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| Utopiah | hmmm was scifoo stream? | 01:37 |
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| JayDugger | On fora.tv, I think? | 01:38 |
| Utopiah | I can't find anythin | 01:41 |
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| Utopiah | (Killed by Code: Software Transparency in Implantable Medical Devices - Software Freedom Law Center http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2010/transparent-medical-devices.html Karen Sandler) | 03:45 |
| Utopiah | and OSCON2010 talk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcWlD2Y6HNM | 03:49 |
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| Utopiah | ( Medical Device Security Center http://www.secure-medicine.org/ A cross-disciplinary research initiative on medical device security, privacy, safety, and effectiveness ) | 04:28 |
| JayDugger | kanzure, have you checked Mozilla's Raindrop for overlap with 1kfriendly? | 05:06 |
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| phryk | Hi there | 06:48 |
| phryk | I have a question for you guys :3 | 06:48 |
| phryk | Would you like it if you were able to have gills? | 06:48 |
| JayDugger | And lungs too? | 06:49 |
| phryk | yes, both | 06:49 |
| JayDugger | What side effects? | 06:49 |
| phryk | Also: Would you go through gene-therapy to achieve this? | 06:49 |
| Utopiah | phryk: would people I value would dig it? | 06:49 |
| JayDugger | How much does it cost? | 06:49 |
| JayDugger | Do they work in salt water, fresh water, both? | 06:50 |
| phryk | No side effects, only that you have gills, they might be sensible and have to be protected from harsh contact. | 06:50 |
| phryk | JayDugger: Price: Somewhat affordable, but not something you can buy anyday | 06:50 |
| JayDugger | Do they drastically alter my appearance? | 06:50 |
| phryk | Somewhere near a new computer | 06:50 |
| phryk | no | 06:50 |
| phryk | just gills | 06:50 |
| JayDugger | Sure. | 06:50 |
| JayDugger | Cheaper than Lasik, and I had that done. | 06:51 |
| phryk | Maybe somewhere behind your ears, where you have them as embryo or under your breasts somewhere | 06:51 |
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| killall-9 | maybe some extra adaptation to be able to dive deep and see in water | 06:51 |
| phryk | Mhh, I thought about doing lasiks too when i can afford it^^ | 06:51 |
| JayDugger | Do it. | 06:51 |
| Utopiah | so if the environment does not change (mean... I live in a city on the ground) and my friends find it scary then no, even for free I wouldn't do that. | 06:51 |
| phryk | killall-9: at least some modification to the skin, so you don't get all wrinkly | 06:52 |
| phryk | JayDugger: Still to poor, am just out of that school-thingy that gives me the possibility to go to university | 06:52 |
| JayDugger | Why the question about gills? | 06:58 |
| phryk | Dunno | 06:58 |
| phryk | Well | 06:58 |
| phryk | I was cleaning dishes in my kitchen | 06:59 |
| phryk | I always tend to play around with the water, and I always dreamt of having gills ^^ | 06:59 |
| killall-9 | just walked out of AC room, feels like swimming in warm soup - so gills OK | 07:05 |
| phryk | ^^ | 07:07 |
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| jcluck | kanzure shit, I wish I were at that meeting with jason and y'all about the bioethics stuff D: | 10:42 |
| jcluck | is it alright if I use the transcript that you took? | 10:44 |
| jcluck | I've already read it, but I can keep it "confidential" in my writing if you want | 10:45 |
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| Einstat | kanzure | 13:04 |
| Einstat | you here | 13:04 |
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| 13:33 < kanzure> jcluck: tito made a comment about me taking the transcript during the meeting< kanzure> jcluck: tito made a comment about me taking the transcript during the meeting | 13:33 | |
| kanzure | jcluck: tito made a comment about me taking the transcript during the meeting | 13:33 |
| kanzure | and asked everyone if it was ok | 13:33 |
| kanzure | and they seemed to be ok with me taking the transcript | 13:33 |
| kanzure | i didn't ask about distributing though.. my guess is that it's okay | 13:34 |
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| kanzure | "open scientist" pledge thingy http://ideas.tinyhax.com/pledge | 13:37 |
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| fenn | what is "is it open? princples"? | 14:57 |
| kanzure | something for open access but applied to data | 15:05 |
| kanzure | http://www.isitopendata.org/ | 15:05 |
| kanzure | hrm it's a web app? | 15:05 |
| kanzure | i thought there was a "is it open" questionairre thing somewhere | 15:05 |
| fenn | ooo a form letter, pfbblttttt | 15:06 |
| kanzure | guess i'm not presenting meetlog.txt at QS | 15:06 |
| kanzure | next meetup is 2010-08-11 http://www.meetup.com/quantifiedself/ | 15:07 |
| kanzure | and gary is out of the office | 15:07 |
| kanzure | so, i spent the night over at raymond mccauley's house | 15:07 |
| kanzure | he was telling these stories about me and how i helped him out in the past O_o | 15:08 |
| kanzure | weird thing is that the other guy in the car was too.. but i've never met josé cordeiro | 15:09 |
| kanzure | weird thing is that the other guy in the car was too.. but i've never met josé cordeiro | 15:09 |
| kanzure | it turns out josé is a friend of miriam leis ("weak signals scanning task force" for the european parliament) | 15:10 |
| kanzure | it turns out josé is a friend of miriam leis ("weak signals scanning task force" for the european parliament) | 15:10 |
| kanzure | http://futurovenezuela.net/Cordeiro/ | 15:10 |
| jcluck | kanzure, okay | 15:16 |
| jcluck | if I use it, it won't be for a few months | 15:16 |
| kanzure | "use it" wut? | 15:17 |
| jcluck | the transcript | 15:17 |
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| kanzure | yes but what do you mean by use it :P | 15:17 |
| kanzure | anyway i posted a link to it on the diybio list | 15:17 |
| kanzure | so it's fair game now | 15:17 |
| jcluck | quote from it | 15:17 |
| jcluck | ah, cool | 15:17 |
| kanzure | you might want to ask me about the particular quotes though | 15:18 |
| jcluck | quote from it in publication or in public | 15:18 |
| jcluck | haha, k | 15:18 |
| kanzure | it's not.. exactly accurate in some places | 15:18 |
| kanzure | simply because of my inability to type quickly enough | 15:18 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_frm/thread/92d27777f7e12b92 | 15:18 |
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| jcluck | my advisor got all juiced up because he heard diy bio get a mention at the bioethics commission | 15:19 |
| kanzure | jcluck: check the link i just dropped | 15:19 |
| kanzure | in that email i linked over to the transcripts i took of the bioethics.gov streams | 15:19 |
| kanzure | and there's a handful of diybio mentions | 15:19 |
| jcluck | @_@ | 15:20 |
| jcluck | sweet | 15:20 |
| jcluck | thanks | 15:21 |
| kanzure | jcluck: see pm | 15:21 |
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| eridu | http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/07/a-wearable-computer/ | 15:46 |
| kanzure | wtf? http://sapiensanonym.blogspot.com/2010/08/things-i-do-for-biohacking-part-1.html | 16:01 |
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| kanzure | http://sapiensanonym.blogspot.com/2010/08/things-i-do-for-biohacking-part-2.html | 16:02 |
| kanzure | oh he's implanting a northpaw? | 16:04 |
| eridu | whoa | 16:07 |
| kanzure | "to my annoyance, i discovered weeks ago that i'd failed to observe this, and thus the nodes in my left two outermost fingers set each other off every now and then when i'm trying to sleep or type or what have you. another fuckup for general education." | 16:08 |
| splicer_ | kanzure: It still surprises me how you somehow find this stuff | 16:24 |
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| fenn | YOU'RE DOIN IT WRONG | 16:26 |
| kanzure | yeah i'm not sure his method is all that thoughtful | 16:27 |
| kanzure | http://sapiensanonym.blogspot.com/2010/03/im-retired-from-human-race.html | 16:27 |
| kanzure | http://sapiensanonym.blogspot.com/2010/03/faq.html | 16:27 |
| kanzure | although he does seem to have a lot of "motherfucking bleach" | 16:27 |
| kanzure | hey so what happened to adl.serveftp.org? | 16:29 |
| kanzure | fenn: did you get a chance a few days ago to hide/remove the sinister.com dump? | 16:29 |
| splicer_ | fenn: hehe | 16:30 |
| splicer_ | kanzure: Reading it and looking at the videos I think it actually may be a girl, there is a mention of a boyfriend somewhere. | 16:30 |
| kanzure | it's a genderbender | 16:31 |
| kanzure | "yeah, i'm bisexual and gender-fluid. my current partner, Muad-Dib, is a d00d." | 16:31 |
| splicer_ | ah | 16:32 |
| splicer_ | i'm thinking it wrong | 16:32 |
| kanzure | looks like hplusmagazine.com is going to go back on hiatus | 16:33 |
| kanzure | fenn: is there food around here? | 16:35 |
| fenn | for some value of food | 16:35 |
| kanzure | hacker dojo is larger than i expected | 16:36 |
| kanzure | and it's just people sitting around on laptops | 16:36 |
| kanzure | farting around about ruby | 16:36 |
| fenn | yeah :\ | 16:36 |
| fenn | davinci has been offline since when you left | 16:36 |
| kanzure | did you see the diygenomics talk the other day by raymond? the one about vitamin b9? | 16:37 |
| kanzure | no, it was back up temporarily | 16:37 |
| kanzure | http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/raymond-mccauley.html | 16:37 |
| fenn | yeah | 16:37 |
| fenn | (yeah i saw the talk) | 16:37 |
| kanzure | their vitamin target was clever but i am not sure how well that can scale for other vitamins or other interesting, testable things | 16:37 |
| fenn | "The following side effects have been reported: ...spontaneous production of breast milk, inability to achieve orgasm, seizures, loss of memory, loss of identity, unusual bleeding..." | 16:40 |
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| kanzure | fenn: context? | 16:41 |
| superkuh | Hm. Some sort of dopamine antagonist? | 16:41 |
| fenn | psychiatric medication | 16:41 |
| fenn | from that body mod blog | 16:41 |
| fenn | more from same "so i'm in my third academic year at University now, doing a Bsc Hons in Computing Science. understandably, it gets pretty hard - i'm chewing bitwise C operators right now, and to my shame i still don't exactly understand bitshifts" | 16:42 |
| kanzure | bit shifting is third year these days? | 16:43 |
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| fenn | i dont really get how you're supposed to implant a north paw.. don't the batteries run down? | 16:47 |
| kanzure | yes | 16:47 |
| kanzure | i was expecting to see some inductive coupling going on or something | 16:47 |
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| kanzure | "well, it works on lithiums right now, so i could leave them in there, have them transdermal, or i could get a gyro in there (my Plan A). it's gonna need some working out." | 16:49 |
| kanzure | which was from https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4667295582801858613&postID=6628875769398287520 | 16:49 |
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| kanzure | email: lepht@trioptimum.com | 16:50 |
| fenn | doesn't transdermal get infected like mad? | 16:50 |
| kanzure | yes | 16:51 |
| fenn | we just need to get some reindeer to act as donors | 16:51 |
| kanzure | although julian (joe's julian i mean) has claimed that transdermal wiring has gotten better to the point of not killing you | 16:51 |
| fenn | (antlers are transdermal and can be transplanted) | 16:51 |
| kanzure | however, i haven't read the literature on this | 16:51 |
| fenn | yeah i think this kind of thing needs to be done with a team, one "guinea pig" and the other who knows wtf they are doing | 16:52 |
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| fenn | maybe even 3 people, test subject, engineer, and doctor | 16:53 |
| fenn | so they are going to fish wires around underneath the skin or what? or is it just a magnet? | 16:54 |
| kanzure | what are you asking? | 16:55 |
| kanzure | lepht implanted some neodium disks before already | 16:55 |
| kanzure | and apparently uses glue ball thingies to fill in the space when he removes them in other surgical operations | 16:55 |
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| * fenn attempts to travel to mountain view | 16:56 | |
| kanzure | as for the chip implant plan i'm not sure | 16:56 |
| kanzure | i feel like such a tool browsing news.ycombinator.com while at hacker dojo | 16:59 |
| jrayhawk | Kanzure: if you put your transcripts in an ikiwiki, we can make formatting and typo corrections. | 17:07 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: okay i just committed and pushed 'em to diyhpluswiki | 17:15 |
| kanzure | huh but for some reason http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/andrew-hessel-pink-army.html doesn't work? | 17:16 |
| jrayhawk | Hmm. I wonder if I allow those to be published by default. | 17:18 |
| jrayhawk | I can just run 'em though an HTML-to-mdwn converter anyway, I suppose. | 17:19 |
| kanzure | what? are .html files for some reason not allowed to show up | 17:20 |
| kanzure | i guess the default would be an edit-only view | 17:20 |
| kanzure | and that's why it redirects to secure.diyhpl.us | 17:20 |
| kanzure | ok, got it | 17:20 |
| jrayhawk | Possibly. I was a bit conservative when I set up the Piny defaults. | 17:21 |
| jrayhawk | Since I am anticipating dealing with unwashed masses. | 17:21 |
| jrayhawk | And you're inheriting those defaults. | 17:21 |
| jrayhawk | I'll look into it. | 17:21 |
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| jrayhawk | I guess it wouldn't be conveniently editable in HTML form since nobody's implemented editing-attachments-as-text, so I may as well do the markdown conversion. | 17:23 |
| kanzure | okie dokie | 17:23 |
| kanzure | varPartnerNormal = GetFaceNormalAtMidCoEdge(swPartnerCoEdge) | 17:26 |
| kanzure | If VectorsAreEqual(varThisNormal, varPartnerNormal) Then | 17:26 |
| kanzure | oof.. solidworks :/ | 17:26 |
| jrayhawk | Oh yeah, Jules took out autoindexing. I guess that doesn't matter much. | 17:29 |
| jrayhawk | http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/ | 17:30 |
| kanzure | is there an html-to-mdwn tool | 17:31 |
| jrayhawk | html2markdown in debian | 17:32 |
| jrayhawk | I installed it on gnusha | 17:32 |
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| kanzure | ybit: do you know anthony di franco? | 18:21 |
| ybit | kanzure: no | 18:21 |
| kanzure | he's from the bay area time exchange | 18:22 |
| kanzure | http://sfbace.org/ | 18:22 |
| kanzure | oh look he's writing about marcin on that page | 18:22 |
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| ybit | so he's into a new of exchanging wealth as well | 18:25 |
| kanzure | alternative currencies and such | 18:26 |
| kanzure | he showed up at dinner last night after open science summit | 18:26 |
| ybit | what were the best talks? | 18:26 |
| ybit | it's been a crazy weekend for me | 18:26 |
| kanzure | uh | 18:26 |
| kanzure | well, i guess these | 18:27 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_frm/thread/92d27777f7e12b92 | 18:27 |
| ybit | heh, nice :) | 18:27 |
| kanzure | you should probably read http://gnusha.org/transcripts/open-science-summit-2010/diybio-bioethics-commission.html | 18:27 |
| kanzure | i wonder how i'm going to do interactive visualization with step.py... | 18:38 |
| kanzure | the only way i can figure to do that is with opencascade in an opengl session window next to the interpreter | 18:38 |
| kanzure | but the point was to avoid the dependency on opencascade :P | 18:39 |
| kanzure | one way to do it is to write my own triangulation routine to turn it into a .stl | 18:43 |
| kanzure | or write a translator to convert it to openscad input? | 18:44 |
| kanzure | well i guess it isn't too much to ask them to download a heekscad binary | 18:44 |
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| fenn | kanzure: see 192.168.20.14/movies/ | 20:57 |
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| eridu | kanzure: "it" isn't a very good pronoun for someone who doesn't identify as one side of the dominant gender binary | 22:23 |
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| jrayhawk | itist! | 22:35 |
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