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| kanzure | i can has cylinder? http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/screenshots/2010-08-30-0234.png | 00:28 |
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| kanzure | well, sort of. | 00:28 |
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| joshcryer | kanzure, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeO-MK0xUP4#t=0m5s | 00:39 |
| kanzure | you just ruined my childhood | 00:42 |
| kanzure | :P | 00:42 |
| genehacker | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu- | 00:49 |
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| joshcryer | Self-replication: the ability to manufacture and autonomously assemble all parts of ones self, including hardware to run the software used to design ones self and iterations thereof. | 02:40 |
| QuantumG | heh, that's a little wide | 02:49 |
| joshcryer | Yeah, well. Without our brains our humans would not be procreating. Granted, a lot of procreation arguably occurs without much thinking. :P | 02:51 |
| joshcryer | I just was taking a shower and thinking, ok so maybe you could pull off a self-replication with some homemade transistors and servos (maybe 1000-5000 transitors tops, micron or even millimeter sized stuff here), wire extrusion, whatever. The thing is going to be mildly retarded and it will still take several more generations to have the whole technology-base self-replicating. | 03:09 |
| QuantumG | yeah, that paper I was reading the other day was actually talking about "vacuum tubes" instead of transistors.. of course, without the tubes, cause it's on the Moon | 03:15 |
| QuantumG | anyway I don't really care about full self-replication | 03:17 |
| QuantumG | I'd be happy if all the "reproduced" robots were controlled via radio from a centralized computer | 03:18 |
| joshcryer | Heh | 03:18 |
| joshcryer | I ain't going to lie, that'd be freaking awesome. | 03:18 |
| joshcryer | But I like manufacturing, so I propose the compromised route. | 03:18 |
| joshcryer | Basically robots on the moon that can make all of themselves except for perhaps servos and the ICs. | 03:18 |
| joshcryer | So you send up a factory thingy, and some robots, and they go out and make more robots and install the parts. | 03:19 |
| QuantumG | I can't see why they wouldn't be able to make the servos | 03:19 |
| joshcryer | 'perhaps servos' :P | 03:19 |
| joshcryer | I try to be concise in this pedantic channel. >:P | 03:19 |
| QuantumG | just solenoids | 03:19 |
| Utopiah | (naive question) can you make chemistry required for even simple IC without water? | 03:19 |
| joshcryer | Utopiah, from what I'm seeing, I think so. | 03:20 |
| QuantumG | you probably can but I have no idea how to. | 03:20 |
| QuantumG | tube radios.. it's so steampunk! | 03:21 |
| joshcryer | http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3757306.html | 03:22 |
| joshcryer | BTW, I think a lot of early CPU patents are now public domain. | 03:22 |
| QuantumG | probably gunna need some steampunk solution to sensors too | 03:22 |
| joshcryer | So all is not lost. :D | 03:22 |
| joshcryer | Oh btw I saved that tube radio thingy I meant to read it. | 03:24 |
| joshcryer | Anyone play with Ansys? | 03:25 |
| QuantumG | no idea what that is | 03:25 |
| joshcryer | http://www.ansys.com/products/default.asp | 03:26 |
| joshcryer | An "it only does everything" materials simulator. | 03:26 |
| joshcryer | BTW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOtEQB-9tvk | 03:33 |
| joshcryer | Worth laughing at if you're bored. | 03:33 |
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| Utopiah | http://lsub.org/magic/man2html/4/wikifs | 03:51 |
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| kanzure | joshcryer: i really think you should read http://www.molecularassembler.com/KSRM.htm | 08:46 |
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| kanzure | and somehow i'm going to convince you that stumbling around in the dark (choosing random technologies) isn't a productive use of your time | 08:47 |
| kanzure | < joshcryer> BTW, I think a lot of early CPU patents are now public domain. | 08:48 |
| kanzure | unfortunately patents do not describe how to make the patented technology | 08:49 |
| kanzure | usually it's just "staking a claim in legalese" | 08:49 |
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| kanzure | 10:11 <+|Japa|> I'm a bigger twat, I use thermonuclear-rocket.msi | 10:11 |
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| kanzure | hi |Japa| | 10:13 |
| * |Japa| bows | 10:13 | |
| |Japa| | another channel that I shal lurk in and very occasionallygive random comments | 10:14 |
| kanzure | and in which we will insult you while you're not looking :) | 10:14 |
| kanzure | heheh | 10:14 |
| kanzure | does anyone have the chart of "the right way" to lower body temperature down to cryogenic levels so as to avoid ice crystal formation? | 10:19 |
| kanzure | http://www.benbest.com/cryonics/iceform.gif | 10:19 |
| kanzure | http://www.benbest.com/cryonics/pressure.html | 10:19 |
| kanzure | i don't think that's it, though | 10:19 |
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| katsmeow-afk | i read a report that the faster the freezing, the shorter the xtals grow, and when short enough, they don't pierce cell walls | 10:21 |
| katsmeow-afk | don | 10:22 |
| katsmeow-afk | t know how you' | 10:22 |
| katsmeow-afk | d apply that to large masses tho | 10:22 |
| kanzure | does anyone know jjbarrows | 10:22 |
| kanzure | or Jeroen Van Goey | 10:22 |
| katsmeow-afk | my paws haven't awoke yet | 10:22 |
| kanzure | joshcryer's link earlier was to this: homebrew NMOS transistor step-by-step http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_znRopGtbE | 10:25 |
| kanzure | epitron's link bot would be welcome for youtube links that don't have surrounding textual description.. or maybe just a bot to yell at people who drop undecypherable links? | 10:25 |
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| kanzure | hi Juul | 10:28 |
| Juul | hey | 10:29 |
| Juul | kanzure, http://lists.labitat.dk/pipermail/discuss/2010-August/000958.html | 10:29 |
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| kanzure | http://biologigaragen.org/ | 10:30 |
| kanzure | ooh cool, i missed this one: http://ing.dk/artikel/108211 | 10:31 |
| * kanzure added it to http://bit.ly/diybionews | 10:33 | |
| Juul | cool | 10:34 |
| kanzure | is it off of gammel kongevej? | 10:36 |
| * kanzure has a rusty memory | 10:36 | |
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| alphydan | kanzure, have you been in DK? Kbh? | 10:46 |
| kanzure | not yet :) | 10:49 |
| Juul | kanzure, yeah | 10:51 |
| Juul | i added it to the DIYbio map now | 10:51 |
| splicer | good find | 10:52 |
| kanzure | splicer: no, that's Juul's website :) | 10:52 |
| splicer | good initiative juul ;) | 10:53 |
| Juul | :) thanks | 10:53 |
| kanzure | Juul: so is this diybio-copenhagen | 10:54 |
| splicer | (diybio is gonna sound cool for about 2 years) | 10:56 |
| Juul | hehe | 10:56 |
| Juul | kanzure, yeah, re-named and now with weekly meetings and a proper IT infrastructure | 10:57 |
| kanzure | okie dokie | 10:57 |
| kanzure | for our english-speaking friends, should we be calling it biologi garagen or biology garden | 10:57 |
| Juul | it's the biology garage | 10:58 |
| kanzure | oops | 10:59 |
| kanzure | got it | 10:59 |
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| kanzure | aha. | 11:01 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/screenshots/2010-08-30-0234.png | 11:01 |
| kanzure | the reason that looks like crap is because the circle was extruded to [0, 5, 5] instead of [0, 0, 5] | 11:01 |
| kanzure | so apparently you can extrude in more than one direction? | 11:01 |
| kanzure | genehacker: if you extrude a circle in solidworks, and save it as a STEP file, does the STEP file have a circle in it or a set of b-rep objects? | 11:02 |
| kanzure | oops | 11:02 |
| kanzure | i meant "does the STEP file have a cylinder in it" | 11:02 |
| splicer | juul: The Biology Garage is very good | 11:03 |
| Juul | splicer, glad you like it | 11:04 |
| bkero | kanzure: wtf vampire | 11:09 |
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| kanzure | bkero: vampire? | 11:10 |
| bkero | kanzure: the mplayer in your screenshot | 11:10 |
| kanzure | oh, that's star trek | 11:10 |
| bkero | oh | 11:11 |
| bkero | looks vampire-like, yes? | 11:11 |
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| kanzure | "open source camera" http://cinema.elphel.com/ | 11:44 |
| kanzure | explanation: http://osliving.com/sourced/real-world-open-source/meet-apertus-the-open-source-hd-cinema-camera/ | 11:44 |
| kanzure | commentary from the peanut gallery: http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/08/30/1639248/Apertus-the-Open-Source-HD-Movie-Camera | 11:45 |
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| ybit | ping | 12:55 |
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| ybit2 | grr @ quassel | 12:56 |
| ybit2 | kanzure did you say to look @ pythoncad? | 12:57 |
| kanzure | nah not really, don't waste your time | 13:10 |
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| kanzure | wb epitron | 13:19 |
| kanzure | stalk: Doak Mahlik <doak.mahlik@ic.fbi.gov> | 13:24 |
| kanzure | stalk: K. Erika Jensen <k.erika.jensen@ic.fbi.gov> | 13:24 |
| kanzure | stalk: Ewann Berntson <ewann.berntson@noaa.gov> | 13:24 |
| kanzure | and our friend ed is Edward H. You <edward.you@ic.fbi.gov> apparently | 13:25 |
| epitron | why do you want to stalk these people? | 13:25 |
| kanzure | because they're stalking me | 13:25 |
| kanzure | they are the FBI people assigned to diybio | 13:25 |
| kanzure | we all know about ed, but the others are news to me.. | 13:26 |
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| epitron | oic | 13:27 |
| epitron | it's a reactive stalk | 13:28 |
| kanzure | oh this is weird | 13:28 |
| kanzure | apparently i sent an email to an @ic.fbi.gov address a few years ago | 13:28 |
| kanzure | i submitted a FOIA request on myself | 13:28 |
| epitron | is that how you found out about your stalkers? | 13:28 |
| kanzure | no | 13:29 |
| kanzure | today i got an email from rob carlson that CC'd those people | 13:29 |
| kanzure | presumably it's a fluke | 13:29 |
| epitron | ah | 13:29 |
| kanzure | and for some reason i have never got my FOIA information | 13:29 |
| kanzure | hmm | 13:29 |
| epitron | heh | 13:29 |
| kanzure | " However, before we can process your request you must submit a Privacy Act Request Form which is available at foia.fbi.gov. Privacy Act Requests (records about yourself), require a valid and legible signature. The Privacy Act Request form can be either mailed or faxed to the address/number below." | 13:30 |
| kanzure | do i really want to see this document, though? | 13:30 |
| epitron | well then! get signing! | 13:30 |
| epitron | i dunno.. i read that reddit guy's foia request | 13:31 |
| epitron | it was pretty boring | 13:31 |
| kanzure | it's just reddit | 13:31 |
| kanzure | they aren't splicing genes into shit | 13:31 |
| epitron | hahah | 13:31 |
| epitron | he was still investigated by multiple people for multiple random weird things | 13:31 |
| epitron | aaron swartz | 13:31 |
| epitron | i guess he's somewhat political | 13:31 |
| kanzure | bah! http://foia.fbi.gov/privacy_request.htm | 13:32 |
| kanzure | aaron swartz hangs around diybio from time to time | 13:32 |
| kanzure | but wait, he did diybio? | 13:32 |
| epitron | makes sense :) | 13:32 |
| kanzure | i mean, reddit? | 13:32 |
| kanzure | blah | 13:32 |
| epitron | yeah | 13:32 |
| kanzure | privacy_rqeuest.htm is 404 >:| | 13:32 |
| epitron | he wrote web.py if i recall | 13:32 |
| epitron | which was a rewrite of the LISP reddit | 13:32 |
| epitron | ...as part of it | 13:32 |
| epitron | i think he was just there for the founding | 13:33 |
| epitron | he seems to have a lot of irons in a lot of fires :) | 13:33 |
| epitron | i can't imagine he stays on one for a long time | 13:33 |
| kanzure | http://foia.fbi.gov/requesting_records.html | 13:33 |
| epitron | you know, it always struck me that FOIA requests were only really useful for requesting things that aren't that secret | 13:34 |
| epitron | beacuse it's like an opt-in information revealing system | 13:34 |
| epitron | the organization has to voluntarily give you the documents | 13:34 |
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| genehacker | kanzure find me something cool to do with a robotic arm | 13:36 |
| epitron | make waffles automatically! | 13:36 |
| epitron | WAFFLETRON 9000 | 13:36 |
| kanzure | no waffletrons 9000 in here! | 13:37 |
| kanzure | gah. | 13:37 |
| kanzure | don't you remember what happened last time? | 13:37 |
| epitron | okay how about the SEQUENCERTRON 9000 | 13:37 |
| kanzure | genehacker: do you mean something cool or something practical | 13:37 |
| epitron | practical follows cool | 13:37 |
| epitron | ya gotta make something cool to develop the skills necessary to do the practical thing :) | 13:37 |
| epitron | (at least, that maximizes motivation) | 13:38 |
| epitron | (boring practical things are easier when you're not also assaulted by a learning curve) | 13:38 |
| genehacker | both if possible | 13:39 |
| kanzure | stalk: David Singband <david.singband@ic.fbi.gov> | 13:39 |
| genehacker | I have four robotic arms and two of them have force feedback capability | 13:39 |
| bkero | I have two biotic arms and two of them have force feedback cabability | 13:39 |
| epitron | whoa | 13:39 |
| epitron | how about robodrummer | 13:39 |
| epitron | drum rolls w/ force feedback | 13:39 |
| genehacker | they aren't fast enough for that | 13:40 |
| epitron | ahh | 13:40 |
| epitron | well, a roll is technically just rebounding :) | 13:40 |
| epitron | it doesn't have to be THAT fast | 13:40 |
| epitron | it has to have fast feedback tho | 13:40 |
| epitron | do you have a name so i can lookup a video and get an idea for what it can do? | 13:41 |
| genehacker | no videos of it exist | 13:42 |
| genehacker | it's a heatkit robotic arm trainer | 13:43 |
| ybit2 | wasn't there an effort to create an alternative 3d cad kernel? i'm sure there was... | 13:46 |
| ybit2 | aside from wildcat | 13:48 |
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| kanzure | ybit2: brlcad, opencascade, avocado-cad, cgal, opennurbs, what else are you looking for | 14:05 |
| genehacker | so do open cad programs not suck yet? | 14:08 |
| genehacker | also what's a good IRC logging bot? | 14:08 |
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| bkero | hackabot | 14:11 |
| kanzure | genehacker: if you want logs for this channel see http://gnusha.org/logs/ | 14:12 |
| Utopiah | is you like Python http://sourceforge.net/projects/supybot/ of you like to do weird stuff http://tools.suckless.org/ii/ else pretty much any client makes "good" logs | 14:13 |
| genehacker | starting up an irc room for the robotics trailer | 14:15 |
| genehacker | also it has to run on a weaksauce windows system, because that's what we have | 14:15 |
| jrayhawk | we can set up gnusha to log that for you too, probably | 14:15 |
| kanzure | genehacker: uh, the robotics trailer has a linux server.. | 14:16 |
| kanzure | http://ras.ece.utexas.edu/ | 14:16 |
| kanzure | you should have a login to that.. | 14:16 |
| genehacker | I do | 14:16 |
| genehacker | I know we have one | 14:16 |
| genehacker | oh ok | 14:16 |
| kanzure | also if you're hosting the channel on freenode make sure you register the channel first so that someone can be an op | 14:18 |
| kanzure | >_< | 14:18 |
| genehacker | yeah we will | 14:18 |
| jrayhawk | kanzure have you talked to a network op to see if they can fix that for you | 14:19 |
| jrayhawk | not that i suppose it's particularly important here | 14:20 |
| kanzure | yep they keep saying they have a backlog of 6 months | 14:20 |
| kanzure | i even submitted the damn paperwork | 14:20 |
| kanzure | .. more than a year ago | 14:20 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: maybe you could /join #freenode with me and show me the ways of "talking op" properly? | 14:21 |
| jrayhawk | I have no useful input. | 14:21 |
| kanzure | is there some jedi mind trick | 14:21 |
| jrayhawk | no freenode is mostly just horrible and you should probably be using oftc | 14:22 |
| kanzure | "you will grant op and the wookie to me" | 14:22 |
| genehacker | oh well we don't really need to use IRC that much | 14:24 |
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| kanzure | seasteading institute trying to figure out an audience for its book | 14:36 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/tsi-book-feedback/web/audience | 14:36 |
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| kanzure | http://blog.ginkgobioworks.com/2009/12/08/grad-school-bound-bio-engineers-wanted/ | 15:09 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/tsi-book-feedback/web/competition | 15:10 |
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| kanzure | hi papna-work | 15:28 |
| ybit2 | freecad isn't bad at all | 15:30 |
| kanzure | no, it's awful | 15:30 |
| ybit2 | that was re: 16:08 < genehacker> so do open cad programs not suck yet? | 15:30 |
| kanzure | it's just opencascade with a gui | 15:30 |
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| ybit2 | the occ part isn't the greatest, but they've managed to make a decent gui for simple operations | 15:33 |
| papna-work | kanzure: Hi. | 15:36 |
| kanzure | papna-work: shold we talk in here or in #python? | 15:36 |
| kanzure | also, progress screenshot: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/screenshots/2010-08-30-0234.png | 15:37 |
| papna-work | kanzure: I have yet to figure out what here is. | 15:37 |
| kanzure | in this channel we focus on open source hardware, CAD, do-it-yourself biology / genetic engineering, human enhancement, and the like | 15:38 |
| papna-work | This is for the journal....magazine....thing h+? | 15:39 |
| kanzure | the channel name is legacy stuff.. but yeah, h+ is an acronym/symbol for human enhancement | 15:39 |
| papna-work | Oh. | 15:39 |
| kanzure | the magazine started in 2009 | 15:40 |
| papna-work | Crazy transhumanists. | 15:40 |
| kanzure | heh | 15:41 |
| kanzure | and hey, if you're going to be sharing schematics for exoskeletons or whatever, you need CAD :P | 15:41 |
| kanzure | brlcad, opencascade, et al. just don't cut it.. | 15:41 |
| papna-work | Wait. You're making a CAD system that sucks less than OpenCascade? | 15:42 |
| kanzure | it's not hard.. opencascade sucks immensely | 15:42 |
| papna-work | OC works. | 15:42 |
| kanzure | sometimes :) | 15:42 |
| papna-work | You don't seem to be developing your code with the goal to work more often. | 15:43 |
| kanzure | btw have you ever tried to do development in the opencascade internals | 15:43 |
| kanzure | papna-work: why do you say that? | 15:43 |
| papna-work | kanzure: You admitted several times the dirtiness in which you were engaging. | 15:44 |
| kanzure | inside of opencascade it's some terrible mix of C/C++/french/english left over from the early 90s | 15:44 |
| kanzure | yes that's true | 15:44 |
| papna-work | I looked at using the OC internals once. | 15:44 |
| kanzure | ... for the visualization stuff :) | 15:44 |
| papna-work | We ended up sticking with Parasolid. | 15:44 |
| kanzure | commercial license? | 15:44 |
| papna-work | kanzure: The visualization stuff is a core functionality. =p | 15:45 |
| papna-work | kanzure: Yeah. | 15:45 |
| kanzure | well i want the core functionality to be STEP export-- but i realized that nobody is going to use this without a quick way to visualize what they are doing (say, interactively in python) | 15:45 |
| kanzure | but yeah in an end-user CAD system visualization is important | 15:45 |
| kanzure | when you bought the parasolid license does that mean you got the parasolid source code? | 15:46 |
| papna-work | No. | 15:46 |
| kanzure | or just some header files and DLLs/libraries? | 15:46 |
| papna-work | Right. | 15:46 |
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| kanzure | in an ideal world, i would have found an STDAI library for STEP somewhere- like the one that NIST wrote | 15:48 |
| kanzure | and then implement some python wrappers to it | 15:48 |
| kanzure | but instead i decided the NIST SCL ("step class library") was a lost cause and just implemented my own in python | 15:48 |
| kanzure | it turns out that brlcad.org recovered and fixed SCL within the past year though | 15:48 |
| kanzure | so brlcad now imports STEP (i dunno about exporting) | 15:48 |
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| ybit2 | i wonder why more people don't use lua | 16:04 |
| kanzure | lua is used extensively in the game development community | 16:04 |
| ybit2 | the libs | 16:04 |
| kanzure | i used it for all of my in-game scripting, always | 16:05 |
| ybit2 | i'm guessing it isn't as accessible as some languages | 16:05 |
| kanzure | what? | 16:05 |
| ybit2 | well, haskell has hackage and python has pypi | 16:05 |
| ybit2 | seems to be easier to find what you need | 16:06 |
| kanzure | i was always using lua for one-off stuff and anything critical was just written in C++ and then added in through bindings.. | 16:06 |
| kanzure | http://jpmandon.blogspot.com/2010/08/pinguino-as-self-replicating-device.html | 16:36 |
| kanzure | "The Pinguino (PIC-powered Arduino) can now program itself into another Pinguino:" | 16:36 |
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| ybit2 | #pinguino | 17:09 |
| ybit2 | i used to talk with that guy quite a bit | 17:09 |
| ybit2 | haven't heard from kristianpaul in awhile though :) | 17:10 |
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| kristianpaul | ybit2: hey | 17:21 |
| kristianpaul | yeah sorry kidn of busy bu i try to track this channel | 17:22 |
| kristianpaul | may be i neeed a bot that give me stats about key words | 17:22 |
| kristianpaul | do you know wich i nca use? | 17:22 |
| kristianpaul | that will save me lots of readiong and pointme to the most discussed things i guess | 17:22 |
| ybit2 | kristianpaul: you can always use grep :) | 17:26 |
| kristianpaul | lol | 17:26 |
| kristianpaul | and the stats? | 17:26 |
| ybit2 | er..psig or something like that | 17:26 |
| ybit2 | pisg* | 17:27 |
| kristianpaul | oh ok | 17:27 |
| ybit2 | perl irc stat generator is what it stands for i think, but i don't think it's much use :) | 17:27 |
| ybit2 | 45 second clip of dilbert cartoon's take on engineers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXGDRrkaRgU | 17:28 |
| kristianpaul | lolo | 17:29 |
| kristianpaul | thats the top i had seen | 17:29 |
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| kanzure | ybit gets bonus points (i've been reading dilbert at dinner for the past few min) | 17:48 |
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| kanzure | hi Japa | 18:30 |
| Japa | hey | 18:30 |
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| kanzure | these people almost scare me :) | 19:29 |
| kanzure | http://www.processengr.com/personnel.html | 19:29 |
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| kanzure | i like http://pangalactic.us/tao.html | 19:54 |
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| kanzure | http://bit.ly/PCSBI_DIYbio_edit | 21:32 |
| kanzure | jason must be ignoring me or something | 21:35 |
| kanzure | how many emails do i have to write to this guy? | 21:35 |
| ybit2 | i like the tao of programming too, thanks for linking :) | 21:36 |
| kanzure | latest trance dump from me: http://pastebin.ca/1929689 | 21:47 |
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| kanzure | hi QuantumG | 22:10 |
| QuantumG | hey | 22:10 |
| QuantumG | lost power for 5 hours there | 22:10 |
| kanzure | when will you move to a more civilized part of the world? | 22:10 |
| QuantumG | dudes in cherry pickers on the street messing with the wires. | 22:10 |
| katsmeow-afk | moving costs money | 22:11 |
| QuantumG | it's all the same.. they give you 30 days notice | 22:11 |
| QuantumG | the notice actually said 9am to 5pm | 22:12 |
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| epitron | http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=423401718908 | 22:24 |
| katsmeow-afk | http://www.facebook.com//login.php | 22:24 |
| QuantumG | indeed, I hate the way facebook users assume everyone else in the world is a part of their cult. | 22:26 |
| * Utopiah has been kicked out of FB anyway http://twitter.com/utopiah/status/22243371972 | 22:29 | |
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| phryk | I hate it how twitter users assume everyone else in the world is a part of their cult. | 23:04 |
| QuantumG | only morons who mark their tweets as "private" | 23:08 |
| QuantumG | completely missing the point of the medium | 23:08 |
| * kanzure mumbles something about saving revolved curves and surfaces for tomorrow | 23:48 | |
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