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jrayhawk | kanzure: debian isn't actually a non-profit, SPI is | 00:00 |
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kanzure | does debian just get equipment/hardware donations at most? | 00:01 |
jrayhawk | No, there's a fair amount of sponsorship for conferences, for instance | 00:01 |
kanzure | i see "send us hardware!" plastered everywhere but iirc that's because some hardware is really wacky shit and hard to come by | 00:01 |
kanzure | ah | 00:01 |
jrayhawk | The SPI page probably has more useful information. | 00:01 |
kanzure | hm http://www.spi-inc.org/donations/ | 00:02 |
kanzure | haha "Please do not make donations payable to SPI member projects, such as "Debian"." | 00:02 |
joshcryer | I decided becoming a non-profit is a very very painful process that I'd rather hire someone else to do for me: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p557.pdf | 00:03 |
joshcryer | (I've done my own taxes for years but this is just bullshit crazy shit.) | 00:03 |
jrayhawk | oh wow, SPI umbrellas a lot more than I thought it did. | 00:03 |
kanzure | hehe openoffice.org | 00:06 |
kanzure | http://www.spi-inc.org/corporate/by-laws/ | 00:07 |
joshcryer | Are these projects that they funnel direct donations to or are they just grant supported projects? | 00:08 |
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kanzure | i bet they are direct donations | 00:10 |
kanzure | why does SPI have "members" that "vote" ? | 00:10 |
joshcryer | Become an umbrella corp for SPI, ???, H+? | 00:12 |
kanzure | > | 00:12 |
kanzure | ? | 00:12 |
kanzure | what are you talking about | 00:12 |
joshcryer | Erm, a group umbrella'd by SPI. | 00:12 |
kanzure | i'm sorry but you've made very little sense tonight and i'm going with my original assessment that you're probably high/drunk | 00:13 |
* kanzure sleeps | 00:13 | |
joshcryer | I have a cold. | 00:18 |
joshcryer | And I think the whole anime/vocaloid thing intermixed with random name suggestions confused me. | 00:18 |
fenn | "SPI is a non-profit organization which was founded to help organizations develop and distribute open hardware and software." | 00:37 |
fenn | interesting that they actually said hardware | 00:37 |
kanzure | they mean drivers | 00:38 |
kanzure | also i just committed some bad python for parsing meetlog.txt | 00:39 |
kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/meetlog/log/ | 00:39 |
fenn | http://evolvedmachines.com/ was trying to remember this a long while ago, anatomically-truthy neural net based object recognition | 00:44 |
fenn | is globalforesight.org john smart's personal bookmarks? | 00:44 |
kanzure | no i suspect he has another website for that | 00:45 |
archels | Isn't Numenta trying to do something similar? | 00:45 |
kanzure | oh boy here we go :P | 00:45 |
kanzure | ok now i'm really asleep. night | 00:45 |
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kanzure | colors *ee* http://diyhpl.us/cgit/meetlog/commit/?id=d5a426e7e954b83079c0d9e83ea2a00a963144fc | 00:45 |
archels | julian blake kongslie: [omgwallhack, piny, git, pinyconfig, typos, typoer, loser, dumb-butt] | 00:46 |
archels | dumb-butt? heh, heh. | 00:46 |
fenn | hmm i wonder when he's going to make an RSS feed of that | 00:48 |
fenn | then i can skip reading the backlog with confidence | 00:48 |
kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/meetlog/atom/?h=master | 00:48 |
fenn | not quite | 00:49 |
kanzure | i don't think this is as useful as it should be anyway | 00:49 |
kanzure | tags aren't the same thing as keeping explicit track of things i have told you ("update-humanityplus-vol5") | 00:50 |
fenn | don't tread too far into the RDF muck | 00:50 |
kanzure | no i mean the original point was to keep track of 100 topics for at least 1000 people | 00:50 |
kanzure | i don't think tags == topics | 00:50 |
fenn | no? | 00:51 |
fenn | most of the tags are topics | 00:51 |
kanzure | "oh, did i tell you about x? well, <excitement> <linkdump>" | 00:51 |
kanzure | asking that "did i tell you about x?" is the question that should be answered by this | 00:51 |
kanzure | but just listing tags isn't really enough | 00:51 |
fenn | well, tag networks would be a start | 00:52 |
joshcryer | joshcryer: ["#hplusroadmap", cad, parametric cad, objects, coffee mugs, coffee cups, cups, mugs, donuts, bicycles] | 00:52 |
joshcryer | hahaha | 00:52 |
joshcryer | you do get the topological joke about coffee cups and donuts right? :P | 00:53 |
kanzure | yes | 00:53 |
fenn | for example coffee and donuts are related tags | 00:53 |
kanzure | i committed some code for finding related tags | 00:53 |
kanzure | check the tree i guess | 00:53 |
fenn | you'd need a larger dataset though i gues | 00:53 |
kanzure | this is a huge dataset | 00:54 |
fenn | to have any statistical basis for determining what's related | 00:54 |
kanzure | check tag_recommendations in tag_extractor.py i guess | 00:55 |
kanzure | god this code sucks | 00:55 |
joshcryer | trent waddington / QuantumG: ["#hplusroadmap", australia, transhumanists, transhumanism, "person:trent waddington"] | 00:56 |
kanzure | about three months ago it took 8min to yaml.load() this | 00:56 |
joshcryer | hahaha fucking awesome | 00:56 |
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kanzure | joshcryer: look at | 00:56 |
joshcryer | you should add a dimwitted tag to mine kanzure | 00:56 |
joshcryer | or slow | 00:56 |
kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/meetlog/plain/meetlog.txt | 00:56 |
joshcryer | I like dimwitted though | 00:56 |
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kanzure | you can see previous interactions with trent there | 00:57 |
kanzure | anyway, 8min for a 1.5MB file | 00:57 |
kanzure | i'm guessing maybe 12min for this 2MB file | 00:57 |
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kanzure | i wrote a dumper to throw it into a django project (and whatever db it uses) | 00:58 |
kanzure | some things are faster this way, like querying for individuals | 00:58 |
kanzure | but querying for related tag sets etc. is still a hefty computation | 00:58 |
fenn | where does perry metzger hang out now? | 00:59 |
joshcryer | my email is joshcryer@gmail.com (very out there so I don't care about it being in someones dataset) | 00:59 |
kanzure | fenn: nowhere in particular | 00:59 |
kanzure | i was talking with perry the other day about mark sims, etc. | 00:59 |
fenn | yes i see that :P | 01:00 |
kanzure | oright | 01:00 |
fenn | what's the huge blob of emails tagged [facebook] | 01:02 |
kanzure | imported all of my facebook friends that had public email addresses | 01:02 |
kanzure | via yahoo.. steps: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1894996 | 01:02 |
fenn | haha 10 sec on phone with gf | 01:05 |
fenn | now i'm wondering if this is automatically entered or not | 01:05 |
kanzure | aleah is uh not a gf | 01:05 |
kanzure | she's a weird person because of how often she appears in my logs | 01:05 |
joshcryer | is she single | 01:06 |
kanzure | she's gay | 01:06 |
joshcryer | damn | 01:06 |
joshcryer | (see, slow/dimwitted) | 01:06 |
* Utopiah wonders if there is an H+ dating site dedicated to exchange DNA sequence, EEG readings, etc | 01:07 | |
fenn | astrology for nerds~ | 01:07 |
kanzure | READ YOUR DNA $100/bp | 01:07 |
kanzure | fuck the law of accelerating returns | 01:08 |
kanzure | i wish i could easily explain a person | 01:09 |
joshcryer | NERD RAPTURE THE END IS SOON | 01:10 |
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fenn | huh michael shiloh is with qi hardware? | 02:50 |
fenn | er, sorry bad info nm | 02:53 |
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pasky | kanzure: we're still so clueless about how much is epigenetic anyway.. (but it seems _a lot_ of stuff) | 03:09 |
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archels | Mhm, interactive picture not loading for anyone else? http://mouse.brain-map.org/viewImage.do?imageId=130932 | 04:44 |
killall-9 | "Your Adobe Flash Player must be version 10.1.85 or greater to run the Single Image (high resolution) Viewer." | 04:53 |
killall-9 | blah | 04:53 |
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archels | ah, I never got that error. All the other Flash is working, but looks like this box has 10.0. | 05:04 |
archels | thanks | 05:04 |
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kanzure | two papers to eventually fetch: | 08:48 |
kanzure | "A Mars hopping vehicle propelled by a radioisotope thermal rocket: thermofluid design and materials selection" | 08:48 |
kanzure | "Sequestering atmospheric carbon dioxide by increasing ocean alkalinity" | 08:49 |
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archels | re #2, WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong? | 09:03 |
klafka | if something scales quadratically in time, does that mean if right now it takes 3hrs to do something, if i double the size of the task it takes 9hrs ? | 09:04 |
archels | yes | 09:08 |
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kanzure | archels: how could it be any worse than my plan to drain the gulf of mexico | 09:20 |
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phryk | :D | 09:29 |
phryk | Now, I imagine kanzure pulling a giant plug in the middle of the ocean :D | 09:29 |
kanzure | technically nobody would notice until it was too late | 09:31 |
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kanzure | hmm alibre.com's latest newsletter mentions ponoko | 10:23 |
archels | Sweet, I need a frontpanel lasered soon. $2/min is as cheap as I can hope to find. | 10:26 |
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mheld | hey, you guys wouldn't happen to know any investors who are h+ focused? | 12:28 |
kanzure | a hanful.. | 12:34 |
kanzure | *handful | 12:34 |
mheld | kanzure: I'd love to contact them | 12:42 |
mheld | kanzure: would you mind if I stole their information from you? | 12:42 |
kanzure | what would you be contacting them about? | 12:44 |
mheld | kanzure: ideally investment, but I'd love to pick their brains a bit regarding h+ investors | 12:45 |
mheld | I'm only familiar with the boston-based software-company investors | 12:45 |
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drazak | kanzure: I'm friends with a guy that did 3rd gen solar cell research | 13:32 |
drazak | kanzure: nanoparticles | 13:32 |
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kanzure | gah i spent two hours struggling with vmware trying to get bridging to work properly | 13:56 |
drazak | hahaha | 13:57 |
drazak | good fucking luck | 13:57 |
kanzure | hm? | 13:57 |
drazak | that shits been broken for 3 versions | 13:57 |
kanzure | orly | 13:57 |
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kanzure | fenn: that dna astrology idea sounds like a winner | 14:30 |
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QuantumG | http://twtpoll.com/oqujgr did you vote? | 15:39 |
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kanzure | hm i don't recall watching this "Biohacking - an overview" from HOPE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMhLHCswYdI | 16:13 |
QuantumG | I have the feeling that people will be giving talks like that next year too | 16:18 |
QuantumG | (and the year after) | 16:18 |
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kanzure | i <3 IDA | 16:47 |
QuantumG | its pretty cool | 16:47 |
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Ybit | So what's new? | 17:24 |
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kanzure | hi delinquentme | 18:50 |
delinquentme | kanzure, heya | 18:50 |
delinquentme | so is this like h+ magazine? | 18:51 |
nsh | more like h+ailEris! | 19:01 |
kanzure | delinquentme: no we hate hplusmagazine.com | 19:03 |
kanzure | it's a disaster | 19:04 |
kanzure | QuantumG: maybe you can help me out.. | 19:05 |
kanzure | QuantumG: i need to rewrite or hijack an installer and add a post-install action | 19:05 |
delinquentme | FALSE | 19:05 |
kanzure | QuantumG: is there a simple "encapsulate this program and track all changes it tries to make to the registry" program? | 19:05 |
QuantumG | kanzure: I don't remember exactly.. but there's some open installers around. | 19:06 |
* kanzure is not a windows luser :( | 19:06 | |
kanzure | yeah, NSIS, etc. | 19:06 |
QuantumG | regmon | 19:06 |
kanzure | but i'm not really sure what the current installer is doing under the hood | 19:06 |
kanzure | ok | 19:06 |
kanzure | the interweb tells me it has been replaced by Process Monitor? | 19:06 |
QuantumG | different program I thought | 19:07 |
QuantumG | I can put up my copy | 19:07 |
kanzure | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx | 19:08 |
QuantumG | http://quantumg.net/Regmon.exe | 19:09 |
kanzure | oh process explorer != process monitor | 19:13 |
QuantumG | k | 19:13 |
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QuantumG | hmm.. the purpose of the TSA is now clear to me. | 21:37 |
QuantumG | I feel stupid for not seeing this earlier. | 21:38 |
QuantumG | the government wants to search you.. but that whole getting a warrant thing is annoying.. so what do they do? | 21:38 |
QuantumG | well, they just wait for you to fly. | 21:39 |
Redeemer | Makes sense to me. | 21:56 |
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