard and transparent terms and conditions. " | 15:04 |
| kanzure | "The CAMBIA project in Australia pioneered an "open" patent project called BIOS for use on agricultural and biotechnology inventions, IBM dedicated the Non-Assertion Against Open Source Software for open source software, and the World Business Council for Sustainable Development has developed the Eco-Patent Commons." | 15:05 |
| kanzure | "Linux Patent Commons use patent pledges (non-assertions) exclusively, for both commercial and non-commercial uses" | 15:05 |
| kanzure | "By contrast, the Research Non-Assertion Pledge of GX is targeted specifically for non-profit research, while the patent licenses offer a path to commercial applications." | 15:05 |
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| kanzure | section 3.4 worries me http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Research_Non-Assertion_Pledge | 15:09 |
| kanzure | http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-patents | 15:11 |
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| kristianpaul | patent license? | 15:36 |
| Utopiah | (tecosystems >> Why I Am Against Software Patents http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2010/03/19/software-patents/ March 19, 2010) | 15:36 |
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| Utopiah | http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html | 15:57 |
| kanzure | i prefer baez's other content | 16:00 |
| Utopiah | there was another theroretical physic prof. with a similar page... with a yellow background, but I can't remember it | 16:01 |
| kanzure | maybe 't hooft | 16:02 |
| Utopiah | I dont think s | 16:04 |
| kanzure | "30 points for suggesting that a famous figure secretly disbelieved in a theory which he or she publicly supported. (E.g., that Feynman was a closet opponent of special relativity, as deduced by reading between the lines in his freshman physics textbooks.) " | 16:04 |
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| QuantumG | "disbelieved in" | 16:13 |
| kanzure | http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit | 16:27 |
| Utopiah | MindTouch Top 20 List of Open-Source Leaders http://www.flickr.com/photos/39372736@N04/4437525594/ | 16:27 |
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| bkero-legacy | Why is my boss not on that list? :( | 16:47 |
| kanzure | who is your boss | 16:52 |
| kanzure | mainland china service availability http://www.google.com/prc/report.html#hl=en | 16:52 |
| Utopiah | lol, when Ads turns "Blocked" the rest will turn "No way." | 16:53 |
| bkero-legacy | kanzure: Lance Albertson :P | 16:55 |
| bkero-legacy | We host about half the projects on that list | 16:55 |
| * bkero-legacy is sitting about 10 feet from kernel.org and drupal.org. | 16:56 | |
| * bkero-legacy is having beer with the kernel.org admin next week | 16:56 | |
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| * any03917913 senses deja vu again | 18:26 | |
| kanzure | JayDugger: thanks for the email | 18:27 |
| kanzure | "Please vote for Buzz Aldrin who just danced on Dancing with Stars. Text 3407 or go to abc.com to vote. Honestly, he wasn't very good as a dancer but we had 10 minutes if pro space on national tv. Text 3407. Go Buzz!! Pass it on!! " | 18:36 |
| kanzure | O_o | 18:36 |
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| kanzure | blah | 20:13 |
| kanzure | what to do | 20:13 |
| kanzure | i've had a headache for the past ~30h | 20:13 |
| kanzure | just generally "being sick" | 20:13 |
| kanzure | it's kinda hard to concentrate or do anything | 20:13 |
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| fenn | gosh the LACK-rack IKEA server cabinet sure is cheap ($8) | 20:51 |
| fenn | i should get some for the dojo (piles of server stuff laying around everywhere, big mess) | 20:52 |
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| fenn | "Following ICT tradition, the Enterprise Edition is more than three times as expensive, while providing less stability than two of the regular products combined. " | 20:56 |
| fenn | i love the instruction manual: http://eth-0.nl/lackrack.pdf | 21:00 |
| kanzure | fyi i found it via googling for "hardware on rails" in quotes | 21:02 |
| fenn | this thing's hanging in langton labs: http://www.instructables.com/id/Big-lamps-from-Ikea-lampan-lamps./ | 21:03 |
| kanzure | does langton labs charge membership fees? | 21:09 |
| fenn | rent | 21:12 |
| fenn | and bills and stuff | 21:12 |
| fenn | it's not a hackerspace | 21:12 |
| kanzure | joseph jackson has started up on his scheme again to do a hackerspace | 21:13 |
| kanzure | but he won't call it a hackerspace for some reason | 21:13 |
| kanzure | even though that's what it is.. | 21:13 |
| kanzure | i am really starting to dislike membership fees | 21:13 |
| kanzure | rent is ok if you get to i.e. actually live there | 21:13 |
| fenn | because all the hackerspaces are wussy about doing biology | 21:13 |
| kanzure | why aren't they wussy about PGP | 21:13 |
| kanzure | ITER, rawr! | 21:14 |
| fenn | it's not illegal anymore | 21:14 |
| kanzure | minor detail | 21:14 |
| fenn | of course neither is etching circuits with peroxide :] | 21:14 |
| kanzure | are you allowed to do hackerspace stuff at langton labs? | 21:15 |
| fenn | omg why does everyone have to email me at the same time | 21:15 |
| kanzure | that happens to me too | 21:15 |
| kanzure | and i have the fucking graphs to prove it | 21:15 |
| fenn | peretz is assembling this wooden moving sculpture that is packed full of thermite | 21:15 |
| fenn | so, uh, yeah i guess you're "allowed" | 21:15 |
| kanzure | well | 21:16 |
| kanzure | eh | 21:16 |
| kanzure | is it so terrible that i dislike membership fees? | 21:17 |
| kanzure | it feels like i'm up against a moral wallor something | 21:17 |
| kanzure | *wall or something | 21:17 |
| kanzure | "what! no membership fee? you must be killed!" | 21:17 |
| fenn | without owning the space i dont really see how you can keep it going without fees of some sort | 21:19 |
| fenn | and landlords almost never are cool enough to just let people do whatever in a space | 21:20 |
| kanzure | imho owning isn't a big issue | 21:20 |
| kanzure | well, owning in the middle of LA is an issue >:o | 21:20 |
| kanzure | you people and your crazy schemes | 21:20 |
| fenn | huh? owning anything in a city is difficult | 21:20 |
| fenn | crazy people and their laws | 21:21 |
| kanzure | extra constraints | 21:21 |
| fenn | this is where katsmeow jumps in and starts ranting about humans | 21:21 |
| kanzure | $100k/year should be more than enough to do this right | 21:22 |
| fenn | yeah but where do you get that from? | 21:22 |
| kanzure | *ahem* | 21:22 |
| kanzure | god damn it | 21:22 |
| any03917913 | <rant><rant><rant> | 21:23 |
| kanzure | </rant> | 21:24 |
| kanzure | in b4 ur done | 21:24 |
| kanzure | ALSO fenn i still haven't registered on paypal for some reason | 21:24 |
| kanzure | today i get to blame it on my health | 21:24 |
| genehacker | fenn I believe you mean evil HOAs | 21:26 |
| fenn | er, not really | 21:27 |
| fenn | home owner's association makes me think of some suburb with beige houses that all look alike | 21:28 |
| fenn | regulating the height of grass so all the lawns look the same | 21:28 |
| fenn | that's not the sort of place for a hackerspace anyway | 21:28 |
| kanzure | i'm in ur lawn hacking ur grazz? | 21:29 |
| genehacker | oh oh, genetically modified grass pollen to turn grass purple | 21:31 |
| fenn | genetically modified dandelions that produce THC, glow green, and are resistant to all pesticides | 21:32 |
| QuantumG | heat resistant too | 21:34 |
| genehacker | round-up ready dandelions, oh man, you found away to break a patent there too | 21:34 |
| genehacker | *break patent law | 21:34 |
| genehacker | now I wonder if one could extract that gene from food products | 21:36 |
| fenn | STOP! shower time. | 21:36 |
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| fenn | http://fennetic.net/irc/IMG_0177.JPG http://fennetic.net/irc/IMG_0208.JPG http://fennetic.net/irc/IMG_0213.JPG | 21:56 |
| fenn | digital zoom sucks | 22:00 |
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| kanzure | apparently joseph jackson is my target demographic for 1kfriend.ly | 22:33 |
| kanzure | "i just cut and paste emails together" | 22:33 |
| kanzure | and we've always suspected paul fernhout already has this system for himself | 22:33 |
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| fenn | i dont get why my camera takes noisier images with a higher ISO setting | 23:02 |
| fenn | and the shutter speed is longer for lower ISO settings | 23:03 |
| fenn | ok i guess that's how it's supposed to be | 23:05 |
| fenn | "deluxe Make: electronics toolkit" is actually pretty good: http://www.makershed.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MKEE2 | 23:53 |
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