2010-10-17.log

--- Log opened Sun Oct 17 00:00:18 2010
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Utopiahis there an equivalent of the Top500 supercomputers for "sequencing" power?01:35
Utopiahs/^/[naive question warning]/01:35
joshcryerI coulda swore we had that but I don't see it on a cursory search.01:37
kanzureUtopiah: do you mean clusters for computing sequence alignment or sequencing machines based on i.e. identification rate?01:40
kanzureif it helps, someone was plotting sequencing machines (model numbers, etc.) against "the carlson curves"01:40
Utopiah#201:41
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kanzureguess who? http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/afgroadsimport/edits07:22
kanzureActivation of opposing muscles in the crayfish claw http://www.biol.sc.edu/~vogt/courses/neuro/notes/crawfish-claw-todd1.pdf07:26
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kanzure*oppossing muscle groups07:33
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kanzure"We've been contracted to work on a diybio project to create an engaging iPad experience for a DIY microscope" http://dinostudios.com/2010/10/dino-week-39-what-the-heck-is-dino-doing/09:42
kanzurehaha, mac is outsourcing his roboscope?09:42
kanzurehuh that's david nunez.09:44
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kanzuregary wolf did a TED talk on QS http://www.ted.com/talks/gary_wolf_the_quantified_self.html10:59
kanzurethat link was via Tal Galili <tal.galili@gmail.com> from the hebrew life extension group.11:02
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archelshttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/10/14/2329215/Google-Maps-Adds-Drone-Imagery11:09
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kanzurehttp://www.appropedia.org/Category:TheFWD11:54
kanzurebackground: http://www.appropedia.org/The_future_we_deserve11:54
kanzureif anything, kevin carson's piece on antiscarcity is his usual spiell11:54
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kanzurehi Earache 13:01
EaracheHey there kanzure13:02
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EaracheMy first time checking out any of the H+ channels and my first time on IRC in years :)13:02
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kanzure"transhumanism is dangerous garbage" - ben goertzel13:04
kanzureholy crap?13:04
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Earacheis that recent from goertzel?13:04
kanzurea min ago on a phone call13:04
kanzureO_O13:04
EaracheHmm...13:05
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kanzurehttp://humanityplus.org/ how does that look to you guys13:34
archelsFrom a design standpoint of from a does-it-work-in-your-browser standpoint?13:39
kanzureeh, either/or13:42
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archelsWhy is featured work an anime drawing of two lightsaber-fighting robots?13:50
kanzureyou sir fail at gundam13:51
kanzurehumanityplus.org has no concept of staging servers :(13:51
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flamtssh rl.heh.fi for linleys dungeon crawl14:40
nshwhat were you talking to goertzel about?14:42
nsh(kanzure)14:42
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kanzurensh: humanityplus.org board meeting15:11
kanzurei was just listening in, they didn't know15:12
kanzurehttp://bit.ly/turretPics15:13
augurhey kiddles.16:15
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flamtssh rl.heh.fi for linleys dungeon crawl login 'rl'16:44
kanzurei'm kinda bad at this17:06
kanzurehttp://pastebin.ca/196532317:06
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mheldhey y'all19:22
kanzuresurprisingly short: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebook_scene19:23
kanzurehttp://web.archive.org/web/20060530055327/http://www.searchlores.org/h_ebook.htm19:23
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kanzurehmm20:24
kanzureso there's not really any document that explores the role of invention in transhumanism20:25
kanzurekurzweil tsin has a very "hands off" approach to technology20:25
kanzurethis certainly doesn't do the topic justice http://anarchotranshumanism.com/2007/05/23/copyrights-and-patents-capitalism-and-creative-progress/20:29
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jrayhawkbryan: fonts too huge, tagline awkward20:52
jrayhawkgundam perhaps inappopriate20:53
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kanzurejrayhawk: thx20:57
kanzurealso nobody else knew it was gundam :(20:57
jrayhawki would've called them giant anime robots if not for the filename20:59
QuantumGit'd be a bit GARish though21:00
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kanzurewhen did fringe add "transhumanism" to their intro?22:05
jrayhawkthere's a chance i could feel motivated enough to set up a staging site for hplus22:13
jrayhawkwould depend on what-all you want staged, though22:13
kanzureeh, i wouldn't ask you to do that22:16
kanzurethis is definitely a situation where you should charge them lots of money for doing anything22:16
kanzuresince (1) they don't know what their goals are, (2) they don't know what they are doing, and (3) anything you do is going to be meaningless in the scheme of #1 and #222:16
kanzurebtw, for staging, i just mean a copy of the web server mostly.. instead of updating the live instance. >_>22:17
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jrayhawkif nothing less, you should get them to follow the LWN.net model22:21
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kanzurejrayhawk: hm?22:32
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jrayhawkpay originators of developments in the field of interest to write stories, charge for exclusive access for those stories for x amount of time, then release publicly22:33
jrayhawkI think LWN.net does two weeks22:33
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jrayhawkor close peers of originators of developments in the field22:39
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fennwhy does it say "and ethics in innovation"22:59
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fennwhat's wrong with just "HUMANITY+ STANDS FOR HUMAN ENHANCEMENT"23:00
fennyes i realize you probably had like 6 committee meetings about it23:00
jrayhawkthose committees were bad and dumb23:00
fennof course23:01
fenni think there could be some nice randomized quotes on the upper right23:01
kanzureexclusive access is stupid, especially when the license is screative commons23:01
kanzurefenn: stop focusing on the website23:01
kanzurethere are some larger issues with this whole thing.23:01
jrayhawkwell it doesn't have to be creative commons until after the exclusion period23:02
kanzurelike: "what should a transhumanism organization actually be doing"23:03
kanzurepaying $3k/mo for a blog is stupid23:04
kanzurehow about some actual projects?23:04
fennso why did you just redo the website?23:04
kanzurebecause otherwise they'd pay someone a ridiculous amount to install a wordpress theme23:05
kanzureit was just (1) upload .zip, (2) unzip, (3) clicky button.23:05
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fennoh well it's all dangerous garbage anyway23:06
kanzureO_o23:06
* fenn chuckles23:06
genehackerwhat fluorine ampules?23:06
kanzuretoday on the board meeting: "let's set up a wiki so people can contribute content"23:10
kanzure"and then we can be like a wikipedia"23:10
genehackerboard meeting, what have you been up to?23:10
kanzuregenehacker: infiltrating humanity+ :(23:10
genehackerI've been building robots, racecars, and exoskeletons23:11
kanzureutsvt?23:11
genehackerno23:11
kanzureacme team?23:11
kanzureer, wait23:11
genehackergas powered one23:11
kanzuredeets or it's not real23:12
genehackerdeets?23:13
kanzuredetails23:13
genehackeras far as robots go, I'm fixing up some robot arms, convincing RAS to do awesome competitions and stuff23:14
genehackerracecars, I'm working with SAE now23:15
genehackerand exoskeletons, well I'm not really allowed to say much about that other than we obtained a compact fusion reactor through dubious means23:16
genehackeroh yeah you wouldn't happen to have any information about the composition of metallic asteroids would you?23:20
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QuantumGthere was something on my blog23:42
genehacker???23:42
genehackeror do we still not know asteroid composition23:42
QuantumGhttp://homepage.mac.com/brother_guy/.Public/Asteroid%20Densities.pdf23:44
QuantumGthere ya go23:44
QuantumGthere's compositions extrapolated from meteorites23:46
QuantumGand ya never know, the Japanese might finally release some sample return data in a year or two23:47
genehackerwell they might have found some dust in hayabusa23:48
genehackerpoor probe23:48
QuantumGthey have claimed to, yes23:48
genehackerhaving to reenter like it did23:48
QuantumGyeah, limped back23:48
genehackervatican observatory, don't see that one very often23:49
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genehackerno elemental composition data23:51
genehackerit'd really be nice to know if there's nice quantities of carbon, hydrogen, chlorine, or fluorine in asteroids 23:52
genehackerbecause that's what one needs to reduce metals of interest23:53
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