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| Utopiah | http://lumberjaph.net/blog/index.php/2010/03/25/github-explorer/ | 02:36 |
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| fenn | woah. http://www.pilotfriend.com/aeromed/medical/fovea.htm | 03:16 |
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| fenn | the animated test is cool | 03:17 |
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| Utopiah | kanzure: can I give a borderline philosophical opinion? | 07:17 |
| Utopiah | on SKDB | 07:17 |
| Utopiah | (Im asking because some people here tend to vomit when philosophical terms are used ;) | 07:17 |
| Utopiah | I think that by providing processes to build objects, SKDB (or any tool that aims to build objects thanks to computers) is realising computational praxis, the ability to act but mediated by computer tools | 07:19 |
| Utopiah | (there, done.) | 07:19 |
| JayDugger | Hmm? | 07:20 |
| Utopiah | pathological apraxia ( https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Apraxia ) and the inability to generate a process in order to reach a goal made me think of that | 07:20 |
| katsmeow-afk | •Praxis is the process by which a theory, lesson, or skill is enacted or practiced | 07:21 |
| Utopiah | thanks katsmeow-afk | 07:21 |
| katsmeow-afk | <curtsey> | 07:21 |
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| kanzure | so.. what is it? http://www.zoybar.net/main | 08:25 |
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| kanzure | http://www.instructables.com/id/When-a-Phillips-is-not-a-Phillips-Plus-So-Much-Mor/ | 08:34 |
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| kanzure | http://www.thingiverse.com/tags new feature implemented, will probably help with scraping | 09:05 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/2009-07-01_to_2010-03-25.png | 09:19 |
| kanzure | heh http://www.phpwtf.org/ | 09:48 |
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| kanzure | some of 8020's equipment: http://www.8020customfab.com/Equipment.asp | 10:56 |
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| kanzure | the 80/20 webmaster (microsoft developer, sadly) is into D&D | 11:49 |
| kanzure | he even hosts a D&D fansite on the 8020 servers | 11:49 |
| kanzure | "In Kanzure's logic, there is no (moral) difference between a staged anthrax attack and a natural anthrax outbreak. Also following the anything goes argument ..." | 13:24 |
| kanzure | huh someone quoted me correctly? wtf | 13:24 |
| kanzure | wait, moral? | 13:24 |
| kanzure | i might have spoken too soon | 13:24 |
| kanzure | http://www.synbiosafe.eu/uploads/pdf/Synbiosafe_e-conference_all_contributions.pdf | 13:25 |
| kanzure | bottom of page 34 and top of page 35 | 13:25 |
| kanzure | "CENSORED is a way of modifying genomes" | 13:26 |
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| kanzure | "the metric system (a simplistic farce conceived by eccentrics at the behest of madmen, and imposed by dictators for the convenience of idiots). " | 13:36 |
| katsmeow-afk | so imperial units and Latin it is! | 13:42 |
| kanzure | you know, i've never heard of the metric system as part of a conspiracy | 13:49 |
| kanzure | this is a first | 13:49 |
| kanzure | it seems like the only reason to *not* draw microfluidic circuits by hand is in the case of optimization/testing/simulation | 14:03 |
| kanzure | where you want to be able to control the parameters for each chamber, curves, corners, lengths, etc. | 14:03 |
| kanzure | another reason is if you're mapping human-language biology lab protocols to mf components | 14:04 |
| kanzure | i suppose you could argue that you should use a parts library to construct a design because you can later do optimization/simulation | 14:04 |
| kanzure | whereas with hand-drawing you'd have to redo the entire design | 14:04 |
| kanzure | has anyone seen a VLSI-scale mf chip before? | 14:04 |
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| kanzure | http://diylilcnc.org/ | 14:32 |
| kanzure | cool it's explicitly licensed as CC :) | 14:33 |
| kanzure | it's weird how no project that uses CC ever puts a LICENSE file into their project | 14:54 |
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| fenn | kanzure: same reason you dont write emails by hand.. it's faster, easier to edit, you can dopy and paste, and have revision control | 15:05 |
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| kanzure | fenn: what are you replying to | 15:23 |
| kanzure | oh | 15:24 |
| kanzure | using graphical tools to edit MF designs is pretty fast | 15:24 |
| fenn | graphical tools == "by hand"? | 15:25 |
| kanzure | also apparently 8020 is a family-owned company (doug wood, don wood, john wood, david wood, kristina wood, .. | 15:25 |
| kanzure | yes | 15:25 |
| kanzure | *click* move mouse *end click* | 15:25 |
| fenn | what an odd definition | 15:25 |
| kanzure | it involves a mouse | 15:25 |
| kanzure | it's by hand. | 15:25 |
| fenn | keyboards require the use of hands too | 15:26 |
| kanzure | you can script things that use a keyboard | 15:26 |
| kanzure | bbl, dinner with robot group people (they chose next door tonight) | 15:26 |
| fenn | unless you have some kind of BCI you aren't sharing | 15:27 |
| fenn | why is the internet stil broken? | 15:27 |
| QuantumG | .. | 15:32 |
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| JayDugger | Zoybar--DIY guitar kits sold through an overly-flashy website? | 16:51 |
| kanzure | hm the diylilcnc guys compare their work to a mill for metal cutting | 17:21 |
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| kanzure | http://scienceblogs.com/commonknowledge/2010/03/open_hardware.php | 17:28 |
| kanzure | http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ac1zmsAw8z8pZGZjcDdrOG1fMjBxdjQ1dGpuOA&hl=en | 18:22 |
| JayDugger | And how much will Santa Claus bill me for the parts? | 18:23 |
| fenn | all svg+javascript video game: http://bighead.poli.usp.br/~juca/code/svg/minigame/minigame.svg | 18:28 |
| fenn | felipe from libreDWG just showed me that | 18:29 |
| fenn | i suggested making a real version with arduino and led's behind a mask (instead of LCD) | 18:33 |
| fenn | turns out dean chen (practically lives at dojo) has built a stewart platform for CNC machining | 18:34 |
| kanzure | a mask? | 18:34 |
| JayDugger | Oh? | 18:35 |
| fenn | like an okudagram: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/okudagram | 18:35 |
| kanzure | how did dean like his stewart platform | 18:36 |
| JayDugger | fenn, have you a link for that CNC stewart platform? | 18:37 |
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| fenn | "I built this pair of glasses with a speaker for a lense, to train myself to echolocate. | 19:01 |
| fenn | By listening to the reflections of sound off nearby objects, I can perceive things using my sense of hearing. The glasses are my training program. | 19:01 |
| fenn | JayDugger: no | 19:01 |
| fenn | JayDugger: i think it's in atlanta, GA | 19:01 |
| fenn | er, dean mao, not dean chen | 19:07 |
| kanzure | hur dur i need to work on the presentation for april 10th | 19:07 |
| kanzure | i am afraid that the audience will know more about apt-get internals than i do | 19:07 |
| kanzure | s/afraid/certain/ | 19:07 |
| fenn | haha | 19:08 |
| fenn | if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit | 19:09 |
| kanzure | fenn: s/fransisco/francisco/ on fennetic.net/index.html | 19:15 |
| fenn | "The skates are so dangerous we are too worried about putting them on to test them" | 19:20 |
| fenn | kanzure: thanks, i dont know how i learned that wrong | 19:21 |
| fenn | 19:22 | |
| fenn | pfff they only go 20 MPH | 19:23 |
| fenn | british wussies | 19:23 |
| fenn | homebrew OLED: http://intertu.be/blog/?page_id=62 | 19:33 |
| fenn | felipe is trying to make his own LCD screen | 19:33 |
| kanzure | who is jerry ellsworth? | 19:35 |
| kanzure | jeri ellsworth | 19:35 |
| kanzure | http://lifehacker.com/5480199/macgyver-of-the-day-electronics-hacker-jeri-ellsworth | 19:35 |
| fenn | why do you ask? | 19:35 |
| kanzure | "It's a little known fact, but MAKE even has the creator of MacGyver writing at MAKE: Lee D. Zlotoff! L" | 19:35 |
| fenn | are you spying on me? | 19:35 |
| kanzure | david treadwell was mentioning jeri | 19:35 |
| * fenn was just telling felipe to look up jeri ellsworth b/c she's also a pinball fanatic | 19:36 | |
| fenn | she did the DIY transistor doping from a silicon wafer | 19:36 |
| kanzure | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeriellsworth/sets/72157607161498665/ | 19:36 |
| kanzure | i see | 19:36 |
| fenn | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeriellsworth/2835524263/ | 19:36 |
| kanzure | http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=jeriellsworth#g/u | 19:37 |
| kanzure | have you jumped her yet | 19:37 |
| fenn | yeah, that | 19:37 |
| fenn | no, i wouldnt want to expose my ignorance | 19:37 |
| fenn | apparently she talked at hacker dojo in january? | 19:37 |
| genehacker | pinball fanatic? | 19:39 |
| genehacker | are you one fenn? | 19:39 |
| kanzure | oh this is "fatman and the circuit girl" | 19:39 |
| kanzure | i should have known | 19:39 |
| genehacker | and are pinballs hard to obtain? | 19:39 |
| genehacker | what? | 19:39 |
| kanzure | wtf the only person i know who knows jeri is keith henson? | 19:40 |
| genehacker | you didn't know who Jeri Ellsworth was? Jeri Ellsworth, build her own microchips Jeri? | 19:40 |
| kanzure | newtek/xilient sounds a lot like microunity | 19:41 |
| kanzure | i knew who "circuit girl" was | 19:41 |
| kanzure | but not her name | 19:41 |
| kanzure | i don't think she does microchips | 19:41 |
| fenn | genehacker: no, felipe is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/felipesanches/ | 19:41 |
| JayDugger | Keith Henson knows everyone. | 19:41 |
| kanzure | keith henson knows my mom | 19:42 |
| fenn | she designed a C64 replacement chip or something.. i think it counts | 19:42 |
| kanzure | does she do photolithography | 19:42 |
| kanzure | honestly VLSI is not hard | 19:42 |
| kanzure | *VLSI design | 19:42 |
| fenn | gah rtfwpa | 19:42 |
| kanzure | ? | 19:43 |
| fenn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeri_Ellsworth | 19:43 |
| genehacker | I don't think so | 19:43 |
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| JayDugger | rtfwpa=? | 19:45 |
| kanzure | read the fucking wikipedia article | 19:45 |
| JayDugger | Duh. | 19:45 |
| JayDugger | Thank you. | 19:45 |
| kanzure | and i did, and it didn't say whether or not she does photolithography stuff for VLSI | 19:45 |
| quantumkat | Hello :D | 19:45 |
| kanzure | hi quantumkat | 19:46 |
| quantumkat | Can you recommend any good books for designing and building hardware? | 19:46 |
| JayDugger | What sort of hardware? | 19:47 |
| katsmeow-afk | yea, i emailed Jeri once to get info on the C1, she thought i was making pass at her, be careful | 19:48 |
| quantumkat | JayDugger, Circuitry. | 19:48 |
| kanzure | pneumatic, hydraulic, electric, or other? | 19:48 |
| quantumkat | Electric. | 19:49 |
| genehacker | principles and applications of electrical engineering | 19:53 |
| quantumkat | Thank you, genehacker. | 19:55 |
| kanzure | "Just checked and it looks like Gateway sells a $49 netbook" | 19:55 |
| kanzure | Gateway LT2016u | 19:58 |
| genehacker | does it have enough power for robot vision? | 20:03 |
| fenn | christ how am i supposed to read this? http://fennetic.net/irc/Captcha.jpeg | 20:06 |
| JayDugger | if you can't tell, you must be a chatbot. | 20:07 |
| kanzure | http://decaptcher.com/ solves all of my captchas for me now | 20:08 |
| kanzure | forrest mims is also cited as a good intro-to-electronics author | 20:08 |
| fenn | JayDugger: what are your feeling about i must be a chatbot? | 20:09 |
| JayDugger | Your chatbot nature has been trumped by my cat. He chases the characters as I type them. | 20:09 |
| JayDugger | He suggests I cut-and-paste into emacs's psychotherapist. | 20:10 |
| fenn | your cat is pretty smart | 20:11 |
| JayDugger | Not really. He hasn't realized warm clothes in the dryer are better than a cold tabletop. | 20:12 |
| JayDugger | Unlike my other cat, who watches the laundry basket. | 20:12 |
| JayDugger | Good night, everyone. | 20:15 |
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| kanzure | "it's zen not to be zen" | 20:48 |
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| genehacker | kanzure you there? | 23:24 |
| genehacker | Bre has declared war on RepRap | 23:24 |
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| fenn | just watched an interesting conversation about using g1 android phone guts in a satellite | 23:38 |
| fenn | "cellbots" | 23:39 |
| fenn | and missed my train.. bastards shut the door in my face | 23:39 |
| genehacker | is it one of those trains with electrified rails? | 23:43 |
| genehacker | if yes, I wonder what happens when you short them? | 23:52 |
| genehacker | answer: the train can't get away! | 23:52 |
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