2010-08-04.log

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epitronhttp://www.azarask.in/blog/post/tabcandy/04:59
epitronthat is so hot04:59
splicerDoes anyone know if Mac and Jason manage to live of DIYbio or do they have daytime jobs?05:06
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kanzuresplicer: they "live off diybio" but jason has a job with george church09:28
bkeroYou can live off diybio?09:51
bkeroI guess you can grow you own plants, but you need to rent space/living sundries09:51
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kanzurebkero: no, i mean by conning people into giving them grants and stuff10:09
bkeroAh that10:09
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kanzureedge-of-your-seat action http://www.forkliftsimulator.com/10:37
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kanzurehi sketchything 11:37
kanzureepitron: did you deactivate my bito account?11:43
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fennpeople here sure take long lunch breaks... i rode my bike to the store after everybody left, puttered around deciding on what sort of pita bread to get, and came back after about an hour and everybody's still gone13:18
kanzurei've been wondering about this13:25
kanzureit seems that the "time frequency" that everyone is on up here is different13:25
kanzureand i'm not calibrated or something13:25
kanzurelike, i expect things to happen faster than they actually do (like in person i mean)13:25
kanzurein austin my "time sense" seems to be okay13:25
toby_456Like a interpersonal phase shift?13:26
* kanzure nods13:26
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toby_456I think it's like injection locking in oscillators. At first the the injected and the generated signal have very little offset. Then they drift apart. It it reaches 180 degrees it jumps over to the next cycle and is parallel again.13:37
fennbandwidth a fundamental human right? http://globalthoughtz.com/2010/07/access-to-broadband-internet-connection-a-legal-right-in-finland/13:47
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splicerkanzure: thanks for answering the 'live off DIYbio' question about 4.5h ago... I had to go away for a while, just saw it now14:04
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kanzureso, biocurious is entirely joseph's doing14:33
kanzureand tito and eri aren't pulling their weight with it :P14:33
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kanzurehttp://bothacker.com/ another makerbot thinger like pp3pd or whatever it was14:51
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kanzurethingiverse is looking for a developer http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/eng/1880806188.html15:02
kanzurei need a puppet to work for them :P15:02
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kanzure"this should be obvious/easy - looking for an authoritative source for lab equipment/definitions - like a taxonomy or dictionary or something for pipettes and stuff - thought for sure IUPAC or NIST, but no luck. Help?"15:15
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epitronkanzure: no, you've just been gone so long that the box has had its hard drive die and it's been reformatted :)15:23
epitrondid you wanna host a buttload of papers on it or something?15:23
kanzureyes plz15:24
kanzurea metric buttload, not the english wankery15:25
epitronhmmm15:29
epitronhow are you going to get around the DMCA thing though?15:30
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epitronit's probably better to host it in one of those countries where all the botnets come from :)15:30
epitrons/botnets/botnet coordinators/15:30
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kanzurewell, there are other uses for servers15:47
kanzurefenn: any hints on what i should show gary wolf?15:48
kanzurehas anyone looked at gerber2scad15:54
kanzurehttp://github.com/clothbot/eda/tree/master/gerber/15:54
kanzurewow it's just a sed script15:55
kanzurenamely this one: http://github.com/clothbot/eda/blob/master/gerber/gerber2scad.sed15:55
toby_456Yeah! Almost as bad as pearl.15:55
kanzuretoby_456: also, welcome :)15:56
toby_456Umm, yes... Hi!15:56
kanzurehave you been here much before?15:56
toby_456Nope.15:56
toby_456You invited me yesterday, 'cause I was the only one mailing on the OpenrTMS list for the last 1.5y.15:57
kanzureoh oh :) i know who you are now15:59
kanzurecool15:59
toby_456Yeah, I am doing some electronics for the project. i.e. signal generator& coil drivers.15:59
toby_456Have You had a look into the Parallax Propeller? (8-core microcontroller)16:01
toby_456Has enough power to do online articulatory speech synthesis.16:02
kanzureyes i've looked at the propeller16:08
kanzurethe stumbling block in rtms projects seems to be the high voltage electronics16:08
toby_456Huh? We are not doing TENS here.16:08
kanzuredon't you need to do some sort of high frequency pulsing via a giant electromagnet16:09
toby_456On 20 Gauss on the skulls surface. Thats 100 mA in 1000 turns on 1cm diameter iron (according to QuickField).16:09
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toby_456I thought the idea behind the rTMS system was to use low-level signals.16:11
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toby_456If You have some given circuit and You want to inject a signal. You would normally choose a level thats in the normal operating range of the electronics.16:12
toby_456Holding a big coil to someones head, running a 1.5 Tesla pulse through his brain and explaining: "Now You cannot move Your legs for half a minute." Yeah, right. That's research.16:15
fennodd that they explicitly mention "shareware" http://www.playatech.com/16:16
fenn(diy furniture plans)16:16
kanzurefennnnn... advice on what to send to gary please?16:22
fennumm... graphs?16:22
fenna story?16:22
fenni dont really get why he's presenting it "for you"16:22
kanzuregraphs with nodes and edges or the plotting16:22
fennsounds like a recipe for disaster16:22
fennplots16:23
kanzurehow could this possibly fail :P (a somewhat serious question i guess)16:23
fennyou'd think microsoft research center would have some kind of telepresence setup16:24
kanzureso what plots do you think they would like to see16:25
kanzuretag plots, daily aggregates, individual plots (per person), the threshold graphs, or something entirely else like the tag clouds16:25
kanzurei guess i should switch this around and just ask what sort of data most interests you16:26
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mheldanybody know of any good text to speech libraries?18:39
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QuantumGhttp://quantumg.blogspot.com/2010/08/scaled-composites-dirty-little-secret.html18:58
fennhum it only took an hour to install django on windows19:03
fennif i had known that i would have tried it a long time ago19:03
fenni liked the tag clouds personally19:04
kanzuregah, phone19:04
fennalso it would be cool to do a graph graph like .. umm. that file that was on fennetic.net which is gone19:04
kanzure.. thanks :P19:04
fennbasically you tie together people you know by the context you know them in19:04
fennand visualize that with graphviz19:05
fennso you should get clusters of certain types of geekiness (i.e. seasteading clusters with cryonics for whatever reason)19:05
kanzurethere was a graph out there of someone who whored himself out to tim orielly19:06
kanzurethen he visualized people based on who introduced him to who19:06
kanzureand he had long, deep chains, like 8 levels deep sometimes19:06
kanzurein my case i don't really have that.. most of the time i just find someone before someone introduces me to them19:06
kanzurebut context-in-which-you-know-them would work how? the nodes would be tags?19:07
kanzurei could do a generic clustering algorithm on top of the tag clouds and just spit out lists of clusters of people based on what tags they are associated with19:08
kanzurebut that wouldn't be something that could be thrown into graphviz19:08
fennyeah that's sort of where i got the idea19:10
fennbut i didnt have introductions data so i used context instead19:10
fennnodes are just tags, the clustering isn't a discriminator, it's just the layout of the graph19:11
kanzureif nodes are tags where are the people?19:11
fennother nodes?19:11
fenni had two node types i guess19:11
kanzureok got it19:11
kanzurei have about 3k people and 6k tags19:12
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* fenn grumbles19:26
fenni'm going home19:26
fenntalk amongst yourselves19:26
Renovatiofenn i need to speak to you.19:26
Renovatiopartnership.19:26
* fenn mumbles something about fantasy sports19:26
fennbbiab19:26
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Fighterfenn19:27
Fighterare you a programmer?19:27
Fighterdo you do coding?19:27
Fighteroh come on jrayhawk20:11
Fighterin the middle of the discussion20:11
Fighterwhere did you go20:11
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kanzureftp://emi.nasdaq.com/ITCH/22:27
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Alystairwhat's this22:46
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UtopiahAlystair: http://itchdata.nasdaq.com/23:23
fennre: old color photographs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Prokudin-Gorsky23:48
fenncolor photographs of children who have long since died of old age23:51
fennmore of same photographer http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/work.html23:56
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