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kanzure | uhuh | 05:53 |
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jrayhawk | The new kernel did something dumb and horrible to the filesystem. I'm hoping it's not particularly severe. | 05:58 |
jrayhawk | We're back on the old kernel now. | 05:58 |
jrayhawk | Man, I was really hoping to get sleep tonight. | 05:58 |
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jrayhawk | Anyway, I got go-ahead to order a new, not-embarassingly-horrible-hand-me-down server, so the issues *are* being worked on | 06:00 |
jrayhawk | assuming i manage to wake up during HP sales hours tomorrow | 06:00 |
kanzure | okay, sounds like a problem you're aware of at least | 06:05 |
jrayhawk | Yes, it's hard to miss over a dozen text messages saying how badly everything is broken. | 06:06 |
kanzure | i swear i didn't mean to send any of those. i was sleeping.. | 06:06 |
jrayhawk | So it was YOU | 06:06 |
kanzure | uh, well, i should check my phone first | 06:06 |
kanzure | are you "stereotypical facebook chick" messaging me at 3am? | 06:07 |
jrayhawk | THIS INTERVIEW IS OVER | 06:07 |
kanzure | hired! | 06:07 |
jrayhawk | oh god not more work | 06:07 |
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jrayhawk | good lord haskell sequence's database didn't even shit itself this time | 06:09 |
jrayhawk | it's a christmas miracle | 06:10 |
jrayhawk | anywho, time to drive home and hope i sleep through the next dozen text messages | 06:11 |
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SeH_ | http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread593745/pg1 Welcome to the Unpossible Future... The AGI Manhattan Project | 06:17 |
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kanzure | fenn: check your inbox | 06:57 |
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kanzure | wow what's with all the comments on this chumby blog post? http://chumby.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/chumbys-insiders-launch/ | 07:16 |
bdesk | kanzure: they are emotionally attached to it like a companion cube. | 07:26 |
kanzure | uh.. why? | 07:34 |
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bdesk | because it has a face (the small screen) and it is small and cute and fuzzy. | 07:35 |
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bdesk | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2414/2289527284_98b7cac964.jpg | 07:35 |
bdesk | it is like a pet. | 07:35 |
JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 07:36 |
bdesk | "I put "ready" here in quotes because Chumby will just keep improving, it's never "feature complete" -- enhancements will get sent to your chumby automatically over-the-air and we'll also keep improving the Chumby web site as we go. Even after you buy a chumby you can rest assured knowing that we and a community of hackers and "Friends of Chumby" will be working to constantly improve it, add capabilities, create new content, new a | 07:38 |
bdesk | "Your chumby will be even better the year after you buy it -- and how many consumer electronic products can make that claim?" | 07:38 |
bdesk | Tell me that this is not trying to be a pet. | 07:38 |
drazak | kanzure: just read snow crash | 07:40 |
bdesk | if you say that it is somehow technically flawed, this has the same effect on its supporters as telling someone that their pet is ugly. | 07:40 |
kanzure | bdesk: do you know someone with a chumby? | 07:40 |
bdesk | no | 07:41 |
bdesk | i'd never heard of it until you posted the link. | 07:41 |
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AJollyLife | kanzure: i know a guy with a chumby | 10:24 |
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pmetzger | HOPE starts tomorrow in NYC... | 11:00 |
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kanzure | so pink army stuff has been happening over email | 14:03 |
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kanzure | and the board / advisors are introducing each other | 14:03 |
kanzure | and they are all media/PR/advertizing/television folks | 14:03 |
kanzure | except maybe david orban, but i dunno | 14:04 |
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fenn | ooer.. "they pay me $2k/day to look at potential problems and point out pitfalls." | 16:18 |
fenn | thanks for sending me that | 16:21 |
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kanzure | fenn: :) | 16:29 |
kanzure | it's kind of crazy, really | 16:31 |
kanzure | crowdsourcing and open source stuff in the middle of warzones | 16:31 |
kanzure | "potential problem: you could get shot" | 16:31 |
kanzure | cha-ching | 16:32 |
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fenn | seems to always be a problem in warzones, regardless whether it's open source or not | 16:37 |
kanzure | "oh but isn't there a fix for that in web 2.0?" "no" | 16:38 |
kanzure | (cha-ching) | 16:38 |
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fenn | web 2.0 is all javascript and css, no need for a land war in asia | 16:40 |
kanzure | jquery is impressive and makes web 2.0 worth knowing about. | 16:40 |
* bkero is busy making web 3.0 motherfucker. | 16:40 | |
* fenn gives in and buys a flickr pro account | 16:40 | |
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JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 17:11 |
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genehacker | kanzure how do I make a loop where a variable increases or changes in value? | 17:16 |
kanzure | uh what language | 17:22 |
kanzure | usually it's just something like some_val=5;some_val++ or something | 17:22 |
kanzure | except with spaces. gah | 17:23 |
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fenn | how do i shot web 2.0 | 17:32 |
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genehacker | openscad | 17:41 |
genehacker | I tried a for loop and it didn't work | 17:41 |
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JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 18:22 |
genehacker | QuantumG did you read the new NASA senate bill? | 18:33 |
genehacker | they're trying to bring back manned spaceflight | 18:34 |
QuantumG | yeah, the White House was trying to make a nice apple pie and Congress insists they put a big piece of pork in it. | 18:34 |
genehacker | just what I thought | 18:37 |
genehacker | well they brought back a heavy lifter | 18:37 |
genehacker | made of legacy shuttle parts no doubt | 18:38 |
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QuantumG | yep, restacked 70s tech | 18:38 |
genehacker | I certainly hope this doesn't affect the Europa mission | 18:39 |
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genehacker | it'd be a shame for them to not send a ice penetrator and submarine along | 18:40 |
genehacker | can anything good come of this? | 18:42 |
QuantumG | sure, the Nelson rocket is supposed to take 6 years to build.. in that time commercial crew could start | 18:42 |
QuantumG | and NASA could do what they always do, slip the schedule | 18:43 |
genehacker | slip the schedule? | 18:43 |
QuantumG | and hey, maybe the Nelson rocket will get canceled and NASA will be prohibited from ever try to make another rocket again | 18:43 |
QuantumG | that'd be great | 18:43 |
genehacker | sarcastic great? | 18:44 |
QuantumG | no, great | 18:44 |
JayDugger | Shuttle-C made plenty of sense, once upon a time. | 18:44 |
QuantumG | NASA oversight of cost-plus contracts is just a great way to spend money, not make rockets | 18:44 |
genehacker | but still doesn't NASA need a heavy lift vehicle to put a fuel depot? | 18:45 |
JayDugger | NASA probably would. | 18:45 |
JayDugger | I don't know if anyone else would. ;) | 18:45 |
genehacker | and I don't think SpaceX has any heavy lift rockets | 18:46 |
QuantumG | yeah, the fuel depot Flagship Technology Demonstration program will most likely be just lifted on a Delta IV or an Atlas V .. | 18:46 |
JayDugger | Will NASA end up building a fuel depot? | 18:46 |
QuantumG | as is everything else at NASA that doesn't have people on it | 18:46 |
genehacker | so could they still get to the moon with spaceX's rockets | 18:47 |
JayDugger | QuantumG, will that demonstrator store cryogenic fuels? | 18:47 |
QuantumG | yes | 18:48 |
QuantumG | http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/458814main_FTD_CRYOGENICPropellantSTorageAndTransferMission.pdf | 18:49 |
JayDugger | Thanks. | 18:49 |
JayDugger | Do you know if that demonstrator has any funding in the Senate bill? | 18:50 |
JayDugger | Heck, I guess I should look that up myself. | 18:50 |
QuantumG | there's enough money in the tech funding to cover all the flagship technology demonstrations and some other lesser priority research | 18:51 |
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JayDugger | Section-by-Section | 18:52 |
JayDugger | NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION AUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2010 | 18:52 |
JayDugger | http://commerce.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=50faad79-f79d-4531-9f69-cf646b2b96ba | 18:52 |
QuantumG | I don't think the numbers have been released | 18:53 |
QuantumG | and they're likely to change when it goes through appropriation anyway | 18:53 |
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JayDugger | genehacker, Yes, heavy-lift "shall utilize existing contracts, workforce, capabilities, etc. from the Shuttle and former Orion and Aries [sic] I projects, and should minimize the modification and development of ground infrastructure." | 18:55 |
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JayDugger | Hmm...NASA & DoE "will pursue restarting and sustaining domestic radioisotope thermoelectric generator material production to power deep space satellite, robotic and other science missions." | 18:56 |
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QuantumG | so, are you guys aware of Spacevidcast? | 18:58 |
genehacker | no | 18:58 |
QuantumG | Dennis Wingo is on today | 18:58 |
genehacker | where is it? | 18:59 |
QuantumG | www.spacevidcast.com | 18:59 |
genehacker | I might catch it later | 18:59 |
QuantumG | it starts in a few minutes | 18:59 |
QuantumG | .. and if you don't know who Dennis Wingo is.. let's just say he's freakin' awesome | 18:59 |
bdesk | wingo is almost as apropos as shuttleworth | 19:00 |
JayDugger | author of Moonrush? | 19:00 |
genehacker | Macdonalds Moon tapes man? | 19:00 |
QuantumG | yup | 19:01 |
JayDugger | Macdonalds Moon tapes? | 19:01 |
QuantumG | he managed to get some old Apollo tapes, and the ancient hardware needed to read them, and setup in an old McDonalds to read 'em. | 19:02 |
genehacker | right outside of that big blimp hangar | 19:02 |
JayDugger | Hangar 19 at Moffett? | 19:03 |
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JayDugger | Good night, everyone. | 19:34 |
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fenn | read the backlog... speaking of moon tapes, this is about ten feet to my left: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fennfoot/4798541628/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/fennfoot/4797910409/in/photostream/ | 22:27 |
fenn | omg these cheesecake cupcakes are so messy | 22:27 |
Alystair | :O | 22:41 |
Alystair | CHEESECAKE CUPCAKES | 22:41 |
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