2010-10-02.log

--- Log opened Sat Oct 02 00:00:18 2010
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Utopiahanybody stopped typing and rely instead entirely on videolog and automated transcripts?00:42
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kanzure"Fulfillment meeting place has been wired to irc.quickfox.net #thefulfillment"05:53
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epitronkanzure: what do you like about toudou? that viacom can't touch it? :)07:46
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Utopiahbtw does SeaStanding in its wiki of wherever have documents about the legal aspect of state creation?07:47
Utopiahmaybe there should be a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet equivalent targetting hackerspaces ;)08:16
fennfirst we would have to have a hackerspace OS09:40
fenncan you abuse google voice to work as dictation software?09:40
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kanzureraelians starting to pick up on diygenomics :/ http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rael-science-select/message/20949?var=110:02
kanzurefenn: if not, twilio.com has a transcription service10:03
kanzurepeople have told me there's other web-based solutions out there but nobody ever ends up giving me a link10:03
kanzurei just want something i can dial into so i can put my phone on "speaker mode" and just listen to our conversation10:03
kanzurei keep forgetting to copy http://sourceforge.net/projects/jcline/10:11
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fenni don't want a service anyway, i want something running constantly on my mobile computer10:49
joshcryerwtf is #thefulfillment?10:50
kanzurejoshcryer: cosmeng.org's chat room thing.10:52
kanzurehow do i convert a random polyline/polygon to a set of b-splines (or just one)10:55
joshcryerkanzure, it sounded earily like some kind of zeitgeist movement thing.10:55
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joshcryerAnd to just give a non-useful answer, I don't know. Heh.10:56
joshcryerAsk me in 6 months.10:56
joshcryerTechnically that is going to result in smoothing though so it would probably be some sort of subdivision and smoothing I think.10:57
kanzure"Bspline approximation of circle arc and straight line for pocket machining (2010)" aw man, published in 2010?10:57
kanzureif you draw a straight line in heekscad or solidworks, and make a sketch out of it, then extrude, if it doesn't convert it to a b-spline then are they honestly a pure-NURBS implementation?10:58
fennno but who cares10:59
fenni dont think anybody ever said either was pure nurbs10:59
kanzureif you have a b-spline of a 2D drawing you can easily extrude it into a three-dimensional surface11:03
kanzureoh.. i guess, in the cases where you have something other than a circle or arc, or a curved edge, you just have straightlines11:05
kanzurelike for making up the profile of a weird shape- which just extrudes to a smooth square/rectangular surface (easy enough)11:05
kanzurefor other curves, you can do bspline approximation11:06
kanzurefor circles, it's something like uknots = [0, 0, 0, 0.25, 0.25, 0.5, 0.5, 0.75, 0.75, 1., 1, 1] and [0, r22, 1, r22, 0, -r22, -1, -r22, 0] (where r22=sqrt(2)/2)11:06
kanzureControl point adjustment for b-spline curve approximation http://i.cs.hku.hk/GraphicsGroup/publications/Control%20point%20adjustment%20for%20B-spline%20curve%20approximation.pdf11:08
kanzure"Pottmann et al. propose an iterative optimization scheme for approximating a target curve with a B-spline curve based on square distance minimization, or SDM."11:08
kanzurealthough i can't imagine the approximation will be exact for curves defined as some combination of trigonometric functions (which, presumably, have a one-to-one mapping as a b-spline)11:10
kanzurehmm there aren't many cases i can think of where a CAD user is defining his own b-spline or 'exact curve' anyway, so maybe this is all moot11:15
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phrykThe TENS I ordered arrived yesterday.11:34
phrykFinally I can automate masturbation.11:35
archelswat11:37
phrykthat got you interested, right? :311:38
phrykarchels: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TENS11:39
archelsWell, I've experimented with that kind of technology as a means for communication, and it was pretty unconfortable.11:39
phryktens for communication?11:41
archelspatterned voltage stobes11:41
phrykah11:41
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phrykI'm using it, or at least try to use it to fix my hand joints11:42
archelsah, how does that work?11:43
phrykalso isn't patterned voltage exactly how computer networks work?11:43
phrykyou stimulate the muscles that make your hand joint move11:44
phrykwith a few hz11:44
phrykso the joint is used and produces more "lubricant"11:44
phrykDunno the english term for it...11:44
archelsAnd that works?11:44
phrykyep11:44
phrykyou can also just make shitloads of small movements with your joints...11:45
phrykbut with a tens it's much more convenient11:45
phrykyou don't need to think about it and can take a frequency you cannot normally reach with normal neural impulses11:45
archelsI see, nifty11:46
phrykyep11:47
phrykand the technology is  simple as hell11:47
archelsHow many channels does it have?11:47
phrykmine? two11:47
phrykonly used one so far, thoughh11:47
archelsI think those are galvanically isolated, right?11:47
phrykyou mean they are independent from each  other?11:48
archelsin a way, yes11:48
archelsI've never been able to find the schematic of a commercial unit.11:49
phrykwell mine cann oonly set the intensity independently so that mmight be the case11:49
phryki think all you need is a capacitator, a quartz (and soomething to change the freq) and a poti to control intensity11:51
phrykbut i have basically no knowledge of electronics at  all11:51
archelswell, it's a little more complicated than that.11:52
archelsIf you should want to take photographs of the internals, I would be eternally grateful. :p11:52
phrykhave no cam atm11:52
phrykwant to get one in nov. maybe11:52
phrykbut the unit was just 25EUR 11:53
archelsThat's amazingly cheap.11:53
phrykyep11:53
phrykif it was over 50 buucks i wouldnt have ordered it ;)11:54
phrykmhh 11:54
phrykmy muscles seem to have some kind of limit of ~10hz to them11:54
phrykif i set it any higher they don't fully relax before the next pulse comes11:55
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kanzurehttp://healthland.time.com/2010/10/01/building-a-brighter-kid-consider-ivf/ url speaks for itself12:21
kanzurei wonder if they filtered the data based on parents average income or something (IVF ain't cheap)12:22
archelsThe article is not very quantitative.12:22
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fennhas anybody actually gotten julius/sphinx to output anything at all, even bad text?12:26
fennor any linux based speech to text software12:26
kanzurefestival tends to work for me..12:31
kanzureoops wrong way12:32
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* fenn mumbles http://cyborgcamp.com/13:05
fennand, uh, somehow cyborgcamp.org is totally different13:07
kanzurei received a mysterious box of DVDs with a piece of paper13:07
kanzurethe paper says: http://pastebin.com/qif504sn13:07
archelsHow many DVDs?13:09
kanzureheh EmbryoFreeze_ThawProtocol.pdf13:11
kanzureabout 613:11
kanzuregee i should really get /papers back up13:11
kanzure"Methods in Molecular Biology - 248 - Antibody Engineering, Methods and Protocols.pdf"13:15
fennwhy dont we have tagging filesystems yet13:15
kanzurebecause paul is too busy chasing windmills13:16
uniqanomaly_fenn: check out nepomuk, beagle & strigi projects13:18
fennfilesystem, not additional clusterfuck layer13:23
archelshaha13:23
fennseriously, does anybody use nepomuk?13:24
archelsfenn: I've begun to use a web album for tagging files.13:24
kanzuredid you get vmware working?13:39
fennno13:42
fenni couldnt even install solidworks on windows13:42
kanzurehuh? wouldn't vmware have to work first13:42
* fenn buries self in shame13:42
fenndual boot13:42
kanzureshame on you13:42
kanzurewhat was the solidworks problem?13:42
fenndunno, the installer wouldn't run ("terminated with unusual error code" or something)13:43
fenndownloaded different version in meanwhile, havent tried it yet13:43
kanzurewhat version of solidworks or from where did you get it13:43
fenn2010, pirate bay13:43
kanzurethere's a few different copies on gnusha and neuroblastoma/teluremia13:44
kanzuretuleremia13:44
fennso that's where i heard that word13:44
fennsame iso13:46
fennthanks anyway13:47
fennoo i can try CATIA instead13:47
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fennwell, now i really have no particular reason to use solidworks13:49
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fenni wonder if i should try to upload all those mp3's13:49
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kanzure"Certainly.  I started work on porting the entire SW API to Java, but the  project stalled due to my lack of detailed knowledge of COM   (particularly threading).  I have 95% of the code written, and was in  the process of testing, when a nasty COM related problem surfaced that I .."16:31
kanzurehm16:31
kanzurethat was Jim Sculley and abraxis.com16:31
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kanzurehi wolfspraul 18:02
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ybitfenn: this is the copy of solidworks i've been using: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5201449/SolidWorks_201020:57
ybitruns in virtualbox winxp session just fine20:57
ybitand i think a lot of people use nepomuk without realizing it.. 20:58
kanzurewhile we're at it, the iso on gnusha is different from the one on tuleremia21:46
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