2010-03-30.log

--- Day changed Tue Mar 30 2010
Utopiahlive http://webcast.cern.ch/lhcfirstphysics/00:02
genehackeroh neat00:05
genehackerI was about to post that00:05
QuantumGCERN Beams lost again...operators will need to study the situation now. less than a minute ago via web 00:05
Utopiahgenehacker: I know, Im in your brain00:06
genehackeris that bad?00:07
QuantumGhttp://twitter.com/CERN00:07
fennhttp://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/04T029/47/Ball-Bearing-Mousetraps00:28
katsmeow-afkBall-Bearing-Mousetraps?00:30
fennsays you can modify it to be non-ball-bearing00:30
katsmeow-afkmine is non-ball-bearing :-)00:32
genehackerthis would be cool, if they actually did anything:01:19
genehackerhttp://www.3d-mintegration.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=101:19
fennyes that is a useless page01:21
Utopiahhttp://lhc-webcast.web.cern.ch/lhc-webcast/cerninfos.swf02:23
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kanzurehttp://www.ossmedicine.org/?m=20100304:14
kanzureit's not very interesting. run by a guy named "dan fish" who also works at Langeley Medical Practifce04:19
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kanzure_"open source health research plan" http://www.betterhumans.com/blogs/alexandra_carmichael/archive/2008/09/15/Open-Source-Health-Research-Plan-.aspx11:25
kanzure_i wasn't expecting nrn to be this detailed: http://www.anc.ed.ac.uk/school/neuron/tutorial/tutB.html11:40
kanzure_does anyone know if dyndnsdd runs on bootup?12:26
kanzure_stalk: Eri Gentry <sap.ved.eri@gmail.com>12:31
kanzure_apparently eri works at livly.org ?12:31
kanzure_hm the requirements to become an 80/20 distributor aren't that intense12:51
kanzure_"can you breath?"12:51
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kanzureszostak won a nobel prize?16:11
kanzureplos usage stats: http://www.plos.org/downloads/plos-alm.zip16:12
kanzure"mapping the structural core of human cerebral cortex" looks interesting16:13
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kanzurehi fenn16:32
* fenn moans pitifully16:36
fennthis sleeping 14 hours a day stuff is messing with my melatonin experiment16:36
kanzurei like how atilla got it kinda backwards :P http://pimm.wordpress.com/2007/01/24/what-is-biodiy/16:46
kanzureattila, i mean.16:49
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kanzurejacob's emails worry me16:55
QuantumGhmm16:56
QuantumGseems lovelock has come out with some more crazy that is nullifying his "it's time to rethink nuclear" goodness16:56
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kanzureopen source lion tracking collars http://gizmodo.com/5504859/why-not-open-source-lion+tracking-collars-in-the-works?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gizmodo%2Ffull+(Gizmodo)18:08
fennwas this re: mountain lions the other day?18:10
kanzureno it's just something popping up on my radar18:11
fennthis would be fun to play with at a sunday school: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8593748.stm18:18
kanzureisn't it just TMS18:18
kanzurei'm confused, why is everyone so excited about this news article?18:18
kanzureand why are you reading twister more frequently18:19
fennbecause i was reading responses to the teac2 thread18:19
fenni slept through it though18:20
fennit's like the "gene for being gay", it's an oversimplification that people find alluring18:21
fennconfirmation that we really are just simple machines18:21
fennprobably a backlash fromsemi-autistic people who can never understand human motives18:22
kanzurebut can't drugs basically do the same thing?18:33
kanzurein some cases18:33
fennnot that i know of18:44
kanzuretanin says "We found a cable with a phone wire head on one end and an Ethernet wire head on the other end connecting another computer to the switch, so nothing is unexpected."19:04
kanzureo_O19:04
QuantumGtoday, The Space Show Classroom regarding New Space, what it is, its capabilities, and potential.  Guest panelist is Paul Breed of Unreasonable Rockets.19:07
QuantumGin about an hour http://thespaceshow.com/live.htm19:08
kanzuresigh at sebastien :/19:20
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kanzurehey jacob :)19:26
JayDuggerSee also JPL's Basics of Space Flight. http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/basics/19:26
QuantumGo..k19:27
kingjacobhey 19:29
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QuantumGI'm more looking forward to Monday's show.. Eric Lerner is on.19:30
JayDuggerOh? good.19:30
JayDuggerI wonder if he'll discuss some of the DPF propulsion papers that Next Big Future wrote up last week.19:31
QuantumGbe nice to get a status update on Focus Fusion that isn't filtered through that terrible blog.19:31
QuantumG(focusfusion.org)19:31
JayDuggerYeah. NBF isn't much better, but it has frequent updates.19:32
QuantumGI'll be asking him about the potential of ground launch of a focus fusion powered launch vehicle.. if he doesn't bring it up himself.19:32
JayDuggerThat'd be great, but I expect you'll get the standard "politics won't permit" answer that grounds every nuclear rocket.19:33
QuantumGits aneutronic fusion.. it'd be cleaner than a chemical rocket.19:34
JayDuggerI understand.19:38
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JayDuggerI'd go to the launch and watch. You're preaching to the choir, as the saying goes.19:38
QuantumGbut yeah, it'll be terribly amusing if he gets to q=1 this year19:39
QuantumGno-one will believe him of course.19:40
QuantumGso add 2 years for someone to reproduce it, while they continue their work.19:40
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kanzurewhy does sebastien think it's all about politics? "he who thinks it is about politics makes it politics"19:47
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kanzure"I think you're on to something. The phenomenon of the BOFH is simply the result of being surrounded by hard drives and other magnetic materials. The actions do not cause any physical harm, though most would consider it immoral.20:24
kanzure...or maybe users are just idiots."20:24
fennso if i strap a hard drive just above my ear i can do whatever i want without feeling bad about it?20:26
JayDuggerNo, if you strap a hard drive above your ear, you can do whatever you want and feel bad only because your neck hurts.20:31
JayDuggerSort of like self-mortification, but with a slightly different and quantifiable effect.20:32
kanzureum what the fuck20:35
kanzurehow did a photo of my laser cutter make its way to the internet20:35
kanzurehttp://twitpic.com/1c3an820:35
kanzurei don't like how austin hackerspace takes credit for les' work20:41
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kanzurehey Dustbin 20:44
Dustbinhey20:44
kanzurei was surprised to find a photo of my laser cutter up on the internet a few minutes ago20:44
kanzurebut whatever i guess =)20:44
kanzurehttp://twitpic.com/1c3an820:44
kanzurei don't have the space's ip address memorized yet, are you there at the moment?20:45
kanzure71.145.131.137?20:45
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kanzurehi thesnark 20:48
thesnarkhey kanzure20:48
thesnarkany experience with sed by any chance?20:49
kanzureonly a little :)20:49
jrayhawki might be able to help20:50
kanzuredon't listen to his lies! he'll write you an awk poem instead20:50
kanzure:P20:50
jrayhawki will write a turing machine in PCRE for the purpose of parsing regexes20:50
kanzurehow would anyone in their right mind think that a good idea20:51
jrayhawkan artist does not understand the value of his works, he only makes them20:52
thesnarkI just need to know why sed is saying it has no input when I do: grep -l "blah blah" * | sed -i 's/word/replacement/g'20:52
jrayhawkpossibly because he is an asshole20:52
jrayhawkyou can't edit a stream in place20:52
kanzureStream EDit?20:52
jrayhawkyou probably want a for loop and the 'sponge' command from moreutils20:53
* thesnark sighs20:53
jrayhawkunless you're just completely confused about what -i means20:53
thesnarkwell20:53
thesnarkI'm piping it a list of files to do the find/replace on20:53
kanzurexargs20:54
thesnarkgrep -l gives you a list20:54
kanzureamirite?20:54
thesnarkno20:54
jrayhawkAh, okay. sed -i 's/word/replacement/g' $(grep -l "blah blah" *) might work20:54
thesnarkbecause I don't want to do this with every file20:54
thesnarkit has nothing to do with the file name20:55
jrayhawkyou might also want to look at the tool "mrtg"20:55
thesnark:D Awesome20:55
QuantumGfor f in * ; do whatever with $f; done20:55
jrayhawkif your filenames have odd characters, you probably want to use xargs because escaping characters in bash is a giant broken pain in the ass20:56
QuantumGfor f in * ; do ./whatever_with $f; done   slightly clearer.. "do" is a keyword20:56
kanzurejrayhawk: i have trouble with filenames with spaces in them even when i try to escape and quote the filenames. blah20:56
QuantumGscripting in general sucks.. you can see why perl became so popular20:57
thesnarkffffuuuu20:57
thesnarkI hate sed it would probably be faster to just do the stuff manually than learn it geez20:57
* thesnark proceeds to do that20:57
jrayhawkyou might be happier learning either zsh or a real scripting language instead of bash/awk/sed20:58
thesnarkI only need this this one time20:59
kanzurethat's what you think now20:59
thesnarkand then I can go back to my world of not having any idea20:59
kanzureand in a month you'll be using sed again and wondering why the fuck you didn't learn it20:59
kanzure:/20:59
jrayhawkkanzure: most times when dealing with wacky filenames, you want to feed null-delimited filenames into xargs. grep has -Z, and file has -print0.20:59
jrayhawkand xargs has -021:00
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