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| drazak | kanzure: so I found a local hackerspace, but their dues are outrageous, so I told them I'd donate experience and items instead of money, hope thye muy it | 01:36 |
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| Cluckj | I'm sorry I missed that talk, hahaha | 06:19 |
| Cluckj | I caught the end of it | 06:19 |
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| Cluckj | Philosophies not grounded in reality, kanzure? | 06:41 |
| Cluckj | Which talk? This one? | 06:42 |
| Utopiah | (the whole morning will be like that) | 06:42 |
| Cluckj | It's interesting that a lot of the discussion shows some allergy to ethics :) | 06:42 |
| Cluckj | Or philosophy... | 06:43 |
| Cluckj | Now I'm interested in talking about it, hehe | 06:44 |
| Utopiah | IMHO it's because good philosophy is hard to do thus rare, babbling is way more common | 06:44 |
| Cluckj | Ah | 06:44 |
| Selar | Are they on break now? | 06:51 |
| Utopiah | yes | 06:52 |
| Selar | Ah | 06:52 |
| Utopiah | http://hplussummit.com/schedule.html | 06:52 |
| * Selar nods | 06:53 | |
| Selar | Thank yo | 06:53 |
| Selar | u | 06:53 |
| Selar | Are Aubrey DeGrey's slides anywhere? | 06:56 |
| kanzure | Selar: yes, but also a transcript http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/d2s1-aubrey-de-grey.html | 06:57 |
| * Selar nods ;) | 06:57 | |
| Selar | Your transcript was the first thing I read :) | 06:57 |
| kanzure | Cluckj: i think this tweet summarizes my views succintly: " wlgriffiths | 06:57 |
| kanzure | 06:57 | |
| kanzure | #hplus "identity" is an ill-formed concept. That was "mooted" by stoned mystics thousands of years ago. " | 06:57 |
| kanzure | also the cliams of the existence of consciousness disturb me | 06:58 |
| kanzure | *claims | 06:58 |
| QuantumG | microtubuals, must be | 06:59 |
| Cluckj | We should talk about that later kanzure | 06:59 |
| kanzure | how about now.. it's just james hughes going on, right? | 07:05 |
| Cluckj | I'm interested in the ethical discussion, or lack thereof, because one of the core ideas from my discipline is that politics become embodied in artifacts that people create | 07:05 |
| kanzure | uh oh | 07:05 |
| Cluckj | Hehe, I kinda want to see this one though | 07:05 |
| kanzure | no, you don't *jedi mind trick* | 07:05 |
| Cluckj | I'm not an ethicist by any means, but I know what they're talking about | 07:06 |
| Cluckj | Hahaha | 07:06 |
| Cluckj | Have you seen his stuff before? | 07:06 |
| kanzure | james and i have spent many email exchanges | 07:07 |
| kanzure | i have decided he's a hopeless lost cause | 07:07 |
| kanzure | so i'm not spending any more time on it | 07:07 |
| Cluckj | Hehehe | 07:07 |
| kanzure | (btw, him taking over WTA to advertize for his book, was not cool) | 07:07 |
| Cluckj | ? | 07:08 |
| kanzure | "cyborg democracy"? yeah.. | 07:08 |
| Cluckj | Sounds neat ;) | 07:09 |
| kanzure | have you uh, read it? | 07:09 |
| Cluckj | No, but the title is catchy as f*ck | 07:09 |
| Cluckj | heh, yeah I see what you mean about him | 07:10 |
| Cluckj | I think I've heard this stuff before | 07:10 |
| Cluckj | Haha, goatfuckin' | 07:10 |
| kanzure | so far this talk isn't his usual spiell | 07:11 |
| Cluckj | Maybe it's good you stayed :o | 07:11 |
| kanzure | your ethical babble doesn't work on my mind, only money | 07:11 |
| kanzure | (well, money doesn't work on me either) | 07:12 |
| Cluckj | The pursuit of bling is an ethical system in itself | 07:12 |
| Cluckj | My view of ethics is pretty pragmatic, not just babble | 07:14 |
| kanzure | i seriously doubt he's "buddhist". based on his former ideas.. | 07:15 |
| Cluckj | Ethics is the way we do things, and the ways in which we decide to do them | 07:15 |
| Cluckj | Maybe he's a recent convert | 07:15 |
| kanzure | hmm | 07:15 |
| kanzure | ooh @ "BM3h-based sensors measure dopamine release in cell culture." | 07:16 |
| Cluckj | I'm unsure how much "traditional philosophy" will help us do things... | 07:16 |
| kanzure | "Directed evolution of a magnetic resonance imaging contrast agent for noninvasive imaging of dopamine" | 07:16 |
| Cluckj | We need new ethics and new discussions about it | 07:16 |
| Cluckj | Cool | 07:17 |
| Cluckj | Measure the pleasure... | 07:17 |
| kanzure | i wish i could go back in time and kill whoever started the dopamine=pleasure meme | 07:18 |
| Cluckj | I think this guy presented at my discipline's conference | 07:18 |
| Cluckj | I've definitely seen this before | 07:18 |
| Cluckj | Hahahah | 07:18 |
| kanzure | dopamine is pervasive throughout the nervous system and is not solely related to pleasure | 07:18 |
| Cluckj | It's especially present in gut neurons | 07:19 |
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| kanzure | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7798012/Robert-Boyles-prophetic-scientific-predictions-from-the-17th-century-go-on-display-at-the-Royal-Society.html | 07:23 |
| kanzure | wrldpc2: are you in boston? | 07:23 |
| wrldpc2 | yes! | 07:23 |
| kanzure | wrldpc2: you should show up to hplus summit.. i'm sitting in the harvard university science center at the moment | 07:23 |
| wrldpc2 | I just got back from Parris Island. | 07:23 |
| kanzure | get back in the car and get over here :P | 07:24 |
| kanzure | i'm speaking at 3:10pm EDT (boston time) | 07:24 |
| wrldpc2 | oorah! | 07:24 |
| Cluckj | Could you email that to me please? I'm on my blackberry and can't log | 07:24 |
| wrldpc2 | I sent a message to Alex Lightman to see if I could get listed and he referred me to the registration page :\ | 07:24 |
| kanzure | Cluckj: email the link? | 07:24 |
| kanzure | wrldpc2: bullshit, just show up | 07:24 |
| Cluckj | Yeah | 07:24 |
| kanzure | call me if you face any trouble | 07:24 |
| Cluckj | Yeah dude just show up, it doesn't look like they're checking tags | 07:25 |
| wrldpc2 | Bryan: cool. I'll be through. Would it be imposing if I brought a friend? | 07:25 |
| wrldpc2 | i'll be through | 07:25 |
| kanzure | wrldpc2: not really, no | 07:25 |
| wrldpc2 | 9] | 07:26 |
| wrldpc2 | oops | 07:26 |
| wrldpc2 | I'll be through ASAP I just have to take care of some basics first. | 07:26 |
| Cluckj | This talk is a pretty good one... | 07:26 |
| kanzure | the only guy who raised his hand when he asked "is anyone here a veteran" was Mark Hatch (CEO, TechShop) | 07:27 |
| wrldpc2 | How was Wolfram? | 07:27 |
| kanzure | i avoided his talk | 07:27 |
| kanzure | so i don't know :) | 07:27 |
| wrldpc2 | heh | 07:27 |
| Cluckj | Oh? What does he do? I took note of that too | 07:27 |
| wrldpc2 | Did Lloyd talk? | 07:28 |
| Utopiah | ysterday | 07:28 |
| wrldpc2 | Who was the best so far? Who were you guys really wanting to hear speak? | 07:29 |
| kanzure | andrew hessel was good as usual | 07:29 |
| kanzure | but he's an obsessive compulsive presenter | 07:29 |
| wrldpc2 | tight | 07:30 |
| wrldpc2 | hottie on the mic | 07:31 |
| Cluckj | Lmao, I was talking about this with someone at the party last night | 07:31 |
| Utopiah | I wish Llyod had had Wolfram's time :/ | 07:32 |
| wrldpc2 | is she just pontificating or wut | 07:32 |
| wrldpc2 | i really could give a shit about the philosophical implications of the singularity. | 07:33 |
| Cluckj | No, she's talking about personhood | 07:33 |
| wrldpc2 | did Aubrey speak yet? | 07:33 |
| Cluckj | But that could be pontificating :P | 07:34 |
| Utopiah | yep at ~8:30am | 07:34 |
| wrldpc2 | wow this talk is lame | 07:38 |
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| Cluckj | Why? | 07:38 |
| Cluckj | I'm not trying to argue, I'm an anthropologist trying to learn :) | 07:39 |
| wrldpc2 | it's all philosophical mumbo jumbo. | 07:40 |
| wrldpc2 | she's trying to get over on her sexiness. | 07:40 |
| wrldpc2 | SHE IS QUITE SEXEH. | 07:40 |
| Cluckj | I'm going to go talk to her, I'm glad she's talking about this stuff here | 07:41 |
| Cluckj | This is a talk I could skip :) | 07:43 |
| kanzure | heather was actually talking about "brand development" | 07:44 |
| kanzure | it's hard to spot, but her talk was secretly about brands and commercial marketing | 07:44 |
| kanzure | hm at congential analgesia | 07:44 |
| Cluckj | That's definitely a part of it | 07:45 |
| Cluckj | "Brand" is a similar concept to "identity" | 07:45 |
| Cluckj | Except it's YOUR "brand" | 07:45 |
| kanzure | please stop | 07:45 |
| kanzure | i don't want to spam this channel with this bullshit | 07:46 |
| Cluckj | Hahaha :) | 07:46 |
| Cluckj | I'll save it up for you in person :P | 07:47 |
| kanzure | gene:scn9a | 07:48 |
| kanzure | Pain perception is altered by a nucleotide polymorphism in scn9a, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA, 2010 Mar 16; 107(11):S148-53 | 07:48 |
| Cluckj | Is there an archive of the tweets? | 07:50 |
| kanzure | probably not | 07:51 |
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| Cluckj | Doh | 07:52 |
| kanzure | NewHarvest | 07:52 |
| kanzure | http://abolitionist.com/ http://superhappiness.com/ | 07:54 |
| kanzure | wtf? http://publicindividual.com/ | 07:54 |
| Cluckj | Wes unruh is one of my friends in troy, ny | 07:55 |
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| kanzure | hi alidigitalis | 07:56 |
| Cluckj | What were you wtfing? | 07:57 |
| kanzure | the website doesn't explain anything | 07:57 |
| alidigitalis | aloha kanzure | 07:57 |
| Cluckj | Oh, haha | 07:57 |
| alidigitalis | anyhow, am working on a diybio project, very slowly for the past 8 yrs or so | 07:57 |
| alidigitalis | http://greenstonepatent.com = there's an enzyme (cannabigerolic acid synthase) that's been characterized but not sequenced... | 07:58 |
| Cluckj | Kanzure, he's a professional blogger, if you google him, there's more stuff | 07:58 |
| kanzure | hrm | 07:58 |
| alidigitalis | i'm trying to get together a better understanding of what needs to be done to then make a budget | 07:59 |
| kanzure | alidigitalis: i don't understand your front page on that link either | 07:59 |
| kanzure | what's the ncbi id of the enzyme? | 08:00 |
| alidigitalis | the main part is the patent, the rest is humorous history | 08:00 |
| alidigitalis | kanzure: let me find it... brb | 08:00 |
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| kanzure | "multi-center hydrogen bond" | 08:04 |
| kanzure | allosphere/allobrain/allonature hrm.. | 08:04 |
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| kanzure | hi uniqanomaly__ | 08:04 |
| Utopiah | they could make metallo to navigate in their own design :-# | 08:05 |
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| kanzure | http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220090042974%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20090042974&RS=DN/20090042974 | 08:05 |
| uniqanomaly__ | hi | 08:05 |
| kanzure | "Transgenic Stilbene-carboxylate synthase-like enzyme (TSCSL)" (see Fellermeier 1998) | 08:06 |
| kanzure | alidigitalis: was that it? | 08:06 |
| alidigitalis | you're on it man | 08:06 |
| alidigitalis | thank you for getting me in line ;) | 08:07 |
| alidigitalis | the reason it's interesting is that THC is biologically reactive against mosquito larvae and many other nasty critters in ppm with no known ld-50 in higher organisms | 08:09 |
| alidigitalis | so it's an environmentally friendly detergent + anti-malarial | 08:10 |
| alidigitalis | and you would need to consume 10+ gallons of fluid to even feel the effects of the THC (by which time water poisoning might be a more serious concern) | 08:10 |
| alidigitalis | anyhow, i'm definitely behind the times in biotech and am trying to come up with a plan of attack and a budget | 08:11 |
| alidigitalis | i'm waiting to get my forum account on diybio.org to start a thread as I imagine the reply is much more educated and complex than the question | 08:13 |
| alidigitalis | also my day job is webdev and i see the heybryan.com wiki is down, let me know if anyone needs a hand there, i've done several mediawiki installs and used a lot of their plugins too over the years | 08:15 |
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| kanzure | noah bushnell is hilarious | 08:29 |
| Cluckj | This presenter has cool pedagogy | 08:29 |
| Utopiah | meh, he talks 80% about him then skip the content, where is the pedagogy there? | 08:29 |
| Cluckj | I need to put something like that in my presentations | 08:30 |
| kanzure | Utopiah: it was an hour long talk reduced to 10min | 08:30 |
| kanzure | this guy has more credentials than about any one else | 08:30 |
| Utopiah | I heard, that's why it's even more important to know what you are going to skip | 08:30 |
| kanzure | anyway, it was hilarious | 08:30 |
| Cluckj | There was content in the slides he skipped | 08:30 |
| kanzure | lots of content | 08:30 |
| Cluckj | Notice that some of the content that he skipped was pictures and short phrases, stuff that you could read and see while he was skipping through it | 08:31 |
| Cluckj | Yeah, he knew what he could skip for sure :) | 08:32 |
| Cluckj | So what he did was structure his presentation in a way that let him skip things, but let people pick up on what he was skipping | 08:34 |
| Cluckj | It's pretty cool, I loved that | 08:34 |
| Cluckj | I could be wrong about it though, I'll have to ask him | 08:38 |
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| alidigitalis | are you talking about nolan bushnell? | 08:47 |
| Cluckj | Yeah | 08:48 |
| alidigitalis | he's all over the map | 08:50 |
| Cluckj | How about this guy? Robert terchek (sp?) | 08:50 |
| Cluckj | Tercek | 08:52 |
| Cluckj | That's the kind of stuff I want to help diy bio with | 08:55 |
| Utopiah | I was expecting sth crappy because of the title but IMHO he made good point regarding strategy of communication | 08:56 |
| Cluckj | What tercek was talking about at the end | 08:56 |
| Cluckj | Yeah, definitely | 08:56 |
| Cluckj | Sth = something? | 08:57 |
| Utopiah | yes | 08:57 |
| Cluckj | Ah | 08:57 |
| Utopiah | http://transhumanistwiki.com/wiki/Transhumanist_IRC_Chatroom | 09:00 |
| Utopiah | should I mention this one there? | 09:00 |
| Utopiah | (guess not since he knew http://transhumanistwiki.com/wiki/Hplusroadmap_wiki ) | 09:01 |
| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. Time for sleep. Good luck with your presentation, B.B.. | 09:02 |
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| wrldpc2 | what has Mac Cowell been up to lately? He's kept his distance from the H+ community. | 09:12 |
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| Cluckj | http://www.diybio.org | 09:13 |
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| Cluckj | Kanzure, is it okay to post this channel on twitter? | 09:16 |
| Cluckj | Or maybe make a new one for the conf? | 09:17 |
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| Utopiah | Cluckj: post #transhumanism | 09:24 |
| Cluckj | Okay | 09:26 |
| Cluckj | I'll get grant to do it | 09:26 |
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| kanzure | Cluckj: yeah it's fine | 09:48 |
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| kanzure | wrldpc2: yeah mac was around yesterday | 09:48 |
| Cluckj | Word. I'll send people over when they come in | 09:48 |
| AJollyLife | ...wow, this is a much bigger channel :) | 09:48 |
| Cluckj | Mac might be around today | 09:48 |
| kanzure | AJollyLife: are you Jolly? | 09:49 |
| AJollyLife | yep :) | 09:49 |
| kanzure | shouldn't you be behind a camera :P | 09:49 |
| AJollyLife | psh, im behind my netbook, uploading photos | 09:50 |
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| kanzure | close enough i guess | 09:50 |
| AJollyLife | just took a photo of you though :P | 09:50 |
| kanzure | like a ninja | 09:50 |
| AJollyLife | i've got some long glass :) | 09:51 |
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| wrldpc2 | who the hell is talking right now? | 11:05 |
| wrldpc2 | "massive question" ?? ehhh .. no. | 11:05 |
| kanzure | wrldpc2: are you present yet? | 11:06 |
| wrldpc2 | on my way now | 11:08 |
| wrldpc2 | got a foot out the door. | 11:08 |
| kanzure | my talk starts at 3:10 supposedly.. (2:10 CST) but it'll probably be delayed | 11:08 |
| kanzure | aquaponica, unfied field bank, design education, palomar, recrear | 11:08 |
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| kanzure | hi thesnark | 11:09 |
| thesnark | hey kanzure | 11:09 |
| kanzure | my talk starts in about an hour | 11:09 |
| thesnark | I know :) | 11:09 |
| kanzure | but it might be delayed a bit | 11:09 |
| thesnark | ok | 11:09 |
| thesnark | oh hm could you give me that link again? | 11:09 |
| thesnark | to the stream? | 11:09 |
| kanzure | http://hplussummit.com/streaming.html | 11:09 |
| thesnark | I'm totally loving this waiting music they have | 11:11 |
| kanzure | quick, hook up shazam to it! | 11:12 |
| thesnark | I just googled the lyrics | 11:12 |
| thesnark | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWVWi5KXMWs | 11:12 |
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| thesnark | "A lot easier than C++" Not that hard to master C++ basics... | 11:20 |
| AJollyLife | #hplus photos from Sat! http://bit.ly/bwQs1u Please tag photos - All CC licensed! Please give me feedback/let me know what you want to see! | 11:21 |
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| kanzure | AJollyLife: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/photos/ feel free to add these | 11:26 |
| AJollyLife | hmm. i think we probably need an main page that links to all #hplus photos | 11:27 |
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| kanzure | hi metaliving | 11:43 |
| kanzure | mark hatch transcript: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/d2s16-mark-hatch.html | 11:43 |
| kanzure | david orban transcript: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/d2s17-david-orban.html | 11:44 |
| kanzure | Directed evolution of a magnetic resonance imaging contrast agent for noninvasive imaging of dopaminehttp://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v28/n3/full/nbt.1609.html | 11:45 |
| kanzure | dopamine | 11:45 |
| kanzure | hrm | 11:45 |
| kanzure | Directed evolution of a magnetic resonance imaging contrast agent for noninvasive imaging of dopamine http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v28/n3/full/nbt.1609.html | 11:45 |
| kanzure | there we go | 11:45 |
| Alystair | dopamine deficient :( | 11:45 |
| Alystair | standard reward pathways don't work for me unless I take the lovely ritalin | 11:46 |
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| kanzure | what's with you people and thinking dopamine=pleasure? | 11:48 |
| kanzure | like this has only happened in the past week | 11:48 |
| kanzure | and it keeps showing up | 11:48 |
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| Alystair | who are you calling... you people... >:| | 11:55 |
| Alystair | hehe | 11:55 |
| Alystair | kanzure: humans like to over simplify | 11:55 |
| Utopiah | precision is costly | 11:56 |
| kanzure | http://www.amazon.com/Knowing-Doing-Gap-Companies-Knowledge-Action/dp/1578511240 | 11:57 |
| kanzure | Alystair: it hasn't been just you (sadly) | 11:57 |
| Utopiah | http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/1111.html | 11:58 |
| heath | so... any good talks today? | 11:59 |
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| GPenguin | hi guys | 12:00 |
| ybit | hi GPenguin | 12:00 |
| GPenguin | are you all having a good day? | 12:01 |
| thesnark | yes | 12:01 |
| GPenguin | :) | 12:01 |
| thesnark | How about yourself GPenguin? | 12:01 |
| GPenguin | besides that i am missing my love i am enjoying the evening | 12:02 |
| ybit | GPenguin: kanzure is about to talk after this girl... at the link i sent you | 12:02 |
| GPenguin | about which girl? | 12:02 |
| ybit | there's a girl talking... | 12:02 |
| victoreremita | it doesn't seem like he's after that girl on the schedule | 12:02 |
| kanzure | http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajolly/sets/72157624141398171/ | 12:03 |
| kanzure | hi GPenguin | 12:03 |
| ybit | oh right, joseph jackson | 12:03 |
| kanzure | ybit: no, joseph jackson first | 12:03 |
| kanzure | yep | 12:03 |
| * GPenguin tips hat at kanzure | 12:03 | |
| kanzure | hi there | 12:03 |
| kanzure | my battery is dying. i hope i can transcript joseph's talk though.. | 12:03 |
| ybit | again have there been any good talks today? | 12:03 |
| ybit | kanzure: no outlets? | 12:03 |
| GPenguin | i am after my beloved Christine Zimmermann :P | 12:04 |
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| kanzure | mark hatch at techshop, although it wasn't as fantastic as otherwise | 12:04 |
| kanzure | ybit: no outlets near where i moved to | 12:04 |
| ybit | ah | 12:04 |
| victoreremita | the first summit was better | 12:04 |
| kanzure | this was an ok talk: http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/d2s12-robert-tercek.html | 12:04 |
| ybit | ah, i wanted to see that one | 12:04 |
| kanzure | this was hilarious (maybe the video will show the humor) http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/d2s11-noah-bushnell.html | 12:04 |
| Utopiah | (more and more people already, let's seea after the talk! ;) | 12:04 |
| kanzure | aubrey was ok http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/d2s1-aubrey-de-grey.html | 12:04 |
| ybit | i'm also curious about brian malow, patrick hopkins, and james hughes... | 12:05 |
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| kanzure | meh at james hughes :P | 12:05 |
| ybit | :) | 12:05 |
| kanzure | and hopkins | 12:05 |
| kanzure | http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2010/ | 12:06 |
| ybit | they have done a better job at getting the talks online this year | 12:06 |
| Cluckj | Awesome, more people are in here :) | 12:06 |
| ybit | i was able to watch some of the talks i missed after the conf yesterday | 12:06 |
| kanzure | ybit: are they posting the videos somewhere? | 12:06 |
| victoreremita | funny how you skipped just one specific transcript :P | 12:06 |
| kanzure | just one? | 12:06 |
| ybit | kanzure: they are grouping them it seems at the livestream link, http://www.livestream.com/humanityplus | 12:07 |
| victoreremita | oops | 12:07 |
| victoreremita | (was looking at the first ones) | 12:07 |
| victoreremita | there was a 4chan raid on the livestream chat | 12:07 |
| kanzure | omg i missed it? :( | 12:07 |
| GPenguin | sorry when i am all silent, but all i can do is think of my sweet Apple | 12:07 |
| ybit | victoreremita: really? :) what time | 12:07 |
| kanzure | i hope 4chan raids it during my talk | 12:07 |
| victoreremita | around one hour ago | 12:08 |
| Cluckj | Hahaha | 12:08 |
| kanzure | it's a great honor | 12:08 |
| ybit | kanzure: quickly post to 4chan! :) | 12:08 |
| GPenguin | maybe another cup of coffee | 12:08 |
| kanzure | to be raided/raped by 4chan | 12:08 |
| kanzure | ybit: you go ahead | 12:08 |
| kanzure | joseph jackson first though | 12:08 |
| Cluckj | Yeah spam it on 4chan :) | 12:08 |
| Utopiah | admin is now securing the chan | 12:08 |
| kanzure | bbl. | 12:08 |
| Cluckj | doh | 12:08 |
| victoreremita | most speakers are rather tiring | 12:09 |
| kanzure | victoreremita: agreed | 12:10 |
| kanzure | actually, could you guys tweet it up for joseph jackson and me? | 12:10 |
| kanzure | in particular, drop lots of links to open science summit | 12:10 |
| kanzure | http://opensciencesummit.com/ | 12:10 |
| victoreremita | computation pattern network connections knowledge complexity, reminds me of that tool for creating a TED talk | 12:11 |
| victoreremita | too much buzzword use, not much content | 12:11 |
| Alystair | I want a transscript | 12:11 |
| Alystair | so I can summize it | 12:11 |
| AJollyLife | opensciencesummit conflicts with a different conference for me :( | 12:12 |
| GPenguin | this song is for you, Christine! | 12:12 |
| fenn | tweet tweet | 12:12 |
| GPenguin | :D | 12:13 |
| Alystair | why is that so blurry | 12:14 |
| Alystair | it's a futurist meet up and they can't even get a proper resolution? | 12:14 |
| thesnark | stream not working shhiiiiitt | 12:14 |
| victoreremita | works for me | 12:14 |
| AJollyLife | the recorded vids will be in 1080p | 12:15 |
| Alystair | that's excessive, screenshots/slides and a tiny face cam would do the trick | 12:16 |
| Cluckj | HDh+... | 12:16 |
| thesnark | WTF IT'S NOT WORKING | 12:16 |
| Alystair | thesnark: your end | 12:16 |
| thesnark | Gahhhh | 12:16 |
| fenn | YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG | 12:16 |
| thesnark | I know | 12:16 |
| thesnark | It was working before ;__; | 12:16 |
| Utopiah | I wonder if he could fit an entire PDF book on a slide :-# | 12:17 |
| Alystair | lol. | 12:19 |
| Cluckj | Hmm maybe I should go to this... | 12:20 |
| Utopiah | :] | 12:20 |
| Alystair | did you already present kanzure? | 12:22 |
| Cluckj | he's going up right now | 12:22 |
| Alystair | oh wicked | 12:23 |
| Alystair | that's him? | 12:23 |
| fenn | CAPTAIN AMERICA | 12:23 |
| Alystair | that's him? | 12:23 |
| uniqanomaly_ | ftw! | 12:23 |
| fenn | yeah | 12:23 |
| * Alystair never met kanzure | 12:23 | |
| Alystair | wow GREAT presenter | 12:23 |
| Alystair | finally someone with proper slide skills | 12:23 |
| Cluckj | Yeah no shit, haha :) | 12:23 |
| Alystair | he needs a clicker | 12:24 |
| Cluckj | He spent a lot of time on them | 12:24 |
| AJollyLife | more people need to read slideology | 12:24 |
| Cluckj | I really really like his title image slide | 12:24 |
| Alystair | yeah | 12:24 |
| AJollyLife | it takes a lot of work to develop good slides, most people dont bother :( | 12:24 |
| Alystair | who designed that? | 12:24 |
| AJollyLife | <-- used to give a *ton* of speeches | 12:24 |
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| Cluckj | the DIY h+ thing? He did | 12:24 |
| wrldpc2 | Who is in the auditorium now? | 12:25 |
| AJollyLife | wrldpc2: i am | 12:25 |
| Cluckj | I am, jolly is | 12:25 |
| wrldpc2 | I'm sitting in the back row on the right. | 12:25 |
| Alystair | http://images.highspeedbackbone.net/itemDetails/I106-4350/I106-4350-callout.jpg | 12:25 |
| wrldpc2 | huge glasses, blue shirt. | 12:25 |
| Alystair | I use that badboy right there, works great | 12:25 |
| fenn | Alystair: graphics | 12:25 |
| fenn | gah | 12:25 |
| fenn | http://diybio.org/2009/12/11/diybio-graphics/ | 12:26 |
| Alystair | man I didn't realize how big a deal kanzure was :o | 12:26 |
| Cluckj | haha | 12:26 |
| Cluckj | It's well deserved | 12:27 |
| AJollyLife | Alystair: presentation remotes are very useful. so is presentation mode...or memorizing speeches | 12:27 |
| GPenguin | hands off of my remote control! | 12:27 |
| GPenguin | i am of peaceful nature, but if you touch this while i am DJ'ing i go mad :P | 12:28 |
| Alystair | AJollyLife: I like having complete control because in smaller groups people might want to ask pertient questions mid-presentation | 12:28 |
| GPenguin | yeah, me too Alystair | 12:29 |
| GPenguin | but on the other side, giving control to somebody you trust can be a relief | 12:29 |
| AJollyLife | Alystair: I add in extra slides for questions that I anticipate | 12:29 |
| fenn | someone make him talk faster! | 12:30 |
| Cluckj | I think his pace is fine :P | 12:30 |
| Alystair | AJollyLife: would be funny if you did it in a similar way QI (a british comedy series) does for "gotcha" answers | 12:30 |
| Cluckj | People are paying attention | 12:30 |
| AJollyLife | his speech is better organized than most | 12:31 |
| Cluckj | Yup | 12:31 |
| AJollyLife | also, it helps when you dont put up everything you are saying on the slides :) | 12:31 |
| Cluckj | I use that pedagogy too, it really helps people focus on what you're saying | 12:32 |
| Roy78 | gj Bryan | 12:33 |
| Cluckj | Woop woop | 12:33 |
| fenn | miaow | 12:34 |
| Alystair | woo Bryan | 12:34 |
| victoreremita | great job | 12:34 |
| AJollyLife | kanzure: you had a photo of a good friend of mine on that last slide :) | 12:35 |
| fenn | hm well i cant figure out how to copy text from the ustream comments.. anyway people liked it | 12:37 |
| Utopiah | Dave_k: yea!!!! more wild applause!!!! | 12:37 |
| Utopiah | bobdole: \o/ Great speech Byran | 12:37 |
| fenn | "too bad he can't transcribe himself" | 12:37 |
| GPenguin | not yet! | 12:38 |
| ybit | kanzure: forgot to mention, it may have been a good idea to mention snorting stem cells along with gfp? | 12:49 |
| GPenguin | by cells belong to me and nobody else! | 12:51 |
| GPenguin | well ok, except for a certain woman maybe ... | 12:51 |
| GPenguin | but only maybe | 12:51 |
| Cluckj | Ew? | 12:52 |
| Cluckj | Snorting gfp cells off a hooker's ass? | 12:52 |
| ybit | heh, er.. not where i was going with that :) | 12:53 |
| fenn | a robot hooker's ass? | 12:54 |
| fenn | living the dream, baby | 12:54 |
| Cluckj | Well, you can count on me to go there, hehe :) | 13:02 |
| Alystair | kurtz on stage now | 13:02 |
| Alystair | er kurzweil >_> | 13:03 |
| wrldpc2 | Bryan what has everyone been doing after the conf? | 13:07 |
| Alystair | The H+ logo Bryan used in the cover slide is actually the logo for a now defunct singularity like magazine | 13:09 |
| Alystair | http://www.hplusmagazine.com/ | 13:09 |
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| Cluckj | yeah... | 13:10 |
| Cluckj | He made the diy and put them together... | 13:11 |
| Utopiah | seems everything goes faster and faster but Kurzweil talks... | 13:11 |
| Cluckj | Zing :) | 13:11 |
| GPenguin | waka waka | 13:11 |
| Cluckj | People pay attention better when you speak slowly and clearly :) | 13:12 |
| AJollyLife | Alystair: the magazine is not defunct | 13:13 |
| AJollyLife | :D | 13:13 |
| fenn | the magazine is being held hostage in a political temper tantrum | 13:15 |
| fenn | less than a year ago the organization was called WTA | 13:16 |
| AJollyLife | i thought the people responsible for the H+ summit were taking it over? | 13:16 |
| Alystair | meh I'm zoning out on kurz | 13:17 |
| Alystair | ain't my thing | 13:17 |
| victoreremita | same old same old | 13:18 |
| Cluckj | A couple people on twitter agree | 13:19 |
| ybit | http://gekgasifier.pbworks.com/How-to-Build-and-Run-the-GEK-Gasifier | 13:20 |
| ybit | so what does kurzweil do aside from talking? | 13:21 |
| ybit | what has came out of the singularity u? | 13:21 |
| victoreremita | he's been making movies | 13:21 |
| victoreremita | :P | 13:21 |
| GPenguin | Christine Zimmermann, i love you! | 13:22 |
| victoreremita | i like how they think of his appearance in the summit as something really important | 13:22 |
| victoreremita | it's a transhumanist summit, he SHOULD be there | 13:23 |
| Cluckj | He has some notoriety, and brings it with him to here | 13:23 |
| victoreremita | those aren't happening every day | 13:23 |
| Cluckj | Haha, yes I agree | 13:23 |
| fenn | ybit: needs a nose cone | 13:24 |
| fenn | tintin rocket | 13:24 |
| ybit | :) | 13:24 |
| * GPenguin dances a bit to distract and relax | 13:25 | |
| fenn | ybit did you tweet your question? | 13:26 |
| ybit | no, i probably should | 13:26 |
| Cluckj | Jolly, I haven't seen this before :P | 13:27 |
| ybit | tweeted | 13:27 |
| ybit | Cluckj: :) | 13:28 |
| fenn | i havent seen any q/a actually, so i dunno what all this "tweet #hplus with questions" is about | 13:28 |
| Cluckj | I haven't seen any either | 13:28 |
| AJollyLife | I belive they had one q/a | 13:29 |
| Cluckj | Oh, crap I missed it, how did it go? | 13:29 |
| ybit | there's a q/a on the schedule.. | 13:29 |
| Cluckj | Schedules are as flexible here as definitions of "human" | 13:30 |
| ybit | Cluckj: did you make it to the h+ beer meetup? | 13:31 |
| Cluckj | Yeah | 13:31 |
| ybit | how many people showed up? | 13:31 |
| ybit | anything come of it? | 13:31 |
| Cluckj | A billion | 13:31 |
| Cluckj | About 40 people were there when I showed up at 8 | 13:31 |
| Cluckj | There were probably twice as many earlier than that | 13:32 |
| ybit | i'm guessing it was more of a social event with no goals in mind :) | 13:32 |
| Cluckj | I got a lot out of it | 13:32 |
| ybit | oh? | 13:32 |
| Cluckj | I'm an anthropologist :) | 13:32 |
| Cluckj | I met a lot of people and talked about a lot of things, almost all of which were related to science, ethics, or transhumanism | 13:34 |
| Cluckj | It was a phenomenal networking event | 13:34 |
| Cluckj | I saw a lot more discussions and waving/smiling between people today | 13:35 |
| AJollyLife | yeah, it was great, i love the making friends/networking aspects | 13:35 |
| Cluckj | Gotta get that friendly community going even stronger | 13:35 |
| AJollyLife | i'm going to be quite sad when the conference ends | 13:35 |
| Cluckj | Go to the openscience summit :) | 13:36 |
| ybit | Alystair, Cluckj, agreed, i really enjoyed meeting people in person at the first event | 13:36 |
| Cluckj | There's a singularity conference in a bit too | 13:36 |
| Cluckj | Ybit did we meet? | 13:36 |
| ybit | i unfortunately am currenlty not able to financially afford traveling every 6 months or so | 13:36 |
| ybit | Cluckj: i'm not sure..what's your name? | 13:37 |
| Cluckj | Oh haha, nm | 13:37 |
| Cluckj | Jon cluck | 13:37 |
| ybit | were you @ the first event? | 13:37 |
| ybit | fenn: did i meet Cluckj? :) | 13:37 |
| Cluckj | I was confused and thought you were here :o | 13:37 |
| ybit | ah | 13:37 |
| Cluckj | This is the first h+ thing I've been to | 13:38 |
| ybit | i'll be in boston this fall visiting with a friend there | 13:38 |
| ybit | plan on going to the diybio meeting there | 13:38 |
| AJollyLife | Cluckj: did i meet you? | 13:38 |
| AJollyLife | im horrible with names :/ | 13:38 |
| fenn | hi Cluckj, i'm in the bay area | 13:39 |
| ybit | Cluckj, AJollyLife: where are you two from? | 13:39 |
| fenn | wish i could be there | 13:39 |
| Cluckj | Yep, I am awful with names too, which is unfortunate for my profession | 13:39 |
| AJollyLife | ybit: currently florida, but I identify with chicago the most | 13:40 |
| AJollyLife | i rely on people to remember me. it usually works | 13:40 |
| ybit | AJollyLife: i'm in alabama | 13:40 |
| Cluckj | Jolly we met yesterday after the last panel, I commented on your shirt/blazer combo | 13:40 |
| AJollyLife | ybit: i think my single largest expense after rent is travel | 13:40 |
| ybit | fenn, kanzure: what happened to katsmeow? | 13:40 |
| AJollyLife | Cluckj: ok! i remember you :) i think i've got a good photo of you up on my stream | 13:40 |
| Cluckj | Ybit, I am a graduate student at RPI in Troy NY | 13:40 |
| AJollyLife | Cluckj: what major? i know some people over there | 13:41 |
| ybit | Cluckj: drazak is in ny | 13:41 |
| Cluckj | Ah, cool | 13:41 |
| Cluckj | Orly... | 13:41 |
| drazak | troy is the other side of the state from me | 13:41 |
| AJollyLife | yeah. i'll be in nyc later this year for the hackers on planet earth conference | 13:41 |
| Cluckj | Someone told me there was someone at rpi doing diy bio or transhumanism stuff | 13:42 |
| Cluckj | Ah | 13:42 |
| Cluckj | Oh yeah it was kanzure who told me | 13:42 |
| drazak | kanzure: I'm waiting for the local hackerspace to email me back | 13:42 |
| Cluckj | Drazak do you do diy bio? | 13:42 |
| drazak | Cluckj: some, mainly I tell people how bad their ideas are, or provide different solutions | 13:43 |
| Cluckj | Cool :) I'm studying/participating in the boston group | 13:44 |
| drazak | nice | 13:44 |
| Cluckj | It is | 13:44 |
| Cluckj | They're pretty awesome | 13:44 |
| drazak | they want like $30 a month for membership here | 13:44 |
| drazak | I told them I'm a poor college student and that I'll pay with experience and equiptment/items | 13:45 |
| Cluckj | I can nerd out (I used to be a biochemist), and do some anthropological research at the same time | 13:45 |
| ybit | we charge $15/month here | 13:45 |
| ybit | cost of living is much lower too | 13:45 |
| Cluckj | That's not too bad | 13:46 |
| Cluckj | Does that money go to rent/utilities? | 13:46 |
| ybit | yeah, everyone can afford it.. right now it goes directly to projects we want to work on | 13:46 |
| drazak | I think they'll be ok with me being a poor student | 13:46 |
| Cluckj | Er, if I may ask... | 13:46 |
| ybit | Cluckj: oh it's fine, we start paying $100/month rent later this year | 13:47 |
| Cluckj | Cool :) | 13:47 |
| drazak | the local space has 3600sq ft though | 13:47 |
| ybit | 6500sq ft here :) | 13:47 |
| Cluckj | haha, that's a bunch of space | 13:48 |
| drazak | nice | 13:48 |
| ybit | but it requiring a lot of restoration work | 13:48 |
| ybit | still it's in the middle of the downtown area beside the university, so it is nice | 13:48 |
| Cluckj | It's super DIY then, hah! | 13:48 |
| Cluckj | Do you get a lot of college students? | 13:49 |
| ybit | ~70% are college students or grads | 13:50 |
| Cluckj | Nice | 13:50 |
| Cluckj | do you frequent this channel? | 13:51 |
| ybit | Cluckj: yup, i'm usually idle though | 13:51 |
| ybit | i'm idle everywhere, including the openmanufacturing, diybio, diy-h+ mailing lists | 13:51 |
| Cluckj | Ah, okay, I'm looking for more research sites for "diy bio" | 13:51 |
| Cluckj | Hehe | 13:51 |
| ybit | the mailing lists and the faq is helpful | 13:51 |
| ybit | http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio/FAQ | 13:52 |
| Cluckj | Yup | 13:53 |
| Cluckj | I've been lurking on the ml for about 18 months? | 13:53 |
| Cluckj | Kanzure, have you seen mac? I have a book to give to him | 13:54 |
| ybit | i'm guessing kanzure's computer is recharging atm | 13:56 |
| ybit | or powered down.. | 13:56 |
| fenn | i dont see your question on the first two pages of tweets.. | 13:57 |
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| AJollyLife | ybit: his computer looks up to me | 14:01 |
| AJollyLife | hes probably busy transcribing | 14:01 |
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| danx00r | heh I knew this had to exist | 14:02 |
| danx00r | tried hplus, humanityplus etc | 14:02 |
| AJollyLife | its weird, i tried googling for this, but no mentions | 14:02 |
| Utopiah | (there is also a log available) | 14:03 |
| ybit | hi danx00r | 14:03 |
| danx00r | hi ybit | 14:03 |
| fenn | this channel has actually been around longer than the humanity+ name change | 14:03 |
| danx00r | you watching the stream? | 14:03 |
| ybit | everyone is i believe | 14:03 |
| danx00r | heh well it's not advertised (the chan) | 14:03 |
| ybit | i'm not going to ask again :) | 14:04 |
| ybit | but anyway, i'm going to watch the rest of this, bbl | 14:04 |
| danx00r | man livestream's chat sux -- no completion, no history, no logging | 14:04 |
| fenn | i think it's actually an irc backend somewhere, or maybe that's ustream | 14:04 |
| AJollyLife | i found the transhumanist irc channel, but not htis one via google | 14:05 |
| AJollyLife | fenn: thats ustream i belive | 14:05 |
| Utopiah | http://www.ustream.tv/forum/showthread.php?t=478 | 14:05 |
| Utopiah | (thus irc://c.ustream.tv ) | 14:06 |
| kanzure | " mrgarlic | 14:06 |
| kanzure | 14:06 | |
| kanzure | @Jolly What about fake beard DIY biotech project? Transhumanists could recognize each other on the street. Open Beard #hplus " | 14:06 |
| kanzure | "taliensib Open Source patent pools for self defense against corporate patent trolls? Pity it's too late for GNU/Linux..." | 14:07 |
| fenn | gnu/linux was based on prior art anyway | 14:09 |
| fenn | explicitly | 14:09 |
| kanzure | "OrthoNormalRuss: oh noes! Perry Metzger has already jumped Brian Bishop and is gonna hire him before I can! Curses, Perry!" | 14:09 |
| fenn | well, gnu was, linux just sorta happened | 14:10 |
| uniqanomaly_ | seizure of power on gov. level -> fixing up system | 14:10 |
| uniqanomaly_ | thats the way | 14:10 |
| uniqanomaly_ | ^^ | 14:11 |
| fenn | why is it i know the name perry metzger? | 14:11 |
| drazak | seriously? http://pastebin.ca/1882469 | 14:11 |
| fenn | ah he's on twister | 14:12 |
| fenn | sifter, whatever | 14:12 |
| fenn | and tt | 14:13 |
| wrldpc2 | what is going on after the conf | 14:14 |
| kanzure | a good corporate citizen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYoTj-leqrk&feature=PlayList&p=C2C7DF2DAF18D2D9&playnext_from=PL&index=6&playnext=1 | 14:15 |
| kanzure | ok done with http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23hplus backlog | 14:18 |
| wrldpc2 | here he goes with the fucking anti-diybio spiel | 14:18 |
| wrldpc2 | "a secret crazy bioterrorist could engineer a supervirus!!" ... uhh yeeeeeahh ... but a public crazy diybiologist could produce an antigen. | 14:19 |
| wrldpc2 | zero sum. | 14:19 |
| kanzure | fuck, snorting stem cells would have been awesome to mention :) | 14:20 |
| wrldpc2 | haw | 14:20 |
| kanzure | Alystair: actually the magazine is coming back to life | 14:20 |
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| wrldpc2 | oh this is interesting to listen to kurzweil's apology here. his view has evolved some. | 14:20 |
| ybit | okay and i'm back | 14:20 |
| Cluckj | Haha, he is trashing diybio? | 14:21 |
| kanzure | Cluckj: yeah mac is around somewhere | 14:21 |
| kanzure | hi danx00r | 14:21 |
| ybit | wtf is with all the media surrounding kurzweil o.O | 14:21 |
| Cluckj | Oh word, thanks! | 14:21 |
| fenn | hah i love the swarm of photographers attacking the stage | 14:21 |
| kanzure | wrldpc2: dunno, but let's hang out a bit | 14:22 |
| kanzure | hi sinito | 14:22 |
| kanzure | ok, laptop needs to close again | 14:22 |
| kanzure | grumble grumble | 14:22 |
| fenn | enjoy | 14:22 |
| kanzure | i ran out of business cards :( wah | 14:22 |
| kanzure | i gave them out as napkins at sprout.. | 14:22 |
| ybit | adios | 14:22 |
| kanzure | i don't know why | 14:22 |
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| alidigitalis | oh yeah, for anyone following whattup i've gotten a protein sequencer + pcr machine from ebay recently... of course the reagents'll cost more than the machines... c'est la vie | 14:48 |
| drazak | http://www.buffalolab.org/ | 14:52 |
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| genehacker | whose trashing diybio? | 15:32 |
| genehacker | crap, I missed the singularity didn't I? | 15:33 |
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| fenn | wtf no unicode for whuffie? | 15:58 |
| fenn | hah, this should be the official symbol http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/37859603/588494 | 16:01 |
| jrayhawk | Re: d2s11-noah-bushnell.html: his name is Nolan. | 16:17 |
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| genehacker | where are the Hplus videos? | 16:37 |
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| fenn | they'll be on humanityplus.org, probably up on monday afternoon i'd guess | 16:53 |
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| genehacker | blast | 16:56 |
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| genehacker | also Hayabusa successfully reentered with asteroid rock samples | 16:56 |
| fenn | neat-o | 16:56 |
| genehacker | I can't wait till they recover them | 16:56 |
| fenn | i wonder what they'll say when they find bacterial contamination | 16:56 |
| genehacker | it's from the earth | 16:57 |
| genehacker | I wonder if they'll find any metals in the sample | 16:58 |
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| wrldpc2 | kanzure you there? | 17:20 |
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| ybit | kanzure: yeah, hopkins: meh | 17:31 |
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| ybit | tercek's talk was good | 18:34 |
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| fenn | ffs it's impossible to get a quote on how much to expect for an aluminum honeycomb panel or aluminum composite panel | 19:59 |
| thur | anyone know where to find image recognition implementations of Neuroph (neuroph.sourceforge.net) to batch process a bunch of pdfs? | 20:06 |
| thur | just throwing that out there | 20:06 |
| genehacker | what do they use aluminum honeycomb for? | 20:13 |
| genehacker | aircraft parts right? | 20:13 |
| fenn | i'm building a life support pod | 20:14 |
| fenn | apparently it's used for clean room walls and various businessy things like as a substrate for printing signs and light weight curtain walls | 20:14 |
| fenn | thur you just mean OCR? i dont see what's special about neuroph | 20:15 |
| thur | i'm looking for image recognition | 20:15 |
| thur | i have a bunch of pdfs | 20:16 |
| fenn | what are you trying to recognize? | 20:16 |
| thur | and i want to take out a piece of text (i.e. image) and then try to find that image (or something close to it) in a larger collection of pdfs | 20:16 |
| thur | bryan turned me on to artificial neural networks | 20:16 |
| thur | and i've been messing with it since then but kind of having a block now | 20:17 |
| fenn | there are a lot of algorithms that work, not only neural nets | 20:17 |
| thur | ok | 20:17 |
| thur | i have a collection of scanned contracts | 20:17 |
| thur | it's just text really | 20:17 |
| genehacker | why do they use it in clean room walls? | 20:17 |
| genehacker | what sort of life support pod? | 20:17 |
| genehacker | oh | 20:17 |
| fenn | genehacker: it contains no dust | 20:17 |
| genehacker | interesting | 20:17 |
| fenn | for my experimental warehouse lifestyle | 20:17 |
| genehacker | I was thinking more about the pressure capabilities of it | 20:18 |
| fenn | no, mostly for thermal and sound insulation | 20:18 |
| thur | i'm really just looking for the most accurate OCR or image recognition software that can batch process | 20:18 |
| fenn | honeycomb doesn't provide very good thermal insulation, but aluminum composite panel may not be strong enough without external support over a 4x8 panel | 20:18 |
| fenn | so i was thinking 3 aluminum composite panel walls and a honeycomb floor with a slab of EPS foam | 20:19 |
| fenn | thur: if you want open source check out tesseract/ocropus, but i could never get it to work, configuration is a nightmare | 20:20 |
| thur | i'm messing with it now | 20:20 |
| thur | but yes | 20:20 |
| thur | agreed | 20:20 |
| fenn | bkero has done some stuff with it | 20:20 |
| fenn | if you figure it out, please write up a step by step 'how to ocr pdfs with ocropus' and post it on the web | 20:21 |
| thur | hahaha | 20:21 |
| thur | that's exactly what i am looking for now! | 20:21 |
| thur | will do fenn | 20:21 |
| genehacker | why do you want to scan in pdf papers? | 20:22 |
| fenn | so you dont have a bunch of useless crap laying around | 20:22 |
| fenn | isn't it obvious? | 20:22 |
| thur | no image matching recommendations? it seems like a neural network would work if i could just get a program that allowed batch processing | 20:22 |
| thur | true | 20:22 |
| thur | actually i work for a company that scans all its signed contracts | 20:22 |
| fenn | i guess i dont really understand what you're trying to do.. something like djvu that just says 'this section over here looks like this other section'? | 20:22 |
| thur | and never kept the easily searchable Word documents | 20:22 |
| thur | yes exactly | 20:23 |
| thur | should i give djvu a shot? | 20:23 |
| fenn | you won't be able to search over that though | 20:23 |
| thur | ah | 20:23 |
| fenn | djvu actually stores some ocr-like metadata | 20:23 |
| fenn | so you can search it | 20:23 |
| thur | yaeh i've been able to OCR all the 600+ contracts using adobe acrobat pro | 20:23 |
| fenn | but if you do copy/paste sometimes you'll get weird crap | 20:23 |
| thur | but it's not as accurate as i need because of varying quality | 20:24 |
| thur | in the scans | 20:24 |
| fenn | i dont think anybody's made a 100% accurate OCR implementation | 20:24 |
| thur | yeah | 20:25 |
| fenn | currently google is farming out their low-confidence words to recaptcha | 20:25 |
| thur | figures | 20:25 |
| thur | wish i could do the same | 20:25 |
| fenn | you can, just set up a porn site and make people solve captchas | 20:25 |
| fenn | or the boring way (amazon turk) | 20:26 |
| thur | i like the first idea | 20:26 |
| fenn | yeah i got the idea from an evil AI that was pretending to be a hottie | 20:26 |
| fenn | sth like that | 20:26 |
| thur | so no recommendations on just straight image matching? | 20:26 |
| thur | hahaha | 20:26 |
| thur | it's a great idea though | 20:27 |
| thur | you should just take credit for it | 20:27 |
| genehacker | oh I see real papers | 20:27 |
| fenn | i'm not a super expert at image recognition, i need to learn more about it. might want to try #machinelearning | 20:28 |
| thur | yeah unfortunately | 20:28 |
| fenn | my current obsession is how to leverage video ASIC to find motion/optic flow and derive 3d coordinates from that | 20:31 |
| fenn | modern video compression like x264 does useful stuff to the data | 20:31 |
| genehacker | sounds neat | 20:33 |
| genehacker | much better than the current approach used in machine vision | 20:33 |
| genehacker | which uses lasers or lidar | 20:33 |
| fenn | blegh i actually have to learn all this crap | 20:34 |
| * fenn hides from reality | 20:34 | |
| fenn | starting at omnivision tomorrow | 20:34 |
| fenn | 9 am, means i have to be up by 6:30 | 20:36 |
| fenn | nooooo | 20:36 |
| fenn | damn there's gotta be a better way to do this | 20:36 |
| fenn | sweet, bike + train + light rail is faster, cheaper, and most importantly has no buses | 20:42 |
| fenn | it's unfortunate google doesn't know how to do bike and public transit in the same trip | 20:42 |
| thur | you gotta teach em fenn | 20:44 |
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| ybit | ping <-> pong | 22:01 |
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| cluckj | yikes, I am so tired | 22:25 |
| ybit | drazak, fenn, genehacker, kanzure: what's the famous story of some guy in cali sequencing his daughter's genome? | 22:46 |
| ybit | Hugh Reinhoff | 22:49 |
| ybit | thank you internets | 22:49 |
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| AJollyLife | hi | 23:01 |
| splicer | hi | 23:01 |
| AJollyLife | hows it going? | 23:01 |
| splicer | asking me? | 23:01 |
| AJollyLife | yep | 23:02 |
| splicer | fine but at work | 23:02 |
| AJollyLife | what time zone are you in? | 23:03 |
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