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fenn | rawr | 00:10 |
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fenn | http://www.carboncopies.org/asim-experts-series-brain-machine-interfacing-current-work-and-future-directions-max-hodak | 00:10 |
joshcryer | chat here QuantumG | 00:11 |
fenn | maybe i just didnt realize i knew him | 00:11 |
joshcryer | <QuantumG> indeed. You're in LEO, you say "I want to go to LLO" and it says ok, the minimum transfer is in 3 days, and will take 3.2km/s of delta-v and you can press a button that says "sooner" and it recalculates a suborbital transfer for you, etc. | 00:11 |
joshcryer | I like it | 00:11 |
joshcryer | there are pages with various delta-v using various technologies too | 00:12 |
joshcryer | so you could say "if you're using h2lox do such and such" or "al-lox" such and such | 00:12 |
joshcryer | that sort of thing is all jumpboy thinks about | 00:13 |
QuantumG | orbiter has tools that help you plan tli burns and such | 00:13 |
QuantumG | they feel like you're using a protractor and a compass | 00:14 |
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joshcryer | yeah it was way complicated last time I used it | 00:15 |
joshcryer | tried to plug sea dragon in to it and it was way out of my league | 00:16 |
QuantumG | that sounds like a challenge | 00:19 |
fenn | heh, the answer to "does the new emotiv have a different key" was "it's okay i gave one to qdot, he'll crack it" | 00:20 |
fenn | "Incidentally all, there ARE better headsets on the verge of entering | 00:21 |
fenn | the consumer market. (I've seen them demo-ed in our lab,' | 00:21 |
QuantumG | http://orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?t=6348 | 00:22 |
joshcryer | saw that thread, he gave up from what I recall | 00:24 |
QuantumG | probably cause it looked like crud | 00:25 |
QuantumG | I'll add it to the list of things to do later later later | 00:26 |
QuantumG | think I'll go watch Stargate | 00:26 |
joshcryer | which one? | 00:28 |
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kanzure | someone else writing about diybio and nature.com http://journal.ocular-witness.com/?p=4362 | 10:34 |
kanzure | "Biohack the Planet! A New Generation of Hackers Sweep Across the Country" http://blogs.kentlaw.edu/islat/2010/10/biohack-the-planet-a-new-generation-of-hackers-sweep-across-the-country.html | 10:34 |
dbolser | nice | 10:36 |
dbolser | kanzure: link to the nature pdf? | 10:38 |
dbolser | 'this months nature' - bugs me | 10:39 |
kanzure | dbolser: one sec | 10:39 |
dbolser | got it | 10:39 |
kanzure | Heidi Ledford. Garage biotech: Life hackers. Amateur hobbyists are creating home-brew molecular-biology labs, but can they ferment a revolution? Nature 467, 650-652 (2010) | doi:10.1038/467650a | 10:39 |
kanzure | http://www.nature.com/news/2010/101006/full/467650a.html | 10:39 |
dbolser | http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v467/n7316/pdf/467634a.pdf | 10:39 |
kanzure | Editorial. Garage biology: Amateur scientists who experiment at home should be welcomed by the professionals. Nature. Volume 467: p.634 (07 October 2010) doi:10.1038/467634a | 10:39 |
kanzure | http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v467/n7316/full/467634a.html | 10:39 |
dbolser | ah... | 10:40 |
kanzure | dbolser: also see http://bit.ly/diybionews | 10:40 |
dbolser | kanzure: is there a #diybio ? | 10:42 |
dbolser | I mean, a preferred one? | 10:42 |
dbolser | kanzure: nice link | 10:43 |
kanzure | there's a #diybio but everyone in there just comes here. | 10:43 |
dbolser | how long have you been on oww... wait... I remember you from the lists way back | 10:44 |
kanzure | dbolser: i'm the maintainer of bit.ly/diybionews .. i don't know why. | 10:44 |
dbolser | wondering for twitter, sorry, forgot the irc semantics | 10:44 |
kanzure | dbolser: well, #diybio is basically dead, so i just tell people to use #hplusroadmap | 10:44 |
dbolser | twitter hashtag thing | 10:44 |
kanzure | on twitter the hashtag is #diybio yes | 10:44 |
dbolser | tweet | 10:45 |
dbolser | sweet | 10:45 |
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dbolser | aparently nature want to do an editorial on the biowiki conference I'm helping to organize, which is a ++ | 10:46 |
dbolser | but Nature are a pain mostly | 10:46 |
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kanzure | is it just me or is the quality of http://humanityplus.org/ degrading fast | 12:06 |
kanzure | why is there a blog post being manually updated with dates/times/locations | 12:07 |
archels | Why not? | 12:08 |
kanzure | uh because it's retarded? | 12:08 |
kanzure | isn't this what a .ical or .rss is for | 12:09 |
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archels | So now you want me to download an RSS reader for something that I could have just read in the HTML. | 12:13 |
kanzure | i'm sorry but you're a moron | 12:23 |
kanzure | there are more rss-to-html sites out there than i can care to count | 12:23 |
kanzure | twitter is a very popular, large rss community | 12:24 |
kanzure | granted, with a post length limit but it's just an example | 12:24 |
archels | haha | 12:26 |
archels | Actually Opera supports RSS just fine. | 12:26 |
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archels | But I tend to prefer the simplest solution to a problem. | 12:26 |
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kanzure | open source hardware company focusing on scientific equipment | 12:40 |
kanzure | http://www.iorodeo.com/ | 12:40 |
kanzure | http://projects.peterpolidoro.net/caltech/caltech.htm | 12:40 |
kanzure | http://code.astraw.com/projects/motmot/camtrig/OVERVIEW.html | 12:40 |
kanzure | http://www.dickinson.caltech.edu/PanelsPage | 12:40 |
kanzure | "Currently there are three of us. I was a biochemistry postdoc for a loong time, before working in science and technology education at a school in LA. Will and Peter have been working at Caltech where they have many years of experience in developing custom made scientific apparatus (Robofly, Flyatar and others)." | 12:41 |
kanzure | "Right now the company gets by with consulting work - we work with labs at Caltech and Howard Hughes Janelia Farms institute, developing software and hardware for neuroscience research. But we are about to start selling and supporting some devices on our website." | 12:41 |
kanzure | "Two we are working on supporting are a Motmot trigger device, and panels controller." | 12:41 |
kanzure | hmm. | 12:41 |
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kanzure | hi bgoertzel | 15:29 |
jrayhawk | hello! | 15:29 |
kanzure | jrayhawk: ping | 15:29 |
bgoertzel | hi guys | 15:29 |
bgoertzel | wow, haven't used IRC in ages ... | 15:29 |
bgoertzel | there is an opencog IRC channel but I don';t use it, prolly should... | 15:30 |
kanzure | 33 people in #opencog | 15:30 |
QuantumG | shit, Ben's here, everyone stop calling him a hippie :P | 15:30 |
kanzure | jrayhawk: so, bgoertzel is interested in hosting, and i thought of you | 15:31 |
bgoertzel | hey Joe... I asked Bryan to recommend a new webhost since I'm fed up with aitcom.net which I've used since 1994 ... | 15:31 |
bgoertzel | 4 URLS, mostly just text web pages, not huge bandwidth | 15:31 |
jrayhawk | So, at this point, it's probably easiest for me to give you a vserver if you want it, since the closest thing to a 'normal' web hosting service is whatever stuff Bryan provides and an Ikiwiki hosting service that I don't know if you'll be able to tolerate. | 15:31 |
superkuh | Host it yourself. | 15:31 |
bgoertzel | some email accounds, fowarders, etc. | 15:31 |
bgoertzel | Host it yourself. ==> I prefer to minimize hassle | 15:32 |
kanzure | i think a vserver is fine for ben | 15:32 |
jrayhawk | Sounds like he doesn't want to have to manage much. | 15:32 |
bgoertzel | I have previously run Linux networks in my house, ages ago... | 15:32 |
bgoertzel | but now I'm too busy ... | 15:32 |
jrayhawk | I assume you're okay operating over SSH, then. | 15:32 |
bgoertzel | okay but rusty... | 15:32 |
kanzure | jrayhawk: you mean i should just host him through the gnusha vserver? | 15:33 |
jrayhawk | Not if he wants stability. We do some wacky stuff there. | 15:33 |
* kanzure nods | 15:33 | |
bgoertzel | yeah i was just looking for a stable host for my and my kids personal websites | 15:33 |
bgoertzel | i was just thinking to switch to a more reliable commercial service, actually | 15:34 |
bgoertzel | but then bryan suggested that you host some sites | 15:34 |
bgoertzel | i got pissed because aitcom just went down for 4 days, though they finally came up ;p | 15:34 |
jrayhawk | That works, too. I'm fine with hosting you, but unfortunately you don't get pleasant web interfaces to things; usually it's either doing them yourself or asking me to. | 15:34 |
kanzure | to be fair, joe tends to do stuff that i ask him to | 15:35 |
jrayhawk | Mail, actually, would have to be done exclusively through me. | 15:35 |
bgoertzel | yeah I see... | 15:35 |
kanzure | what do you use the web interfaces for, bgoertzel? | 15:35 |
bgoertzel | hmm... | 15:35 |
bgoertzel | now? mostly for managing email accounts i guess | 15:36 |
bgoertzel | i plan to switch my site over to wordpress sometime soon, but now it's simple html ... | 15:36 |
jrayhawk | It's fairly easy to get google to deal with email accounts and such if you want that level of control. | 15:36 |
kanzure | (gmail) | 15:37 |
jrayhawk | Wordpress is a pretty big maintenance headache. | 15:37 |
bgoertzel | well, that is perhaps a reason to use a commercial wordpress hoster ;) | 15:37 |
jrayhawk | Ah, yes. | 15:37 |
QuantumG | I've never tried wordpress. blogspot is painless | 15:37 |
bgoertzel | they take on that headache as their business model! | 15:37 |
kanzure | wordpress should install fine | 15:38 |
jrayhawk | Drupal might be a better plan if you think there might be risk of you needing to take on hosting it yourself. | 15:38 |
kanzure | the gmail issue is something you should think about regardless of what you do, though | 15:38 |
bgoertzel | well, now ben@goertzel.org is set up as a forwarder to gmail | 15:38 |
bgoertzel | But recently there have been 4 hour delays in forwarding, which is odd! | 15:39 |
jrayhawk | Drupal is only slightly better than Wordpress in terms of headache, though. | 15:39 |
* Utopiah is not a Google fan but admits Gmail on ones own domain is practical and easy to set up | 15:39 | |
bgoertzel | Well, I neither want to deal with installing and maintaining Wordpress on a server, nor do I want to cause anyone headaches... | 15:39 |
bgoertzel | But I like using Wordpress and do not like using Drupal | 15:39 |
jrayhawk | Right-o. | 15:40 |
bgoertzel | It's sounding to me like this solution may not be the minimum-hassle approach for me and others ;) | 15:40 |
bgoertzel | Probably I should go with my plan of finding a less shitty commercial hoster that supports wordpress... | 15:41 |
jrayhawk | Yeah, that sounds like a plan. Though making your kids learn how to use something other than dum-dum interfaces to the web might also be healthy. | 15:41 |
bgoertzel | oops, got a phone call, got to disappear for a moment... | 15:41 |
bgoertzel | hah, one of my kids is 20 years old and in his last year of college as a math major; he can do Unix stuff better than me ;) | 15:42 |
kanzure | zarathustra? | 15:42 |
kanzure | bgoertzel: if you go with blogspot or some dedicad wordpress host, you won't have to manually upgrade it every time it gets hacked | 15:47 |
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kanzure | if you were to throw wordpress up on your aitcom host you'd have to manually update it | 15:47 |
kanzure | (same with mediatemple) | 15:48 |
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jrayhawk | mediatemple is painfully expensive for just about everything | 15:51 |
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kanzure | hi rwallace | 15:58 |
rwallace | hi! | 15:59 |
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joshcryer | Chile miners going to be rescued tonight: http://www.ustream.tv/cbsnews | 18:46 |
kanzure | wait, hasn't that been a few months in the making | 18:49 |
joshcryer | 68 days | 18:50 |
joshcryer | :O | 18:50 |
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kanzure | huh simcity was released as open source? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropolis_%28video_game%29 | 19:35 |
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kanzure | hi kizzo | 19:37 |
joshcryer | The carriage is underground and they have a live feed. | 19:37 |
kizzo | Hello. | 19:42 |
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wrldpcmbl | ahoy from sunny cherry point north carolina | 20:29 |
QuantumG | last chance to call 1 (866) 687-7223, let it ring until answered, and ask a cool question about the Moon | 20:31 |
kanzure | hi wrldpcmbl | 20:46 |
kanzure | QuantumG: is that your number? | 20:47 |
QuantumG | The Space Show | 20:48 |
QuantumG | call it! | 20:48 |
QuantumG | now | 20:48 |
QuantumG | fast | 20:48 |
kanzure | if i call i'm going to proclaim my ownership of the land. | 20:48 |
QuantumG | go on | 20:49 |
QuantumG | ask about property ownership | 20:49 |
QuantumG | http://www.spacesettlement.org/law/ is interesting | 20:50 |
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kanzure | http://lavaamp.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/did-anyone-else-see-lavaamp-mentioned-in-nature-last-week/ | 21:01 |
kanzure | Neues #Chaosradio "Biohacking": Hacks und Exploits in | 21:01 |
kanzure | Molekülen und Gensträngen http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre143.html | 21:01 |
kanzure | with mp3 | 21:01 |
kanzure | "Weltweit entsteht gerade eine neue "Do it yourself"-Biologie-Community, die sich mit den Techniken und Erkenntnissen synthetischer Biologie und anderer Disziplinen auseinandersetzt und versucht, Methoden, Geräte und Dienstleistungen aus dem professionen Umfeld für private Forschung zur Anwendungen zu bringen. Dabei steht der explorative Ansatz im Vordergrund, auch wenn die Motivation und Zielsetzungen von Gruppe zu Gruppe variieren." | 21:02 |
kanzure | "Hallo Welt" en Die Standards-Parts-Datenbanken | 21:04 |
kanzure | http://chaosradio.ccc.de/archive/chaosradio_express_143.mp3.torrent | 21:04 |
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kanzure | swCommandTabButtonTextDisplay | 21:23 |
kanzure | oh right this is why i don't like windows | 21:23 |
kanzure | hm google says: http://www.finitebusiness.net/cadlabbeta/CADLabDocs/main.html | 21:23 |
kanzure | "CADLab gives direct access to SolidWorks functionality, Modeling data and Simulation data via MATLAB classes. The MATLAB classes in CADLab closely map to the SolidWorks API interface. Thus CADLab enables you to write m based scripts just like you would write Visual Basic based macros for SolidWorks." | 21:23 |
joshcryer | I like how that single function inhabits its own file. | 21:24 |
kanzure | i don't :( | 21:24 |
joshcryer | (note: when I like something I usually like it for absurd reasons, like stupid things) | 21:25 |
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QuantumG | joshcryer: that explains why you like me | 22:33 |
joshcryer | Heh | 22:46 |
joshcryer | Yer smarter than me, don't be retarded. ;P | 22:46 |
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