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| genehacker | teleoperated robots vs oil spill | 00:13 |
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| splicer | I rrrreally hate bots | 03:38 |
| Utopiah | makes me wonder, are there databases of video recording/models/... of fighting techniques and are they being processed for machine learning in order to be used on humanoid robots? | 03:41 |
| Utopiah | if yes where? if not why? | 03:41 |
| splicer | we need Magnus the Robot Fighter | 03:46 |
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| * splicer suspects clemux/HAPPYmux may be a bot | 04:22 | |
| fenn | kanzure: you didnt have this one on your playlist: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nUQsRPJ1dYw | 04:26 |
| fenn | Utopiah: just getting them to walk seems to be the hard part | 04:27 |
| clemux | splicer: i'm not | 04:27 |
| fenn | once that's solved i imagine acrobatics will be pretty straightforward | 04:28 |
| clemux | sorry about the nick change flood | 04:28 |
| clemux | s/flood/spam/ | 04:28 |
| fenn | ***spam*** sorry about the spam! | 04:29 |
| fenn | mind if i ask a question? | 04:29 |
| fenn | anyone here? | 04:29 |
| clemux | yeah? | 04:29 |
| fenn | does it bother you when people say "atm machine" or "pin number" | 04:29 |
| fenn | the 4 am bird is telling me to go to sleep | 04:30 |
| Utopiah | fenn: yes, bipedal walk isn't necessarly easy but I think some could be preparing ahead. I think it's very safe to assume walking and running, if it's not perfect today, is just a matter of months. | 04:31 |
| fenn | what makes you say that? | 04:32 |
| fenn | hm nevermind i'm going to be d | 04:33 |
| splicer | ... maybe because the singularity is near | 04:48 |
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| kanzure | http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2010/06/01/big-news-all-hacker-spaces-in-the-world-get-adafruit-reseller-pricing-starting-today/ | 07:14 |
| thesnark | http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2010/06/01/big-news-all-hacker-spaces-in | 07:14 |
| thesnark | -the-world-get-adafruit-reseller-pricing-starting-today/ | 07:14 |
| thesnark | ffffuuuu | 07:14 |
| thesnark | sorry | 07:14 |
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| kanzure | bkero went offline, it's a sign of the apocalypse | 07:50 |
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| bkero | :( | 08:21 |
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| kanzure | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=how+can+the+net+amount+of+entropy+in+the+universe+be+massively+decreased | 09:42 |
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| kanzure | heh | 09:49 |
| kanzure | so i was watching "the truman show" and recognized some of the music | 09:50 |
| kanzure | as being from koyaanisqatsi (in particular "anima mundi") | 09:50 |
| kanzure | it turns out that philip glass (who did koyaanisqatsi) did the truman show | 09:50 |
| kanzure | so apparently he was reusing soundtracks or something | 09:51 |
| kanzure | "the beginning" was the track that i recognized.. it was the anima mundi sequence of exponential self-replication in bacteria | 09:51 |
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| InkBlob | kanzure: what movie you watched inspired you in any way with your science- endeavors? | 10:02 |
| kanzure | midi to gcode? hrm http://groups.google.com/group/makerbotmusic | 10:17 |
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| InkBlob | kanzure ignores me. | 10:49 |
| kanzure | i don't have a good answer for you | 10:49 |
| kanzure | i liked "the omega man" (1971) | 10:49 |
| InkBlob | okay | 10:49 |
| InkBlob | ok that sounds good | 10:49 |
| InkBlob | i'll watch that one. | 10:50 |
| InkBlob | i must sell off my 16 cores pc. | 10:52 |
| InkBlob | with 32GBytes of ram!!!!!!!!! | 10:52 |
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| kanzure | http://palomar5.org/ six week hackerspace commune in berlin? | 12:43 |
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| Utopiah | a commune? | 12:45 |
| jrayhawk | If you still care, Newegg has a promotion on the N900 that brings it down to 470 | 13:03 |
| jrayhawk | But I'm guessing a somewhat more mature maemo platform is coming out in Q4. | 13:04 |
| splicer | hacker culture has deep roots in germany | 13:05 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: thanks | 13:05 |
| kanzure | fenn: i got an email from oleg vodyanov at mesanet.com .. check your inbox? | 13:06 |
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| genehacker | http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html | 13:15 |
| genehacker | teleoperated robot diamond sawing pipe | 13:15 |
| genehacker | fenn you knew some people working with seepersad? | 13:16 |
| kanzure | i might know someone who could get you people working with seepersad.. | 13:16 |
| genehacker | I just talked to seepersad today... | 13:17 |
| genehacker | whoa two ROVS both carrying diamond saws | 13:21 |
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| splicer | is that a live feed from gulf of mexico? | 14:16 |
| splicer | ...it is, cool | 14:18 |
| splicer | http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html | 14:28 |
| splicer | (..ignore) | 14:29 |
| splicer | it doesn't look as hightech as one would hope for does it? | 14:33 |
| kanzure | hell yeah: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/05/russian-man-singlehandedly-builds-subway.php | 14:36 |
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| splicer | there is probably a better than 50% chance that the tunnel story is a hoax | 14:41 |
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| kanzure | hello Alystair | 15:06 |
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| kanzure | Alystair: are you in toronto? | 16:06 |
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| kanzure | spot the programmer! http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/tech.jpg | 16:16 |
| InkBlob | the guy with the beard. | 16:29 |
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| fenn | kanzure: do you happen to know the voltages required for the big motors on the puma? was it 78V? do you remember the link to the manuals? | 16:53 |
| genehacker | wow, that's pretty high | 16:54 |
| genehacker | even the largest stepper driver in the robotics trailer can't provide that much | 16:54 |
| genehacker | though it is an industrial robot | 16:55 |
| fenn | 78V is not that high | 17:01 |
| fenn | a lot of industrial stuff runs at 170V because that's what you get from a rectified isolation transformer | 17:02 |
| genehacker | well in terms of what I'm used to it's high | 17:42 |
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| genehacker | just as my solids professor find 27,000 psi low, because that's low in terms of what he works around.... | 17:43 |
| kanzure | fenn: 400W i think | 18:06 |
| kanzure | i was about to say 400V, but i'm pretty sure that's wrong :D | 18:06 |
| fenn | ya | 18:09 |
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| Alystair | kanzure: true | 19:18 |
| Alystair | why, planning on visiting or want to update my metadata? :) | 19:19 |
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| kanzure | Alystair: no, i have goons in your vicinity | 19:48 |
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| kanzure | hm someone using the bp oil disaster as an excuse to launch humans into space: http://unreasonablerocket.blogspot.com/2010/06/bp-oil-spill-and-space-robots.html | 20:13 |
| genehacker | well I take it as an excuse to make better telerobots | 20:15 |
| genehacker | but getting humans into space is good too | 20:16 |
| genehacker | or heck make em' autonomous | 20:16 |
| genehacker | also anyone recommend some good war driving software? | 20:16 |
| genehacker | I'm trying to single in on a wireless network | 20:17 |
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| InkBlob | kanzure, what does omega man got to do with science... the protagonist dies in the end. | 20:22 |
| kanzure | what does dying in the end have to do with science? | 20:23 |
| InkBlob | oooooooooooooo | 20:23 |
| kanzure | ? | 20:23 |
| InkBlob | philosophical. | 20:23 |
| kanzure | what? | 20:23 |
| kanzure | i just don't understand wtf you're trying to say | 20:23 |
| InkBlob | it's deep. | 20:23 |
| InkBlob | wuw wuw wtf with wtf.. | 20:24 |
| kanzure | ? | 20:24 |
| InkBlob | nevermind yo... | 20:24 |
| genehacker | perhaps we should discuss the feasibility of various movie scenarios | 20:25 |
| InkBlob | that's a great idea. | 20:25 |
| InkBlob | i'll start. | 20:25 |
| kanzure | that's a terrible idea | 20:25 |
| kanzure | go away | 20:25 |
| genehacker | or we could do something useful | 20:25 |
| InkBlob | anybody watched the movie: "The island" | 20:25 |
| kanzure | *sigh* | 20:25 |
| InkBlob | with scarlette johansson- | 20:25 |
| genehacker | what's a scarlette johansson? | 20:26 |
| InkBlob | feasibility of cloned organs replacing our own body | 20:26 |
| InkBlob | in say.... 20 years? | 20:26 |
| kanzure | well, since an organ isn't a body, that's unlikely | 20:26 |
| genehacker | well the cloning process seems wasteful and expensive to me | 20:26 |
| genehacker | do you know how expensive it would be to maintain lots of clones like that? | 20:27 |
| genehacker | very | 20:27 |
| genehacker | besides organ printing's cooler | 20:27 |
| InkBlob | suppose you can replace/renew cells with "younger" ones. what kind of method is there in | 20:27 |
| InkBlob | distribution of these cells inside the body? | 20:27 |
| InkBlob | i mean introducing and spreading these cells | 20:28 |
| InkBlob | inside the body. | 20:28 |
| genehacker | sound like a great way to get cancer | 20:28 |
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| genehacker | well I'm outta here | 20:28 |
| InkBlob | right | 20:28 |
| kanzure | InkBlob: you should do some reading (also some practice improving your english skills, fyi) | 20:28 |
| InkBlob | sure your right. | 20:29 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/papers/longevity/ might be some good reading for the distribution of stem cells throughout the body | 20:29 |
| kanzure | sorry, what's to my right? | 20:29 |
| kanzure | blah | 20:29 |
| InkBlob | wow great stuff. thanks | 20:29 |
| InkBlob | you are right. | 20:29 |
| InkBlob | don't tell me you read all these kanzure. | 20:30 |
| InkBlob | must have taken you ages. | 20:30 |
| InkBlob | if you know how to force feed-in info to the brain like in the matrix, let me know. | 20:32 |
| InkBlob | if these info are true, i wonder why people aren't doing it already. | 20:33 |
| kanzure | because nobody reads the literature | 20:33 |
| InkBlob | i wonder if there is a person out there who is already guaranteed to live 300 years. | 20:33 |
| genehacker | oh we do, it just doesn't work very | 20:34 |
| kanzure | "guaranteed" ? | 20:34 |
| kanzure | genehacker: aubrey has stated on multiple occassions that he doesn't read much any more | 20:34 |
| genehacker | WHAT? | 20:34 |
| InkBlob | yeah like, they already know their cells are "vigor" full of life (as compared to before.) and they know they will live unnaturally long. | 20:34 |
| kanzure | he spends all his time writing! and speaking at conferences. :) | 20:34 |
| genehacker | no lab work, no reading papers, just speaking and writing? | 20:35 |
| kanzure | he definitely does not do any lab work | 20:35 |
| kanzure | he's totally a non-wet-work guy, he's definitely made that clear | 20:35 |
| InkBlob | but i saw in a documentary aubrey has couple labs... | 20:35 |
| InkBlob | he doesn't work anymore? is he just a preacher now? | 20:35 |
| genehacker | now tell me at least venter does wet stuff? | 20:35 |
| genehacker | looks like... | 20:36 |
| kanzure | venter funds jcvi with a few hundred million dollars | 20:36 |
| kanzure | and it's the people that work at jcvi that work in the labs | 20:36 |
| kanzure | aubrey has students and various grants for labs, which do the work | 20:36 |
| InkBlob | i wonder if venter is looking forward to reversing aging. | 20:36 |
| InkBlob | oh. aubrey probably needs money/funding. | 20:37 |
| InkBlob | but venter... | 20:37 |
| InkBlob | wow, if he get that bio-fuel thing working, | 20:37 |
| genehacker | so venter funds and just slaps his name on papers? | 20:37 |
| InkBlob | he'll get hundreds of billions. | 20:37 |
| kanzure | i'm not sure genehacker- i haven't heard or looked into it | 20:37 |
| kanzure | but jcvi is a big organization (at least 10+ people) | 20:37 |
| InkBlob | and imagine he works on regenerative medicine with that much cash. | 20:37 |
| kanzure | back in the 90s, venter was writing papers and stuff, maybe he was doing lab work | 20:37 |
| kanzure | i mean, technically even professors in bio labs don't "do" the actual manual labor | 20:38 |
| kanzure | that's what undergrads are for | 20:38 |
| kanzure | and grad students | 20:38 |
| kanzure | DIY, remember? | 20:38 |
| genehacker | that's right we're expendable monkeys | 20:38 |
| kanzure | you might be, but i'm not ;-) | 20:38 |
| genehacker | I might be a CAD monkey soon... | 20:38 |
| genehacker | any progress on the hackerspace? | 20:39 |
| genehacker | I'll have to look at my schedule, but I might be able to stop by this week | 20:39 |
| InkBlob | kanzure, remember that log file you showed me on how much you chat/phone people online and you keep stats on it? | 20:40 |
| InkBlob | is that a stand-alone program? can i have it? | 20:40 |
| InkBlob | can i download it somewhere? | 20:41 |
| InkBlob | venter tried to kill himself in the open sea. | 20:42 |
| InkBlob | with a surf board. | 20:42 |
| InkBlob | then he decided not to. and came back on shore. | 20:42 |
| InkBlob | it's a good thing he did. | 20:42 |
| genehacker | who knows maybe Venter's research will cause the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE! | 20:43 |
| genehacker | *this is what some people actually believe | 20:44 |
| InkBlob | i am just *hoping venter will engage in longevity research. reversing aging. | 20:44 |
| InkBlob | i'm pretty sure he can. if he wanted to. | 20:44 |
| InkBlob | it'd be nice if there were a zombie apocalypse. I'd steal stuff from shopping malls. | 20:45 |
| InkBlob | and jewerly shops. | 20:45 |
| InkBlob | ...or the bank. | 20:46 |
| genehacker | oh well reversing aging research is like cancer research, we need to do a lot of basic research first to understand the problem | 20:46 |
| InkBlob | I keep thinking this line from pirates of the caribbean. | 20:46 |
| InkBlob | "Gentlemen, there is more than one way to live forever." | 20:46 |
| InkBlob | I'm pretty darn sure there's thousands of ways to extend one's lifespan unnaturally. | 20:47 |
| genehacker | why? jewerly can't defend you from zombies, and other people will go there too | 20:47 |
| kanzure | InkBlob: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/meetlog.txt | 20:47 |
| InkBlob | no for money man. | 20:47 |
| kanzure | InkBlob: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/meetlog/tag_extractor.py | 20:47 |
| InkBlob | Kanzure: yeah that's it. how can i do the same? | 20:48 |
| genehacker | why? post zombie apocalypse, food and staying alive is going to be more valuable than jewerly | 20:48 |
| InkBlob | is that.. python? | 20:48 |
| kanzure | genehacker: we already understand the problem, and even have various avenues of research that we're pursuing | 20:48 |
| kanzure | InkBlob: yes | 20:48 |
| InkBlob | aubrey predicted in youtube that, in 10 years, people will start believing in ending aging and they will know they can. I think lot of people know it now. I know, and i'm just an imagineer. | 20:49 |
| genehacker | then it seems I don't understand the problem... | 20:49 |
| kanzure | are you seriously employed by disney as an imagineer? | 20:49 |
| genehacker | I need to read moar | 20:49 |
| genehacker | time to leave | 20:49 |
| InkBlob | Kanzure: thanks, I will download python executer and try out the script. | 20:49 |
| InkBlob | kanzure: No. But I do watch a lot of disney movies. | 20:50 |
| InkBlob | I'm just an web designer, i majored in design arts and fine arts. | 20:51 |
| InkBlob | But i can have my interests elsewhere. | 20:51 |
| InkBlob | Being employeed by disney, now there is a good idea. | 20:52 |
| InkBlob | Happiest place on earth! | 20:52 |
| InkBlob | wow these files you sent me about stem cell therapy. it's beyond me. It's way too complicated with complex, professional terms. | 20:53 |
| InkBlob | What can i do to understand all this? | 20:53 |
| InkBlob | do i need to learn biochemistry and stuff? | 20:54 |
| kanzure | you need to learn how to use a dictionary | 20:54 |
| InkBlob | oh. | 20:54 |
| InkBlob | and wikipedia. | 20:54 |
| InkBlob | well, i can probably understand "of it." but not enough to experiment something or create something... | 20:54 |
| kanzure | but if you want stem cell therapy papers in particular, you should try the stem cells folder: | 20:54 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/papers/stem-cells/ | 20:54 |
| InkBlob | kewl | 20:55 |
| InkBlob | thhaaaangks. | 20:55 |
| InkBlob | what kind of archive is this? Is this online library of some university? | 20:55 |
| InkBlob | interesting index. | 20:56 |
| kanzure | no, it's my archive | 20:56 |
| InkBlob | oh. you must be dedicated. | 20:56 |
| InkBlob | into this. | 20:56 |
| InkBlob | all this. | 20:56 |
| * kanzure nods | 20:56 | |
| InkBlob | any reason in particular why you decided to take this "waivering" road? | 20:56 |
| InkBlob | waiver (in faith) for most people. | 20:57 |
| kanzure | "waver: uncertain in purpose or action" | 20:57 |
| kanzure | this doesn't seem uncertain to me | 20:57 |
| InkBlob | damn good answer. | 20:57 |
| InkBlob | solid. | 20:57 |
| InkBlob | so it is your reality, because you understand it. so it is your reality. | 20:58 |
| InkBlob | kewl. | 20:58 |
| InkBlob | me too. except... | 20:58 |
| InkBlob | my cup is empty. | 20:58 |
| InkBlob | gotta fill it with knowledge. | 20:58 |
| InkBlob | if only... i can learn everything with... super brain enhancer so i can learn fast. | 20:59 |
| InkBlob | if only i wasn't dyslexic. | 20:59 |
| InkBlob | kaplah! | 20:59 |
| kanzure | don't make me get out my klingon dictionary | 20:59 |
| InkBlob | how'd you know? | 21:00 |
| kanzure | because i have a klingon dictionary | 21:00 |
| kanzure | :( | 21:00 |
| InkBlob | oh. | 21:00 |
| InkBlob | trekkie. | 21:02 |
| InkBlob | I cried when Data died in the end. | 21:02 |
| InkBlob | I will revive him one day in the image of Brent Spiner. | 21:02 |
| InkBlob | I will create Klingnons with 2 hearts, 4 kidneys and 8 pairs of lungs. | 21:03 |
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