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| fenn | i was so going to make this, but now that i see it exists i feel less obligated to do so: http://robotsanddinosaurs.org/?p=168 | 00:03 |
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| fenn | "Do not connect the probe to voltages that exceed 5 volts under any conditions." is pretty weaksauce | 00:05 |
| fenn | huh how did i miss this: http://dangerousprototypes.com/bus-pirate-manual/ | 00:13 |
| fenn | 200MHz logic analyzer | 00:13 |
| fenn | that's way better than miniLA | 00:14 |
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| guibou | hello here... I'm looking for support on python-ooc and the only irc link I found is here, anyone with python-ooc knowledge ? | 07:03 |
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| kanzure | guibou: yep | 07:47 |
| guibou | kanzure: hello ;) I'm trying to convert step iges to stl file | 07:48 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/skdb/import_tools/iges2stl.py | 07:49 |
| guibou | kanzure: I thing I succed (because I have an stl file now), but I'm trying to understand how to have a binary one and what are the params Coeficient and defflection | 07:49 |
| guibou | Hoo, I look at your script | 07:49 |
| guibou | kanzure: ok, your script is exactly what I have done currently, thank you, but how to parametrize how the tesselation is done ? | 07:52 |
| kanzure | i have never tried that. | 07:52 |
| guibou | ok | 07:54 |
| guibou | The api is well documented, there is only two functions and I'm unable to know how to use it ;) | 08:05 |
| kanzure | the api is *not* well documented | 08:06 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/lab/opencascade/ might be helpful? | 08:06 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/lab/opencascade/occ6.3.0/doc/ | 08:06 |
| guibou | http://designfiles.org/lab/opencascade/occ6.3.0/doc/ReferenceDocumentation/DataExchange/html/classStlAPI__Writer.html << "Set the Deflection", miam ;) | 08:09 |
| kanzure | miam? | 08:18 |
| kanzure | "pimp my arm" http://groups.google.com/group/openprosthetics/web/pimp-my-arm | 08:19 |
| kanzure | look like kuniholm is trying to get a flamethrower attachment | 08:19 |
| kanzure | *looks | 08:20 |
| guibou | miam means: this documentation is useless ;) | 08:20 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/openprosthetics/web/lego-hand | 08:33 |
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| kanzure | hey hundred-ideas | 08:43 |
| hundred-ideas | hey kanzure | 08:44 |
| guibou | hey you, I'm back. Anyone know how to set a value with python-occ when the C api is like objet.method() = new_value (because lvalue other that name is not valid python) | 08:47 |
| kanzure | i have no idea what you just asked :x | 08:48 |
| kanzure | can you give me an example from the opencascade api? | 08:48 |
| guibou | http://designfiles.org/lab/opencascade/occ6.3.0/doc/ReferenceDocumentation/DataExchange/html/classStlAPI__Writer.html#a7 <<< Here ASCIIMode | 08:49 |
| guibou | we need to do stl_writer.ASCIIMode() = true/false; but this is not possible in python | 08:50 |
| kanzure | ASCIIMode() returns true or false | 08:50 |
| kanzure | you set ascii mode with StlAPI_Writer (the first parameter) | 08:51 |
| guibou | ypeError: new_StlAPI_Writer() takes no arguments (1 given) | 08:52 |
| guibou | TypeError: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'ASCIIMode' | 08:52 |
| guibou | Perhaps I'm stupid, but it does not work. | 08:53 |
| kanzure | the problem is that, in python, there can only be one constructor | 08:55 |
| kanzure | there are multiple constructors called StlAPI_Writer in the opencascade api | 08:55 |
| kanzure | swig probably doesn't know how to handle these situations | 08:55 |
| guibou | kanzure: the problem is also that the C api use the reference from the lvalue of ASCIIMode, which does not work in python | 08:57 |
| kanzure | fenn: how about "tangible-get" | 09:22 |
| kanzure | or tangiblegit | 09:22 |
| kanzure | actually that should work | 09:23 |
| kanzure | comments? | 09:24 |
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| kanzure | i think a photodiode in this case is overkill: http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1609732&cid=31759088 why not just use something to model the internal state of the game? | 10:27 |
| kanzure | this has some good overviews of console hacking: http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/04/07/1221232/Sony-Update-Bricks-Playstations?art_pos=7 | 10:36 |
| kanzure | er, ps2/ps3/wii hacking | 10:36 |
| kanzure | hundred-ideas: hey, have you seen the open bioinformatics foundation's call for gsoc2010 proposals? | 10:43 |
| hundred-ideas | no | 10:43 |
| kanzure | i'd like to see some of the diybio students (in universities) pitch a few ideas for obf gsoc2010 | 10:43 |
| kanzure | it's a $5k stipend to do open source software work for bioinformatics and diybio | 10:43 |
| kanzure | http://open-bio.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code | 10:43 |
| kanzure | in particular for college students only | 10:43 |
| kanzure | hundred-ideas: that bbc article is old news. check: http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio/FAQ#Has_DIYbio_been_in_the_news.3F | 10:54 |
| kanzure | (well, it was also mentioned on the list i guess- cathal sent a few comments, and so did brian) | 10:55 |
| hundred-ideas | It's a different video than the one that was mentioned before | 11:00 |
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| kanzure | wonder why ncbi is using this. http://betascience.blogspot.com/2010/02/using-aspera-instead-of-ftp-to-download.html | 11:35 |
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| fenn | ncbi should switch to bittorrent | 15:01 |
| fenn | ah good i'm not the only one saying so | 15:02 |
| fenn | bah only 23 torrents on biotorrents? that's pathetic | 15:03 |
| fenn | arent there like 10k different genomes by now? | 15:03 |
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| fenn | heh i love the president of aspera insisting that the tech support did in fact tell him to use -Q to enable rate control!!!! even though the mere fact that you need to specify it in the first place is retarded, and why is the company president posting 50 comments on a blog anyway | 15:07 |
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| kanzure | hm check out http://www.evilmadscientist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=2899&fromblock=yes at the "06:33 AM PDT | 16:30 |
| kanzure | " post | 16:30 |
| kanzure | looks like someone is claiming oshw but not actually supplying on the designs. | 16:30 |
| kanzure | nick farr (owner of hackerspaces.org) is apparently working for al gore now | 16:56 |
| kanzure | so, any problems with the climate should be strictly blamed on nick | 16:56 |
| kanzure | fenn: any idea on doing an skdb package for t-slot? | 16:58 |
| kanzure | er, for 80/20 specifically | 16:58 |
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| fenn | idea? | 17:07 |
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| fenn | i dont get that evil scientist's response | 17:09 |
| fenn | "we sent someone our designs and he published them online. therefore everybody thinks our designs are worthless" | 17:09 |
| fenn | the kit in question http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkmpIXd9Q90 | 17:14 |
| kanzure | s/idea/ideas/ | 17:22 |
| kanzure | i are grammar nazi | 17:24 |
| fenn | yeah ideas are good | 17:29 |
| fenn | i like pie | 17:29 |
| fenn | packages are cool too | 17:29 |
| fenn | make me one with everything | 17:29 |
| quantumkat | That sounds like a request for omnipresence. | 17:35 |
| fenn | an omnipresent pie package | 17:42 |
| fenn | so i met this girl named "gaea" but she pronounces it "jia" | 17:42 |
| fenn | i'm really confused | 17:42 |
| quantumkat | Is that her real name/pronunciation or is she being creative? | 17:48 |
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| fenn | apparently there are two acceptable pronunciations | 17:52 |
| kanzure | fenn: i was hoping for some ideas on how to implement a t-slot skdb package | 17:53 |
| kanzure | (if that wasn't obvious) | 17:53 |
| kanzure | looking through the 8020 catalog, there's a lot of 'extra' features you can request on each part | 17:54 |
| kanzure | so it might just be an inheritance dealy | 17:54 |
| fenn | i'll make a skeleton package, but i dont really want to scrape the website etc | 17:56 |
| kanzure | sadly the website is unscrapable | 17:57 |
| kanzure | all of their data is in the catalog | 17:57 |
| kanzure | see pm | 17:57 |
| JayDugger | Can you extract the information you need from the catalog's PDF? | 18:02 |
| kanzure | sorta kinda :) | 18:02 |
| kanzure | it's a difficult problem | 18:02 |
| JayDugger | I don't doubt that at all. PDF flaws = PDF virtues. | 18:04 |
| * kanzure uploads the catalog | 18:04 | |
| kanzure | .. slowly. | 18:04 |
| kanzure | "80/20 Product Catalog - Version 2008 (157 MB)" | 18:06 |
| JayDugger | Yeah...you could try Adobe's own PDF to HTML converter. | 18:10 |
| JayDugger | http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/access_onlinetools.html | 18:10 |
| kanzure | let me upload the pdf before you start making suggestions on how to process it | 18:11 |
| kanzure | i'm familiar with pdf2txt, pdf2html and other tools | 18:11 |
| JayDugger | I have a copy. | 18:11 |
| kanzure | already? | 18:11 |
| JayDugger | I'll shut up. :) | 18:11 |
| kanzure | did you have it before? | 18:11 |
| JayDugger | Yes. | 18:11 |
| kanzure | are you on a potentially fast upload at the moment? | 18:11 |
| kanzure | because it would take me an hour to upload my copy | 18:11 |
| JayDugger | I no longer have it. :( | 18:11 |
| JayDugger | I got it for work, at work. | 18:11 |
| kanzure | "I have a copy" | 18:11 |
| kanzure | oh! you're my target market :D | 18:11 |
| JayDugger | Point taken. | 18:11 |
| kanzure | who is your regional distributor | 18:12 |
| JayDugger | Not my cheap employer. You need a customer willing to spend money. | 18:12 |
| kanzure | yes | 18:12 |
| kanzure | who was your distributor? | 18:12 |
| JayDugger | I don't know. My boss wouldn't tell me. | 18:12 |
| kanzure | O_o | 18:12 |
| kanzure | ok, well | 18:12 |
| JayDugger | "We're not buying that. Our vendor can supply it or we'll do without." | 18:12 |
| kanzure | see pm | 18:12 |
| fenn | i wonder how long the lurkers would hang around if everybody who actually said anything left | 18:14 |
| fenn | mean half life | 18:15 |
| kanzure | sorry about that | 18:15 |
| kanzure | it's just not quite ready yet | 18:16 |
| kanzure | give me a week or something | 18:16 |
| kanzure | hm 4min to download it from davinci | 18:23 |
| kanzure | oh well | 18:23 |
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| kanzure | 156 MB product catalog http://designfiles.org/~bryan/8020/2008%20Product%20Catalog.zip | 18:27 |
| fenn | torrent that shit :P | 18:28 |
| fenn | ok so can i unzip them now? | 18:28 |
| kanzure | go ahead and unzip them locally in that folder if you want | 18:28 |
| kanzure | oh god, tarbombs | 18:30 |
| fenn | meh | 18:31 |
| fenn | nothing to see here, carry on citizen | 18:31 |
| kanzure | fenn: please try again. i just downloaded the rest of the available downloads | 18:32 |
| kanzure | the zip file saved all of 2MB on the catalog | 18:33 |
| kanzure | yippee | 18:33 |
| kanzure | ? | 18:33 |
| fenn | i dont get it. 1515-ULS.zip only has one profile in it | 18:35 |
| fenn | .dxf | 18:35 |
| katsmeow-afk | catalog of what? | 18:50 |
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| kanzure | catalog of your mom | 19:04 |
| kanzure | haha @ steve http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/images/AGI_discussion.JPG | 19:05 |
| katsmeow-afk | :-| | 19:06 |
| kanzure | and possibly also anna salamon, voss, michael anissimov, and a few others i don't recognize from behind | 19:06 |
| kanzure | david hart maybe? | 19:06 |
| jrayhawk | you laugh to quench the burning pain of beard envy | 19:06 |
| jrayhawk | man, he looks like he's in zz-top, there | 19:07 |
| kanzure | see?! | 19:07 |
| jrayhawk | or maybe he's about to say "AND MY AXE" | 19:09 |
| kanzure | maybe steve went back in time and became trained by the orcs | 19:10 |
| kanzure | and warlocks, and stuff | 19:10 |
| jrayhawk | one does not simply walk into the singularity | 19:12 |
| kanzure | you have to do it in style | 19:12 |
| QuantumG | best not to walk in on the singularity at all, it's into weird shit and it might be embarrassing | 19:23 |
| QuantumG | "oh god, I mean.. I saw nothing, carry on." <try not to be sick> | 19:24 |
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| kanzure | fenn: wtf? | 19:59 |
| kanzure | "New punctuation: "~" at the end of a line to indicate 'Snarky'." | 19:59 |
| kanzure | http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1610984&cid=31769628 | 19:59 |
| kanzure | i guess the snarkmark is catching on | 19:59 |
| kanzure | the snarkmark needs a blog | 20:00 |
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| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snark_%28punctuation%29 | 20:23 |
| kanzure | text version of the catalog: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/8020/pages.zip | 20:38 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/8020/pages/ | 20:38 |
| fenn | yeah i didn't make it up, i just think it's a good idea | 21:09 |
| fenn | reverse question mark is just confusing.. "why is it backwards?" | 21:10 |
| kanzure | ampk / biology grad student lifestyle http://www.thirteen.org/naturally-obsessed/ | 21:11 |
| kanzure | (PBS documentary thing) | 21:11 |
| fenn | somehow i read that last line as "unnaturally obsessed thirteen year old biology grad student" | 21:11 |
| kanzure | artificially obsessed? | 21:11 |
| fenn | argh fucking new not-popup bullshit doesn't ever fit on my screen | 21:12 |
| fenn | so i can't click 'close' | 21:12 |
| kanzure | sometimes they are kind enough to implement the 'escape' key | 21:12 |
| fenn | LOL "As if the pressure of scientific discovery isn't enough, the students are also competing in a worldwide race to be the first to publish their findings." | 21:14 |
| fenn | i can just see the discovery people sitting around a conference table "dammit. we've never done a story about science before, how do we make it exciting?" | 21:15 |
| kanzure | also i thought ampk was already done to death | 21:15 |
| fenn | er, pbs, nevermind | 21:15 |
| fenn | yeah, it was | 21:15 |
| kanzure | i hope you read the "As if the pressure" quote with a slightly british, slightly pretentious i-am-richer-and-more-cultured-than-you accent | 21:15 |
| fenn | you're thinking NPR, not PBS | 21:16 |
| kanzure | hm | 21:16 |
| fenn | does BBC do radio broadcast? | 21:16 |
| fenn | audio radio | 21:16 |
| * fenn hates that | 21:16 | |
| kanzure | i think my radio picks up bbc world news on one of the fm frequencies? | 21:17 |
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| Dustbin | ya BBC radio exists | 21:26 |
| Dustbin | I think any local broadcasts of BBC content would by on KUT | 21:27 |
| kanzure | now in giant size: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/images/diybio%20poster.png | 21:34 |
| fenn | wow it's almost like a screen printed poster | 21:52 |
| fenn | oops i forgot the snark marks: ~~~~ | 21:52 |
| fenn | is there a SVG? | 21:52 |
| fenn | because you know, that would be even gianter | 21:53 |
| kanzure | isn't that cheating re: size? | 22:15 |
| kanzure | hm maybe i can convince mac to find me an svg version of it if i laser cut him something | 22:15 |
| kanzure | like, the poster into acrylic | 22:15 |
| kanzure | it would be neat if the poster would double as a basic diybio microfluidic circuit | 22:16 |
| kanzure | so just by proliferating the image you get a basic functional tool if you needed it | 22:16 |
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