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| kanzure | hm jon lebkowsky was an extropian? no wonder i keep bumping into him | 00:03 |
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| kanzure | pmetzger appears disproprotionately often in the authors list | 00:12 |
| jrayhawk | he was young and needed the street cred | 00:13 |
| Utopiah | (makes me think of "From researcher in the lab to blond in the highschool playground, why popularity contests matter.") | 00:15 |
| kanzure | wtf | 00:21 |
| kanzure | i refuse to believe ESR was an extropian | 00:21 |
| kanzure | well, actually, i don't refuse it | 00:21 |
| kanzure | but it's fairly shocking :P | 00:21 |
| kanzure | Inigo Montoya <inigo@u.washington.edu> hmm.. | 00:24 |
| kanzure | hrm why do i know sublime.org .. | 00:33 |
| kanzure | buh? "Michael Baum (NIST Public Affairs)" <BAUM@micf.nist.gov> | 00:34 |
| kanzure | aroo? Carl Feynman <carlf@media.mit.edu> | 00:35 |
| kanzure | Steve Jackson <sjackson@tic.com>, Stanton McCandlish <mech@eff.org>, | 00:37 |
| JayDugger | ESR an extropian, shocking? | 00:52 |
| JayDugger | Okay--remember there might not have been very many other places for libertarian futurists at that time. | 00:52 |
| JayDugger | Or transhumanists of any kind, for that matter. | 00:53 |
| JayDugger | Depending on when in the archive you look, the terms might have signified different things than now. | 00:53 |
| kanzure | "But the consequences will be radical -- the era of mass production will grind to dust on a million back-yard manufacturing systems." | 00:56 |
| kanzure | that was charlie stross in 1993 | 00:56 |
| kanzure | >Biocyte has opened the first umbilical cord stem cell cryonic storage facility | 00:57 |
| kanzure | >ever. That means that parents can store their newborn's basic cells | 00:58 |
| kanzure | >(harvested from the umbilical cord) for future use for bone marrow | 00:58 |
| kanzure | >replenishment and gene therapy. The new generation can now remake themselves | 00:58 |
| kanzure | >in a way the rest of us can not. Regeneration of all their parts... | 00:58 |
| kanzure | http://www.biocytepharma.com/ | 00:58 |
| kanzure | hm i don't think that's it | 00:59 |
| kanzure | ah here we go: http://web.archive.org/web/20030605061629/http://pharmastem.com/ | 00:59 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: what was the "open software foundation" ? | 01:01 |
| kanzure | michel bauwens on "the emergence of open design and open manufacturing" http://bit.ly/9q9Xdm | 01:11 |
| kanzure | self-reproducing molecular-scale machines http://www.nan7ote7chs.tk/lillipution-uploads-sci-nanotech-submission | 01:17 |
| kanzure | technological self-transformation: expanding personal extropy http://www.maxmore.com/selftrns.htm (the article i was quoting from earlier appears to be online as well) | 01:18 |
| jrayhawk | They're the precurser to The Open Group, who defined most of POSIX | 01:19 |
| jrayhawk | ha ha TOG is partially responsible for the LSB, too, which has been a disaster | 01:23 |
| kanzure | "Indeed, a nice example are the miniature C. Elegans nematodes used by many molecular geneticists. They were deliberately evolved by Sidney Brenner, because their ancestors were too large to fit on a single slide for his electron microscope." | 01:35 |
| kanzure | (that was marvin minsky) | 01:35 |
| kanzure | Q: What algorithm did Intel use in the Pentium's floating point divider? | 01:40 |
| kanzure | A: "Life is like a box of chocolates." (Source: F. Gump of Intel) | 01:40 |
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| thesnark | Hello all | 06:15 |
| JayDugger | Good morning. | 06:15 |
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| JayDugger | I finally found a practical use for a home 3d printer: making cascade hangers. | 07:32 |
| JayDugger | http://www.asseenontvguys.com/productimages/as_seen_on_tv_guys/hanger-cascader.jpg | 07:32 |
| JayDugger | I feel nonplussed. A fantastic gadget, a marvelous tool, and the first good use for it I've found has such quotidian and mundane character. | 07:33 |
| JayDugger | Anyone read the new Stross novel, "The Fuller Memorandum?" | 07:39 |
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| QuantumG | sounds familiar | 08:00 |
| kanzure | sketch "anti-aging" stem cell clinic: http://www.ascaac.com/index_eng.html | 08:09 |
| kanzure | "Use of condensed pyrimidine derivatives for the treatment of autoimmune and inflammatory diseases" | 08:09 |
| * drazak graduates in 3 hours | 08:09 | |
| drazak | kanzure: are those the people that inject autologous fat cells? | 08:10 |
| kanzure | hmm... http://www.webdesign-jobs.com/iphone-developer-needed-for-capital-factory-funded-startup-austin/ | 08:10 |
| kanzure | "ipad dev experience" gah | 08:10 |
| JayDugger | drazak: Congratulations! | 08:11 |
| drazak | I may or may not be getting an ipad | 08:11 |
| drazak | kanzure: those stem cells have been found to create changes smaller than a t valume of .05, it's nearly inisifnificant | 08:12 |
| * drazak may have done the t value thing backwards | 08:12 | |
| drazak | whatever it is, it's been found to be medically insignificant | 08:12 |
| kanzure | http://topnews.us/content/222938-personalized-medicine-development-lags-behind-human-genome-sequencing | 08:12 |
| kanzure | drazak: that's why it's sketch ;) | 08:12 |
| kanzure | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/26/opinion/lweb26genome.html "The Genome Project: Patience Needed for a Payoff" "awaiting the genome payoff" | 08:13 |
| kanzure | "Healthcare develops personal touch" http://jacksonville.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2010/06/28/story2.html | 08:13 |
| drazak | kanzure: mesenchymal stem cells would work way better, but it's painful to have bone marrow taken :P | 08:13 |
| kanzure | "Illumina Maps Full Genetic Makeup For Sub-$10K" http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/538624/201006252348/Illumina-Maps-Full-Genetic-Makeup-For-Sub-10K-.aspx | 08:13 |
| kanzure | "Caliper Owners Group Meeting Showcases Critical Role of Biopharma and Academic ..." <--- what? | 08:13 |
| kanzure | do you just need calipers to join? | 08:13 |
| kanzure | http://industry.bnet.com/pharma/10008720/partying-like-its-1999-why-big-pharmas-latest-me-too-drug-launches-are-doomed/ | 08:14 |
| kanzure | http://www.bodyfatestimator.com/13575/another-chance-to-chew-the-fat-over-personalized-medicine/ | 08:14 |
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| kanzure | personalized medicine in the genomic-era: http://www.scientificamerican.com/report.cfm?id=personalized-medicine | 08:15 |
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| kanzure | hm i've never heard of 'DNA Direct' http://pharmexec.findpharma.com/pharmexec/Strategy/Riding-the-Wave/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/674795?contextCategoryId=43776 | 08:15 |
| kanzure | 'Pathway Genomics Insight Saliva Collection genetic testing kit' hard to swallow that | 08:16 |
| kanzure | "As mentioned, Medco recently purchased DNA Direct to form the Medco Personalized Medicine Program, which incorporates a variety of services geared to using genetic tests as a way to manage drug spending more efficiently among its client insurers and providers." | 08:16 |
| kanzure | "CVS Caremark has increased its investment in and partnered with Generation Health, a company billing itself as a genetic benefit management company (GBM), focused on assuring optimal utilization of genetic testing." | 08:16 |
| kanzure | "genetic benefit management company" hrm | 08:17 |
| JayDugger | That reminds me to check on 23andMe's results. | 08:17 |
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| kanzure | i can't figure out what these guys actually /do/ http://www.mygenhealth.com/ | 08:27 |
| JayDugger | Part fools from their money? | 08:27 |
| drazak | JayDugger: thanks, by te way | 08:28 |
| JayDugger | Time to run errands before the sun rises higher. | 08:36 |
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| kanzure | fenn: how were the python seminars yesterday? | 09:06 |
| kanzure | fenn: based on my presentations in the past, any suggestions for my scipy2010 presentations this wednesday? | 09:06 |
| kanzure | i.e. major differences that i should attempt | 09:06 |
| kanzure | should i do a demo? etc. | 09:06 |
| kanzure | i'm surprised anne wojcicki is not as high profile as craig venter | 09:13 |
| kanzure | she has more billions and is doing more consumer-targetted stuff | 09:13 |
| kanzure | 23andme paper http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pgen.1000993 | 09:13 |
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| lepton | I've got motion on the CNC with EMC2! Woohoo! | 09:35 |
| Utopiah | if you have resources justifiying open source, open tech, FOSS, etc... and criticizing locked-in effect, commercial practices, etc... for creative work in particular please flood me in PM | 09:57 |
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| Yocttar | Utopiah: think of Utopiah.. | 10:16 |
| Utopiah | o_0 | 10:19 |
| kanzure | .. | 10:19 |
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| pmetzger | afternoon... | 12:05 |
| kanzure | pmetzger: you are represented disproportionately often in the extropians mailing list archive | 12:31 |
| pmetzger | the archive isn't supposed to be public. but I'm not surprised. | 12:35 |
| pmetzger | (in fact, there was a big agreement that it not be public) | 12:35 |
| pmetzger | I was pretty loud. :) | 12:36 |
| kanzure | i think i accidentally acquired it | 12:37 |
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| pmetzger | gah. the debian lenny installer takes forever to ext3ify a 1T partition. | 13:15 |
| pmetzger | I bet they didn't turn off metadata journaling for the duration of the create. | 13:15 |
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| kanzure | various open source hardware biz talks at HOPE http://thenexthope.org/2010/06/45-talks-that-will-be-at-the-next-hope-still-not-half-the-total/ | 13:57 |
| kanzure | meh: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/peyer/hello-world-modern-biotechnology-for-high-schools | 13:57 |
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| kanzure | japanese demonstrating how to hold a cell phone: http://photos-451.friendster.com/e1/photos/15/48/18428451/1_246234319l.jpg | 14:27 |
| kanzure | fenn will like that. | 14:27 |
| kanzure | "Yes, that was me. I think Perry Metzger <perry@piermont.com> and/or | 14:59 |
| kanzure | Michael Vassar <michael.vassar@gmail.com> would like to have a copy of | 14:59 |
| kanzure | the extropians mailing list archive. " | 14:59 |
| kanzure | apparently the 'phil goetz' hanging out on diybio is the same phil goetz i saw in the archives | 14:59 |
| kanzure | hi diques | 15:03 |
| kanzure | oh you're probably jcluck | 15:04 |
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| diques | nick cluckj | 15:35 |
| diques | oops | 15:35 |
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| fenn | hmm intereresting "As of 2010, the film adaptation of Battle Angel is currently in pre-production[4] with director James Cameron." | 16:44 |
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| fenn | http://www.credoaction.com/comics/2010/06/environmental-crisis-on-planet-glox/ | 17:12 |
| fenn | gratz lepton, now what? | 17:13 |
| kanzure | "NanoSpire provides the first machine tool capable of cutting, drilling, welding, hammering, and annealing materials only a few nanometers in size by harnessing cavitation microjets." | 17:14 |
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| kanzure | ha ha | 17:36 |
| kanzure | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1040581998/biocurious-a-hackerspace-for-biotech-the-community | 17:36 |
| kanzure | $750 of $30k pledged | 17:36 |
| kanzure | "OpenPCR (your choice of kit or machine fully-assembled) + private instruction from its creators, Tito Jankowski and Josh Perfetto (video chat for non-locals) | 17:38 |
| kanzure | " | 17:38 |
| kanzure | what the fuck | 17:38 |
| kanzure | uh, for $1k? | 17:38 |
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| fenn | kanzure: demos are always nice, from the audience's perspective | 18:12 |
| fenn | i think the best presentation was the realtime sage demo, but the guy (will stein) really knew his shit | 18:12 |
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| kanzure | i should go on to kickstarter and ask for $100k just for the hell of it | 19:22 |
| kanzure | "look at me! i can toot my own horn" | 19:22 |
| kanzure | it's horn, right? | 19:22 |
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| ybit | why did they want the extropian mailing list to be private? | 22:42 |
| ybit | so these people can maintain their appearance to the average joe? | 22:43 |
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| ybit | their not terribly insane appearance* | 22:44 |
| ybit | drazak: congrats good sir | 22:44 |
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