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| archels | And arguably, aspects of the "Singularity Movement" may play into the fantasies of a few billionaires who have experienced a revolution in rising expectations over the last three decades... "Let's see, I've got the 14 houses, the 8 boats, the 10 private jets, the private Island in the Pacific, the surgically sculpted trophy wife... what else is there? I know. I'll live forever in a super-body on the moon with Branson!" | 04:18 |
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| drazak | dear DIYBio | 06:39 |
| drazak | some of you have no experience with this shit | 06:39 |
| drazak | and are consequentially talking out your ass | 06:39 |
| drazak | plase stop, it's annoying | 06:39 |
| drazak | thanks, drazak | 06:39 |
| drazak | thank god it's none of you | 06:39 |
| kristianpaul | is this DIYBio channel at all ? i was here because dpkg for stuff | 06:44 |
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| drazak | kristianpaul: a bunch of people here are on the diybio email list | 06:46 |
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| kristianpaul | okay me not :) | 06:52 |
| kanzure | kristianpaul: dpkg for diybio hardware :) | 07:01 |
| drazak | I often bitch about the list because people are absolute retards | 07:14 |
| kristianpaul | kanzure: ahh that explain some things | 07:26 |
| Utopiah | if anybody is in touch with the Software Mindfiles you should tell them about the freshly proposed http://smiy.sourceforge.net/cco/spec/cognitivecharacteristics.html | 07:29 |
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| kanzure | step via uml: http://www.exff.org/ | 07:41 |
| kanzure | hrm AP233 is sysml-equivalent? | 07:45 |
| kanzure | haha.. http://www.nist.gov/director/planning/upload/report02-5.pdf | 07:47 |
| kanzure | "economic impact of STEP".. claims of billions of dollars :P | 07:48 |
| kanzure | that's a fairly relevealing document.. | 07:53 |
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| Juul | anyone know anything about this? --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqwoo-O_GwM | 11:02 |
| kanzure | probably another RGS14 or telomere newsblitz | 11:12 |
| kanzure | nevermind | 11:13 |
| kanzure | Juul: look up sq1 | 11:16 |
| kanzure | oops, skq1 | 11:16 |
| kanzure | http://www.scienceagainstaging.com/ENG/index_ENG.html | 11:17 |
| kanzure | http://www.fightaging.org/archives/2010/09/paths-to-the-development-of-mitochondrially-targeted-antioxidants.php | 11:17 |
| kanzure | "The mitochondrially targeted antioxidant thing isn't out of the blue of course: we have researchers like Rabinovitch gene engineering mice to have extra catalase in their mitochondria," | 11:17 |
| kanzure | "and there's a company called Antipodean Pharmaceuticals who appear to be developing something chemically similar to SkQ1. I think there are sufficient groups producing results to think there's something interesting going on here." | 11:17 |
| kanzure | "this is still just slowing the mitochondrial contribution to aging (and apparently interfering beneficially in some other line items that involve mitochondria, cell wellness, and oxidative stress to obtain the wound healing result) -" | 11:17 |
| kanzure | http://longevity-science.blogspot.com/2010/06/scientific-meeting-in-moscow-from-homo.html or http://tinyurl.com/Moscow-2010 | 11:18 |
| kanzure | http://www.imminst.org/forum/topic/43820-russians-cure-aging/page__pid__430061#entry430061 | 11:18 |
| Juul | thanks :) | 11:19 |
| kanzure | also, his email address: | 11:19 |
| kanzure | Vladimir Skulachev <skulach@belozersky.msu.ru> | 11:19 |
| kanzure | if my pdf server was up i'd link you to a crapload of anti-oxidant theory-of-aging papers :/ | 11:20 |
| kanzure | er, or the "oxidative stress" theories | 11:20 |
| Juul | ok, i have "ending aging" somewhere, i'll se what it has to say | 11:20 |
| kanzure | there's also a conference he will probably be attending in palermo, italy on october 14 called "Seventh European Biogerontology Congress" | 11:22 |
| Juul | interesting | 11:28 |
| kanzure | Juul: did you see http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/images/aubrey.jpg | 11:36 |
| Juul | haha! | 11:37 |
| Juul | no i didn't see that :) | 11:37 |
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| splicer | I've wondered why there aren't animals with extreme lifespans. If those lifespans are achievable with a hack it seems to me evolution/natural selection would already have produced that hack in some animal. | 13:02 |
| splicer | Skulachev gives a reason why not: "Death caused by aging clears the population of ancestors and frees space for progeny carrying new useful traits." | 13:03 |
| archels | Animals with too long a lifespan adapt too slowly? | 13:04 |
| splicer | and the parents compete with the children for resources? | 13:04 |
| archels | yes | 13:05 |
| archels | well, I guess those are independent | 13:05 |
| archels | Skulachev captured both in his statement. | 13:06 |
| splicer | there has to be some evolutionary reason they dont exist if the reason isn't that it's just too difficult. | 13:06 |
| splicer | yeah | 13:06 |
| splicer | I havent heard a better explanation | 13:06 |
| archels | Occam's razor. :) | 13:07 |
| splicer | darwin ftw | 13:08 |
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| kanzure | hi bruns | 13:30 |
| kanzure | again. | 13:30 |
| bruns | hai | 13:31 |
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| kanzure | bruns: so you're giving a presentation to a prof on your schemes | 13:35 |
| bruns | well, I have been discussing it with him for a while | 13:36 |
| bruns | and this isn't even related to the class itself | 13:36 |
| bruns | but he said he will be able to help me get the actual research process started if I can show him a plausable theory | 13:36 |
| kanzure | i don't mean to be rude but a theory of what, exactly | 13:37 |
| bruns | that I can make the same process work on at least an amphibian | 13:39 |
| kanzure | and the process is the reversion to the earlier stage in life? | 13:40 |
| bruns | yeah, mainly the earlier stage in life being puberty | 13:40 |
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| bruns | kanzure: any opinions good/bad? I know most people kinda take the idea as a joke when presented in the manner that I do but it is more so just the way I type. | 13:43 |
| kanzure | it's a joke to assume the one gene will turn mammals into embryos or whatever, yes | 13:43 |
| kanzure | but, picking a different target is a good idea for now | 13:44 |
| bruns | lul, I am not trying to turn people into embryos. Also | 13:44 |
| kanzure | do you want to present to him the grand vision or something practical | 13:44 |
| kanzure | "something practical" would be like.. isolating any proteins that are produced as a result of the jellyfish's gene being transcribed or something | 13:44 |
| kanzure | and then doing crystallography (if this is not already done) | 13:44 |
| kanzure | actually, it might already be done, but you should still propose it anyway | 13:44 |
| bruns | well, the grand vision. then explain where to start with something practical | 13:45 |
| kanzure | if you propose it he will see that you understand the basic concept of, say, crystallography and that you know what a practical "first" step looks like | 13:45 |
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| jrayhawk | Seems like using other cnidaria would be a much less retarded approach. Trying it in amphibia is just shooting at the moon. | 16:25 |
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| -!- Topic for #hplusroadmap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n39RK4inzg http://designfiles.org/~bryan/hplus-summit-2009/ http://heybryan.org/ | 16:37 | |
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| kanzure | why not untar the gulf? | 18:02 |
| kanzure | tar -xvf gulf.tar | 18:02 |
| eridu | it's full of tarballs now | 18:04 |
| eridu | so you'd have to gunzip it too, I bet | 18:04 |
| eridu | unless the people who tarred it up were the type of asshole to use bzip or lzma | 18:04 |
| QuantumG | omg, it's full of tarballs | 18:05 |
| QuantumG | don't have the same ring to it as "omg, it's full of rars" | 18:05 |
| kanzure | tmccabe37: are you around? can i have access to the leadership list | 18:06 |
| tmccabe37 | Hey Bryan | 18:07 |
| tmccabe37 | I think you're on the leadership list | 18:07 |
| tmccabe37 | leadership@humanityplus.org | 18:07 |
| kanzure | who is subscribed to that? | 18:07 |
| kanzure | i need to send out an email about the gada prize to the board peeps | 18:08 |
| kanzure | kartik is getting ancy :) | 18:08 |
| tmccabe37 | Yeah, send it to leadership@humanityplus.org | 18:08 |
| tmccabe37 | Oops, I was wrong, you weren't added (someone told me you were) | 18:09 |
| tmccabe37 | Adding you right now | 18:10 |
| kanzure | yay | 18:10 |
| tmccabe37 | What's your email? | 18:10 |
| kanzure | kanzure@gmail.com | 18:10 |
| tmccabe37 | Added, thanks | 18:12 |
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| kanzure | hackerspace video series http://www.vimby.com/video/sponsor/us/all/detail/10908/Take_on_the_Machine_Episode_One/ | 19:35 |
| fenn | i'm so pasting that aubrey pic over the (genuine) shepard fairey graffiti outside langton | 19:41 |
| kanzure | i knew you weren't dead :o | 19:44 |
| fenn | who said i was dead? | 19:45 |
| fenn | i've been keeping my lifelog in these "Institute of Higher Yearning" notebooks i got at burning man, so less likely to randomly be at a computer | 19:46 |
| kanzure | i ran into an old 2006 thing of you popping into #brlcad to ask about ISO 10303 | 19:47 |
| fenn | my how the time flies | 19:47 |
| kanzure | you know they have a standard (10303-34) for how to read their standard (10303-35) for testing standards-compliant AP203? | 19:48 |
| QuantumG | I wonder what I gave a shit about in 2006 | 19:48 |
| kanzure | fenn: so it turns out this is the steptools.com guy (who has been doing 10303 stuff since 1988) | 19:48 |
| kanzure | http://dave.org/ | 19:48 |
| fenn | dave.org doesn't resolve | 19:49 |
| fenn | ah, www.dave.org | 19:49 |
| kanzure | who the heck has "dave.org" anyway.. that's like having "bob.com" | 19:49 |
| fenn | "My site is a peaceful, unchanging sanctuary amidst the furious turmoil of the web. You are happy. You don't want to leave. You can't imagine any other place." | 19:51 |
| fenn | i wonder how he managed to stay so clean while sitting on the playa | 19:51 |
| kanzure | who the hell meditates in a desert anyway | 19:51 |
| fenn | 50,000 of my closest friends | 19:52 |
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| kanzure | he's a nethack player.. i'm going to see if i can't abduct him | 19:53 |
| fenn | the ONLY way to | 19:53 |
| fenn | rid yourself of this virus is to DELETE EVERY MESSAGE IN YOUR MAILBOX | 19:53 |
| fenn | WITHOUT OPENING THEM. | 19:53 |
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| QuantumG | I was playing Minecraft on the weekend | 19:54 |
| QuantumG | addictive little game.. such a shame it's written in Java and therefore is almost unplayable | 19:55 |
| kanzure | it turns out tc184-sc4 / ISO 10303 does a lot of their work via bugzilla | 19:55 |
| kanzure | http://locke.dcnicn.com/bugzilla/iso10303/show_bug.cgi?id=3745 | 19:55 |
| kanzure | (loffredo shows up on that bugzilla instalation) | 19:56 |
| kanzure | *installation | 19:56 |
| fenn | Dr. Strange Foot, or "how I learned to stop worrying and start stabbing people" | 19:56 |
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| kanzure | if anyone has actually written an EXPRESS-generated STEP parser then why don't any of the CAD tools spit out an actual error message whenn you give them an invalid file, instead of just failing miserably? | 21:19 |
| kanzure | i think this is a scam | 21:19 |
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| kanzure | fenn: any input on what the rules should be for humanity+ to take the gada prize? judging criteria, that sort of thing | 21:23 |
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| kanzure | "Who was that professor, who derived all these new stem cell lines in his basement lab during the bush era and gave them out free?" | 22:13 |
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| kanzure | biocurious article http://www.medgadget.com/archives/2010/09/30000_given_by_200_people_to_open_biotechnology_hackerspace.html | 22:19 |
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