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| kanzure | http://challenge.gov/ | 05:14 |
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| JayDugger | genehacker, the conference proceedings should get published by Apogee next year. | 06:10 |
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| dbolser | fun http://primaxstudio.com/stuff/scale_of_universe/ | 07:29 |
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| dbolser | practical http://www.nature.com/news/2010/101014/full/news.2010.541.html | 07:30 |
| dbolser | something in between: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=history+of+science&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=4Lb&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&tbs=tl:1&q=history+of+science&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=52ab434ed099b34 | 07:30 |
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| kanzure | fenn: matt is suggesting we go after the iFAB technical area 2 | 07:50 |
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| kanzure | iFAB BAA: https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=fe7b43c64ede90b2784dfb9a35cd7fe1 | 08:20 |
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| JayDugger | Aren't you likely to get stuck with the languages specified by "META/META-II tools"? | 08:23 |
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| JayDugger | My mistake. I confused program phases with technical areas. | 08:24 |
| JayDugger | Did you notice "The specific open source license will be specified by DARPA in course of the period of performance."? | 08:25 |
| kanzure | yes, that's present in each of the BAAs | 08:30 |
| JayDugger | Good. | 08:31 |
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| fenn | i dont know kanzure, all this darpa stuff seems like a lot of run around | 08:55 |
| kanzure | yep | 08:56 |
| kanzure | http://gitorious.org/git_http_backend_py | 08:56 |
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| fenn | "offerors should explicitly articulate the advance that their proposed approach is likely to have with respect to these metrics and substantiate these assertions with analysis or empirical data" | 08:57 |
| fenn | i'd much rather "do stuff" | 08:57 |
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| kanzure | but you have to articulate your assertion of "doing stuff" with analysis or empirical data!! | 08:58 |
| kanzure | fenn: what was djangit? | 09:00 |
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| fenn | djangit was a git<->wiki presentation layer | 09:02 |
| kanzure | django-gitcms seems to do that well enough, perhaps without giant "EDIT" buttons on the web-side | 09:02 |
| fenn | is that new? i dont remember ever seeing that | 09:03 |
| kanzure | http://djangopackages.com/ helps | 09:04 |
| fenn | oh, right, yafps | 09:04 |
| fenn | yafpms | 09:05 |
| kanzure | it's a django package in an egg in a debian repository, duh | 09:05 |
| kanzure | s/repository/package | 09:05 |
| fenn | anyway, yes, ifab ta2 sounds a lot like what i was doing in matt's lab | 09:06 |
| fenn | i'm not sure i ever came up with any satistfactory universal process representation language | 09:06 |
| kanzure | psl? was sort of a joke | 09:06 |
| fenn | i couldnt find any actual psl examples so i sort of skipped it | 09:07 |
| kanzure | what we need on that front is someone to sit down with lots of equipment and just characterize it for once | 09:07 |
| kanzure | or aggregate their datasheets (prolly not enough) | 09:07 |
| fenn | yeah there usually isn't a datasheet for manufacturing equipment, oddly enough | 09:08 |
| fenn | i suspect a good educated guess or interpolation from other data sources would be good enough | 09:09 |
| fenn | that requires somebody who knows gut-level what they're dealing with though | 09:09 |
| fenn | fuck i wish PSL just had a regular web page | 09:10 |
| fenn | it looks like it was generated with some tool similar to doxygen | 09:11 |
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| fenn | i think maybe they fell into the symbolic abstraction trap of 80's ai (symbol grounding problem) | 09:13 |
| fenn | but this is such an easily grounded problem... | 09:13 |
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| kanzure | fenn: i sent some emails out with PSL examples but they weren't stellar | 09:26 |
| JayDugger | PSL=Process Something-or-other Language? | 09:27 |
| fenn | process specification language | 09:28 |
| fenn | http://www.mel.nist.gov/psl/ | 09:28 |
| JayDugger | Thank you, fenn. | 09:28 |
| JayDugger | Good night, everyone. | 09:37 |
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| fenn | anyone know how to download webpages with wget where you have to "log in" (for example google groups) | 10:29 |
| kanzure | yes | 10:31 |
| kanzure | you might have to use curl though | 10:31 |
| kanzure | woops, i've done this with wget too | 10:31 |
| kanzure | first you have to do a POST to log in (through a variety of stupid pages) and save the cookie | 10:31 |
| kanzure | then you use the cookie on subsequent requests | 10:31 |
| kanzure | google sends you around the globe for logging in though, i remember there being three or four 302s involved | 10:31 |
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| fenn | le sigh, resorting to beautifulsoup for the simplest tasks | 10:38 |
| kanzure | i find that beautifulsoup fails more often than not | 10:38 |
| kanzure | so i have to use lxml | 10:38 |
| fenn | for parsing python? | 10:38 |
| fenn | erf | 10:38 |
| fenn | for parsin html? | 10:38 |
| kanzure | yes | 10:38 |
| kanzure | most people write broken html | 10:39 |
| kanzure | beautifulsoup ain't so beautiful with broken html | 10:39 |
| fenn | i thought "beautiful soup doesn't care what the html looks like" | 10:39 |
| kanzure | any progress? | 11:02 |
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| kanzure | http://fora.tv/partner/Open_Science_Summit videos up | 11:40 |
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| archels | ``Ten percent of chemicals in our bloodstream are bacterial metabolites, and we don’t know if they help, hurt, cause or suppress disease, cause mood, etc'' | 12:35 |
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| fenn | beautifulsoup's prettify function is a good way to prep xml files for diff | 13:30 |
| fenn | also i've been messing with feedparser.org but it has a lot of dependencies | 13:31 |
| fenn | still havent figured out how to do automated authentication | 13:32 |
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| Jonano | I think people will get treated for aging like cancer vaccine | 13:51 |
| Jonano | it will be a massive execution all around the world | 13:51 |
| fenn | huh. i have exactly 12345 google searches | 13:54 |
| Jonano | http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-aging_vaccine | 13:55 |
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| fenn | oh i see, start= is actually being parsed as a timestamp, and i started right after 1234567890 | 13:57 |
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| fenn | avocado-ice-cream++ | 14:56 |
| fenn | actually it tastes a lot like the pistachio ice cream, i wonder if they got the lids mixed up | 14:57 |
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| fenn | huh. 16:26 -!- CPhoenix-2 [CPhoenix-2@cpc4-basf9-2-0-cust226.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] | 16:30 |
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| kanzure | hi victoreremita | 17:35 |
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| kanzure | fenn: sounds like chris phoenix to me | 17:35 |
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| kanzure | fenn: only 12345? :( | 17:36 |
| kanzure | fenn: i actually have a google web history scraper i wrote :( | 17:36 |
| kanzure | if i had known that's what you wanted i would have just given it to you | 17:36 |
| kanzure | btw anyone know the size of london hackspace? i've been directing diybio-london to them and they are really hitting it off | 17:36 |
| kanzure | http://wiki.hackspace.org.uk/wiki/Biohack_workshop | 17:36 |
| kanzure | also apparently nicktoons really is syndicating dragon ball z kai | 17:40 |
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| kanzure | hi brady | 17:44 |
| brady | hi | 17:44 |
| kanzure | what's up? | 17:44 |
| brady | hanging out, coding | 17:45 |
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| brady | i've never seen so many people in an h+ channel before | 17:47 |
| QuantumG | most of them never say anything | 17:48 |
| brady | thats usually what i do, just sit in channels hearing what people are talking about | 17:50 |
| kanzure | #hplusroadmap pride | 17:53 |
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| brady | i had a weird conversation at work the other day on whether or not our minds are deterministic and if we can make choices | 17:56 |
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| kanzure | brady: let's not use the M word in here | 18:07 |
| brady | "make" ? | 18:08 |
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| kanzure | brady: "mind" | 18:11 |
| brady | kanzure: hey, don't use that word | 18:11 |
| brady | what do you guys normally talk about here? | 18:14 |
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| thesnark | http://ultimate-research-assistant.com I just came like four times | 18:19 |
| kanzure | brady: world domination | 18:19 |
| kanzure | brady: http://gnusha.org/logs/ fyi | 18:19 |
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| kanzure | brady: what about yourself? | 18:30 |
| kanzure | what are you coding | 18:30 |
| brady | kanzure: working on a community portal site, like a cms for my boss | 18:31 |
| brady | kanzure: are you into bioinformatics? | 18:33 |
| kanzure | yes | 18:41 |
| kanzure | aren't cmses overdone these days? just use one of those? | 18:41 |
| brady | i did use drupal for a while but too slow and messy (code wise) | 18:43 |
| kanzure | i've never looked at the drupal codebase | 18:44 |
| kanzure | lots of people use wordpress as a cms, or joomla | 18:45 |
| kanzure | back in *my* day the popular kids were using phpnuke *shrugs* | 18:45 |
| brady | im more of a diy guy | 18:48 |
| brady | kanzure: do you have a Emotiv EPOC headset? | 18:50 |
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| kanzure | brady: no, but i had one | 19:00 |
| kanzure | Daeken "helped" :P | 19:01 |
| brady | looks pretty cool. i'd want one if it they are pretty hackable | 19:06 |
| kanzure | did you see http://hplusmagazine.com/editors-blog/emotiv-epoc-eeg-headset-hacked | 19:07 |
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| kanzure | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/78991/why-is-github-more-popular-than-gitorious | 20:09 |
| kanzure | huh what is egon doing there. | 20:09 |
| * kanzure needs to absorb his brain | 20:10 | |
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| kanzure | bitbucket is looking good | 21:36 |
| kanzure | http://bitbucket.org/wnielson/django-pam/src/tip/dpam/ | 21:36 |
| Jonano | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yunCsfAcSeY | 21:46 |
| Jonano | are you speaking alone ? | 21:46 |
| Jonano | sometime ? | 21:46 |
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| fenn | it's riot fun down here in sf http://somafm.com/sfscanner.pls | 23:29 |
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