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| ybit | what as the situation with alex? | 00:01 |
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| ybit | was* | 00:01 |
| kanzure | to be honest, nobody knows | 00:01 |
| jrayhawk | Man, I don't know. I'm a lousy transhumanist. What kind of cool implants are available these days? | 00:07 |
| jrayhawk | The political arena would be the most interesting place for bargaining, but you don't have any leverage, so it'd just be mild citizen action stuff at this point. | 00:09 |
| jrayhawk | Which is not insubstantial. | 00:09 |
| kanzure | i was thinking of bargaining with 23andme | 00:09 |
| kanzure | as for implants there's nothing really on the consumer market for brain implants | 00:10 |
| kanzure | the utah array is still popular after 20 years or whatever (CyberKinetics) | 00:10 |
| jrayhawk | the BrainPort is pretty cool | 00:11 |
| jrayhawk | and I do kinda want neodyms | 00:11 |
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| kanzure | maybe we can all get prescriptions for adderall | 00:12 |
| uniqanomaly | piracetam is nice imo, and it's dietary supplement in US | 00:14 |
| jrayhawk | bryan you should make a brainport clone that can see infrared of ultraviolet | 00:14 |
| jrayhawk | s/of/or | 00:14 |
| kanzure | we can call it the bryanport | 00:14 |
| jrayhawk | haha | 00:14 |
| kanzure | wait does anyone sell a brainport? | 00:14 |
| jrayhawk | no | 00:14 |
| jrayhawk | brainport would also be useful as a small terminal | 00:16 |
| kanzure | yes but will it do unicode | 00:16 |
| kanzure | probably the wrong question | 00:16 |
| jrayhawk | depends on your font size! | 00:17 |
| kanzure | will it be VT100? | 00:17 |
| jrayhawk | hell yes | 00:17 |
| jrayhawk | you need to run irssi somehow, right? | 00:17 |
| kanzure | right | 00:17 |
| fenn | huh victoria jaguar | 00:19 |
| jrayhawk | You'd need some sort of input device you can use as you're casually walking along, though. Hip-mounted keyboard or something. | 00:19 |
| kanzure | do you know victoria? | 00:20 |
| kanzure | also i was expecting a "huh" re: nick taylor | 00:20 |
| QuantumG | I hereby name this rock "the missed opportunity". http://quantumg.net/2009BD.jpg | 00:20 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: you saw the pants keyboard thing, right? | 00:20 |
| jrayhawk | Nope! | 00:21 |
| kanzure | http://blog.makezine.com/keyboard_pants_backfront.jpg | 00:21 |
| jrayhawk | ahahaha | 00:21 |
| kanzure | i would prefer hip mount though | 00:21 |
| kanzure | or wrist mount with rotation | 00:21 |
| jrayhawk | yeah, hip mounted seems much less likely to get you arrested in public | 00:22 |
| fenn | victoria is in my burning man camp | 00:23 |
| fenn | hey guys a beagleboard and myvu is a lot less expensive than a brain implant that doesn't work as well | 00:24 |
| kanzure | here are the current votes: howard bloom 21, jamie bronstein 20, patri friedman 13, me 22, frederick gaston 3, victoria jaguar 16, alex lightman 7, thomas mccabe 15, max more 31, nick taylor 4 | 00:24 |
| jrayhawk | Either way, though, people asking you what the hell you have in your mouth will be sufficiently convinced by your explanation and lisp of a terrible case of aspergers that you won't be bothered by personal interactions for long. | 00:24 |
| jrayhawk | "I'M UTHING EYE-ARE-THEE, PLEBPIAN" | 00:24 |
| jrayhawk | "I'M A THRANTHUMANITHT | 00:25 |
| jrayhawk | , THTUPID" | 00:25 |
| kanzure | advantage: amazing cunninglingus | 00:26 |
| jrayhawk | haha | 00:26 |
| kanzure | you'll start "reading messages" | 00:27 |
| kanzure | "DAN WAS HERE" | 00:27 |
| jrayhawk | "B. BITHOP WATH HEWE" | 00:28 |
| kanzure | :( | 00:28 |
| jrayhawk | do not ask why you write with a lisp as well | 00:29 |
| kanzure | it's one of the aspie things | 00:29 |
| jrayhawk | not to mention the homestar-esque speech impediment | 00:29 |
| ybit | as it stands right now, who's leading in the board election? | 00:29 |
| kanzure | consistency yo | 00:29 |
| kanzure | ybit: max, myself and howard bloom. | 00:29 |
| Utopiah | mornin' | 00:29 |
| kanzure | ybit: there are three positions open | 00:29 |
| ybit | max wants people to come out of the closet | 00:31 |
| kanzure | what? | 00:31 |
| ybit | what kind of gay organization is thi (spit) | 00:31 |
| ybit | this* | 00:32 |
| kanzure | what are you talking about? | 00:32 |
| jrayhawk | he wants us all to come out of the closet and adapt superhero alter-ego names like "Max More" and "Bryan Bishop" | 00:32 |
| * fenn notes that sarcasm doesn't travel well over irc | 00:32 | |
| kanzure | "According to the logs of the current hosting company the magazine consumed up to 5 Mb/s (now down to 1 Mb/s as we shut off RSS hogs), and up to 300-400 GB/month." | 00:32 |
| jrayhawk | s/adapt/adopt | 00:32 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: they are paying $50/mo for that. is that a good deal? | 00:32 |
| fenn | 400GB/mo is a lot | 00:32 |
| kanzure | it's a crapload of high quality porn | 00:32 |
| ybit | """My own goals as a director fit very comfortably with the plans of the current directors, especially in terms of... ...attracting people currently "in the closet"""" | 00:33 |
| jrayhawk | Not terrible, assuming there isn't significant downtime. | 00:33 |
| kanzure | ybit: natasha probably told him that what will get him votes is anything about 'growing the membership' | 00:33 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: they have been paying $500/mo until recently | 00:33 |
| fenn | ybit: he meant "wouldnt tell their family about transhumanism", not "secretly gay" | 00:33 |
| kanzure | like me :P | 00:34 |
| kanzure | i didn't tell my mom about it | 00:34 |
| kanzure | but this was because i am stupid, not because i didn't want to | 00:34 |
| ybit | wait, you're gay? | 00:34 |
| kanzure | about transhumanism | 00:34 |
| ybit | kidding | 00:34 |
| kanzure | also i am sorry to inform you that i am not gay :/ | 00:34 |
| fenn | today at noisebridge i met a trans-something building hir own laser to destroy beard hair follicles | 00:34 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah, you are pretty gay about transhumanism. | 00:34 |
| kanzure | fenn: was that other people's beard hair follicles? | 00:34 |
| fenn | no | 00:34 |
| kanzure | so.. gnu hunting? | 00:34 |
| kanzure | okay | 00:34 |
| kanzure | UNTRIMMED BEARDS MAKE ME ANGRY AT DEBCONF | 00:35 |
| fenn | i'm of the opinion that transgenderism and transhumanism are basically the same thing | 00:35 |
| kanzure | what? http://doctormo.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/debconf.2.png | 00:35 |
| kanzure | do you mean transgenderism or transsexualism | 00:36 |
| fenn | well, both | 00:36 |
| kanzure | because honestly transsexualism in many cases seems quite barbaric | 00:36 |
| fenn | so does the current state of "other stuff" | 00:36 |
| fenn | brain implants, wearables, genetic engineering, all pretty bad imho | 00:36 |
| kanzure | i don't know if you've ever looked through the surgical protocols or "hey that was my dick!" galleries | 00:36 |
| kanzure | uh, not in comparison | 00:36 |
| fenn | well i dont think i'd get a "modern" brain implant either | 00:37 |
| jrayhawk | kanzure: the best prices on high-quality (i.e. battery-backed and redundant) bandwidth I've found are at gandi: http://www.gandi.net/hosting/ | 00:39 |
| kanzure | ooh cloud vps | 00:39 |
| jrayhawk | If you don't really care about uptime, just find the easiest way to get a cogent link to start abusing | 00:39 |
| jrayhawk | cogent is fun to get a home connection from because they are business and server heavy and desperate to even out their peering | 00:42 |
| jrayhawk | so they are eager for you to download many terabytes per month | 00:43 |
| kanzure | that sounds upside down | 00:43 |
| jrayhawk | Hmm? | 00:44 |
| jrayhawk | The home connection thought is tangential to the hosting discussion. | 00:44 |
| jrayhawk | I am basically saying you should try getting a cogent connection wherever you live. | 00:45 |
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| jrayhawk | this is usually impractically expensive unless you are at or next to an existing fibre conduit. | 00:47 |
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| kanzure | wow wtf x9000 | 00:58 |
| kanzure | david orban has sent me his "due diligence" doc for hplusmagazine.com before it was transfered from james clement to humanity+ | 00:58 |
| kanzure | this is absurd | 00:58 |
| kanzure | the mind, it boggles | 00:58 |
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| QuantumG | http://quantumg.net/top10.html | 01:11 |
| QuantumG | warning: 3.5mb html file | 01:11 |
| ferrouswheel | QuantumG, what browser - Firefox 3.6.8 is only showing me an empty drop down and reset view button | 01:22 |
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| kanzure | um, yah | 01:32 |
| kanzure | *yeah | 01:32 |
| kanzure | we can completely outcomplete hplusmagazine | 01:32 |
| kanzure | outcompete | 01:32 |
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| QuantumG | ferrouswheel: try http://quantumg.net/1999AO10.php should load faster.. if that doesn't work, can you check Tools -> Error Console for me? | 01:41 |
| jrayhawk | impressive | 01:43 |
| QuantumG | earth-centric trajectories are so freaky | 01:45 |
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| Utopiah | Where do you think DoD/DARPA and their robot manufacturers store the data from the last combat situations? | 02:25 |
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| kanzure | "gains in bioscience cause terror fears" http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703722804575369394068436132.html | 09:38 |
| kanzure | Negative article. Poor context. Links the following: Expert Craig Venter -> Ebola -> diybio -> high speed centrifuges -> backyard shed microbiology labs -> FBI -> Al Qaeda. | 09:38 |
| fenn | "The idea that four guys in a cave are going to create bioweapons from scratch--that will be never, ever, ever," lol | 09:48 |
| kanzure | http://blog.holyscraphotsprings.com/2010/08/diy-bio-fuel-is-contagious.html | 09:48 |
| fenn | filter fail | 09:49 |
| kanzure | filter fail? | 09:50 |
| fenn | that wasn't about diybio at all | 09:50 |
| kanzure | it was about biofuel | 09:50 |
| fenn | and filters | 09:50 |
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| kanzure | oh | 09:50 |
| kanzure | i thought you meant.. | 09:50 |
| kanzure | er. | 09:50 |
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| fenn | Utopiah: i bet they throw it all away as soon as possible to remove any possible incriminating evidence | 09:51 |
| kanzure | wow this article reads like a giant conspiracy theory | 09:52 |
| fenn | why are you reading popular articles? | 09:52 |
| fenn | back to work *whip whip* | 09:53 |
| kanzure | because mac posted the link. | 09:53 |
| kanzure | also, swig-user@whatever.sf.net hasn't replied to my email in a few days | 09:54 |
| kanzure | and nobody hangs out in #swig-wrapperrrr | 09:54 |
| kanzure | gah, #swig-wrapper | 09:54 |
| kanzure | could some of you guys join to make swig people think the channel has activity? | 09:54 |
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| kanzure | oh shitz | 10:26 |
| kanzure | vehicleforge.mil | 10:26 |
| kanzure | so.. DARPA funding for skdb? | 10:31 |
| kanzure | we have about three days to get a ilst of questions assembled, and about 50 before the proposal is due | 10:31 |
| kanzure | max pay out of $1M/year for 3 years, but they have $12M allocated to this? | 10:34 |
| kive | sure, kanzure -- I'll lurk in there until I reboot my box | 10:35 |
| kanzure | thanks kive | 10:35 |
| kanzure | nice to see you posting to diybio btw | 10:35 |
| kive | yup | 10:35 |
| kive | Just wrapped up my 10-days of Vegas... I suddenly have some free-time to actually read e-mails when they're fresh. ;) | 10:36 |
| fenn | is there like a webpage for vehicleforge or anything? | 10:40 |
| fenn | all i see is "proposers' day announcement" | 10:40 |
| superkuh | vehicleforge.mil doesn't even resolve for me. | 10:40 |
| kanzure | it's a .pdf being distributed around at them oment | 10:53 |
| kanzure | *at the moment | 10:53 |
| kanzure | here: https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=11a895334e76707406e3b78c918357cd | 10:55 |
| kanzure | which was from here: https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=f0a0b6204a5fc937bb926ce5e5b52851&tab=core&_cview=0 | 10:59 |
| kanzure | (actually it was jonathan kuniholm who brought it to my attention) | 10:59 |
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| kanzure | so uh, should i go after this? | 11:00 |
| kanzure | and who am i going to be competing against? | 11:00 |
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| niftyzero1 | fenn - you were at the summit this weekend? | 11:06 |
| kanzure | yes | 11:07 |
| fenn | only on saturday | 11:08 |
| fenn | oh, you're miron | 11:08 |
| niftyzero1 | right | 11:08 |
| niftyzero1 | did we speak in person? | 11:08 |
| fenn | no, but i recognize you from various meetup events | 11:09 |
| niftyzero1 | cool :) | 11:09 |
| niftyzero1 | are you going to the ASIM workshop tonight? | 11:09 |
| fenn | no | 11:09 |
| Utopiah | niftyzero1: do you know why it's called a "workshop" btw? are there specific hands-on activities? | 11:09 |
| kanzure | Utopiah: in the US, everything is a "workshop" | 11:10 |
| kanzure | just get some tables and chairs, BAM a workshop | 11:10 |
| niftyzero1 | I think because it's 80% discussion and 20% presentation | 11:10 |
| niftyzero1 | rather than the other way around | 11:10 |
| Utopiah | kanzure: well that's very trendy :-# | 11:10 |
| niftyzero1 | a whole bunch of summit people ended up in noisebridge last night... people seemed excited about the concept | 11:11 |
| kanzure | niftyzero1: really? | 11:12 |
| kanzure | in my experience, singularity summit ilk really hate hardware | 11:12 |
| fenn | cool, i was at noisebridge around 6-7 but didn't see anybody | 11:12 |
| niftyzero1 | well, some % of them are into it.... | 11:12 |
| niftyzero1 | they came around 9 | 11:12 |
| niftyzero1 | maybe 40 people | 11:13 |
| kanzure | fenn: so i've sent an email over to todd asking him wtf i should do | 11:13 |
| kanzure | i guess he has the most military contracting experience out of any of us :/ | 11:13 |
| fenn | yeah | 11:13 |
| fenn | i don't know if that pdf was enough info to even attempt to do anything | 11:13 |
| kanzure | there's a window closing in a few days during which we can submit questions | 11:14 |
| fenn | 'announcement of an announcement being announced' | 11:14 |
| AJollyLife | kanzure: yes, there were a ton of sing summit people at noisebridge last night | 11:15 |
| kanzure | miron cuperman? | 11:18 |
| kanzure | c1.summit2@niftybox.net? | 11:18 |
| niftyzero1 | that's one of my email addy's... | 11:23 |
| kanzure | ok just checking | 11:23 |
| niftyzero1 | ( I use c1.*@niftybox.net to track people spamming and otherwise leaking my email addresses ;) ) | 11:23 |
| kanzure | who leaked your address this time? | 11:24 |
| niftyzero1 | I think that's from the summit directory... | 11:24 |
| kanzure | oh well that makes sense i guess | 11:25 |
| niftyzero1 | kanzure - just curious - where did you see the address? | 11:28 |
| kanzure | see pm | 11:29 |
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| kanzure | http://github.com/devrandom/nanotools | 11:46 |
| kanzure | oh it's a pdb2blender | 11:46 |
| kanzure | aren't there other molecular visualizers | 11:46 |
| niftyzero1 | there's qutemol | 11:46 |
| niftyzero1 | not as flexible... | 11:47 |
| niftyzero1 | maybe | 11:47 |
| kanzure | huh i thought there were lots of pdb raytracers or something | 11:47 |
| niftyzero1 | well, in blender you can manually fiddle with stuff | 11:48 |
| kanzure | sure | 11:48 |
| niftyzero1 | but yes, it was more fun than a necessity... | 11:49 |
| niftyzero1 | Tom Moore also pointed me at other molecular stuff https://wiki.fysik.dtu.dk/ase/ | 11:49 |
| kanzure | "ASE provides Python modules for manipulating atoms, analyzing simulations, visualization etc." | 11:49 |
| kanzure | i wonder if this is in the blue obelisk set | 11:50 |
| niftyzero1 | this one is more of a library... might make sense to do nano in a programming environment than in a 3D environment. | 11:50 |
| kanzure | huh i didn't know blue obelisk was peter murray-rust http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Obelisk | 11:50 |
| kanzure | niftyzero1: i agree completely | 11:50 |
| kanzure | for that reason i've never really understood nanoengineer-1 (ne-1) | 11:51 |
| kanzure | "BUT YOU CAN DRAW ATOMS!!" | 11:51 |
| niftyzero1 | chemistry in second life ?! | 11:51 |
| kanzure | what? | 11:51 |
| niftyzero1 | from the Obelisk page | 11:51 |
| niftyzero1 | but anyway... blue obelisk points to http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/cdk/index.php?title=Main_Page , which seems similar to ASE | 11:53 |
| kanzure | do we have anyone in seattle in here? | 12:17 |
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| ferrouswheel | QuantumG, that alternative link seems to render okay... | 13:00 |
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| fenn | why is kevin kelly talking to luf-team people about garbage rafts??? | 14:21 |
| fenn | re: "guidance from coast guard ..." | 14:22 |
| fenn | "You can also download this paper in Proprietary Document Format (PDF)" | 14:26 |
| fenn | wonder how i managed to miss http://openvidia.sourceforge.net/ | 14:28 |
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| kanzure | are we sure that's our kevin kelly? | 14:38 |
| kanzure | wow! http://diyhpl.us/irc/tableseer.ppt | 15:02 |
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| kanzure | they are extracting tables from pdf files | 15:03 |
| kanzure | http://chemxseer.ist.psu.edu/ | 15:07 |
| kanzure | " | 15:09 |
| kanzure | The table search functionality of ChemXSeer is not available at this moment. | 15:09 |
| kanzure | http://chemxseer.ist.psu.edu/ChemXSeerTableSearch/tableidx.jsp | 15:09 |
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| kanzure | "Development and operation of an open source development collaboration environment and website for the creation of large, complex, cyber-electro-mechanical systems by numerous unaffiliated designers." | 15:19 |
| kanzure | "The principal technical challenge associated with this capability is a general representation language that is rich enough to describe a broad range of cyber-electro-mechanical systems, yet formal enough that the systems can be "compiled" or verified in some manner when a design change is made to some element or aspect of it." | 15:19 |
| kanzure | they may as well just had scribbled my name all over the document | 15:20 |
| fenn | yes please go after that contract like a rabid wolverine | 15:42 |
| kanzure | in reality it's going to end up in a .NET shop :P | 15:44 |
| kanzure | elevenarms is on board | 15:44 |
| kanzure | i wonder if matt hates me or not | 15:44 |
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| kanzure | fenn: do you think christopher morrison (from brlcad.org) would want in on this? | 16:10 |
| kanzure | especially since uh, he works for ARL? | 16:10 |
| kanzure | hah.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BRL-CAD_logo.png | 16:11 |
| kanzure | *BRL | 16:12 |
| kanzure | "ballistic research laboratory" | 16:12 |
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| fenn | sean morrison, yeah, i guess | 17:25 |
| fenn | i doubt it's kosher for ARL employees to be working under a civilian business contract | 17:27 |
| kanzure | okay, dave is definitely on it | 17:27 |
| kanzure | apparently dave's angel (brownell) worked on ARPAnet with vint cerf | 17:27 |
| kanzure | "In the early days, Cerf was a program manager for the United States Department of Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) funding various groups to develop TCP/IP technology." | 17:27 |
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| kanzure | fenn: would you want to be in on this? | 17:49 |
| fenn | of course | 17:54 |
| fenn | will have to make sure you do it right anyway | 17:56 |
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| kanzure | well it was nice while it lasted.. they reset the humanity+ polls | 19:21 |
| kanzure | here's what the stats were: | 19:26 |
| kanzure | howard bloom 22, jamie bronstein 21, patri friedman 18, bryan bishop 22, frederick gaston 4, victoria jaguar 16, alex lightman 9, thomas mccabe 16, max more 38, nick taylor 4 | 19:26 |
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| epitron | oh snap, howard bloom was there? | 20:33 |
| kanzure | yeah howard bloom is running for the board | 20:37 |
| ybit | and i still haven't been approved :) | 20:39 |
| * ybit would at least like to follow along in the conversation | 20:40 | |
| ybit | i want to know why they were restarted | 20:44 |
| kanzure | because someone complained that people were being approved | 20:44 |
| ybit | who's this someone? | 20:44 |
| kanzure | some anonymous person on the board | 20:45 |
| kanzure | apparently only people who are registered before august 13th are allowed to vote | 20:45 |
| ybit | wish i would have known about this election earlier | 20:45 |
| ybit | i would have ran myself :P i laugh thinking about the silly things i would put on me bio | 20:46 |
| ybit | i had problems getting on around aug 13 | 20:46 |
| ybit | instead of clicking a button, you had to send an email to yahoo requesting to be added *shrug* | 20:47 |
| ybit | my preference is clicking | 20:47 |
| ybit | if someone happens to build a time machine, please send it my way. i'd like to skip ahead to the moment i wake up tomorrow | 20:52 |
| ybit | no? | 20:54 |
| ybit | katsmeow-afk: rawr | 21:02 |
| kanzure | oh i get it. it started at BRL. | 21:21 |
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| kanzure | todd: right... | 22:00 |
| kanzure | todd: i'll give it a detailed read today | 22:00 |
| kanzure | todd: i'm doing a DARPA project right now | 22:01 |
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| kanzure | todd: so i might be able to help | 22:01 |
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| kanzure | http://roberttercek.com/2010/08/16/creative-self-destruction-at-humanity/ but he gets some of the details wrong | 22:46 |
| kanzure | why am i involved in any of this? | 22:46 |
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| ferrouswheel | for fun and profit? | 22:48 |
| ferrouswheel | ...oh wait | 22:48 |
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| kanzure | i don't get it http://exogen.github.com/nose-achievements/ | 22:51 |
| kanzure | ferrouswheel: :) | 22:51 |
| kanzure | ferrouswheel: http://diyhpl.us/ is my alternative | 22:51 |
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| ferrouswheel | hah - I like it | 22:54 |
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| kanzure | ferrouswheel: i'm wondering if humanityplus.org should get rid of its membership system | 23:01 |
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| ybit | logs from july 5 - aug. 5? | 23:12 |
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| ybit | that's me asking if anyone has logs of this channel from july 5 - aug 5 | 23:13 |
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| ybit | ping bkero, drazak, Overand, QuantumG, superkuh | 23:26 |
| drazak | yo | 23:26 |
| drazak | whatcha needs? | 23:26 |
| drazak | kanzure: I love how people quote me without even asking | 23:27 |
| drazak | kanzure: I guess it goes with the territory | 23:27 |
| drazak | kanzure: but atleast fix my grammar and spelling | 23:27 |
| kanzure | sorry did i quote you in quotes.html? | 23:27 |
| drazak | not you | 23:27 |
| drazak | some wiki or something | 23:27 |
| drazak | couldn't even bother to fix my attrocious spelling and grammar | 23:27 |
| drazak | http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio/FAQ/Equipment | 23:29 |
| drazak | is it possible to regex wiki pages? | 23:30 |
| drazak | I want to s/Ben\ Gadoua/\[drazak\]/ | 23:31 |
| drazak | ybit: what did you need? | 23:34 |
| ybit | drazak: i'm asking for logs of this channel from july 5 - aug 5 | 23:36 |
| drazak | oh uh | 23:37 |
| drazak | sorry, didn't see that | 23:37 |
| drazak | kanzure maybe? | 23:37 |
| ybit | maybe.. i think he was relying on gnusha though | 23:37 |
| QuantumG | http://quantumg.net/asteroids/skymap.html | 23:48 |
| jrayhawk | http://gnusha.org/~gnusha/logs/ | 23:50 |
| jrayhawk | not sure if that's the canonical URL for that | 23:51 |
| jrayhawk | oh, i guess it's just gnsha.org/logs/ | 23:52 |
| jrayhawk | http://gnusha.org/logs/ | 23:52 |
| jrayhawk | i can type i swear | 23:52 |
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