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| ybit | ping anyone who has access to http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/120754246/abstract | 05:48 |
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| ybit | ping to anyone* | 05:53 |
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| ybit | hi eridu | 06:43 |
| eridu | ybit: hello | 06:43 |
| ybit | i'm curious who you are | 06:43 |
| eridu | ybit: why? | 06:44 |
| ybit | i'm not sure what prompted me | 06:44 |
| eridu | I am probably not someone you know or are aware of, if that's what you're wondering. | 06:45 |
| ybit | eridu: what are your main interests? | 06:46 |
| eridu | ybit: anarchism, software freedom, and transhumanism, not in any order | 06:46 |
| ybit | yay | 06:47 |
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| ybit | they are in alphebetical order btw :) | 06:47 |
| eridu | heh. | 06:48 |
| ybit | hi klafka | 06:48 |
| ybit | if anyone has access to http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/120754246/abstract i would appreciate a copy | 06:48 |
| eridu | ybit: msg me your email | 06:49 |
| ybit | eridu: heathmatlock@gmail.com | 06:50 |
| klafka | hey | 06:51 |
| ybit | hi :) | 06:51 |
| ybit | you and drazak are ~3 hours apart right? | 06:51 |
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| klafka | maybe, where is he? | 06:57 |
| drazak | ? | 07:03 |
| drazak | I'm east coast | 07:03 |
| drazak | oh | 07:03 |
| drazak | klafka is 1 hour by car | 07:03 |
| klafka | so buffalo or syracuse or something? | 07:04 |
| drazak | west of you, yes | 07:05 |
| klafka | aah | 07:05 |
| klafka | ok | 07:05 |
| ybit | was on the phone, i'm pretty sure we've had this conversation before :) | 07:08 |
| klafka | aah | 07:08 |
| ybit | there isn't a way to get in touch with katsmeow | 07:12 |
| ybit | hrm.. there's bound to be a way to social engineer my way around this... | 07:12 |
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| bkero | hun | 08:06 |
| kanzure | ? | 08:07 |
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| kanzure | "And so the research goes on, millions more dollars are poured in to deathhacking startups by rich-mortal-and-terrified benefactors, dozens more books are published on the subject and every day countless startup founders jump into their Teslas and speed to their “doctors” to pick up the latest batch of pills that they hope will keep them around until someone figures this shit out. And why not?" | 08:33 |
| kanzure | "And so the research goes on, millions more dollars are poured in to deathhacking startups by rich-mortal-and-terrified benefactors, dozens more books are published on the subject and every day countless startup founders jump into their Teslas and speed to their "doctors" to pick up the latest batch of pills that they hope will keep them around until someone figures this shit out. And why not?" | 08:33 |
| kanzure | http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/01/what-kills-us-makes-us-stronger/ | 08:33 |
| kanzure | oh it's the typical "but then people will wait forever to get anything done" argument | 08:35 |
| kanzure | yawn | 08:35 |
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| kanzure | 84795 frames in 5.0 seconds = 16958.973 FPS | 08:57 |
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| killall-9 | /. | 09:01 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: do you have any hints as to where gnusha_ is running on the server? | 09:01 |
| kanzure | they are clogging the logs: http://gnusha.org/logs/2010-08-01.log | 09:02 |
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| kanzure | Utopiah: are you in #hackers-india on oftc? | 09:32 |
| Utopiah | I hope not else I have a serious personality disorder | 09:35 |
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| Utopiah | (short answer: no) | 09:39 |
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| l-fy | hmmm | 09:43 |
| kanzure | hi l-fy | 09:44 |
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| kanzure | http://pp3dp.com/ personal portable 3d printer from china.. some of the stuff on the front page is from thingiverse | 10:06 |
| kanzure | $1500 | 10:06 |
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| kanzure | looking through the commit logs for meetlog.txt i'm starting to see large chunks of data being randomly deleted at a time | 10:25 |
| kanzure | mostly in chunks of 50 lines or so | 10:25 |
| kanzure | for instance, 2010-06-17 was deleted | 10:26 |
| kanzure | Biotech movement hopes to spur the rise of citizen scientists http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2010/08/02/biotech_movement_hopes_to_spur_rise_of_citizen_scientists/ | 10:32 |
| kanzure | Regulators take aim at genomics (Sonia Arrison on 23andme/FDA) http://www.technewsworld.com/story/70499.html | 10:35 |
| kanzure | heh the collabrx guy wrote a long comment here: http://singularityhub.com/2010/07/30/open-science-summit-2010-%E2%80%93-thursday-review/# | 10:58 |
| kanzure | "Really small projects can be lead and managed by sole investigators, but just because amateur astronomers can spot comets in our solar system (as one person gave at some point as a dumb analogy to open science) doesn’t mean that everyone on earth with a 3 inch telescope will be able to do what the Hubble does!" | 10:58 |
| kanzure | "Really small projects can be lead and managed by sole investigators, but just because amateur astronomers can spot comets in our solar system (as one person gave at some point as a dumb analogy to open science) doesn't mean that everyone on earth with a 3 inch telescope will be able to do what the Hubble does!" | 10:58 |
| kanzure | "No one’s 3 inch telescope can do that. (And no, you can’t just wire them all together to make a giant distributed telescope bigger and better than the Hubble — Nice try!" | 10:58 |
| kanzure | "No one's 3 inch telescope can do that. (And no, you can't just wire them all together to make a giant distributed telescope bigger and better than the Hubble -- Nice try!" | 10:58 |
| nsh | meh | 11:00 |
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| killall-9 | not all projects are so expensive | 11:07 |
| killall-9 | nitrogen cooled receivers to build a synthetic aperture radiotelescope are within the technical and financial capabilities of groups of amateurs | 11:08 |
| killall-9 | i have to admit the images are not as impressive as the (well choosen) false color images from Hubble | 11:09 |
| Utopiah | ( OSCON 2010: Melanie Swan, "DIY Genomics: An Open Platform for Citizen Science" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQh4kcX-gGU July 31, 2010 ) | 11:14 |
| kanzure | ah so that's why she wasn't at open science summit | 11:25 |
| fenn | china certainly upped the ante for makerbot | 11:29 |
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| kanzure | http://blog.reddit.com/2010/07/rms-ama.html | 11:44 |
| kanzure | RMS pimping for more CAD development work | 11:44 |
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| eridu | RMS's misunderstanding of anarchism is saddening | 11:58 |
| fenn | bleh, not autocad please | 12:03 |
| fenn | pro-engineer ftw | 12:03 |
| kanzure | house hearing on open access for science literature http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2010/07/house-hearing-explores-debate.html?etoc=&sms_ss=email | 12:05 |
| kanzure | fenn: have you used Pro/E? | 12:07 |
| fenn | no | 12:07 |
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| -!- Topic for #hplusroadmap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n39RK4inzg http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2009/ http://heybryan.org/ | 12:53 | |
| -!- Topic set by kanzure [] [Mon Jan 11 11:14:52 2010] | 12:53 | |
| [Users #hplusroadmap] | 12:53 | |
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| [ clemux ] [ gnusha ] [ kive ] [ nchaimov ] [ phryk ] [ ybit ] | 12:53 | |
| [ clever ] [ guibou ] [ klafka ] [ niftyzero] [ QuantumG ] | 12:53 | |
| [ drazak ] [ Ian_Daniher] [ kristianpaul] [ nima ] [ shepazu ] | 12:53 | |
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| kanzure | heh you probably just killed the server | 12:55 |
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| vsrinivas | hi! | 12:56 |
| kanzure | hi vsi | 12:58 |
| kanzure | er | 12:58 |
| kanzure | vsrinivas: | 12:58 |
| jrayhawk | What's the command I *should* be using to start up logging? | 12:59 |
| jrayhawk | You've got all this config boilerplate in .irssi that I don't know how to invoke. | 12:59 |
| kanzure | uh | 13:00 |
| kanzure | i've been "doing it wrong" | 13:00 |
| gnusha | Someday one of us should look into how to make join and logging happen automatically. | 13:02 |
| jrayhawk | oh no wait, I guess it is? | 13:03 |
| kanzure | i just set up an irssi session and set it to log to gnusha:/home/gnusha/public_html/logs/%Y-%m-%d.log | 13:03 |
| Utopiah | jrayhawk: to tweak the logging try /set log | 13:04 |
| jrayhawk | So it's just the automatic channel join that needs implementing. | 13:05 |
| Utopiah | http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup#c3 | 13:06 |
| vsrinivas | anyone read 'life from an rna world'? | 13:11 |
| kanzure | by ellington? | 13:12 |
| vsrinivas | no, michael yarus | 13:13 |
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| -!- Topic for #hplusroadmap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n39RK4inzg http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2009/ http://heybryan.org/ | 13:59 | |
| -!- Topic set by kanzure [] [Mon Jan 11 11:14:52 2010] | 13:59 | |
| [Users #hplusroadmap] | 13:59 | |
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| jrayhawk | I'm testing out the autojoin stuff. Seems to work. | 13:59 |
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| kanzure | "But the supremely important person in anyone's life is himself -- and a politician must never forget that." eek heinlein | 14:32 |
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| kanzure | out of context that quote sounds much less worse.. but it was meant as in "but the supremely important person in everyone else's life is himself -- and a politician must never forget that." | 15:06 |
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| uniqanomaly_ | kanzure context was perhaps unpopular decisions? | 15:08 |
| uniqanomaly_ | hmm, i have google, don't i | 15:09 |
| uniqanomaly_ | Farleyfile! | 15:11 |
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| jrayhawk | Heinlein went through a pretty big shift from heavy authoritarianism to heavy libertarianism between 1955 and 1965, so it's easy to paint him in whatever light you don't like. | 15:24 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: well, that quote was just one of the characters saying stuff | 15:26 |
| kanzure | it's just an interesting-but-painful realization of how some people think (like politicians) | 15:27 |
| jrayhawk | Ah, okay. | 15:27 |
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| kanzure | humanity+ needs another candidate for the board | 16:30 |
| kanzure | anyone want the spot? | 16:30 |
| QuantumG | I'm already bored | 16:31 |
| kanzure | you'd be perfect | 16:31 |
| bkero | yarrr | 16:34 |
| kanzure | bkero: do you have some form of transportation | 16:35 |
| bkero | kanzure: I don't, sorry. | 16:36 |
| bkero | I'm on foot this summer. | 16:36 |
| bkero | I'm at the Mozilla office if you'd like a tour though. | 16:37 |
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| QuantumG | how can people deny progress? | 18:16 |
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| Utopiah | because it's challenging their power? | 18:17 |
| QuantumG | "If the idea of progress does die in the West, so will a great deal else that we have long cherished in this civilization" - Robert A. Nisbet. | 18:20 |
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| * fenn rides across town | 18:50 | |
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| davemenninger | anyone going to the mars socieety convention in dayton this week? | 19:02 |
| davemenninger | i'm talking with a guy that is really interested in 3d printing on mars | 19:03 |
| davemenninger | i thought it sounded like something openmanufacturing people would be into | 19:03 |
| davemenninger | i will probably be there saturday with a makerbot | 19:03 |
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| QuantumG | is it this week? | 19:07 |
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| QuantumG | are you going dave? | 19:11 |
| davemenninger | i'll be there on saturday only | 19:13 |
| davemenninger | http://groups.google.com/group/southwest-ohio-reprap/browse_thread/thread/a448e5739da8e21b | 19:13 |
| davemenninger | bruce mackenzie is the guy's name | 19:13 |
| QuantumG | any chance you could get some video from the event? | 19:13 |
| davemenninger | he talked as though he had heard of openmanufacturing.net but wasn't very familiar with it | 19:14 |
| davemenninger | i could try - i just have a crappy g1 for a video recorder | 19:14 |
| QuantumG | that'd be awesome.. anything is better than nothing. | 19:14 |
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| bkero | kanzure: hoe goes? | 19:44 |
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| kanzure | fenn: 1h 30min to bike back? | 20:20 |
| QuantumG | random idea: 3d printing of plastic forms that snap onto LEGO | 20:22 |
| QuantumG | so you can build whatever out of Lego and then make it look pretty by putting a shell on it. | 20:23 |
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| QuantumG | http://quantumg.net/cmrobot.jpg | 21:00 |
| QuantumG | free stuff | 21:00 |
| genehacker | oh wow | 21:08 |
| genehacker | someone just broke recaptcha | 21:08 |
| QuantumG | broke or solved? | 21:11 |
| genehacker | broke | 21:14 |
| genehacker | you listen to sound then type in ten random words | 21:14 |
| QuantumG | haha | 21:14 |
| genehacker | it's unbelievable | 21:14 |
| genehacker | WHO WANTS SPAM? | 21:14 |
| QuantumG | I guess no-one ever tested it? | 21:15 |
| genehacker | hmmm... now what uses recaptcha | 21:16 |
| genehacker | isn't that what you use to make google accounts? | 21:16 |
| QuantumG | "Did you hear that Jim got kicked out of the ham club?" "Really, what for?" "He shaved off his beard." | 21:19 |
| genehacker | never heard that one... | 21:20 |
| genehacker | also what would you do with 4 old robotic arms? | 21:20 |
| QuantumG | robotic Indian god of some sort? | 21:21 |
| genehacker | did I mention they are old, for educational purposes, and in semioperating condition? | 21:22 |
| kanzure | how much do they cost | 21:29 |
| genehacker | what the arms? | 21:32 |
| kanzure | yes | 21:32 |
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| genehacker | they were free | 21:33 |
| genehacker | educational robots that weren't being used | 21:33 |
| genehacker | some professor who's a friend of the robotics club here couldn't stand letting them go to waste | 21:34 |
| kanzure | do you have them? | 21:34 |
| genehacker | he's one of our cruft suppliers | 21:34 |
| genehacker | they're property of RAS | 21:35 |
| genehacker | do you have any use for them? | 21:36 |
| genehacker | besides demonstration robot, telerobot, drink dispenser, or ironman soldering bench? | 21:37 |
| QuantumG | honestly, I'd be just doing experiments with teleoperation with it | 21:51 |
| genehacker | well first we need to get them working | 21:54 |
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| QuantumG | kanzure | 22:52 |
| QuantumG | you around? | 22:52 |
| QuantumG | apparently Dan Barry did a talk on the future of robotics last year. He showed the Big Dog clip.. the standard one where they kick it to demonstrate that dynamic stability. | 22:54 |
| QuantumG | the audience indicated that they thought this was "cruel" | 22:54 |
| QuantumG | ... I think this says something about the calibre of Singularity University students. | 22:55 |
| QuantumG | or at least the ones in that lecture. | 22:55 |
| QuantumG | Kicking a robot, no matter how anthropomorphic it makes you feel, has the same moral importance as kicking a tractor. Get a fuckin' grip people. | 22:57 |
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