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| jrayhawk | when you decide you don't want to maintain it anymore, you can rename it incommunicad | 00:14 |
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| jrayhawk | and proceed to start ignoring all emails | 00:15 |
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| epitron | hahah.. cadsmere | 02:34 |
| epitron | caddy | 02:34 |
| epitron | you should make a big list and have a vote | 02:34 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 07:57 |
| kanzure | hello JayDugger | 08:04 |
| kanzure | boacad? | 08:06 |
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| splicer | cadzure | 08:14 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: maybe i should get a headstart and just start ignoring all emails now? | 08:21 |
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| kanzure | http://manufacturing.swri.org/ | 09:21 |
| ybit | who wants $50-$150? | 09:51 |
| ybit | if you are willing to make a simple 3 page website... you can make this kind of money!!111 | 09:52 |
| bkero | money? | 09:54 |
| bkero | ybit: money!!111 | 09:54 |
| ybit | :P | 09:55 |
| ybit | a woman wants me to create a simple 3 page site for her, but i'm too engrossed in my own stuff to even bother | 09:55 |
| bkero | a 3 page site | 09:55 |
| bkero | Do you have details? | 09:55 |
| ybit | yeah | 09:55 |
| ybit | yes i do! | 09:56 |
| bkero | PM? | 09:56 |
| ybit | nah | 09:57 |
| ybit | bkero: http://pastebin.com/4sdbfj60http://pastebin.com/4sdbfj60 | 09:57 |
| ybit | whoops | 09:57 |
| ybit | http://pastebin.com/4sdbfj60 | 09:57 |
| ybit | srsly, if you just want to copy that frames site, she's fine with that | 09:57 |
| bkero | lol | 09:58 |
| * kanzure is trying to resist lolcad | 09:59 | |
| bkero | Ok | 10:00 |
| ybit | bkero: you'll do it? | 10:00 |
| ybit | a simple navigation like this would do if you wanted to avoid frames: http://micagraves.com/ | 10:00 |
| ybit | she met this lady while she's been in colorado | 10:01 |
| ybit | anywho, i can give you the images and everything if you are willing to do it | 10:01 |
| ybit | she has plenty of stuff to work with, but she doesn't want all the images up, because she doesn't want to give away everything :P | 10:01 |
| ybit | so, a simple three pages, an about page with a simple description and pic of herself... a commisions/contact page (she has the paragraph written), and a portolio page | 10:02 |
| ybit | where you just do some simple javascript slideshow | 10:02 |
| ybit | simple simple simple... | 10:03 |
| ybit | <- lazy | 10:03 |
| ybit | well, no rush, think long and hard on it :P | 10:04 |
| bkero | ybit: Heh | 10:06 |
| bkero | ybit: Sure | 10:06 |
| ybit | oh wow, okie doke. i'll email you the relevant info and files | 10:06 |
| jmil | kanzure: damn adrian doesn't like one git repo. maybe i will just walk away | 10:06 |
| jmil | i have zero desire to manage all seven repos | 10:06 |
| jmil | it's totally ludicrous | 10:07 |
| jmil | to design a repo for a hypothetical developer we've never met | 10:07 |
| jmil | and make it harder for every current developer because there *might* be someone in the future that can't download 100 MB | 10:07 |
| bkero | ybit: does she want a header? | 10:19 |
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| kanzure | jmil: splitting up the separate projects into separate repositories sounds like an ok idea to me | 10:28 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: i'm very confused about that email thread | 10:28 |
| jmil | it sounds okay to everyone except the maintainer.... | 10:28 |
| jmil | it's way more complicated | 10:29 |
| jmil | for people to manage on their home dir too | 10:29 |
| jmil | i don't know anyone that wouldn't want the entire thing | 10:29 |
| kanzure | me | 10:29 |
| kanzure | i want mendel.git | 10:29 |
| jmil | even adrian wants it at home but he doesn't understand git | 10:29 |
| kanzure | or huxley.git | 10:29 |
| jmil | but you need electronics too | 10:29 |
| jmil | and miscellaneous | 10:29 |
| kanzure | okay? | 10:29 |
| jmil | and software | 10:29 |
| kanzure | this is why you have package managers | 10:29 |
| jmil | then you have duplicated objects between projects | 10:30 |
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| jmil | so wasted space | 10:30 |
| kanzure | what's the duplicated object? | 10:30 |
| jmil | for the people that are complaining about it taking too much space | 10:30 |
| kanzure | if they are dupes then they should be in a separate project repo | 10:30 |
| kanzure | and just referenced | 10:30 |
| jmil | lol | 10:30 |
| jmil | they are everywhere | 10:30 |
| kanzure | have you done any software development before? i guess i never asked | 10:30 |
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| jmil | http://github.com/jmil/makerbot | 10:31 |
| jmil | http://github.com/jmil/SkeinFox | 10:31 |
| jmil | http://github.com/jmil/skeinforge | 10:31 |
| jmil | http://github.com/jmil/ShareUrMeal | 10:31 |
| jmil | i actually know what i'm talking about... | 10:32 |
| kanzure | skeinforge is not evidence of such :) | 10:33 |
| kanzure | :p | 10:33 |
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| jmil | u want to make me 7 new repos? lol | 10:42 |
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| jmil | kanzure: you want huxley.git or huxley.tar.gz? | 10:48 |
| jmil | you want mendel.git or mendel.tar.gz? | 10:49 |
| kanzure | huh? | 10:51 |
| kanzure | why would i want a .tar.gz of a .git | 10:51 |
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| jmil | will you set me up with 7 new repos? | 11:10 |
| jmil | kanzure: ? | 11:10 |
| jmil | jrayhawk: u there? | 11:12 |
| jmil | git clone git://diyhpl.us/reprap | 11:12 |
| jmil | not working | 11:12 |
| jmil | and i need 7 new repos i guess | 11:12 |
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| kanzure | jmil: did you change anything in reprap.git? | 11:16 |
| kanzure | what are the seven new repos that you need? | 11:16 |
| jmil | the seven folders | 11:16 |
| jmil | darwin | 11:16 |
| jmil | electronics | 11:17 |
| jmil | huxley | 11:17 |
| jmil | mendel | 11:17 |
| jmil | reprap | 11:17 |
| jmil | software | 11:17 |
| jmil | users | 11:17 |
| kanzure | uh | 11:17 |
| jmil | but reprap will overwrite the current reprap | 11:17 |
| kanzure | how about prepending reprap to all of those except reparp.git | 11:17 |
| jmil | so that is bad | 11:17 |
| kanzure | *reprap.git | 11:17 |
| kanzure | reprap-darwin, reprap-huxley, reprap-mendel, reprap-software, .. | 11:17 |
| jmil | ok | 11:17 |
| kanzure | before we do that i'd like to figure out why reprap.git is failing me | 11:18 |
| jmil | how do i do the initial push into the /srv/git/XXXX.git folder again? | 11:18 |
| jmil | i think i reset something, not sure what | 11:18 |
| jmil | trying some of adrians bad suggestions | 11:18 |
| jmil | he really doesn't understand git | 11:19 |
| kanzure | git push -force is one way to push to something.git | 11:20 |
| kanzure | commit 52919cbe3e396e78e089d96c1dccb6daeda3e06c | 11:21 |
| kanzure | Merge: 8b958ad 6b23367 | 11:21 |
| kanzure | Author: Jordan Miller <peptides@benchscience.org> | 11:21 |
| kanzure | Date: Thu Sep 9 09:38:31 2010 -0700 | 11:21 |
| kanzure | Merge branch 'SVN' | 11:21 |
| kanzure | looks like this was your latest commit to reprap.git? | 11:21 |
| jmil | ya that's right | 11:21 |
| jmil | but did git daemon get broken? | 11:22 |
| jmil | cgit looks fine still | 11:22 |
| jmil | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/reprap/ | 11:22 |
| jmil | and it's not caching, so that's accurate | 11:22 |
| kanzure | git clone /srv/git/reprap.git seems to work | 11:24 |
| kanzure | hm git-daemon isn't in /etc/init.d/ i wonder where it's called on bootup | 11:25 |
| jmil | jrayhawk: halp pls | 11:25 |
| jmil | i did git gc --aggressive in ~/reprap/ | 11:25 |
| jmil | then git push --mirror | 11:26 |
| kanzure | what's with you and --mirror? | 11:26 |
| jmil | because how else do you make the .git that has been gc -aggressive overwrite the current .git? | 11:26 |
| kanzure | so did you run those two commands before or after it broke | 11:26 |
| jmil | before | 11:26 |
| kanzure | aha | 11:26 |
| jmil | and after | 11:26 |
| kanzure | when i asked "jmil: did you change anything in reprap.git?" that's what i was hoping you would tell me | 11:27 |
| jmil | oh | 11:27 |
| kanzure | i'm sorta on my lunch break right now :P but i do have a question | 11:27 |
| kanzure | let's say you get those seven reprap project repositories for the different models and projects | 11:27 |
| kanzure | does the reprap-dev team have any sort of capability of referencing parts and projects that are not directly laying next toeach other on the file system | 11:28 |
| jmil | i dunno what you mean | 11:29 |
| kanzure | if two software projects depend on libc, the projects do not just put libc into the dev repos | 11:30 |
| jmil | oh. i think everything is self-contained | 11:30 |
| kanzure | gah | 11:30 |
| jmil | that's my complaint that there's duplicates all around the working tree | 11:31 |
| jmil | so splitting up into separate projects makes the repos bigger, NOT smaller | 11:31 |
| kanzure | why are there duplicates in the first place | 11:31 |
| jmil | i'm gonna maybe just walk away from all this. | 11:31 |
| jmil | you'd have to ask adrian | 11:31 |
| jmil | he won't read email tho :D | 11:31 |
| jmil | he won't respond to that point when i asked him several times in that email thread, either | 11:32 |
| jmil | can't teach old dog... | 11:32 |
| jmil | there's firmware folder in firmware and darwin | 11:32 |
| jmil | and reprap folder doesn't make sense | 11:32 |
| jmil | etc etc | 11:32 |
| jmil | it's an awful working tree | 11:32 |
| jmil | so that's why i want it all in one repo | 11:33 |
| jmil | or a big reason, at least | 11:33 |
| kanzure | is the diff between firmware/ and darwin/firmware/ null? | 11:33 |
| jmil | no. there are differences | 11:33 |
| jmil | but it makes no sense hierarchically | 11:33 |
| jmil | because some of the firmware files are the same | 11:33 |
| jmil | it's fine to have duplicates in the working tree as long as the objects are all stored in the same .git | 11:34 |
| kanzure | i disagree | 11:35 |
| jmil | it's too fluid a design system to make hard links, and the reprap peeps don't know how to do that | 11:36 |
| jmil | makes it too complicated if its onlly 6 mb | 11:36 |
| jmil | and we can't enforce it for all reprap devs | 11:36 |
| kanzure | look, just because they are presently incompetent doesn't mean you need to lower yourself to their standards (or lack thereof) | 11:36 |
| jmil | because their focus is on getting shit done(TM) | 11:36 |
| kanzure | let's fix it | 11:37 |
| kanzure | no, that's not their focus ;) | 11:37 |
| jmil | well i've wasted three or four days on this stuff, you too | 11:37 |
| jmil | and they are incapable of learning | 11:37 |
| kanzure | so far this has been a learning experience for me :P | 11:37 |
| kanzure | in terms of "the reprap-dev team isn't actually what i thought it was" | 11:37 |
| jmil | what u mean? | 11:38 |
| kanzure | just the general lack of workflow management, release cycles, individual packages for separate parts, lack of assemblies | 11:38 |
| jmil | oh ya lol | 11:38 |
| jmil | it's completely disorganized because adrian is always so "busy" | 11:38 |
| jmil | i'm really getting fed up | 11:39 |
| jmil | gonna start my own repo i guess | 11:39 |
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| kanzure | i don't think you understand what i'm saying | 11:41 |
| kanzure | how is your private repo going to be any better than the current version? | 11:41 |
| jmil | in that i don't think i need to get devs to commit with me | 11:42 |
| kanzure | no, i mean the technical structure | 11:42 |
| jmil | i wanted to setup my own repo, if devs send me their code i'm happy to fold it in | 11:42 |
| kanzure | i'm not talking about social stuff here.. | 11:42 |
| jmil | oh | 11:42 |
| jmil | i don't care about techical structure *at all* | 11:43 |
| kanzure | oh god | 11:43 |
| jmil | i just want to be able to build reprap without having to go online | 11:43 |
| kanzure | really? | 11:43 |
| jmil | and keep records/copies of the design files | 11:43 |
| jmil | al | 11:43 |
| jmil | l of | 11:43 |
| jmil | them | 11:43 |
| kanzure | ok | 11:43 |
| kanzure | fenn: are you back yet? | 11:43 |
| jmil | and the rev history | 11:43 |
| jmil | if they designed it better, all the better. but adrian is like talking to a brick wall | 11:43 |
| jmil | he won't listen, always designing 30 years ahead of time | 11:44 |
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| kanzure | maybe wolfgang has some insight into qi hardware repo structuring | 12:26 |
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| kanzure | what is http://hymiegladstone.com/ | 12:37 |
| kanzure | http://www.hymiegladstone.com/hymiegla/GlassStruts.blend | 12:37 |
| kanzure | ok this looks like jmil's doing | 12:37 |
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| kanzure | world life sciences forum in france | 14:09 |
| kanzure | http://www.biovision.org/bv2011/biovision-nxt-overview.html | 14:09 |
| kanzure | http://biovision.ways.org/ | 14:09 |
| kanzure | march 2011 in lyon, france, guess we'll have Utopiah do that | 14:10 |
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| jrayhawk | jmil: i run git gc --aggressive nightly on the git repos on that server already. | 14:48 |
| jrayhawk | So do you want me to make the rest of those repositories available? | 14:50 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: i think you should be asking those questions to the people who have been emailing you | 15:07 |
| kanzure | i think, i'm not sure though | 15:07 |
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| jrayhawk | they say a lot of words :( | 15:37 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: do you know what they mean? | 16:30 |
| kanzure | because i don't :/ | 16:30 |
| kanzure | on the other hand i do think there are some serious issues here that aren't solved yet | 16:30 |
| kanzure | like hardware in .git repos- questions like when something should become its own dev repo | 16:30 |
| kanzure | for instance, there are two versions of the reprap (let's say huxley and mendel) that require "different" firmware | 16:31 |
| kanzure | but it so happens that the two versions of firmware are some sort of siblings on a family tree of revisions? and neither are at a stable release? | 16:32 |
| kanzure | heheh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Don%27t_abbreviate_as_Wiki.png | 16:35 |
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| kanzure | monitoring shroomery.org for diybio/biohacking posts can be fun | 17:05 |
| kanzure | http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13145568 | 17:06 |
| kanzure | guh? "I'm honestly about to undertake the first attempt at genetically modifying Ps. cubensis in the hobby(that I know of) and am sinking 1000's of dollars into this. Here's a pic I took with an electron microscope. " | 17:07 |
| kanzure | oh this is the same guy who was wanting to do bioluminescent cannabis | 17:07 |
| kanzure | http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13122801#13122801 | 17:07 |
| kanzure | cubensis, not cannabis, my bad | 17:07 |
| kanzure | zack denfeld geonomicgastronomy.com "glow-in-the-dark sushi" | 17:08 |
| Noahj | Everyone leaves their codian MCU open but nobody uses it | 17:11 |
| Noahj | http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Join+a+conference+using+ConferenceMe%22 | 17:12 |
| Noahj | I just interrupted some history class at some IP in Texas through ekiga | 17:13 |
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| Noahj | Mostly everything else is empty, or empty and password protected (mcu.whatever.whatever/conference_list.html gives a list of conferences) | 17:14 |
| Noahj | I know this is at best tangentially relevant, but I thought it was interesting | 17:14 |
| kanzure | you won't be thrown to the wolves | 17:15 |
| Noahj | I'd rather be thrown to the wolves than the grue | 17:16 |
| Noahj | er | 17:17 |
| Noahj | assuming grue is its own plural | 17:17 |
| kanzure | any last minute reasons not to call it lolcad? | 17:20 |
| epitron | did you poll people yet? | 17:31 |
| epitron | there were a lot of good names | 17:31 |
| kanzure | i haven't done a formal poll but nobody said no to lolcad | 17:37 |
| * katsmeow-afk isn't prone to lol'ing at cad programs, tho praps with a name like that, she might | 17:42 | |
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| kanzure | epitron: http://doodle.com/pspwheq7xits4kb7 | 17:58 |
| kanzure | there's the poll :P | 17:58 |
| epitron | thats way too many names | 17:58 |
| epitron | make it the top 5 | 17:58 |
| epitron | scantilycad | 17:59 |
| epitron | caddy | 17:59 |
| epitron | gnurbs | 18:00 |
| epitron | also, horizontal polls suck | 18:00 |
| epitron | :) | 18:00 |
| kanzure | agreed | 18:00 |
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| kanzure | epitron: how about now? | 18:08 |
| epitron | better | 18:08 |
| epitron | still sideways :) | 18:08 |
| kanzure | i don't think that's an option on this siet :( | 18:12 |
| kanzure | *i don't think fixing that is an option | 18:13 |
| JayDugger | How many votes does each participant have? | 18:14 |
| kanzure | as many as you want | 18:14 |
| kanzure | or i could limit it? | 18:14 |
| superkuh | Do you mind if I vote? (not being affiliated with the cad project at all...) | 18:15 |
| kanzure | superkuh: please do | 18:15 |
| kanzure | technically nobody else is affiliated with it either | 18:16 |
| kanzure | i want to figure out a name before i throw it into a repository with a name | 18:16 |
| kanzure | (at which point dustbin wants to have a look at it..) | 18:16 |
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| kanzure | meredith says: "I wish I could vote twice for lolcad" | 18:51 |
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| kanzure | yeah maybe i should have restricted the number of votes? | 19:08 |
| kanzure | i think i've made the decision harder not easier (tinycad, lolcad, pygmycad, scantilycad, cadabra, cadmium) | 19:09 |
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| splicer | ('cadmium' and 'cadabra' make the name difficult to find on google) | 19:33 |
| kanzure | agreed | 19:39 |
| kanzure | cadabra is also taken | 19:40 |
| Noahj | I think lolcad, scantilycad, and youcad are the coolest | 19:46 |
| Noahj | I voted even though I've no involvement with this project :-p | 19:46 |
| kanzure | "i like the .xml.gz format from pythoncad. unfortunately pythoncad's code is extremely verbose and hard to read, otherwise i would pick up development on it where the author left off" | 19:52 |
| kanzure | Noahj: it says you only voted on the latter two | 19:54 |
| Noahj | Oh yeah, I think lolcad's well-represented enough and like scantilycad just a bit more | 19:55 |
| kanzure | ah | 19:58 |
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| kanzure | http://openpcr.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Picture-5.png | 20:40 |
| kanzure | anyone know? | 20:40 |
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| kanzure | huh the madwifi devs had to sign an NDA? http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1782416&cid=33528042 | 21:37 |
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| jmil | kanzure jrayhawk cannot do git push --force when setting up newrepo because it is non-fast-forward | 22:38 |
| jmil | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/electronics | 22:38 |
| fenn | back | 22:44 |
| fenn | only 511 new emails | 22:44 |
| fenn | that's including mailing lists | 22:45 |
| kanzure | you owe me a cookie | 22:50 |
| kanzure | also don't let me make bets with you without specifying stakes | 22:50 |
| fenn | um, why is there a repo called 'electronics'? | 22:56 |
| kanzure | i don't know, i don't recall giving jmil sudo to even do that in the first place :P | 22:57 |
| kanzure | i'm pretty sure it's from reprap svn, a subfolder called "electronics" | 22:57 |
| jmil | yes | 22:57 |
| jmil | i don't have sudo | 22:57 |
| kanzure | jmil: remember how i said stuff about naming conventions earlier? | 22:57 |
| kanzure | reprap-electronics rather than electronics? | 22:57 |
| jmil | i did iwth the newrepo command | 22:57 |
| kanzure | ah right, piny stuff | 22:57 |
| kanzure | ok | 22:57 |
| jmil | but then we have reprap-reprap | 22:57 |
| jmil | and adrian will get pissed | 22:58 |
| kanzure | so what? reprap can be an exception to the reprap- naming convention | 22:58 |
| jmil | it can't because i can't delete the current reprap.git | 22:58 |
| jmil | lol | 22:58 |
| jmil | i don't have perms | 22:58 |
| jmil | and i can't checkout reprap.git anyway still | 22:58 |
| kanzure | why is there a folder called reprap under the reprap repo anyway | 22:58 |
| jmil | ask adrian | 22:58 |
| jmil | it's a total clusterfuck | 22:58 |
| kanzure | that's a stupid answer | 22:58 |
| jmil | i told you all | 22:58 |
| jmil | i don't know what much of the files are for | 22:59 |
| jmil | as i don't use his 5D firmware | 22:59 |
| jmil | sebastien also says the file structure only makes sense in adrian's head | 22:59 |
| jmil | but he won't go for a different organization | 22:59 |
| jmil | and if you reorganize more, then we lose even more of the revision history if we do separate repos | 23:00 |
| jmil | that's why we need one unified repo | 23:00 |
| jmil | no one listens | 23:00 |
| kanzure | i don't think you understand git-filter-branch | 23:00 |
| jmil | AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH | 23:00 |
| kanzure | you can completely keep revision history even if you split it | 23:00 |
| jmil | lucy, you got some 'splainin to do | 23:00 |
| kanzure | git filter branch is some ninja magic that basically goes through the entire git history and does something you specify, like, say, remove all files that aren't in the xyz subdir | 23:01 |
| kanzure | that's a poor way to explain it | 23:01 |
| kanzure | but basically you end up with a repository that has only the files you want and their revision history | 23:01 |
| jmil | so you say make separate branches instead of separate repos? | 23:01 |
| kanzure | uh, this doesn't have anything to do with branches to be honest | 23:02 |
| jmil | from the man: git-filter-branch - Rewrite branches | 23:02 |
| kanzure | like the master branch | 23:02 |
| kanzure | but it doesn't really matter which branch you're using | 23:02 |
| kanzure | you could have called your master branch whocares for all i care | 23:02 |
| jmil | anyway, i'm rerunning the git svn fetch command for each folder he wants from SVN | 23:03 |
| jmil | there are 7 of them | 23:03 |
| kanzure | "The rewritten history will have different object names for all the objects and will not converge with the original branch. You will not be able to easily push and distribute the rewritten branch on top of the original branch. Please do not use this command if you do not know the full implications, and avoid using it anyway, if a simple single commit would suffice to fix your problem." | 23:03 |
| jmil | if you can fix the ability to clone reprap.git then maybe you could figure it out and push it into a new .git? | 23:03 |
| kanzure | well at least they include the warning | 23:03 |
| jmil | but i told you the file structure makes no sense as it is | 23:04 |
| jmil | there is /electronics | 23:04 |
| jmil | and /reprap/electronics | 23:04 |
| jmil | and /darwin/electronics | 23:04 |
| jmil | etc. etc. | 23:04 |
| jmil | total clusterfuck | 23:05 |
| kanzure | you are troubling, sir | 23:05 |
| kanzure | i am going to sleep | 23:05 |
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| jmil | i'm just as new to these files as u are | 23:05 |
| jmil | no one will explain things to us | 23:05 |
| jmil | from reprap | 23:05 |
| jmil | because i think they don't understand what they even did themselves | 23:05 |
| kanzure | explain to me why you insist on preserving their awful ideas? | 23:06 |
| kanzure | s/preserving/perpetuating/ | 23:06 |
| kanzure | preservation/archiving is ok in my book | 23:06 |
| fenn | hm my irc/ directory got lost in the shuffle | 23:07 |
| kanzure | i'll throw your hdd on the stack of hdd for me to process | 23:08 |
| fenn | it was all duplicates but there were a lot of links pointing there | 23:08 |
| fenn | i've been assimilating all day | 23:08 |
| kanzure | your php-based wikis don't work btw | 23:08 |
| fenn | i know | 23:08 |
| kanzure | it's probably for the better? | 23:09 |
| fenn | i havent made any changes in years so i figured i'd just make a static html copy and let it mummify | 23:09 |
| kanzure | since we have diyhpluswiki.git we could just transfer over the content | 23:09 |
| kanzure | ok or that | 23:09 |
| fenn | jrayhawk doesn't want to run the php for some reason | 23:10 |
| kanzure | there's never a reason to run php :) | 23:10 |
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| kanzure | i could probably be convinced though :/ | 23:10 |
| fenn | is there a copy of the designfiles.org/dokuwiki somewhere easy? | 23:16 |
| kanzure | i have a copy on an external hdd next to me | 23:18 |
| fenn | it would be nice to have a homepage for skdb to point at | 23:24 |
| fenn | previously that was designfiles.org/dokuwiki/skdb | 23:24 |
| fenn | to point at in reference to skdb i mean | 23:25 |
| kanzure | i can point adl.serveftp.org to gnusha and upload the dokuwiki backup if that would help | 23:25 |
| kanzure | by point i mean dns stuff | 23:26 |
| fenn | yeah | 23:26 |
| dustbin | the reason to use php is that it allows for very quick development and prototyping of webpages | 23:26 |
| dustbin | less good for just about anything else | 23:26 |
| kanzure | flamewar mode on | 23:26 |
| fenn | i'd rather not | 23:26 |
| dustbin | heh | 23:26 |
| jmil | kanzure: you need a place to host designfiles.org? | 23:28 |
| kanzure | jmil: no | 23:29 |
| kanzure | long story short: matt is in germany and i shouldn't physically remove his machine from campus until he gets back | 23:30 |
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