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| flamt | i'd love to write the copy for focusfusion.org | 04:33 |
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| Utopiah | the actual father of robotics https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Giovanni_Alfonso_Borelli ? | 05:39 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 06:17 |
| Utopiah | morning JayDugger | 06:18 |
| Utopiah | by any chance , do you know a book on the history of the research laboratory so not necessarly focusing on the scientific method only but also through its tool, the social organisation, etc | 06:19 |
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| JayDugger | I only remember reading a history of one of the national labs, Lawrence, I think. It was a bit self-serving--look at all these cool things we built. | 06:19 |
| JayDugger | let me do some looking... | 06:20 |
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| Utopiah | I doubt Lawrence lab was founded hundreds of years ago and spawn accross domains though so I guess it would lack perspective | 06:21 |
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| kanzure | blah :/ why did i give them sudo powers | 06:32 |
| flamt | sudo is ruinous | 06:33 |
| flamt | i run as root | 06:33 |
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| JayDugger | As I tell my employer, "If I could predict the future with such accuracy as that, do you think I'd work here--or at all?" | 07:05 |
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| klafka | JayDugger, to be fair, they did built lots of cool things | 07:56 |
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| JayDugger | Yes, they did. And their PR department did a good job listing them. :) | 08:13 |
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| lepton | It's unfortunate that the acronym SKDB is also used for "Serial Killer Database" | 14:16 |
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| kanzure | http://blog.makerbot.com/2010/05/26/looking-for-an-ee-wizard/ | 17:42 |
| kanzure | http://twitter.com/fakejoshuabaer | 17:43 |
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| kanzure | compare: http://twitter.com/joshuabaer | 17:43 |
| kanzure | he's also #2 on http://tweetingtoohard.com/top | 17:43 |
| kanzure | anyway, he escorted me out of the sushi bar tonight | 17:43 |
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| fenn | well at least makerbot admits they don't know what they're doing wrt electronics | 17:58 |
| neobii_ | haha | 18:02 |
| neobii_ | next generation of script kiddies? | 18:02 |
| fenn | business as usual | 18:21 |
| genehacker | don't they have zach? | 18:23 |
| genehacker | who's responsible for making reprap electronics obsolete every couple of months or so | 18:24 |
| fenn | zach | 18:24 |
| fenn | i think he's distracted with web stuff | 18:24 |
| JayDugger | fenn: how much time have you spent on getting your RepRap working? | 18:26 |
| genehacker | well he is now, but when he works... | 18:28 |
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| JayDugger | :) Must have gone to put in more time on his RepRap. | 18:29 |
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| fenn | JayDugger: about 2 months | 18:44 |
| fenn | from scratch | 18:44 |
| JayDugger | "from scratch," "two months": from sitting down to list parts, through ordering and arrival, to the first printed part? | 18:44 |
| fenn | started working on it around april 1 | 18:45 |
| fenn | hasn't printed its first part yet | 18:46 |
| JayDugger | How many hours of time have you spent on it? | 18:46 |
| fenn | uh, do you really want to know or just curious | 18:46 |
| JayDugger | I ask to help make my decision between a RepRap and a MakerBot. | 18:46 |
| fenn | get a techzone lasercut mendel | 18:46 |
| JayDugger | IIRC, those cost more. | 18:46 |
| fenn | best of both worlds | 18:47 |
| JayDugger | What do I get for it that a MakerBot doesn't provide? | 18:47 |
| fenn | get it cut at ponoko or something if you dont like the price | 18:47 |
| fenn | how could it possibly cost more than $800? | 18:47 |
| fenn | ffs | 18:47 |
| JayDugger | If the euro keeps declining, then it might cost less. | 18:47 |
| fenn | it's a bucket of bolts | 18:47 |
| fenn | techzone is based out of iowa or something like that | 18:47 |
| JayDugger | Oh? My mistake. I thought of some other company. | 18:48 |
| JayDugger | http://reprapsource.com/en/shop/shapercube | 18:49 |
| JayDugger | That's who I thought you meant. EUR822.69, sans S&H, sans VAT. | 18:50 |
| fenn | techzone is $842 + $46 shipping http://cgi.ebay.com/Complete-Laser-Cut-RepRap-Mendel-Kit_W0QQitemZ300431023438QQihZ020QQcategoryZ294QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem | 18:51 |
| fenn | his z/x axis kinda sucks though, i would make replacement parts asap | 18:52 |
| fenn | if you're willing to wait a few months you can beta test my mini mendel | 18:54 |
| kanzure | fenn: i'm thinking of buying this: | 18:55 |
| kanzure | http://cgi.ebay.com/Unimate-PUMA500-Robot-Arm-JR3-67M25A-U560-hand-/290373583741?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item439b9d437d | 18:55 |
| kanzure | except at a cheaper price | 18:55 |
| kanzure | what do you think? | 18:55 |
| klafka | is the pound dropping? | 18:56 |
| fenn | hope it's a lot cheaper, and better come with control cabinet and working software. a bare robot arm is really a boat anchor | 18:56 |
| fenn | what would you do with it anyway? | 18:56 |
| fenn | finish the damn mechmate, that's actually useful | 18:56 |
| JayDugger | klafka, I think the EUR and the US$ head for a more even exchange rate, but IANAT. | 19:01 |
| JayDugger | What use do you have for a mechanical arm, kanzure? | 19:02 |
| klafka | JayDugger, but i have to buy a like 300 pound item | 19:03 |
| klafka | so i want the pound to fall relative to the dollar | 19:04 |
| JayDugger | Good luck. | 19:04 |
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| kanzure | fenn: $650 | 19:25 |
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| JayDugger | Willow Garage Shows Off PR2 Robot | 19:49 |
| JayDugger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv0ovUb_LVs | 19:49 |
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| JayDugger | Good night, everyone. | 20:14 |
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| fenn | woot, trader joes really came through with the dumpsterage tonight | 23:43 |
| fenn | i might go back for seconds | 23:44 |
| kanzure | wtf why does google get a t-rex? http://www.flickr.com/photos/jowens/2330818928/ | 23:50 |
| kanzure | wah i want a t-rex | 23:50 |
| splicer | I wonder if it was a preator or a scavenger | 23:53 |
| splicer | predator | 23:53 |
| fenn | there are many cooler things in that building than a t-rex | 23:53 |
| fenn | this is the only thing they would let us take pictures of: http://fennetic.net/irc/google_spaceship_one.jpg | 23:55 |
| fenn | i could have taken pics when i snuck back inside later | 23:55 |
| fenn | oh well | 23:56 |
| fenn | i really liked the google earth cave | 23:57 |
| fenn | imagine a sphere made out of lcd panels with a 6DOF joystick in the middle | 23:57 |
| fenn | you stand inside this thing, when you rotate the joystick it rotates the view, translate the joystick it translates the view, up/down controls altitude like you'd expect | 23:58 |
| fenn | i started out somewhere in kazakhstan and zoomed my way to the exact building we were in | 23:58 |
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