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| Utopiah | ( http://nrg.mbi.ufl.edu/ Neuroprosthetics Research Group (NRG) ) | 00:30 |
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| kanzure | (01:53:18 AM) Cameron Ruggles: Is there a technique, which is used to copy the strains of microbs on a petri dish, over to another by placing them on top of each other, so the agars touch? if so.. what is this technique called? or am I just imagining things? | 07:36 |
| kanzure | i've been put into the creative commons | 07:37 |
| kanzure | http://www.slideshare.net/humanityplus/d2-s22-bryan-bishop | 07:37 |
| cluckj | the picture of the dude fixing his own robotic(?) arm is great | 07:44 |
| phryk | Mhh No-Myostatin-Mouse. I'd like to have that mutation :3 | 07:52 |
| cluckj | beefcaaaake | 07:55 |
| phryk | Mhhh, Cake... | 07:58 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 08:01 |
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| phryk | Morning, JayDugger! | 08:08 |
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| kanzure | cluckj: yeah. what's even more awesome is that he's jonathan kuniholm and runs openprosthetics.org | 08:56 |
| kanzure | he lost an arm somewhere in iraq | 08:56 |
| kanzure | oh this is annoying | 08:59 |
| kanzure | http://www.abjentrepreneur.com/news/2010/06/new_capital_factory_class_targets_team.html | 08:59 |
| kanzure | "At Hurricane Party, 27-year-old Rene Pinnell met his two cohorts through a three-day networking and brainstorming event for students at the University of Texas." | 08:59 |
| kanzure | well that's a lie | 08:59 |
| JayDugger | Is that the first time you've caught the press lying about something you know well? | 09:00 |
| kanzure | JayDugger: there's a potential lawsuit between that guy and me :/ | 09:01 |
| kanzure | i was one of the people he met at that "networking and brainstorming event" | 09:01 |
| kanzure | and there was only one other he met there | 09:01 |
| JayDugger | Ah... | 09:01 |
| kanzure | anyway, don't mind me | 09:01 |
| kanzure | i'm already jaded about business, wheee | 09:02 |
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| JayDugger | The Vampire Diaries--A BBC sitcom about the lives of DeHaviland engineers during the early days of the jet age. | 09:18 |
| JayDugger | Cheer up, everyone. Someday future entertainers will mine the past for fifth-rate entertainment. | 09:19 |
| JayDugger | Eventually they'll work their way down the logs of this IRC channel, even. | 09:19 |
| JayDugger | Austin City Limits will be remade as a police procedural. Cops will have to run about town looking for illegal fabs and hell-kitchens, trying to enforce local thermal pollution laws while keeping up with the Green Party political officer and the attractive journalist. | 09:21 |
| JayDugger | I give the show two seasons, three tops. | 09:21 |
| JayDugger | Then it will go into syndication, and fandom will take it over. ;) | 09:21 |
| cluckj | hahahaha | 09:24 |
| JayDugger | Don't distract me--I'm filing a copyright claim as I type. | 09:25 |
| JayDugger | Better still, don't encourage me. | 09:25 |
| JayDugger | Another $0.02 for the off-topic jar. | 09:26 |
| cluckj | not if I cc it first | 09:32 |
| genehacker | what's a hell kitchen | 09:41 |
| JayDugger | A SF neologism, meaning a miniature biological factory, optimized for making weapons, usually at safety's expense. | 09:41 |
| genehacker | also I voted for the "put a huge ass radiator around earth's equator" proposal, and they can pry my fusor from my cryogenically frozen hands! | 09:42 |
| genehacker | neat, let's never make one of those | 09:42 |
| JayDugger | Amen to that. | 09:43 |
| JayDugger | Amen to both. | 09:43 |
| genehacker | though if we do make a DNA synthesizer we could make the ebola RNAi cure(100% effective in n=4 nonhuman primates!) | 09:44 |
| JayDugger | Did you see the NYT's article on Bigelow Aerospace this week? | 09:44 |
| genehacker | I think I did | 09:44 |
| JayDugger | It had a neat graphic of the facility. | 09:44 |
| genehacker | did you know the Japanese successfuly deployed a solar sail | 09:45 |
| JayDugger | Plus the token "Bigelow's a weirdo," and yes, I did. | 09:45 |
| genehacker | that might have an ion engine on it | 09:45 |
| JayDugger | I still don't think they'll have a moon base in ten years. | 09:45 |
| genehacker | ahem, they're planning a robot moon base | 09:45 |
| genehacker | robots don't need to ever come home | 09:46 |
| JayDugger | I hope they delight me. I doubt they'll do it. | 09:46 |
| genehacker | I don't | 09:47 |
| JayDugger | I'm listening. | 09:47 |
| genehacker | Japan does a lot of public program type things to stimulate their economy | 09:47 |
| genehacker | and this is one of them | 09:47 |
| JayDugger | Oh? | 09:48 |
| JayDugger | I hadn't heard that. | 09:48 |
| JayDugger | But why build hardware? Paper studies make work too. | 09:49 |
| genehacker | because paper studies aren't as impressive I guess | 09:49 |
| kanzure | "and they can pry my fusor from my cryogenically frozen hands" hehe | 09:49 |
| kanzure | why is genehacker more funny today than usual | 09:50 |
| genehacker | sleep deprivation | 09:50 |
| kanzure | wonderful | 09:50 |
| genehacker | I haven't slept all night | 09:50 |
| genehacker | I feel great | 09:50 |
| kanzure | there's a "science comedian" talking before or after me at the summit | 09:50 |
| JayDugger | Me neither--but that's normal. | 09:50 |
| kanzure | http://hplussummit.com/malow.html | 09:50 |
| kanzure | "Brian Malow is Earth's Premier Science Comedian (self-proclaimed). " | 09:51 |
| genehacker | no really I feel great | 09:51 |
| kanzure | "He has fabricated a career of appearing in places not normally occupied by stand up comedians. " | 09:51 |
| kanzure | "In a pattern extending back to childhood, he has been laughed at by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the American Chemical Society, NASA, JPL, the National Association of Science Writers, Apple, Dell, Microsoft, his younger sibling, and many others. " | 09:51 |
| kanzure | i wouldn't mind doing standup comedy for NIST :) | 09:51 |
| genehacker | if only you could make a joke involving a watt balance | 09:51 |
| genehacker | anyway when are you heading down to h+ kanzure? | 09:52 |
| kanzure | i'm leaving at 2pm | 09:52 |
| genehacker | good luck then | 09:52 |
| kanzure | thanks :) | 09:52 |
| kanzure | this is going to rock | 09:52 |
| * kanzure has his minifluidic device demo thing sitting next to him | 09:53 | |
| genehacker | and admire those wonderfully inefficient aircraft engines | 09:53 |
| JayDugger | That's the spirit! Tell George Dvorsky hello for me. | 09:53 |
| genehacker | sharpie thing? | 09:53 |
| kanzure | nope, not sharpie | 09:53 |
| kanzure | laser cut :) | 09:53 |
| kanzure | but i don't have food coloring dyes, so i'll have to use human blood | 09:53 |
| genehacker | the fluidic amplifier or something else? | 09:53 |
| kanzure | i wonder what the viscosity of human blood is | 09:53 |
| genehacker | it varies with shear rate | 09:53 |
| kanzure | hrm | 09:53 |
| genehacker | I think it's shear thinning | 09:54 |
| JayDugger | And exposure to air. | 09:54 |
| kanzure | anyway, you'll just have to watch the presentation to see the live demo | 09:54 |
| kanzure | although to be honest, it's not that impressive when you consider academic stuff done in papers | 09:54 |
| genehacker | highlighter ink and blacklight? | 09:54 |
| kanzure | someone will fetch dye for me, no biggie | 09:54 |
| cluckj | food dye is pretty easy to get :P | 09:55 |
| kanzure | the sharpie minifluidics stuff has come in handy many times during dinner parties | 09:55 |
| kanzure | cluckj: it took me 3mo to get some | 09:55 |
| kanzure | i can assimilate vast volumes of scientific literature in less than a day | 09:55 |
| genehacker | does it do anything besides pass dye through it? | 09:55 |
| kanzure | but getting to a grocery store taxes my abilities | 09:55 |
| kanzure | genehacker: no | 09:55 |
| cluckj | hehe | 09:55 |
| kanzure | cluckj: have you read any of these? http://designfiles.org/papers/longevity/ | 09:55 |
| genehacker | you could have at least made an emulsifier thing | 09:55 |
| kanzure | i might talk a little about the diy longevity projects that are going on.. but i only have 10min :x | 09:56 |
| genehacker | that simple thing fenn showed a video of | 09:56 |
| kanzure | wouldn't i need oil to do an emulsification? | 09:56 |
| cluckj | kanzure, probably not, I'm a social scientist and only an ex-biochemist :) | 09:56 |
| genehacker | oil is widely available | 09:56 |
| kanzure | cluckj: impure! impure! | 09:56 |
| kanzure | (i'm kidding) | 09:56 |
| * cluckj chokes and dies | 09:57 | |
| genehacker | very widely available in the gulf of mexico | 09:57 |
| kanzure | i find your lack of faith disturbing | 09:57 |
| cluckj | hehe | 09:57 |
| kanzure | (now you choke and die) | 09:57 |
| cluckj | +1 | 09:57 |
| * cluckj chokes and dies | 09:58 | |
| kanzure | :) | 09:58 |
| JayDugger | Time to go. Good afternoon, everyone. | 09:58 |
| genehacker | time to sleep | 09:59 |
| cluckj | http://designfiles.org/papers/Human%20DNA%20methylomes%20at%20base%20resolution%20show%20widespread%20epigenomic%20differences.pdf | 09:59 |
| cluckj | I have read that one | 09:59 |
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| fenn | re "Is there a technique, which is used to copy the strains of microbs on a petri dish, over to another" <- yes, you use a piece of velvet stretched over a cylinder that acts like thousands of tiny needles | 10:06 |
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| fenn | "replica plating" | 10:12 |
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| kanzure | hi hundred-ideas | 11:03 |
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| hundred-ideas | hey there kanzure | 11:04 |
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| kanzure | wtf | 11:20 |
| kanzure | fedex just came by my house to drop off the mesanet.com controllers | 11:20 |
| kanzure | but apparently you have to be over 21 to get this stuff? | 11:20 |
| kanzure | so he took it back.. | 11:20 |
| fenn | lol | 11:21 |
| fenn | no toys for you! | 11:21 |
| fenn | seriously that makes no sense whatsoever | 11:22 |
| kanzure | http://www.mrcglobal.org/ andrew says they are important somehow? | 11:26 |
| fenn | sorry i can't read that | 11:27 |
| fenn | it's written in liberalese | 11:27 |
| kanzure | do you mean legalese? | 11:27 |
| fenn | no | 11:28 |
| fenn | "share the goal of enabling better, healthier lives for the world's poor. We have a global network of partners - scientists, entrepreneurs, policymakers and government officials, non-governmental organizations and funding agencies - that can help bring the models we develop to scale." | 11:29 |
| fenn | i'd ask for help translating but i don't really care tbh | 11:29 |
| kanzure | wait wait, i was asking *you guys* for translation help /first/ | 11:29 |
| kanzure | no fair. no tag backs. | 11:29 |
| fenn | double dog gonnit | 11:30 |
| fenn | i already sat through my share of soft headed blabbering this week | 11:30 |
| kanzure | how was lang? | 11:31 |
| fenn | he's a very good showman, it seemed like he had given the talk hundreds of times | 11:32 |
| kanzure | uh, i think he has :) | 11:32 |
| fenn | '"The Force Majeure" is a work to reflect on the oncoming effects of Global Warming from a whole systems perspective. What can culture do, specifically the artist, as a response to the loss of glaciation and the ensuing problems with rivers and droughts in a region like Tibet? This work suggests a sweeping, but possible, biological response to the 2.4 million square kilometers of the Tibetan plateau as well as to other regions of the world.' | 11:32 |
| kanzure | remember his talks to toyota and other car manufacturers? whoever did the origami commercial thingy. | 11:32 |
| fenn | yeah he helped with that commercial | 11:33 |
| kanzure | it's really weird how artists think they can just band together and solve the world's problems by "designing" out of thin air | 11:33 |
| fenn | yeah i still had no idea what their "proposal" was at the end of it | 11:33 |
| kanzure | and they are proud that they are artists and they are proud they don't know biology | 11:33 |
| kanzure | etc. | 11:33 |
| fenn | right | 11:33 |
| kanzure | i think this is what used to be called "the humanities" in the past 40 years or so | 11:34 |
| kanzure | "the humanities" used to be actual study and stuff- renaissance man style- but was recently taken over in the last handful of decades | 11:34 |
| fenn | you're thinking of "the liberal arts" | 11:34 |
| fenn | gershenfield thing | 11:35 |
| kanzure | i think arts and humanities are valuable subjects and so on, but the academic elitism just boggles me | 11:35 |
| kanzure | even outside of academia! artists who are living "green" to save the world | 11:36 |
| kanzure | anyway, i'll bbl | 11:36 |
| kanzure | cya freaks in boston | 11:36 |
| fenn | ciao | 11:36 |
| fenn | don't strap a breadboard to your chest | 11:36 |
| fenn | heh or a microfluidic device | 11:36 |
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| Yocttar | any1 familiar with ajax around? | 11:42 |
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| ybit | Yocttar: what are you wanting to know? | 12:03 |
| Yocttar | how to activate a script after loading a page using ajax: for example, the loaded page contains a div with an id, then some script should do something with that div. | 12:19 |
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| fenn | gadzooks | 13:08 |
| fenn | "HP is making test wafers with memristors on them down to 3nm in size." | 13:08 |
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| JayDugger | Anyone fluent in legalese? | 13:50 |
| JayDugger | It looks as if the FDA just told 23andMe they need FDA approval for their kit. | 13:51 |
| JayDugger | http://www.fda.gov/downloads/MedicalDevices/ResourcesforYou/Industry/UCM215240.pdf | 13:51 |
| JayDugger | I can't tell from the letter. | 13:52 |
| fenn | boo hiss | 13:58 |
| fenn | that's not even legalese | 13:59 |
| fenn | just disgusting | 13:59 |
| JayDugger | Easy, fenn. I've been awake for 22+ hours with only caffeine. | 13:59 |
| JayDugger | http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/ProductsandMedicalProcedures/InVitroDiagnostics/default.htm | 14:02 |
| JayDugger | They also wrote navigenics, Illumina, Knome, deCODE, and Pathway Genomics. | 14:03 |
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| jcluck | see y'all in boston..... | 14:40 |
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| cluckj | kanzure, make it to boston okay? | 20:09 |
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| Redeemer | So I am curious, how many of ya'll are attending the current H+ event? | 20:31 |
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| fenn | only three i think | 20:39 |
| fenn | kanzure cluckj and hundred-ideas | 20:40 |
| Redeemer | Thats better than none | 20:40 |
| fenn | you know i think i actually like ipython better than bpython, even if its tag completion is uglier | 20:41 |
| fenn | at least it has control-R (history search) and doesn't crash all the time | 20:41 |
| Redeemer | I had other plans for this exact timeframe, but with recent events I would not have had the cash to do it at this time. | 20:41 |
| Redeemer | Not crashing all the time is important' | 20:41 |
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| Redeemer | I need to go back to reading through my python tutorials and continue mah learnings | 20:42 |
| fenn | having a project is helpful | 20:44 |
| fenn | i have plenty if you want to borrow one | 20:45 |
| fenn | (that is a joke btw) | 20:45 |
| Redeemer | I'm sorry, I was too busy drowning in my current pit of un-completed projects and unmanifested ideas. | 20:47 |
| Redeemer | However, reading PDFs with a portable platform.. that gives me no reason to have ignored them for this amount of time. | 20:51 |
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| fenn | the django admin interface is neat | 21:33 |
| fenn | heh "Take a few minutes to marvel at all the code you didn't have to write." | 21:38 |
| kanzure | Yocttar: yeah i do ajax stuff | 21:43 |
| kanzure | Yocttar: i think javascript has an eval() command, that might help youu | 21:43 |
| kanzure | Redeemer: also Ian_Daniher | 21:44 |
| kanzure | fenn: you're only now doing django-admin stuff? | 21:45 |
| fenn | yeah i never bothered to actually learn how to use it | 21:49 |
| kanzure | it's nice :) | 21:49 |
| fenn | all this database migration bullshit is just ... bullshit | 21:50 |
| fenn | at least it should be enabled by default | 21:50 |
| fenn | maybe i'm missing some obvious thing; if you change a variable name it totally fubars the database, right? | 21:51 |
| fenn | and if you change a class name it really fubars everything | 21:51 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 23:35 |
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