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| joshcryer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UIdI8khMkw | 02:18 |
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| t_siamendes | all in the tactics | 03:04 |
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| mheld | hey, anybody here from stanford? | 05:51 |
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| kanzure | DRIE etchant simulator.. thing? http://tfy.tkk.fi/~mag/VisualTAPAS/Home.html | 06:32 |
| kanzure | that was via Andrea Mazzolari <mazzolari@fe.infn.it> | 06:32 |
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| kanzure | fenn: http://pandaboard.org/ | 07:23 |
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| kanzure | dbolser: have you kept up with cfp-wiki? or whatever that call-for-papers wiki was. | 08:01 |
| kanzure | hm i realized i didn't know the names off the top of my head of who runs SENS | 08:09 |
| kanzure | http://sens.org/sens-foundation/board | 08:09 |
| kanzure | http://sens.org/sens-foundation/founders | 08:09 |
| kanzure | http://sens.org/sens-foundation/people-search?page=1 | 08:09 |
| t_siamendes | i thought it was aubrey, seems i was wrong | 08:13 |
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| dbolser | kanzure: no | 08:38 |
| dbolser | I'm still thinking to create a 'journal club' wiki with proper citation / annotation functionality at some point | 08:38 |
| dbolser | every journal has crappy ad-hock 'comments' section, such a wiki would aim to standardize such functionality | 08:39 |
| Utopiah | PLoS has such ideas and Zotera has a community over several journals, could be helpful | 08:42 |
| Utopiah | s/Zotera/Zotero/ | 08:42 |
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| Utopiah | Sphere Fluidics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AajNacI_HEo | 10:10 |
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| industromatic | Hey Bryan... | 11:01 |
| kanzure | hi industromatic | 11:03 |
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| kanzure | openscad mechanical cad library https://github.com/D1plo1d/MCAD | 11:17 |
| kanzure | elmom: did you write that? | 11:18 |
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| kanzure | http://genomikon.ca/ | 11:31 |
| kanzure | http://2010.igem.org/Team:Alberta/human_practices/distribution_analysis | 11:31 |
| kanzure | looks like a biobricks kit | 11:32 |
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| kanzure | from om today: | 13:22 |
| kanzure | http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/do-patents-encourage-or-hinder-innovation-the-case-of-the-steam-engine/ | 13:22 |
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| industromatic | kanzure, Is anyone in town doing any reprap upgrading, or just using makerbots? | 13:36 |
| kanzure | martin might be doing something.. but i could never quite tell | 13:39 |
| industromatic | Martin B? He's always leaving out the important parts of what he's talking about. | 13:46 |
| industromatic | I doubt he's doing anything OHL at all. | 13:47 |
| industromatic | The obvious forum posts I made after your announcement have no results. | 13:48 |
| industromatic | Where else do you find the people that made those posts on reprap forums? | 13:49 |
| kanzure | there's really no centralized communication for gada prize stuff | 13:49 |
| kanzure | i might be fixing this soon (but i hate to deprecate reprap.org's forums from them...) | 13:50 |
| industromatic | I'm interested in this -- http://reprap.org/wiki/GranuleExtruder | 13:51 |
| industromatic | and this -- http://www.reprap.org/wiki/Granule_Extruder_Team | 13:51 |
| industromatic | But they are dead as door nails. First was A Boyer the reprap originator. | 13:52 |
| industromatic | second was linked from http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?171,40341 by Pablo2m | 13:53 |
| industromatic | Do you know Pablo2m ? | 13:53 |
| kanzure | no i don't know that person | 13:53 |
| industromatic | Hmmhh.. practical low cost extruding is the area that interests me most -- what I was researching when I first ran into you. | 13:55 |
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| industromatic | Pablo2m seems to have not attracted any others with his Granule Extruder wiki group as of May 15, 2010 and then no more posts from him. | 13:57 |
| kanzure | industromatic: his email address is pablo.m.mana@gmail.com | 14:00 |
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| kanzure | industromatic: you should try asking for pablo2m by emailing Sebastien <sebastian.rodriguez@ubuntu-co.com>, Alex <alpiero2502@hotmail.com>, kristianpaul (who sometimes comes in here), or José Joaquín Prieto Cruz <josejaoquinprieto@hotmail.com> | 14:04 |
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| industromatic | Thanks Bryan. I'll try those leads. | 14:14 |
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| kanzure | i just saw the latest ponoko newsletter. "Learn how two Makers made 202% of their funding goal and how you can too!" (referring to openpcr) | 15:46 |
| kanzure | *sigh* | 15:46 |
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| ybit2 | Last night, I realized, $20,000/yr doesn't cut it. | 16:32 |
| ybit2 | Also, you have to take a different approach to the photoshop phrase if you are to use Gimp. "Man, gimp that mess", e.g. | 16:33 |
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| ybit2 | And for Blender, you don't say "blender it", you say "toss it in Blender" | 16:33 |
| ybit2 | gimpify the photo could work as well :) | 16:34 |
| ybit2 | nonameconf.in | 16:36 |
| ybit2 | this december, topic: anything | 16:37 |
| ybit2 | someone want to do a remote talk on open science and open hardware? | 16:37 |
| ybit2 | seed the fire for when i go next year? :) | 16:37 |
| kanzure | why doesn't $20k/year work? | 16:39 |
| kanzure | jacob posted a video :/ http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/citizenscience/the-citizen-science-quarterly | 16:39 |
| kanzure | i don't think he understands blogging | 16:39 |
| ybit2 | because, $100/wk = food, $15/wk = spanish lessons, $120/mo = health insurance, $30/wk = gasoline, $120/mo = car insurance, $20/mo = haircut, $2000/yr = taxes, $2000 = debt that needs to be paid off, $50/wk = vacation, $25/wk = sub-vacation, $350 = another debt to pay, $10/wk = misc spending that I'm not able to forecast, and because my boss insist on me looking sharp $125/mo on clothes | 16:42 |
| ybit2 | coming out to $20,410 | 16:42 |
| ybit2 | er wait, that figure is with gas being $35/wk | 16:43 |
| ybit2 | i don't have rent to pay, thankfully | 16:43 |
| ybit2 | or utilities or cable, or cellphone | 16:43 |
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| ybit2 | which doesn't leave money for diy projects, deoderant, toothpaste, sunscren, shampoo, conditioner, hairspray, soap, toothbrush, blowdryer, stm, afm, wire-edm, eeg, rtms, flurometer, spectrophotometer, eyetoy touchscreen, 3d led cube, gardenbot, reprap, my own PCBs, hdd recovery, diy processor thingy, robotic arms, my garden needs to expand, ceb press, daiwoo lanos conversion, multimachine, open source hydrogen car, and materials needed to construct a h | 16:47 |
| ybit2 | fluorometer* | 16:48 |
| ybit2 | a few of those i'm going to be able to complete because they are so cheap, but $20k doesn't give me enough to complete them all in a year unfortunately | 16:48 |
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| ybit2 | feel free to correct me if i'm off somewhere :) | 16:49 |
| t_siamendes | lol | 16:50 |
| t_siamendes | you should try living in the UK, we literally get raped by tax even on low incomes | 16:51 |
| ybit2 | http://www.dlink.com/products/?tab=3&pid=DCS-5300G&rev=DCS-5300G_revB :: the wireless cameras i was talking about yesterday | 16:51 |
| ybit2 | yeah, i'm seeing 23% of my paycheck being unaccounted for | 16:51 |
| ybit2 | having a talk with that department tomorrow | 16:51 |
| t_siamendes | i think i pay around 34% tax + they charge vat on everything you buy at 20%, 80% of the cost of fuel is tax as well which is obscene | 16:53 |
| t_siamendes | it cuts into money I could use for buying resources | 16:54 |
| t_siamendes | http://foresight.breakthroughstocures.org/ | 16:59 |
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| t_siamendes | http://info.breakthroughstocures.org/ | 17:14 |
| jrayhawk | how would tax literally rape | 17:23 |
| kanzure | t_siamendes: looks like that's the institute for the future guys. | 17:23 |
| ybit2 | a very old guy wearing a red, white, and blue suit, sporting a white beard longer than Bryan's comes to your house and bends you over at night when you aren't expecting it | 17:24 |
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| industromatic | "how two Makers made 202% of their funding goal and how you can too!" Tito J is a marketing guy he says. | 17:37 |
| industromatic | That's why they used ponoko and not a machine nearby at a hackerspace. They wanted to burn up the funding fast to keep up with silicon valley rent. | 17:38 |
| industromatic | He was asking me to make designs for nearly free, and I told him to use kickstarter and ask for 5 X $2K. Worked fine obviouisly. | 17:39 |
| ybit2 | i often doubt my ability to save the human race | 17:41 |
| ybit2 | because of time constraints | 17:41 |
| kanzure | industromatic: tito is a moron and i hate him | 17:43 |
| kanzure | just wanted to clear that up | 17:43 |
| ybit2 | i'm a moron too | 17:44 |
| kanzure | yes but you're our moron | 17:44 |
| ybit2 | aww | 17:44 |
| * ybit2 hands over leather-clad pants | 17:45 | |
| ybit2 | off-topic | 17:46 |
| ybit2 | http://flavorwire.com/128636/meet-the-mad-scientist-of-musical-instruments | 17:46 |
| ybit2 | that is not music | 17:46 |
| ybit2 | it's only neat because it might attract others to electronics | 17:47 |
| t_siamendes | the key word I missed from that mild rant about tax was 'financially' | 18:02 |
| kanzure | "You can probably just ask for $2 bills at a bank. Last I checked, they still mint brand new ones to replace damaged ones removed from circulation." | 18:05 |
| kanzure | "A bunch of engineers at idealab did this back during the bubble. The idea was the saturate Pasadena, CA with $2 bills, particularly as retailers, lacking anywhere to put $2 bills in registers, tended to quickly re-release them." | 18:05 |
| kanzure | "We tried buying them a thousand at a time from banks. One time a manager came out to talk to us about it and asked what we wanted them for. We explained and his response was, "So we're going to get them all back."" | 18:05 |
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| QuantumG | sorry, what? | 18:09 |
| kanzure | in the US, $2 bills are sorta rare | 18:12 |
| kanzure | the saturation idea was to get the local economy flowing | 18:13 |
| t_siamendes | with a 'paper' based currency, there seems little point to a $2 | 18:14 |
| t_siamendes | in terms of ease of use | 18:14 |
| QuantumG | .. we have $1 and $2 coins.. and for some reason the $2 is the smallest | 18:15 |
| QuantumG | btw, apparently the US also has $1 coins. | 18:15 |
| kanzure | yep | 18:15 |
| QuantumG | you often get them as change at amtrak stations | 18:15 |
| QuantumG | passing those is a bitch | 18:15 |
| t_siamendes | do vendors take them? | 18:16 |
| t_siamendes | vending machines | 18:16 |
| kanzure | passing those.. like through your butt? | 18:16 |
| QuantumG | most don't | 18:16 |
| QuantumG | dealing with store clerks in the US is a bit like being constipated yes | 18:16 |
| kanzure | if you have trouble passing them you should stop eating them | 18:16 |
| kanzure | bah | 18:17 |
| kanzure | i thought you were in australia | 18:17 |
| QuantumG | I lived in the US once upon a time | 18:17 |
| kanzure | i'm so sorry | 18:17 |
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| t_siamendes | possibly the most ridiculous currency denomination in the UK, 3pence piece | 18:23 |
| t_siamendes | lol | 18:23 |
| t_siamendes | phased out in the 1970's | 18:24 |
| t_siamendes | thats a nonsense coin | 18:24 |
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| Redeemer | Question for those here, does anyone intend on going to the H+ event at caltech? | 18:38 |
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| ybit2 | Redeemer! | 18:44 |
| ybit2 | in nomvember.., probably not | 18:45 |
| ybit2 | too short notice | 18:45 |
| ybit2 | 3 events in one year, wow | 18:45 |
| t_siamendes | Not within my budget to get to US for this, thou would love to watch the lectures if they broadcast | 18:47 |
| t_siamendes | even if they are videod and streamed afterwards | 18:47 |
| Redeemer | Its actually for this December. | 18:48 |
| Redeemer | I think, it might be feasible for me to do this. | 18:48 |
| kanzure | Redeemer: i'll be going (i have a talk) | 18:49 |
| kanzure | http://humanityplus.org/conferences/ | 18:49 |
| kanzure | t_siamendes: they will be streaming | 18:49 |
| kanzure | i might also be organizing some 3d printer gangbanging action during the morning/lunch breaks | 18:49 |
| Redeemer | Cool. Right now I am trying to look into sharing a room again to help lower costs. | 18:50 |
| kanzure | oh hmm i guess i need to arrange transportation/living | 18:50 |
| Redeemer | I'd have started planning this sooner, stuff has come up quite a bit to hamper this effort x.x | 18:51 |
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| Redeemer | Looks like there is a handy light rail line from downtown LA to Pasadena, so that might also reduce transit costs. Depending how close it is to caltech or designated hotel. | 18:56 |
| Redeemer | It also reaches into LAX itself, thus reducing time even further. | 18:59 |
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| Redeemer | Any thoughts? | 19:19 |
| kanzure | i haven't looked into it yet | 19:19 |
| Redeemer | Looks like a plausible way without having to take a shuttle, and right now sun country airlines is offering a seat from my location to lax for 250 round trip. good stuff. | 19:20 |
| kanzure | :) | 19:21 |
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| Redeemer | Last time I thought $450 was good. | 19:21 |
| kanzure | yeah they have $120 one-wayers from time to time. i got one to sf a few years back at that price. | 19:22 |
| Redeemer | I gotta take off for work here, but when ya get the chance, let me know what you find out regarding hotel stuff. I bought my H+ ticket just now, so I am locking myself into the deal. | 19:23 |
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| kanzure | hi Noahj | 20:03 |
| Noahj | Hey kanzure | 20:04 |
| Noahj | Just got back from the AS220 fablab | 20:04 |
| kanzure | what's there? | 20:04 |
| Noahj | I helped a RISD architecture student make a topographic cardboard model thingy they're going to build their designs on | 20:04 |
| Noahj | on the laser cutter | 20:04 |
| Noahj | Other students working on this assignment are cutting everything out by hand | 20:04 |
| kanzure | rhode island school district? | 20:05 |
| Noahj | School of design | 20:05 |
| kanzure | hrm. | 20:05 |
| Noahj | It's a pretty popular art college | 20:05 |
| industromatic | I know one of their old perfessers -- lives in Woodstock CT | 20:14 |
| kanzure | BIZZARO LAND JUST ENTERED | 20:15 |
| kanzure | http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1859462&cid=34169404 | 20:15 |
| kanzure | bruce sez: "Actually, Christine Petersen coined the term "Open Source" at the meeting where the formation of a separate Open Source campaign was first discussed. She was at the time married to the nanotechnology guru Eric Drexler. I created the Open Source Definition 9 months before ESR got involved, as the Debian Free Software Guidelines. And I'm pretty clear that RMS writings came long before CaTB." | 20:15 |
| kanzure | i didn't know bruce/christine knew each other | 20:15 |
| kanzure | what the fuck. | 20:16 |
| QuantumG | heh, guess you better update your stalk-chart | 20:16 |
| QuantumG | Bruce also is involved in AMSAT | 20:16 |
| kanzure | christine was the one who handed me the gada prize | 20:16 |
| industromatic | kanzure: "just wanted to clear that up" Funny! | 20:17 |
| industromatic | stalk-chart? | 20:18 |
| QuantumG | kanzure likes to chart who knows who (and him) | 20:19 |
| kanzure | industromatic: stalk-chart: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/meetlog.txt | 20:19 |
| industromatic | So Bryan's the stalker, eh? | 20:19 |
| kanzure | i'd say that's safe to say | 20:19 |
| QuantumG | it's the national hobby | 20:19 |
| industromatic | So, I'm on there at 2009-12-07 | 20:20 |
| kanzure | we probably met earlier | 20:21 |
| industromatic | That must have been when I asked around about reprap in Austin TX | 20:21 |
| industromatic | maybe a few months is all. | 20:21 |
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| industromatic | I wish Les Filip would get his shop solvent long enough to build that CNC router. | 20:22 |
| QuantumG | I'm not sure it's relevant here, but I dunno where else I'd talk about it.. I found out the other day that a friend of mine started using Ubuntu about a year ago on his primary computer at my recommendation (I vaguely recall saying "Windows won't run on it? Install Ubuntu!") and hasn't felt any desire to switch back or nagged me about anything he can't get working. | 20:22 |
| industromatic | Ubuntu's good. | 20:22 |
| industromatic | I use debian and sometimes get into upgrade hell because I try new things. | 20:23 |
| industromatic | Ubuntu avoids that somewhat. But you can't try new thigs as easy. | 20:23 |
| industromatic | I just figured how to use git submodules and am calling it a day. | 20:25 |
| kanzure | night, me too | 20:25 |
| industromatic | g'night. | 20:25 |
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