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| fenn | kanzure are you going to openhardwaresummit? | 05:34 |
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| ybit | anyone know of a free service where i can briefly load ~700gb of data and retrieve about a day later? | 06:42 |
| ybit | i'm having way too many issues with the filesystem on the server and i need to offload the data and reformat | 06:42 |
| fenn | i suggest buying a 1TB hard drive | 06:44 |
| fenn | http://www.amazon.com/Barracuda-7200-12-internal-SATA-300-Refurbished/dp/B0024FAN24 | 06:45 |
| kanzure | fenn: i've been on the fence about going to open hardware summit :( | 06:48 |
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| kanzure | i mean, i don't really want to support the buglabs/medialab/adafruit/make clique | 06:48 |
| kanzure | however, i should probably be there :/ | 06:49 |
| archels | haha, that's like music to my ears, kanzure. | 06:51 |
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| ybit | grr, did anyone say anything? :( | 06:51 |
| ybit | comcast, you suck | 06:52 |
| archels | < fenn> i suggest buying a 1TB hard drive | 06:52 |
| ybit | ah | 06:52 |
| kanzure | ybit: also, check the logs | 06:57 |
| ybit | 10% packet loss to google :\ | 06:59 |
| ybit | hrm... | 07:00 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning everyone. | 07:26 |
| dustbin | morning | 07:41 |
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| Utopiah | didn't know http://www.thoughtcast.org | 08:22 |
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| kanzure | open hardware summit is streaming | 09:06 |
| kanzure | http://ustre.am/oaVr | 09:06 |
| kanzure | twitter hashtag is #openhwsummit and #openhardware | 09:07 |
| kanzure | https://twitter.com/openhwsummit | 09:07 |
| kanzure | schedule: http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/schedule/ | 09:08 |
| Utopiah | thanks | 09:08 |
| kanzure | http://lists.openhardwaresummit.org/listinfo.cgi/updates-openhardwaresummit.org | 09:08 |
| kanzure | "Agressive and constant publication is the ultimate weapon a society has agaisnt patents - @wilbanks #openhardware" | 09:10 |
| kanzure | well that's awful advice :P | 09:10 |
| kanzure | patents are a trump card in comparison | 09:10 |
| kanzure | i'm glad they got bruce perens there.. maybe he will knock some sense into them | 09:10 |
| kanzure | "@Adafruit warns against claiming your product is #OpenHardware while also trying to impose restrictions." | 09:12 |
| kanzure | so have they actually come up with a legal tool? i thought that was the point of all their hype :) | 09:12 |
| * kanzure checks http://freedomdefined.org/OSHW | 09:12 | |
| kanzure | http://freedomdefined.org/Talk:OSHW | 09:14 |
| archels | This is more interesting -> http://oracle.com.edgesuite.net/ivt/4000/8104/9236/13239/presentation_external_flash_480x272/default.htm | 09:16 |
| kanzure | the link has the words "oracle" "flash" and "suite" is there any incentive for me to click | 09:16 |
| archels | Kurzweil @ JavaOne conference | 09:17 |
| archels | T+15min | 09:17 |
| kanzure | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/open-hardware-summit-2010 | 09:17 |
| kanzure | hahahah " | 09:18 |
| kanzure | Crowley: What we try to do at Eyebeam is make processes transparent " | 09:18 |
| kanzure | oh man.. this is why i didn't go :) | 09:18 |
| kanzure | i think this is a reasonable way to frame things: "Wilbanks: OSHW.. copyright, patent, trade secret, trademark, or sui generis??" | 09:19 |
| kanzure | " | 09:19 |
| kanzure | and it looks like their tweeter doesn't pay attention: "Wilbanks just dropped "open-source biology" ... another summit in order?" | 09:19 |
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| archels | Mmm standard Kurzweil talk, nothing new. | 09:36 |
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| kanzure | diybio-washington update http://diybiodc.org/2010/09/still-around-working-on-other-things/ | 09:57 |
| kanzure | http://www.diybiosea.org/2010/09/gm-salmon-up-for-fda-approval.htmlhttp://www.diybiosea.org/2010/09/gm-salmon-up-for-fda-approval.htmlhttp://www.diybiosea.org/2010/09/gm-salmon-up-for-fda-approval.htmlhttp://www.diybiosea.org/2010/09/gm-salmon-up-for-fda-approval.htmlhttp://www.diybiosea.org/2010/09/gm-salmon-up-for-fda-approval.html | 09:58 |
| kanzure | blah | 09:58 |
| kanzure | http://www.diybiosea.org/2010/09/gm-salmon-up-for-fda-approval.html | 09:58 |
| kanzure | http://jcom.sissa.it/archive/09/03/Jcom0903(2010)E/Jcom0903(2010)E.pdf mentions biocurious and diybio | 09:58 |
| JayDugger | Good night, eveyone. | 10:00 |
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| uniqanomaly_ | i guess they will some day push for fda approval of every food | 10:03 |
| uniqanomaly_ | 'cause everything organic have *genes* in it | 10:03 |
| uniqanomaly_ | in the name of public safety | 10:04 |
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| uniqanomaly_ | health! | 10:04 |
| uniqanomaly_ | they care so much for health yet drugs approval take 10 years | 10:05 |
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| Utopiah | uniqanomaly_: Im not an expert but maybe side-effects and combinations are not that easy to test? | 10:07 |
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| kanzure | national fablab act of 2010: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-6003 | 10:08 |
| kanzure | full text: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:h6003: | 10:08 |
| uniqanomaly_ | Utopiah: of course they're not | 10:08 |
| uniqanomaly_ | Utopiah: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634# | 10:10 |
| uniqanomaly_ | "He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither" | 10:11 |
| uniqanomaly_ | Utopiah: herbs and health suppliments under codex alimentarius are drugs which need to be strictly controlled | 10:13 |
| uniqanomaly_ | so much for freedom | 10:13 |
| uniqanomaly_ | well not drugs | 10:17 |
| uniqanomaly_ | just become strictly regulated ;> | 10:17 |
| uniqanomaly_ | who cares | 10:17 |
| kanzure | can you guys take a look at the humanity+ gada prize guidelines before i stamp it / ship i? | 10:35 |
| kanzure | https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1lJ-jHXRQObdYHtPwdKFPTqfmknkc2a93ytLHtbjyZto&hl=en&authkey=CJSbrm0 | 10:35 |
| kanzure | pdf (old/first version): http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/hplusgada.pdf | 10:36 |
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| uniqanomaly_ | http://vitaminlawyerhealthfreedom.blogspot.com/2010/09/s510-companion-bill-s3767-to.html WTF | 10:58 |
| uniqanomaly_ | "10 year jail term for anyone who sells what the govt later decides was "adulterated" or "misbranded" food" | 10:59 |
| uniqanomaly_ | :D | 10:59 |
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| phryk | Sha-Bam. | 11:16 |
| * phryk can haz be Magneto :3 | 11:16 | |
| archels | Sorry, being transhuman does not mean you get to break the laws of physics. | 11:18 |
| phryk | Nah | 11:48 |
| phryk | I have a Magnet in my finger, now ;P | 11:48 |
| archels | Yeah? For how long? | 11:52 |
| phryk | Permanently. | 11:53 |
| phryk | Or do you mean since when? | 11:53 |
| phryk | That would be since today ;P | 11:53 |
| dustbin | nice | 11:53 |
| dustbin | where is it in your finger | 11:53 |
| panax | is it rare earth | 11:56 |
| panax | i heard of someone doing that and after a while the body absorbed all the iron out of the magnet and it shattered | 11:56 |
| archels | phryk: Yeah, I meant since when. Like panax said, I heard some bad things about longetivity. | 12:00 |
| phryk | That was longer ago | 12:00 |
| phryk | with the prototypes | 12:00 |
| panax | maybe if you have a protective coating over it it would last longer | 12:01 |
| archels | Ah, alright. I wore a magnetic ring for a few months, but had to take it off because it was irritating my skin. | 12:01 |
| archels | I hope you fare better. :) | 12:04 |
| phryk | there are two coatings | 12:04 |
| phryk | gold and then silicon | 12:04 |
| panax | yeah gold will probably last | 12:05 |
| phryk | silicone, too | 12:08 |
| archels | Gold being the failsafe? :) | 12:11 |
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| kanzure | "China mines 93 percent of the world's rare earth minerals, and more than 99 percent of the world's supply of some of the most prized rare earths" | 14:08 |
| kanzure | i bet they really meant to say "93 percent of the world's output of rare earth minerals" | 14:08 |
| kanzure | nobody dares mine for crap in the US any more | 14:08 |
| kanzure | "The House Committee on Science and Technology is scheduled to review a detailed bill to subsidize the revival of the American rare earths industry and the House Armed Services Committee is scheduled to review the American military dependence on Chinese rare earth elements" | 14:09 |
| kanzure | does anyone know what that bill is for "revival of the American rare earths industry"? | 14:09 |
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| kanzure | hehe http://www.shadyurl.com/ | 14:28 |
| dustbin | ya it's kinda fantastic | 14:32 |
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| kanzure | aha: | 14:41 |
| kanzure | http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h4866/show | 14:41 |
| kanzure | "Rare Earths Supply-Chain Technology and Resources Transformation Act of 2010 or the RESTART Act" | 14:42 |
| kanzure | "Rare Earths and Critical Materials Revitalization Act of 2010." http://science.house.gov/publications/hearings_markups_details.aspx?newsid=2910 | 14:42 |
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| kanzure | why do these exist? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_industry_trade_groups_in_the_United_States | 15:30 |
| kanzure | wikipedia claims "There are over 7,600 national trade associations in the United States, with a large number (approximately 2,000) headquartered in the Washington, DC area." and cites National Trade and Professional Associations (2008), 43rd ed., ISBN 978 1-880873-56-4 for that | 15:31 |
| uniqanomaly | for influencing public policies | 15:31 |
| uniqanomaly | 'influencing' | 15:32 |
| kanzure | does each one have member companies? | 15:32 |
| kanzure | i mean, that's a lot of business.. | 15:32 |
| uniqanomaly | 'influencing public policies' reminded me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_vaccine stuff | 15:35 |
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| uniqanomaly | WHO corrupted by pharmaceutical companies | 15:36 |
| uniqanomaly | a.k.a. 'WHO overreacted' | 15:37 |
| superkuh | ... even the most grand reaction to influenza is not an overreaction. | 15:37 |
| uniqanomaly | 229 mln doses of H1N1 vaccines bought by US gov. | 15:37 |
| uniqanomaly | superkuh: that's most funny part | 15:37 |
| uniqanomaly | they have bunch of viruses & vaccines & vaccines monopoly | 15:38 |
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| kanzure | i'm not sure meetlog.txt was designed with this sort of situation in mind | 16:08 |
| kanzure | http://www.aia-aerospace.org/about_aia/board_of_governors/ | 16:08 |
| kanzure | i mean, putting all these people from 7000 organizations into the "knowledge:" section or something is kinda silly | 16:08 |
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| fenn | 'humanity+ will assemble no less than one individual to contact...' lol | 19:07 |
| fenn | you could use different tags for different kinds of knowledge, i.e. "stalk" or "random douchebag" | 19:11 |
| fenn | re: shattered magnets, quinn is staying in the langton guest room and seems to be doing just fine :P | 19:13 |
| fenn | roommate "must be willing to meow or is cool with meowing." but they're getting a german shepherd? | 19:19 |
| kanzure | fenn: gadaplus.pdf help/ranting/ideas would be cool | 19:20 |
| kanzure | O_o my uncle-in-law emailed me a clay shirky ted talk. hrm. | 19:21 |
| kanzure | quinn norton? | 19:22 |
| fenn | ya | 19:40 |
| fenn | is the pdf different from the google doc? | 19:41 |
| kanzure | pdf is older | 19:50 |
| kanzure | google doc has adrian bowyer / reprap core team comments | 19:50 |
| kanzure | sorry, i was watching gaston http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhG9hKiplfQ | 19:50 |
| kanzure | 2010-04-13: Quinn Norton <quinn@quinnnorton.com>: ["eeg", "body hacking", "neurosky"] | 19:51 |
| kanzure | wtf i've only talked with him onnnnnce | 19:51 |
| kanzure | *once | 19:51 |
| jrayhawk | kanzure are you ever resentful of someone saying something flippant on IRC because it means you then have to go fill out their name | 19:59 |
| kanzure | fuck you | 20:03 |
| jrayhawk | especially a stupid largely rhetorical question | 20:04 |
| jrayhawk | Have you scripted irssi or a log parser add people for you automatically? | 20:14 |
| kanzure | ostensibly i did at one point but it's gone / not working / a pile of crap | 20:15 |
| kanzure | and a gmail and pidgin plugin | 20:15 |
| kanzure | i'd like to have a tool where i can just paste a wall of text or a link and have it extract out the names, addresses, phone numbers, etc. | 20:16 |
| kanzure | name recognition shouldn't be too hard.. | 20:16 |
| kanzure | i'd also pay for a service where a part of facebook's social network is revealed to me in some meaningful context | 20:20 |
| kanzure | like a certain target up to a certain degree (like n=4) so that i get their local network details | 20:20 |
| fenn | quinn is demonstrably female, for future reference http://www.flickr.com/photos/eeetthaannn/5011462996/ | 20:33 |
| kanzure | good to know | 20:36 |
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| kanzure | fenn: did you see that anissimov's screen name used to be darkvegeta26? | 20:41 |
| fenn | good to know | 20:48 |
| fenn | i will expose his true motives once and for all! | 20:48 |
| kanzure | i thought it was funny :( | 20:51 |
| kanzure | we're not known for being anti-dbz anyway http://acceleratingfuture.com/hplusroadmapwiki/Myostatin_DBZ_project | 20:52 |
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| fenn | btw, re: scouters, http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/09/15/hands-on-with-the-lumus-see-through-wearable-display-real-3d-real-augmented-reality/ | 21:02 |
| fenn | their helmet is so dorktastic, i wonder why they didn't bother to make a scouter demo | 21:02 |
| kanzure | heh i was just reading the scouters thing again :) | 21:03 |
| kanzure | http://www.myfavoritegames.com/dragonball-z/Info/Scouters.htm | 21:03 |
| kanzure | 'Scouters - were created by Frieza's scientists. It was made to help determine how strong a person was. It's worn around one eye and can detect power levels from miles away. It gives the power level in the form of a number, and so they compare the number to their own to see where they stand if they were to fight that person.' | 21:03 |
| kanzure | fenn: yeah that's just asking to be a scouter demo | 21:04 |
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| kanzure | tito is asking about inventory management stuff for biocurious | 21:44 |
| kanzure | i wonder if he will listen | 21:44 |
| kanzure | i guess the better idea is to tell joseph instead :D | 21:58 |
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| kanzure | hi kive | 22:10 |
| jrayhawk | Oh, I thought that darkvegeta26@aol.com thing was a joke. | 22:29 |
| jrayhawk | http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/works/transhumanisttips.htm "transhumanist tip: do not use the name darkvegeta26" | 22:30 |
| jrayhawk | hard-earned wisdom | 22:30 |
| fenn | hmm, randomly ran across this sleep optimization project just now http://beddata.com/blog/ | 22:31 |
| fenn | how do i know of tom igoe? | 22:32 |
| fenn | ah nice, Extended Environments Markup Language (eeml.org) | 22:37 |
| fenn | seems like just the xml tags would take up a lot of flash in your microcontroller's ram | 22:38 |
| fenn | Because of its focus on ease of interoperability between software platforms the Danish government has made the use of IFC format(s) compulsory for publicly aided building projects. | 22:43 |
| fenn | IfcProcess is the base class for processes and is subdivided into tasks, events, and procedures. Processes may have durations and be scheduled to occur at specific time periods. Processes may be sequenced such that a successor task may start after a predecessor task finishes, following the Critical Path Method. Processes may be nested into sub-processes for summary roll-up. | 22:44 |
| fenn | it also has stuff about geometry, "resources" such as labor and equipment, and even (supposedly) revision control | 22:45 |
| fenn | mostly aimed at architectural cad | 22:45 |
| kanzure | Tom Igoe: [open source hardware, open source hardware definition, arduino, new york university] | 22:46 |
| kanzure | associate professor | 22:46 |
| kanzure | "making things talk" | 22:47 |
| kanzure | danish govt has done a lot of weird things with formats.. like demanding quickfix for financial transactions, and going ahead with the Oo.O templates and ebxml stuff | 22:48 |
| fenn | http://bimserver.org/about/features/ | 22:49 |
| fenn | bimserver is running gpl code | 22:49 |
| fenn | must be pretty new, mailing list starts on august 2010 | 22:52 |
| fenn | is it just me or is it linkedin request season? | 23:20 |
| kanzure | i saw bimserver a few days ago through something else.. didn't bother to post the link because it seemed "relevant but not quite relevant" | 23:22 |
| kanzure | why do people use linkedin, anyway | 23:23 |
| QuantumG | because other people do | 23:45 |
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