2010-10-07.log

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moripiNicE link. 04:46
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kanzurehttp://lists.openhardwaresummit.org/listinfo.cgi/definition-openhardwaresummit.org05:39
panaxhttp://singularityhub.com/2010/10/06/videos-of-robot-controlled-by-rat-brain-amazing-technology-still-moving-forward/05:48
maskedyer moving forward05:51
maskedor05:51
maskedrats are getting smarter05:51
maskedreminds me i need a rovio for my epoc05:52
panaxrats the first to become the singularity will take over05:52
maskedcockroaches will inherit the fiber05:53
maskedthis also reminds me05:53
maskedi have a arduino microcontroller here05:53
maskedand lots of ubnt rocket's with usb05:54
maskedneed to rig it up05:54
maskedto a 100km rc car05:54
maskednot need as such, been meaning to05:54
maskedi'm not concerned about rats, we can already remote control them05:59
maskedhttp://www.thoughtware.tv/videos/show/93-Human-2-05:59
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kanzuredarpa thing is starting.07:54
maskedwhat darpa thing is that?08:08
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kanzurei feel like ray kurzweil is going to jump out of the shadows09:40
kanzureand whack these DARPA guys with the law of accelerating returns09:40
kanzurethey are fairly competent about this problem space, i wasn't expecting this09:41
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kanzurewtf they have a 3D visualization of the kernel source tree over five years of development09:44
maskedhow's it generated?09:48
Utopiahmaybe http://sourceforge.net/projects/gitstat/09:49
Utopiahthen processing or sth09:50
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maskedall the kernels secret spices were from one tree?!09:50
Utopiahbtw on the same topic http://vis.cs.ucdavis.edu/~ogawa/research/storylines/09:53
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kanzurehaha "we're trying to find as many autistic savants as possible"10:54
kanzurethis keeps getting stranger.10:54
kanzure"six sigma savant" wut10:59
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kanzurehttp://www.mil-oss.org/11:56
kanzurehttp://groups.google.com/group/mil-oss11:56
masked+11:58
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kanzurehm darpa was fold.it?12:23
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fennhow long have they been talking about vehicleforge?12:36
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kanzure"gene designer" http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/10/prweb4622214.htm12:59
kanzurefenn: all day.12:59
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retromaskedkanzure: awwwwwwwwwwesome app13:06
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fenn_all this stuff sounds quite familiar13:12
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fennthese people really like jargon13:17
fennmaybe i'm just finding it hard to concentrate with all the god damn airplanes flying around13:20
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retromaskedfenn: they're bleeding you dry13:43
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facefacehttp://www.frontiersin.org/neuroinformatics/10.3389/neuro.11.026.2009/full Visualizing data mining results with the Brede tools 13:58
facefaceApart from the Brede tools I briefly review alternate visualization tools and methods for Internet-based visualization and information visualization as well as portals for visualization tools. 13:58
facefaceRecently I began the Brede Wiki with structured information about neuroscience including neuroimaging visualization tools. Anyone can 'micro-publish' relevant information, and the structured content allows for off-wiki database queries (Nielsen, 2009).14:00
facefacehmm14:00
facefacemetabase is way out of date14:00
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facefaceexit14:05
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ybitcan i has botnet?14:05
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ybitI want to ddos these guys: http://namedia.com14:06
memorexybit: partyvan.info14:06
ybit..when it's time for their scripts to automatically renew a domain name :)14:06
ybitwhat they do is annoying and they deserve a ddos14:07
ybitumkay14:07
ybitmight follow along with that at some point14:07
kanzurejust watching that presentation has made me very sleepy14:11
kanzurebut i got a few job offers O_o through the chat14:11
fennsay what?14:11
fennbecause you asked everybody to leave their emails? :P14:12
kanzurebelieve it or not there were actually insightful discussions14:13
kanzurethe scrollback didn't go all the way to the start of the day14:13
kanzureDARPA primarily wants META-project-hosting14:14
kanzureand dave is wondering what doing this project through VF/DARPA does for us14:14
fenni heard something about 6 million dollars14:15
kanzureup to $9M actually14:16
kanzurethere were a lot of web dev shops in the chat.14:16
kanzurelots of rail guys. local motors, makerbot, MITRE, but also the usual players (raytheon, bae, ptc, ...)14:16
kanzure*rails14:16
fennmakerbot?14:17
kanzurebre.14:17
fennweird14:17
kanzureuh it makes sense though14:18
kanzure"a thingiverse that doesn't suck"14:18
kanzuredon't you think the thingiverse people would reply?14:18
fennheh14:18
fenni guess i just thought they were okay with it sucking14:18
kanzurei think they are :)14:18
kanzurethere was also a lot of "well you can't do business with open source so wtf" trolls <314:19
kanzureat one point paul eremenko explicitly said "it might be the case that none of the awards are to the big industrial players and usual suspects"14:19
kanzureand at that moment, 30 people immediately dropped offline14:19
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kanzure(and did not come back)14:19
fennlol14:19
kanzurebut yeah, META is very obviously BIG SCIENCE14:20
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fenn(tm)14:20
kanzurei don't know if i want to talk about this in here or not14:20
kanzurebut you should be updated either today or eventually14:20
fennwhy14:20
fennok14:20
kanzurebecause part of our strategy relies on other people not using our same strategy14:20
* fenn puts on his trench coat14:21
fennit's a spy eat spy world14:21
fennwhat are we going to do for disinfo14:21
kanzurethingiverse.14:21
kanzurebbl. i need to get outside.14:24
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ybitWhat has it come to! Oh the humanity!15:24
ybitwhat is this META stuff? 15:26
ybitmiddle east, turkey, and africa?15:27
ybiti find that phrase humorous 15:27
ybitbtw, my first reference was in regards to be me being busy with my new job as a c# programmer15:28
ybitseems no one in this area uses python :\15:28
ybit...yet *evil grin*15:28
ybitalso, why has no one ever mentioned functional programming in here? i'm pretty sure this is going to be a passion of mine here soon if it hasn't already become one15:32
QuantumGfunctional programming is a joke15:34
ybitQuantumG: why?15:38
ybiti've found that, not always, there are some cases where the code is slightly smaller and readable15:39
QuantumGthe historic productivity of the programmers is abysmal15:39
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ybiti don't know if i'll go so far to learn ocaml, haskell, or scheme, but i'm finding it makes my code slightly more readable15:40
kanzureybit: META is a specific program under DARPA15:42
kanzurewhich interfaces with the vehicleforge.mil project15:42
ybitthanks kanzure15:47
ybitbbl15:47
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kanzurehm i need a windows box17:47
kanzurehow do i acquire these17:47
kanzuremore specifically, what about acquiring these at strange hours of the night17:51
fenndownload it from the internetz17:57
kanzuresolidworks doesn't run too well under vmware17:57
fennwhy not?17:57
fennslow?17:57
kanzuregraphics issues iirc. it's worth another shot, i guess17:58
fennprobably the fuck_up_if_vmware_detected() function17:58
QuantumGwhen I worked at vmware we detected a number of those functions and noped them out :)17:59
kanzurei don't know why watching paul eremenko for five hours today so totally drained my stamina18:00
kanzurehe wasn't particularly /bad/, in fact he seems to be a good speaker18:00
kanzuremaybe it's just sorting through mess that taxes me18:00
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fennit's the soul sucker they run down at the pentagon18:04
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fennjesus christ it sounds like we're about to get bombed18:26
kanzureagain?18:26
kanzurelink?18:28
fennjust a lot of stuff like this except louder http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=KtlzdwcDJHU&feature=related18:30
fenn"fleet week"18:33
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JayDuggerHeh, heh. Kanzure, you are so funny sometimes.20:05
JayDugger"they are fairly competent about this problem space, i wasn't expecting this"20:05
JayDuggerThe military-industrial complex has competent people, too.20:06
JayDuggerWhether or not you meant the comment as it seemed, I can't tell. It tickles my funny-bone yet.20:07
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