2010-07-30.log

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JayDuggerGood morning, everyone.06:58
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l-fyehlo07:14
JayDuggerGood morning, everyone.07:14
l-fymorning07:14
l-fywhat it's hplus all about?07:14
JayDuggerI apologize for an answer that boils down to RTFM, but I have errands to run--forgive me.07:15
JayDuggerDid you watch the videos at the links in channel greeting?07:15
l-fyJayDugger: as stupid as it sounds i have no idea where to start on07:15
l-fyno, since gstream it's stupid enough to play a flash07:15
JayDuggerNo worries, everyone begins in ignorance.07:15
l-fyi have gnash and gstream07:15
JayDuggerAh...07:16
l-fyso a website will be nice for rtfm :)07:16
JayDuggersince the videos are off line, let me check the links at hand.07:16
JayDuggerbrb07:16
* l-fy it's a small, scared blonde in a big big world07:16
JayDuggerhttp://gnusha.org/07:17
JayDuggerhttp://delicious.com/jay.dugger/hplus07:19
UtopiahJayDugger: do you backup your delicious data?07:19
l-fyi got here because i'm looking for Bryan Bishop07:21
l-fyhey Utopiah 07:21
l-fyhow are you?07:21
Utopiahwelcome l-fy , how are you and what are you doing in this weird channel? ;)07:21
JayDuggerhttp://fabien.benetou.fr/07:22
l-fytrying to figure out what it's all about07:22
Utopiah(I hope it's not my secret stalker)07:22
JayDuggerhttp://superkuh.ath.cx/07:22
l-fybut you know that i'm slow07:22
JayDuggerNo worries.07:22
Utopiahl-fy: H+ is being yourself, just a better version.07:23
Utopiah(and helping others to do so too)07:23
JayDuggerHere at slideshare.net you can find many of slides from a recent conference, l-fy.07:24
JayDuggerhttp://www.slideshare.net/humanityplus07:24
JayDuggerAnd now, back to sorting clothes for Goodwill.07:25
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l-fyanything to do with the h+ magasine?07:45
Utopiahon the topic yes, as official links, no07:45
l-fya right07:45
l-fystupid people07:46
l-fythey don't understand that god it's in all07:46
Utopiah?07:46
l-fy</end of irony>07:46
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Utopiahtbh Im not a fan of god jokes07:47
Utopiahit's begging for misunderstanding07:47
drazakah fuck god08:14
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UtopiahOSS2010 stream up again, no pannel up yet09:30
Utopiahhttp://fora.tv/live/open_science/open_science_summit_201009:30
UtopiahJayDugger: https://secure.delicious.com/settings/bookmarks/export09:38
Utopiah(and it nows include tags and notes)09:38
kanzurehuh? the stream is up?09:40
kanzurei guess i should head over there09:40
Utopiahit's starting now09:41
kanzureyeah but it's just drew endy ors omething09:42
Utopiahjoseph jackson09:44
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Utopiahkanzure: out of curiosity, ~how many person are in the room?11:33
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fennyo from open science summit12:04
Utopiahhi fenn 12:05
Utopiah ~how many person are in the room?12:06
drazakpeople?12:09
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fenni'd guess ~12012:17
fennkanzure are you transcribing? :P12:21
Utopiahthanks12:24
Utopiahhe was yesterday then had a break, today, no idea12:24
Utopiahhttp://gnusha.org/open-science-summit-2010-transcript.html12:25
fenni hear loud bleeping noises coming from his laptop12:28
kanzurefenn: no, i've been having laptop troubles12:28
kanzureyeah :(12:28
kanzurehow the hell do i stop this12:28
kanzuresetterm -blength 0 and xset b 0 doesn't stop it12:28
kanzureon a related note, my xorg.conf is incompatible with 2.6.32?12:29
fennin the bios i guess12:29
fennit's on startup right?12:29
fenneh well, the current talks are kinda lame12:30
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UtopiahI like IP questions12:30
kanzurei would like the references to where all these quotes are coming from12:30
kanzurethat would be mildly useful12:30
* fenn mumbles something about getting a screen session somewhere12:35
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fennmeh ok that works12:36
kanzurehrm12:36
kanzurehow about gnusha.org12:36
kanzureshould i be doing transcripts?12:36
fennisnt that your schtick?12:37
kanzureonce you stop you realize how nice it is to not constantly be typing12:37
drazakconstantly fyping?12:38
drazakfucking home keys12:38
drazakconstantly typing? I wouldn't notice unless there was a sound12:39
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fennwhat's the current speaker?12:41
kanzuredrazak: "i wouldn't notice unless there was a sound" uh?12:41
kanzurefenn: misha12:41
kanzuremisha angrist12:41
drazakkanzure: typing, I barely notice I'm doing it12:41
kanzuredrazak: i kind of doubt you go for 15,000 word sprints12:42
fennderr, i should have known that12:42
kanzurehttp://opensciencesummit.com/schedule/12:42
fennyeah i have that open12:42
drazakkanzure: depends on the day12:42
* fenn hunts for some food12:42
drazakI've been known to type for 3 or 4 hours straight12:42
kanzurefenn: there's good sandwhiches in the back12:43
kanzureoh there you are12:43
drazakhaha12:44
kanzurehttp://oss2010.backchan.nl/meetings/view/20712:50
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kanzuretaxpayeraccess.org13:04
kanzurehttp://taxpayeraccess.org/13:04
kanzurefenn will you watch my laptop?13:11
* superkuh sent a message to his representative.13:18
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kanzureit's weird when the FBI special agent says "oh you're THE bryan bishop"13:37
drazakand why are they talking to THE bryan bishop?13:43
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fennhaha14:22
fenni didnt realize ed you was actually a scientist14:22
fennor was 10 years ago at least14:22
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fenntalked to jacob schiach in the hallway, he seemed a little lost14:23
kanzuremichael nielsen's talk: http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/michael-nielsen-reinventing-discovery.html14:32
kanzurefenn: have you heard how mac pronounces jacob's name? he pronounces it as "sheeyah!" (with the exclamation point)14:33
fenndoes he do a kung-fu kick?14:34
kanzureyes but it's so fast you can't see it14:35
kanzureat least with human eyes14:35
kanzurealso, wtf is michael vassar talking about?14:35
fennnfc14:36
kanzurei talked with him at singularity summit 2009 about innovation and frankly he just seemed incompetent14:36
kanzurewhat just happened?14:37
fennhe fubared14:37
kanzurei talked with jorge hirsch earlier.. kind guy14:37
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kanzuremichael nielsen is writing an "open source science" manifesto? hrm14:51
jrayhawkSteve would be in a better position to answer questions about Michael Vassar than anyone in here, FWIW.14:56
Utopiah(I precisely just missed the 2 pannels I wanted to see... damn guests, hope the recordings will really  be available and soon)14:56
kanzureUtopiah: in most cases i've found that the recordings do not become available15:13
kanzurewhere's the damn hplus-summit-2010 videos15:14
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Utopiahkanzure: (naive comment) but they promised it! 15:14
superkuhIt would be funny if the 'Open' summit itself was not open.15:16
kanzureshould i do a transcript of the microfunding stuff?15:18
kanzuresuperkuh: there's a fee to attend, but honestly people can just walk in15:18
superkuhAnd there is the free streaming. I suppose a prepared individual could rip this. Regardless, there is so much talk about making explicit efforts to make information available that I still see irony.15:20
kanzurei wonder what codec it's being streamed with15:21
Utopiahsuperkuh: efforts to make information available are countered by platforms trying to capture value (a la Google, Apple, RealNetwork, etc)15:21
Utopiah(and in science Nature, Science, Elsevier, Springer)15:22
kanzurehey is tom from backyard brains here?15:22
* kanzure is looking over http://www.mendeley.com/oapi/methods/15:23
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fenn"is tom from backyard brains here?" no, and his name's tim15:25
fennat least i havent seen him15:25
kanzuretim15:26
kanzures/tom/tim/ you saw nothing15:26
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kanzurehi genehacker 15:26
genehackerhello15:27
genehackerdesignfiles is down15:27
fenn"we're funding them but we're not actually funding them"15:27
genehackeror is it?15:28
genehackerhmmm15:28
fenngenehacker: there's a big shitstorm over a dmca takedown request, the university confiscated the computer15:28
genehackerfuck I was just about to make that joke15:28
fennkanzure: is there a free spot over there to plug in?15:29
genehackerthey're shutting them down because they're shutting down the power to the whole building15:29
kanzureyes but i'd have to point at it15:29
genehackerwas there really a DMCA take down request?15:29
kanzureyes15:30
genehackerwhen?15:30
genehackerby whom?15:30
kanzuretwo days ago15:30
kanzureby vincent gingery15:30
genehackerand why do they have to shut down the power to the whole building to remove those servers15:31
Utopiah(recordings should really  become available somehow someday https://twitter.com/OpenScience2010/status/19941734574 )15:31
genehackershoot hope gingery doesn't sue you15:32
kanzure" OrthoNormalRuss15:45
kanzure  15:45
kanzure#sciflies interface modeled on dating service logic? Ratings, eh? Which service as model, Hot or Not? "Autism symptomology: HOT!" #oss2010 "15:45
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kanzurei'm not able to hear any of this16:07
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kanzuremicrofinancing Q&A http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/microfinancing-questions.html16:15
kanzurealthough i can't hear much16:15
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nshkanzure, what happen?16:28
nshsomeone set us up the copybomb?16:28
nshmain explain go on!16:28
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kanzurejason bobe: http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/jason-bobe.html16:52
kanzuremydaughtersgenome.com http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/mydaughtersgenome.html16:53
kanzuremac cowell: http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/mac-cowell.html16:53
Utopiahwhat's the point of doing a talk if it's to display a Vimeo video... boring16:54
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kanzurei'm kind of disappointed16:59
kanzurethese presentations on diybio are pretty poor16:59
kanzuremeredith is reading from http://maradydd.livejournal.com/496085.html16:59
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kanzureray mccaulley: http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/raymond-mccauley.html17:12
kanzure"a web app for connecting wealthy patrons with cool projects" .. sounds like sugar daddy dating17:13
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Utopiah"17:17 techblob : wtg kanzure - good work! haha"17:17
jk4930kanzure: could we use jailbaits for getting patrons to finance important stuff? ;)17:22
fenni wanted to ask her to elaborate on 'we reject the precautionary principle'17:32
fennbut q&a ran out of time17:32
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fennwhat is BIOFAB?17:35
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kanzurefenn: BIOFAB is drew endy's gig18:18
kanzurediybio Q&A session http://bit.ly/9OCKor18:20
kanzureer wait18:20
kanzureyeah that's it18:20
kanzurechristine peterson on biosecurity http://bit.ly/9m2iPv18:20
kanzureed you (fbi) http://bit.ly/9GaSoR18:20
kanzurelen sassaman http://bit.ly/cPMx0h18:20
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fennsome twit tweet this plz http://www.flickr.com/photos/fennfoot/sets/72157624494534741/18:42
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fennso i was kinda bored at open science summit, don't think i'll be going there tomorrow23:49
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JayDuggerFair enoug.23:54
JayDuggerFair enough.23:54
JayDuggerYou can best judge the good use of your own time.23:54
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