2010-09-04.log

--- Log opened Sat Sep 04 00:00:17 2010
splicerMerediths Biopunk manifesto video link: http://artsci.ucla.edu/videos/outlaw_biology/OB5_Meredith_Patterson/00:00
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kanzureoh outlaw biology had videos?00:01
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kanzurehttp://www.hplusmagazine.com/editors-blog/biotech-revolution-must-start-education james from otypes 09:44
kanzure"japanese society for cell synthesis"09:47
kanzurethis has a short overview of synthetic biology in japan: http://www.twanetwerk.nl/default.ashx?DocumentID=1424109:47
kanzurehttp://www-symbio.ist.osaka-u.ac.jp/en/index.html09:47
kanzurehttp://www.eng.chiba-u.ac.jp/e-grad-school14.html09:47
kanzurehttp://www.sb.dis.titech.ac.jp/09:48
kanzurehttp://www.psc.riken.jp/english/group/functional/index.html09:48
kanzurehttp://www.cdb.riken.go.jp/en/index.html09:48
kanzurehttp://www.f.waseda.jp/hideo-iwasaki/english.html09:48
kanzurehttp://www.sbj.or.jp/e/news/news_20091124-1.html09:48
dustbinhow's the cad project coming09:51
kanzurei've been finding creative ways to avoid the visualization front-end09:51
dustbinheh09:52
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kanzurepart of the reason is that #python told me "you're doing it wrong" when i was doing ipython -wthread for an interactive session while running my visualizer09:54
kanzurethey suggested that i write my own interpreter hooks directly into the app itself :/09:54
kanzureso now i've been wondering which way to go.. a relatively "wrong" way (which, uh, we want to keep this clean) but easy way, or spend a lot of time doing things i really don't like doing but will get the job done too?09:55
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kanzurejmil: i suggest using screen for irc10:25
jmilright now?10:25
jmildid i miss something?10:25
jmildon't have time to read irssi manual10:25
ybit2quassel ftw10:30
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kanzurejmil: if you need assistance, feel free to call me while you're first using it (it's not more than 30 seconds)10:31
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jmilkanzure and jrayhawk reprap-dev email done, thx for your feedback10:38
jmillet the flame war begin10:39
kanzurelet's hope we don't have another repeat of "pdf vs. git"10:39
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jmillol no joke10:40
jmilall design files should just be in a single continuous ASCII file10:40
jmilthat makes the most sense10:40
jmilwe will store it on a usb flash drive10:41
kanzureactually, i'm very anti-pdf for design file storage10:41
kanzureit's ok as an exported file from some other format10:41
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jmilif it's vector graphics, i don't mind it so much. because it's ascii so you can get the data out10:42
kanzurebut it's like saying "okay, i made a .sldprt model and here's the stl of the design" "great, can we have the design?" "no. here's the stl"10:42
kanzurenah, people will probably screw up storing vector data in a pdf file10:42
jmillol true, true10:42
jmil"i convert to pdf by saving my jpeg as pdf... now it's vector right?"10:42
kanzurehttp://reprap.org/pipermail/reprap-dev/2010-September/000510.html10:50
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kanzurewow pycrust and pyshell are fairly "bulky"11:57
kanzurelike:11:57
kanzurehttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/813571/embedding-a-python-shell-inside-a-python-program11:57
kanzurehttp://openp2p.com/pub/a/python/2002/07/18/pycrust.html?page=211:57
kanzurehttp://www.wxpython.org/ss/pyshell.png11:58
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kanzure"Kind of reminds me of a friend who worked in sales. Whenever he was going to take a client to a restaurant he would always go to the restaurant the day before find a waiter who was going to be there during the lunch meeting and tip heavily so as to be sure of good service during the working lunch."12:26
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epitronkanzure: you ever used reinteract?14:03
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kanzureepitron: no, but i think i've seen a few terminals like that14:19
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epitronit's a lightweight embeddable python shell with re-executable history14:24
epitronyou should play with it a bit14:24
epitronthe re-executable history is really clever... it maintains dependencies between lines of code14:24
epitronso it only has to re-execute the lines that need it14:25
epitronalso, it lets you add a method to an object to have it display graphically in the window14:25
kanzurei'm just going to say screw it and go with ipython -wthread and anyone who complains can just write something better14:25
epitroni still strongly recommend trying reinteract14:26
kanzureokay. i have nothing against tryingi t :)14:26
epitronit will change the way you think about CLIs14:26
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kanzurewtf16:27
kanzureforesight institute gets about $500k/year in donations16:27
kanzurerandom blog: http://singularity2050.com/16:28
kanzurei wonder where all these people are coming from: http://www.aerogel.org/?p=114916:36
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kanzureNanotechnology and the Commons: Implications of Open Source Abundance in Millennial Quasi-Commons (Bryan Buns) http://www.cm.ksc.co.th/~bruns/opennan2.htm16:42
kanzurewhat was zyvex diamondcad?16:46
kanzureand the "open patent license"?16:46
kanzureOpen Sourcing Nanotechnology Research and Development: Issues and Opportunities http://www.cm.ksc.co.th/~bruns/open_mnt.htm16:46
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kanzuretooltip failuer mode BOINC project results http://www.nanohive-1.org/tooltip-failure-mode-search-project-results.html18:30
kanzure*failure18:31
kanzureexplanation http://www.nanohive-1.org/tooltip-failure-mode-search-project.html18:31
kanzureso "brian helfrich" wrote nanoengineer-1?18:32
kanzurehttp://sourceforge.net/projects/nano-hive/18:33
kanzure"I'm no longer maintaining NanoHive-1 nor NanoHive@Home. If you would like to take over either or both of the projects please contact me and I can help you (or at minimum hand over the keys.) --Brian. "18:33
kanzuredamn it, guess i should get on that18:33
drazakanyone ever use chembiodraw office?18:36
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drazaksuperkuh: ever use chembiodraw office?19:32
superkuhNo. I've used chemdraw office.19:33
drazaksuperkuh: I have a chance to get it free, and I'm trying to compare it to other software, but the literature is a little uh, sparkly19:33
drazaksame thing, for what I'll be using it for19:33
drazakcan I input a structural formula ( OCHCH3 ) and it'll spit out the shape ( the shape of ethanal ) ?19:33
superkuhI don't know. If it is in SMILES.19:34
kanzureisn't there a smiles2png script somewhere?19:34
superkuhI think I remember a database lookup tool that could handle that, or the english name.19:35
superkuhIn chemdraw.19:35
drazaksuperkuh: that would be cool19:35
drazaksuperkuh: I'd like to use it to expand my notes from o-ghem19:35
drazaksuperkuh: er, o-chem19:35
drazakI was also looking at chemdoodle19:40
drazakbecause it /can/ for a /fact/ import from structural formula19:41
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kanzurehttp://www.twirlip.net/ "Twirlip's wholistic integrated resources linking intelligent peers of the Mists"20:24
kanzurewtf paul20:24
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kanzurehttp://www.glprogramming.com/red/chapter03.html is helpful for my opengl woes21:47
dustbinthat twirlip thing is a bit odd...21:49
dustbinprofessor fussels graphics class did an excellent job of explaining all the matrix transform theory21:52
kanzurewho is professor fussels graphics?21:56
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dustbinprofessor fussell's graphics class at UT22:01
dustbinhe was my adviser for my undergraduate thesis as well22:01
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