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| sebastienb | night, all. | 00:51 |
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| Lukas_ | Good morning | 01:20 |
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| Lukas_ | http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1180944/1/index.htm | 04:15 |
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| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/thingiverse_data.tar.gz i still need to run this thruogh skdb/clients/thingiverse.py to parse all the data | 08:02 |
| kanzure | 23:14:05 omg/bryan: surely they know that by "you all suck" i mean "i love each and every one of you in your own special way" right? | 08:03 |
| Lukas_ | xD | 08:04 |
| Lukas_ | when was this? | 08:04 |
| kanzure | 23:14:05 | 08:04 |
| Lukas_ | last night, I assume | 08:07 |
| Lukas_ | I'm going to be afk (I am contacting Genspace) | 08:09 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: hey uh, i should be keeping a debian mirror for packages | 08:27 |
| kanzure | http://archive.amsuess.com/pool/main/o/opencsg/ | 08:27 |
| kanzure | http://archive.amsuess.com/pool/contrib/o/openscad/ | 08:27 |
| kanzure | https://m21.hyte.de/downloads/heekscad/ubuntu_10.04_2010-09-11/heekscad_0.14.1-svn1283_i386.deb | 08:27 |
| kanzure | http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/o/opencascade/ | 08:28 |
| kanzure | anyway.. where should i put these or is there a small tool i should be using for this? | 08:28 |
| kanzure | plus the piny debs | 08:29 |
| kanzure | hrm i wonder why openscad.deb depends on libcgal5 | 08:30 |
| kanzure | oh. duh. | 08:30 |
| kanzure | meh http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-StirrerHot-Plate/ | 08:45 |
| superkuh | I like it! | 08:54 |
| superkuh | (the hotplate/stirrer) | 08:55 |
| superkuh | I wouldn't think the flux would go through. | 08:56 |
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| Lukas_ | http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1180944/1/index.htm | 09:27 |
| Lukas_ | looks like Armstrong got busted | 09:27 |
| kanzure | pygear "A python module that serves as CAE/CAD-preprocessor for involute gears based on pythonOCC. It allows for the computation of dynamic properties and the creation of exact geometries from a minimal input set." | 09:53 |
| kanzure | http://sourceforge.net/projects/pygear/ | 09:53 |
| kanzure | ferrouswheel: looks like your buildbot is failing? http://buildbot.opencog.org/builders/opencog-full | 10:31 |
| kanzure | debarchiver was a waste of time.. in the mean time here's a set of .debs for heekscad/freecad/opencascade/nanoengineer/etc. | 10:38 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/packages/ | 10:38 |
| jebba | moin | 10:54 |
| kanzure | hi jebba | 10:55 |
| jebba | started some assembly of a Makerbot cupcake: http://www.alephobjects.com/photos/printers/makerbot/cupcake/ | 10:56 |
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| thesnark | hey kanzure | 11:32 |
| kanzure | hi thesnark | 11:42 |
| kanzure | hi rumb42 | 11:42 |
| rumb42 | o/ kanzure - just watching to see what's in here ;) | 11:42 |
| kanzure | rumb42: /topic points to logs btw | 11:42 |
| rumb42 | ah - thanks! | 11:43 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: is there an ikiwiki plugin that would conceivably replace cgit? | 11:45 |
| delinquentme | have any of you guys seen input devices that rival the speed ( or exceed ) that of a keybaord? | 11:55 |
| delinquentme | i've heard there are xbox style "controller" which can be used as keyboard inputs | 11:55 |
| kanzure | stenography machines | 11:56 |
| kanzure | chorded keyboards | 11:56 |
| kanzure | acceleratometer gloves | 11:56 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: what's the point of using ikiwiki if cgit is "dynamically generated" anyway? | 11:59 |
| delinquentme | anything with the specific purposes of preventing repetative stress injury .. which could be coded with? | 11:59 |
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| kanzure | hi keen_101, elmom | 13:21 |
| jrayhawk | because HEAD is the thing basically everyone actually cares about | 13:31 |
| jrayhawk | cgit's compile products would be a lot less irritating if cgit were to check timestamps of its dependencies | 13:32 |
| jrayhawk | s/its/their/ | 13:32 |
| jrayhawk | I could sortof understand making a configurable set of diffs available inside of ikiwiki | 13:33 |
| jrayhawk | and having 'revert' buttons available for them | 13:34 |
| kanzure | thrpp screw it i'll just write dynamically-generated stuff and get it done in under a week.. | 13:34 |
| kanzure | then complain for the next 5 years about infrastructure scaling issues | 13:34 |
| jrayhawk | okay. if you clone piny-code and ./builddebs inside of it, all the commands should be properly noninteractive now | 13:35 |
| jrayhawk | so you can actually call them safely in executable form in an automated manner | 13:35 |
| kanzure | cool | 13:36 |
| kanzure | the way that github does multiple user authentication is kind of funny now that i think about it | 13:36 |
| kanzure | "all users must push via git@github.com:/username" | 13:36 |
| jrayhawk | the git user probably has a magic shell that works out that nonsense dynamically | 13:39 |
| jrayhawk | re: debian mirror: debian.svcs.cs.pdx.edu is already sitting on the same box as you; if you want i can just add stuff to the rsync list | 13:39 |
| kanzure | that would be nice of you | 13:40 |
| jrayhawk | What's missing from it? | 13:40 |
| kanzure | the packages are in gnusha:/home/bryan/public_html/irc/packages/ | 13:41 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/packages/ | 13:41 |
| AlonzoTG | My internet was down for 18 hours beginning Midnight last night. But since I am not an upload, I was able to fix it. | 13:41 |
| AlonzoTG | If I were an upload I'd be effectively dead with no way to do anything. | 13:41 |
| kanzure | AlonzoTG: because uploads can't use /dev/servo? you're silly | 13:42 |
| AlonzoTG | =\ | 13:44 |
| AlonzoTG | Why does my computer always wait until Friday evening to break? | 13:44 |
| jrayhawk | uh... so... what am i mirroring | 13:45 |
| jrayhawk | this does not appear to be a debian repository | 13:46 |
| kanzure | yeah i gave up with debarchiver | 13:46 |
| AlonzoTG | What the hell are you talking about? | 13:46 |
| kanzure | AlonzoTG: read the logs or shutup | 13:46 |
| kanzure | geeze. :P | 13:46 |
| AlonzoTG | Why are you talking about version control archives in a transhumanist room? | 13:46 |
| kanzure | AlonzoTG: more importantly, why aren't *you*? | 13:46 |
| AlonzoTG | I try to skim the logs but they make no sense to me. | 13:46 |
| jrayhawk | hahaha this room is for ineffectual prognostication only | 13:46 |
| jrayhawk | NO ACCOMPLISHING THINGS ALLOWED | 13:47 |
| AlonzoTG | Please zoom out a layer of abstraction, | 13:47 |
| AlonzoTG | What project are you working on? | 13:47 |
| kanzure | Operation Joe Hosts Lots of Bryan's Random Debs | 13:47 |
| jrayhawk | ah, so you want a repository rather than a mirror | 13:47 |
| kanzure | doi? i don't know what i want here- just that these should be in the same place and easy for others to grab | 13:48 |
| AlonzoTG | Please zoom out a layer of abstraction and explain to me what you are working on. | 13:48 |
| AlonzoTG | I don't even know which repository you are talking about, | 13:48 |
| AlonzoTG | what's in it, | 13:48 |
| AlonzoTG | or why it's relevant to this channel. | 13:48 |
| kanzure | AlonzoTG: these are the orphaned .debs | 13:49 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/packages/ | 13:49 |
| kanzure | opencascade, heekscad, freecad, nanoengineer, openscad | 13:49 |
| jrayhawk | I don't really have the patient to run a parent repository, so, yeah, go ahead with whatever you want to do on gnusha | 13:49 |
| jrayhawk | Jules has done quite a bit of repository-creation, though, so you might be able to interest him in it. | 13:50 |
| jrayhawk | s/patient/patience | 13:50 |
| AlonzoTG | http://sourceforge.net/projects/ktechlab/ | 13:50 |
| AlonzoTG | Do any of those packages do anything interesting? | 13:50 |
| kanzure | AlonzoTG: nanoengineer is open-source nanotech CAD; opencascade is a CAD kernel for 3D mechanical engineering; etc. | 13:51 |
| AlonzoTG | I'm not smart enough to use those effectively. | 13:51 |
| AlonzoTG | =\ | 13:51 |
| AlonzoTG | Or rather I project it would not be time effective for me to work on those because it would be 10,000 times more efficient to sic an AI on the problem. | 13:52 |
| kanzure | uh, just read the documentation? | 13:52 |
| kanzure | lol 10,000 times more efficient to use something that doesn't exist? | 13:52 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: ok | 13:52 |
| uniqanomaly_ | haha, good one | 13:53 |
| AlonzoTG | Yes, because my project would require me to understand approximately 2,000,000 different organic molecules, my human brain is not capable of processing that much information so therefore I require an AI to do it. | 13:53 |
| jrayhawk | nanoengineering is mostly done with non-reactives | 13:53 |
| AlonzoTG | Yes, but does it actually work? | 13:54 |
| AlonzoTG | =P | 13:54 |
| AlonzoTG | Not yet. | 13:54 |
| kanzure | nanoengineer's older snapshot works | 13:54 |
| AlonzoTG | But that's applying 19th century machine technologies to a 21st century problem. | 13:54 |
| kanzure | http://fitzsim.org/packages/NanoEngineer-1-1.1.1.12-0.3.fc12.src.rpm | 13:54 |
| kanzure | http://nanoengineer-1.com/snapshots/NanoEngineer-1_Suite_v1.1.1.14.exe | 13:54 |
| kanzure | http://nanoengineer-1.com/snapshots/NanoEngineer-1_Suite_v1.1.1.12.tar.gz | 13:54 |
| jrayhawk | man, you took my 'ineffectual prognostication only' edict way too seriously | 13:55 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: are you trying to say i should stop feeding the troll? | 13:55 |
| AlonzoTG | Does the package have a website? Can I actually use the software for anything? | 13:56 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/nanoengineer | 13:56 |
| AlonzoTG | That is not to say I don't applaud the effort, | 13:56 |
| kanzure | http://nanoengineer-1.net/ | 13:56 |
| kanzure | if you like pictures: http://nanoengineer-1.com/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=50 | 13:56 |
| jrayhawk | Jonano at least had specific goals in mind when he was being irritatingly disruptive. | 13:57 |
| kanzure | becoming a billionaire? | 13:58 |
| jrayhawk | He very clearly cared about his poorly-thought-out projects. | 13:58 |
| AlonzoTG | OK, I guess I don't have anything useful to say about nanotechnology. =( | 14:00 |
| AlonzoTG | My problem is that there is nothing I can do with that software except produce pretty pictures. | 14:01 |
| AlonzoTG | So therefore I find it difficult to find anything interesting about it. | 14:01 |
| kanzure | ok then get to work: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/freitas_process.txt | 14:01 |
| kanzure | http://www.molecularassembler.com/Nanofactory/Challenges.htm | 14:02 |
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| AlonzoTG | Yeah, nanotech has been promising for decades, I even joined a group called the "nanotechnology dream team" about 13 years ago. | 14:03 |
| AlonzoTG | but then I can't see it ever becoming practical without AI, Indeed, drexler even proposed an AI system to advance the design of his nanotech in Engines of Creation written so many years ago. | 14:04 |
| kanzure | did you read either of those two links? | 14:05 |
| AlonzoTG | I'm looking at the second one. | 14:05 |
| kanzure | just finished uploading: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers/bacteriorhodopsin_memory/ | 14:06 |
| AlonzoTG | Hmm, | 14:09 |
| AlonzoTG | Now that the cobwebs on that side of my brain are starting to clear, it seems plausible that it might be possible to nano-fabricate computer parts on a scale of less than 1cm^3 | 14:10 |
| AlonzoTG | Those might be extremely effective... | 14:10 |
| AlonzoTG | And any fabrication process that could yield good volume and cost less than about half a gigaclam to capitalize could make you a mint... That's about all you could do with it though, | 14:11 |
| AlonzoTG | Because logic gates are relatively simple and have simple structures. | 14:11 |
| AlonzoTG | You would need to understand a ton of quantum mechanics though... | 14:11 |
| AlonzoTG | But large scale products are pretty much out of the question until you have AI... | 14:12 |
| AlonzoTG | That can deal with all the messyness. | 14:12 |
| kanzure | what messyness? | 14:12 |
| kanzure | what is it with you and ai? just assume it doesn't exist and solve the problem | 14:12 |
| Lukas_ | xD | 14:12 |
| AlonzoTG | <<< is too lazy. | 14:12 |
| Lukas_ | Don't underestimate the power of the collective human mind | 14:13 |
| AlonzoTG | Moot cuz I don't have access to any minds other than my own. =( | 14:13 |
| Lukas_ | :( | 14:14 |
| Lukas_ | ... | 14:14 |
| Lukas_ | in that case, your best bet is AI | 14:14 |
| Lukas_ | :P | 14:14 |
| AlonzoTG | In other news, I have 6 ounces of gold and change saved up for my NAO, I expect to need the worth of 11 ounces... | 14:14 |
| AlonzoTG | After that I'll need the server... | 14:15 |
| AlonzoTG | Which will cost about 13 ounces of gold... | 14:15 |
| AlonzoTG | U know what would change the world? | 14:18 |
| AlonzoTG | A 1-nanosecond memory cell! | 14:18 |
| AlonzoTG | That is not any bigger than today's D-ram cells. | 14:18 |
| Lukas_ | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers/gene-therapy/Gene%20therapy%20for%20red-green%20color%20blindness%20in%20adult%20primates%20-%202009.pdf | 14:30 |
| Lukas_ | isn't working | 14:30 |
| kanzure | what's not working about it | 14:31 |
| Lukas_ | "Failed to Load PDF Document" | 14:32 |
| kanzure | what pdf client are you using? | 14:32 |
| Lukas_ | Adobe | 14:33 |
| keen_101 | hi, kanzure. (i was away from my computer) | 14:40 |
| keen_101 | out of curiosity i tried it too. the pdf doesn't work for me either. (gnome document reader) | 14:44 |
| jrayhawk | that's because it's html that says <title>IIS 7.0 Detailed Error - 404.0 - Not Found</title> | 14:47 |
| jrayhawk | kanzure's scrapers apparently don't check for status codes | 14:47 |
| kanzure | gee that's a good reason for it to fail, isn't it | 14:48 |
| kanzure | hrm | 14:48 |
| jrayhawk | the 'file' utility can be useful for working out which are broken | 14:49 |
| kanzure | ok should be fixed now | 14:58 |
| Lukas_ | thanks | 15:06 |
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| AlonzoTG | OK, so how does fiddling with the tiny number of atoms the human brain can comprehend fit into your quest for total world domination? | 15:13 |
| thesnark | Obvious. Control at the atom level means a finer grain of control, so he can control all humans more easily. | 15:14 |
| thesnark | It may also make controlling other humans cheaper | 15:14 |
| kanzure | AlonzoTG: have you ever used avogadro's number for anything? | 15:15 |
| AlonzoTG | It seems my brain is suffering the after effects of my recent bout of internet deprivation. =( | 15:15 |
| thesnark | kanzure is our infallible leader, like Kim Jong Il only for his special quest to create Calxism | 15:15 |
| AlonzoTG | Yes, that's my point. | 15:15 |
| AlonzoTG | Today's computers can only count to around 10^18th, so it would seem that they would have difficulty dealing with that many atoms... | 15:16 |
| AlonzoTG | Actually 1.6 * 10^19 to be exact. | 15:16 |
| AlonzoTG | So for objects larger than a few cm^2, you're asking your computer to be atomically precise about a number of atoms larger than it can count... | 15:17 |
| thesnark | 10^18 is only 64 bits... | 15:18 |
| AlonzoTG | Yep... | 15:18 |
| AlonzoTG | I use a 64 bit computer. | 15:18 |
| kanzure | algorithmically creating atomically precise structures is pretty easy even if you can't count each atom | 15:18 |
| kanzure | a drilling bit easily has many trillions of atoms, but you don't see solidworks crashing | 15:18 |
| thesnark | 1) Architectures supporting > 64 bits have been created 2) It wouldn't be too big of a stretch to design your own 3) larger counts are achievable in parallel | 15:18 |
| thesnark | You may have to deal with the data a little differently | 15:19 |
| thesnark | but you can count higher than that | 15:19 |
| kanzure | some of the nanoengineer people want to visualize ridiculous numbers of atoms simultaneously, but i'm not sure that's ever really needed.. maybe visualizing a few 100k's of atoms at once, but beyond that you don't "see" atoms any more | 15:19 |
| AlonzoTG | Yeah, I'm aware of some of the techniques, You abstract away regularly structured sub-assemblies. | 15:19 |
| AlonzoTG | or use fractal patterning. | 15:20 |
| thesnark | so 10^23 is really not such a big deal | 15:20 |
| AlonzoTG | 6.04 * 10^23... | 15:20 |
| AlonzoTG | =\ | 15:20 |
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| thesnark | I'm not a retard, I was ballparking | 15:21 |
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| AlonzoTG | But yeah, a 1-nS high-density ram cell could really change the world, | 15:23 |
| AlonzoTG | It could multiply the performance of today's computers on large dataset problems by a factor of ten, instantly! | 15:23 |
| AlonzoTG | Actually, to really max out my current chip, it would be awesome to have a few terabytes of 300 pS RAM on | 15:25 |
| AlonzoTG | -chip | 15:25 |
| AlonzoTG | I'll have to double-check the architectual limits of my chip... | 15:26 |
| AlonzoTG | but yeah, that should be feasible with only a few hundred layers of cells on a square cM of space... | 15:26 |
| AlonzoTG | -- basically replace the die area devoted to L3 cache. | 15:27 |
| AlonzoTG | and external memory interface... | 15:27 |
| kanzure | ok well get back to me when you're done building your semiconductor fab for that | 15:27 |
| AlonzoTG | It would be a double benefit to the 6000 series opteron because the chip was limited by a 2,000 pin budget, if both the 128 bit memory controllers never had to talk to anything outside the module, that would make things much easier. | 15:28 |
| AlonzoTG | !!! | 15:28 |
| AlonzoTG | I thought that was the entire point of your work in nanotech????? | 15:28 |
| AlonzoTG | I thought you were talking about nanotech and the clearest short-term goal for nanotech are computer parts, and the easiest sub-unit of a computer to work on is the D-RAM because all you need to do is figure out how a cell works, and then multiply it by a few trillion... | 15:30 |
| kanzure | truly you have a dizzying intellect | 15:31 |
| AlonzoTG | So what the fuck are you working on anyway? (this is far from the first time I've asked you this) | 15:31 |
| kanzure | http://gnusha.org/skdb/ is a pretty good interview | 15:32 |
| kanzure | overview | 15:32 |
| AlonzoTG | I guess that might be useful... | 15:35 |
| AlonzoTG | I don't have any machine tools, | 15:35 |
| AlonzoTG | nor enough needs to justify obtaining machine tools (not counting the space limitations of a townhouse). | 15:35 |
| AlonzoTG | and the needs I do have seem to exceed the capabilities of the machine tools I can obtain... | 15:36 |
| AlonzoTG | I am in the process of spending $400 to have a spline cut in a shaft coupler to turn the input shaft on my project car's transmission. | 15:36 |
| AlonzoTG | Another problem is engineering and fabricating a motor mount... | 15:37 |
| AlonzoTG | When you get to a problem such as "fab me a GF", then there seem to be a hundred sub-problems that seem to come before dealing with pushing blue-prints around. | 15:39 |
| AlonzoTG | Not that I'm saying your work isn't valuable, it is, it is just not something I can get into right now, because I have a ton of other work in front of me. | 15:39 |
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| Lukas_ | Is everyone here working on something? | 15:41 |
| thesnark | Have a project in mind? | 15:42 |
| Lukas_ | Yes, but it can't really be done right now | 15:48 |
| Lukas_ | afk (chores) | 15:48 |
| keen_101 | kanzure, interesting work with the skdb stuff. I've seen you mention it before, but i guess i just never took the time to figure out what it was. The video helped a lot. | 16:00 |
| keen_101 | what hardware do you already have personally? | 16:00 |
| kanzure | most of the stuff i have access to is community-owned or whatever | 16:08 |
| kanzure | but i do "personally own" a laser cutter and robotic arm i guess | 16:08 |
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| Lukas_ | Hullo | 16:29 |
| jebba | kanzure, you know of any good collaborative project management/todo-list?. Would be nice to tie into a skdb workflow for making an object. | 16:43 |
| kanzure | basecamp :P but it's not free software | 16:43 |
| kanzure | openpario | 16:44 |
| kanzure | http://openpario.mime.oregonstate.edu/ | 16:44 |
| Lukas_ | By any chance does anyone have the genome pdf of AAV2 (or any type of AAV)? | 16:50 |
| jebba | openpario built on http://www.redmine.org/ | 16:53 |
| Lukas_ | Kanzure, this is for your archive on gene therapy: http://kaylab.stanford.edu/manuscripts/BLOOD99Russell.pdf | 16:56 |
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| kanzure | jebba: did that help? | 17:06 |
| kanzure | Lukas_: what is a "genome pdf of AAV" ? | 17:06 |
| kanzure | do you mean one of those plasmid maps? | 17:07 |
| Lukas_ | yes | 17:10 |
| Lukas_ | or ' AATTGCGTATG' | 17:10 |
| kanzure | oh, no, bioinformatics people are smarter than that- they don't publish genomes in pdf format | 17:11 |
| kanzure | instead they use plain text | 17:11 |
| Lukas_ | O.o? | 17:11 |
| kanzure | look it up on one of the ncbi subsites | 17:11 |
| Lukas_ | alright | 17:11 |
| Lukas_ | thanks | 17:11 |
| Lukas_ | wow, that was easier than I thought | 17:17 |
| Lukas_ | ... | 17:17 |
| Lukas_ | still, I'd be nice to have a pdf | 17:18 |
| rumb42 | import into openoffice, export to pdf ? | 17:22 |
| jebba | kanzure, i'm creating an install to install redmine right now. | 17:23 |
| AlonzoTG | I'd tend to use a bit compacted coding, with 3 letters per byte... | 17:24 |
| AlonzoTG | maybe 4 | 17:24 |
| AlonzoTG | cuz you only got 2 bits worth of info per letter, max! | 17:24 |
| AlonzoTG | I'm still missing the big picture.... | 17:25 |
| AlonzoTG | Ppl seem to be talking about nanotech and home fabrication but I still don't grasp the connection to transhumanism... | 17:26 |
| * AlonzoTG goes AFK to watch a bunch of classic Star Trek. | 17:26 | |
| thesnark | If people have the materials to create transhuman tech on their own...it is helpful to people who want to be transhumanists | 17:27 |
| AlonzoTG | I guess, I just feel that I'm too many decades away from being able to use such tools that I have great difficulty caring. | 17:28 |
| thesnark | Then don't care | 17:28 |
| fenn | did ion torrent just recently un-stealth or something? why did i never hear of this? | 17:28 |
| thesnark | Any movement has to start somewhere | 17:29 |
| kanzure | fenn: they are the result of a merger with life science technologies methinks | 17:29 |
| kanzure | fenn: but yes they were just launching.. stuff | 17:29 |
| kanzure | gournea was hanging out in here for a while; he apparently works for them | 17:29 |
| fenn | the videos don't work.. meh | 17:29 |
| kanzure | 'Mark Maxham' just posted on twister.. apparently he works at pacific bio. cool | 17:30 |
| fenn | they say each nucleotide is incorporated "in a matter of seconds" - okay, that's really slow with n=1 so how many wells do they have per chip? | 17:30 |
| fenn | and what's the max read length | 17:30 |
| kanzure | i hear about 2M wells per plate lately.. | 17:30 |
| kanzure | don't have a citation for you though | 17:31 |
| kanzure | dbolser: you might know.. | 17:31 |
| fenn | today i received topps lolcats stickers (with requisite fossilized bubble gum) as a gift | 17:33 |
| fenn | copyright 1982! | 17:33 |
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| kanzure | timschmidt: svn co https://reprap.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/reprap/trunk/users/erik/stl2web | 17:51 |
| kanzure | timschmidt: i'm wondering if this was originally erik's handy work | 17:51 |
| kanzure | r3317 | erikdebruijn | 2009-10-15 05:10:54 -0700 (Thu, 15 Oct 2009) | 2 lines | 17:51 |
| kanzure | "Added my STL2WEB tool to SVN." | 17:51 |
| kanzure | no revision history though so it doesn't matter | 17:52 |
| timschmidt | http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/software/#stl2pov this guy seems to have been hacking on it for some time | 17:54 |
| timschmidt | many changelog entries | 17:54 |
| ferrouswheel | kanzure: buildbot has been borken by a couple of tests for a while | 17:55 |
| ferrouswheel | but hopefully will be fixed soon now that we have a few people working full time on it | 17:56 |
| kanzure | full time workers? are these ben's new xiamen uni students? | 17:58 |
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| kanzure | timschmidt: wow the rendering quality is significantly less than i recalled.. | 18:09 |
| kanzure | lots of work to do | 18:10 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/wineglass.stl | 18:16 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/wineglass.png | 18:16 |
| kanzure | for anyone following along at home.. git clone git://github.com/timschmidt/stl2pov | 18:16 |
| kanzure | compare to: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1224 | 18:17 |
| fenn | use multiple light sources | 18:17 |
| fenn | also, the scaling sucks | 18:17 |
| kanzure | http://thingiverse-production.s3.amazonaws.com/renders/34/57/db/d4/1e/wineglass_display_medium.jpg | 18:18 |
| timschmidt | it does | 18:18 |
| fenn | also, that's not the same model | 18:18 |
| fenn | thingiverse probably uses "ambient" lighting | 18:18 |
| kanzure | true.. but setting up a grid, better colors, etc. is a good idea | 18:18 |
| fenn | the grid is stupid | 18:19 |
| timschmidt | right | 18:19 |
| fenn | a bounding box with actual dimensions might be useful (like emc does) | 18:19 |
| timschmidt | fenn: why do you say? it's nice to have a point of reference for size | 18:19 |
| kanzure | haha what's the size/scale of the grid? | 18:19 |
| timschmidt | 1cm grids would be nice | 18:19 |
| timschmidt | IDK about thingiverse's grids | 18:19 |
| kanzure | fenn: screenshots or it's not real? | 18:20 |
| kanzure | emc box thing | 18:20 |
| timschmidt | better yet would be a dynamic grid with grid size that made sense for the model sie | 18:20 |
| timschmidt | size | 18:20 |
| kanzure | for stl it's not easy to determine size.. for other file origins i'm sure i'll extract dimensions | 18:21 |
| timschmidt | ? somehow STLs I generate from myriad applications all come out appropriately sized when printed. | 18:21 |
| timschmidt | there must be a convention | 18:21 |
| fenn | don't see any off-axis shots, but it works in any orientation http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/uploads/axis-lathe-mm.png | 18:22 |
| kanzure | oh, actual text deliminating the dimensions, yeah | 18:22 |
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| kanzure | i wonder if it would be more productive to say screw it and just use webgl | 18:28 |
| kanzure | gah emails from/to me and rsmith.. from 2009 :/ | 18:29 |
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| fenn | i dont understand why you need to use pov-ray for this | 18:31 |
| fenn | is there really nothing that takes an stl input and generates an image with standard flat shading? | 18:31 |
| kanzure | headless opengl with GL_SHADING? | 18:32 |
| kanzure | rsmith's camera suggestions http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/rsmith-camera.txt | 18:34 |
| kanzure | opencascade + yafaray.. probably not better than povray http://code.google.com/p/occray/ | 18:35 |
| fenn | forget about raytracers | 18:35 |
| kanzure | i have never had opengl working without xorg | 18:36 |
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| fenn | how about http://sourceforge.net/projects/viewstl/ | 18:38 |
| fenn | i was looking at meshlab too | 18:39 |
| kanzure | yeah i use viewstl.. it's opengl btw | 18:39 |
| fenn | is it not possible to use opengl without X? | 18:40 |
| fenn | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/9v2qe/opengl_on_a_headless_server/ | 18:41 |
| kanzure | this might just mean "without a monitor" | 18:41 |
| kanzure | "On a headless server you could use Xvfb, the X Virtual Framebuffer. It's basically a "virtual" X server that runs without X. I believe the Ubuntu package is just called xvfb (in Fedora it's called xorg-x11-server-Xvfb)" | 18:43 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: you work with friggin' bart massey, don't you know weird/obscure xorg related things like this? | 18:44 |
| * fenn mumbles something about http://www.virtualgl.org/About/Introduction | 18:44 | |
| fenn | okay xvfb sounds about right | 18:45 |
| fenn | software opengl will still be a zillion times faster than raytracing | 18:47 |
| kanzure | xorg-x11-server-xvfb seems to depend on xorg? | 18:47 |
| kanzure | in an ideal world, hardware-accelerated opengl would not require xorg at all | 18:48 |
| fenn | meh | 18:48 |
| fenn | do you need xorg for gpgpu stuff? | 18:48 |
| kanzure | jules suggests osmesa | 18:52 |
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| fenn | "Mesa fbdev/DRI drivers" | 18:54 |
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| fenn | hah okay osmesa is probably what we want | 18:54 |
| kanzure | joe/jules help run x.org i figure they should at least have some non-negligible chance of knowing what they are talking about | 18:55 |
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| kanzure | http://www.mesa3d.org/osmesa.html heh yep | 18:57 |
| jebba | kanzure, set up http://projects.alephobjects.com/ as a test install of redmine | 18:58 |
| kanzure | i'm pretty sure it's just a ruby-based git hosting platform.. | 19:02 |
| kanzure | nothing to write home about :P | 19:02 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk is making piny, and others are cgit, gitweb, gitorious, gitosis, etc. | 19:02 |
| kanzure | actually gitorious might interest you.. | 19:03 |
| jebba | ya, i use gitorious github etc. But redmine is a totally different fish. | 19:03 |
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| jebba | redmine is what runs that URL you suggested earlier http://openpario.mime.oregonstate.edu/ (and now http://projects.alephobjects.com/ too) | 19:04 |
| kanzure | openpario has some extra stuff on top of redmine iirc | 19:04 |
| kanzure | also i know the openpario guys / they are ridiculously easy to approach (michael david koch in particular) | 19:05 |
| kanzure | they probably have their source up for download somewhere.. or if not they will hand it out | 19:05 |
| jebba | ya, likely they've done lots on it as they have a pretty extensive site, but this looks decent | 19:06 |
| fenn | techzone is selling printed kits now? | 19:08 |
| jebba | yes, i got a prusa from them | 19:09 |
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| fenn | what is "techzone modified" exactly? did they provide the source files? | 19:09 |
| * timschmidt operated the MiRUG booth, next to the techzone folks, at Maker Faire Detroit | 19:11 | |
| timschmidt | They were reasonably friendly... | 19:14 |
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| jrayhawk | Actually it's rare that I help out with any fd.o stuff directly. | 19:27 |
| kanzure | do you at least take credit where it's undue? | 19:27 |
| jebba | fenn, yes they provided files AFAIK. Check the huxley page on reprap wiki | 19:28 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, you wouldn't happen to know this antonei csoka fellow would you? | 19:51 |
| kanzure | i don't think so.. who is it? | 19:52 |
| delinquentme | one of the guys on your video .. hes a bio gerontologist from u pitt | 19:52 |
| delinquentme | erm your hplus videos | 19:53 |
| kanzure | are you sure that's the spelling fo his name? | 19:55 |
| kanzure | you might be thinking of Attila Csordas but he's not really a gerontologist.. | 19:55 |
| kanzure | fenn: https://github.com/certik/osmesa/blob/master/test.py | 19:56 |
| kanzure | i wonder where it's rendering to? | 19:56 |
| delinquentme | http://diyhpl.us:9000/s/exploring-life-extension-imminst-film-part-1-11 @ 634 | 19:56 |
| fenn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonei_Csoka | 19:57 |
| delinquentme | 6:34 .. hes just commenting on the | 19:57 |
| delinquentme | yeah^ | 19:57 |
| fenn | "Mesa's off-screen rendering interface is used for rendering into user-allocated blocks of memory" | 19:58 |
| kanzure | fenn: see write_ppm https://github.com/certik/osmesa/blob/master/osdemo.c | 19:59 |
| fenn | presumably this is accessible by some function in osmesa.something_ctx | 19:59 |
| kanzure | blah | 19:59 |
| kanzure | yeah | 19:59 |
| kanzure | "write red, write green, write blue" hehe | 20:00 |
| fenn | "of course it's documented, in C" | 20:00 |
| kanzure | i'm not sure if this is ondrej certik (sympy certik) | 20:01 |
| kanzure | Ondřej Čertík.. guess so. | 20:02 |
| fenn | looks quite active on femhub | 20:02 |
| kanzure | "FEMhub is an open source distribution of scientific computing codes with a unified Python interface. Use the link on the left to see the current list of codes included. " | 20:03 |
| kanzure | i wish someone would put a stop to calling these programs and algorithms "codes" | 20:03 |
| kanzure | i know it's leftovers from the 50s/60s but come on, someone has to realize that it just doesn't work like that any more | 20:03 |
| fenn | that's how you know it's super scientific and numerical | 20:04 |
| kanzure | that's how you know it's fortran and should be burned | 20:04 |
| fenn | i wonder if github can display more than 99 repositories or if that's some sort of artificial limit | 20:06 |
| fenn | or maybe he just has 99 repositories | 20:06 |
| kanzure | so is it in github's best interest to encourage or discourage forking? lots of people "fork and forget" on github | 20:07 |
| fenn | "forking" isnt quite the same in git | 20:07 |
| fenn | most of what's on github amounts to patch submissions | 20:08 |
| fenn | they probably have some backend that only stores the diffs | 20:08 |
| kanzure | yeah, if you click 'fork' with their button | 20:08 |
| fenn | but you can fit a lot of code duplication on a 1TB drive | 20:08 |
| fenn | 2TB drives are now below $100 | 20:09 |
| fenn | i wonder if kurzweil has a clock showing the amount of various commodities you can purchase for $1000 | 20:09 |
| kanzure | does that mean i can now get a 1995 copy of the web from the internet archive? | 20:10 |
| fenn | if you ask nicely | 20:10 |
| kanzure | i'd be willing to donate money to internet archive if they weren't a single point of failure.. or flaky.. | 20:11 |
| jebba | kanzure, may i suggest adding "shop" as a place where fabrication occurs, which may be more that 1 in a project. e.g. shop in CZ has laser, shop in DE has welding iron, etc. | 20:12 |
| fenn | jebba why do all your demos require a login? | 20:13 |
| jebba | ya, wayback machine is so slow, i wish it was google speed then it would be fun :) | 20:13 |
| jebba | fenn, cuz they are actually live and in use | 20:13 |
| jebba | but if you want to check them out /msg me and i can set you up | 20:14 |
| fenn | you can't just turn off editing for anonymous users? | 20:14 |
| jebba | to our bank account? etc. | 20:14 |
| fenn | your bank account? | 20:14 |
| fenn | i thought this was inventory management | 20:14 |
| jebba | well, for frontaccounting, which was one i set up here. | 20:14 |
| kanzure | fenn: jebba dropped me some usernames/passwords for his demos :P | 20:15 |
| jebba | well, inventory management as part of an accounting package. That is frontaccouting, which i set up awhile back. Just now i set up redmine, which is more project management gantt charts, wikis, etc. | 20:15 |
| jebba | though i think it would be cool to have a public view of frontaccounting with obvious things removed (e.g. account numbers) | 20:16 |
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| kanzure | wait what was jblake doing in here | 20:19 |
| kanzure | blah so now the trick is to do good opengl rendering | 20:20 |
| timschmidt | *shrug* povray seems plenty fast | 20:21 |
| timschmidt | but OK | 20:22 |
| timschmidt | brb | 20:22 |
| kanzure | fenn: and you have something against povray? | 20:41 |
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| fenn | i forget | 21:24 |
| kanzure | :( | 21:25 |
| fenn | it just seems like an unnecessarily huge thing just to render some triangles | 21:25 |
| fenn | i thought there was a package called stlviewer, but it seems to have disappeared entirely | 21:25 |
| kanzure | there's always doing something like.. http://cloud.netfabb.com/ | 21:50 |
| kanzure | http://cloud.netfabb.com/index.php?key=587bb2a1e0a2a9b83d5b9c011b6678291958 | 21:50 |
| kanzure | http://cloud.netfabb.com/render/587bb2a1e0a2a9b83d5b9c011b667829-3179/render64_3.jpg | 21:51 |
| kanzure | http://cloudscad.com/stl_viewer | 21:52 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, ever use IRB with the 'net/ssh' gem? | 21:54 |
| kanzure | oops i mean | 21:54 |
| kanzure | http://cloudscad.com/pages/stl_viewer | 21:54 |
| delinquentme | i apologize this is DEFINITELY something for #ruby-lang but no one there has a clue | 21:54 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: i don't do a lot of rails development | 21:54 |
| delinquentme | check. | 21:54 |
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| kanzure | hm stl_viewer is doing a blazing fast 2 fps | 21:56 |
| kanzure | http://github.com/tbuser/three.js/blob/master/examples/stl_viewer.html | 21:57 |
| kanzure | http://github.com/D1plo1d/CadCanvas | 21:57 |
| kanzure | http://www.d1plo1d.com/cad_canvas/examples/gcode_canvas.html | 21:57 |
| kanzure | http://github.com/D1plo1d/three.js | 21:58 |
| kanzure | timschmidt: do you know if there's anything newer than that stuff? | 21:58 |
| fenn | i dont think it's appropriate to rely on a web service, or on something not open source | 22:01 |
| fenn | also, we do need images, not only a 3d javascript thingy | 22:01 |
| timschmidt | no idea | 22:05 |
| timschmidt | I believe tbuser is responsible for cloudscad though | 22:06 |
| kanzure | three.js/raphaeljs are kinda the new hotness | 22:06 |
| timschmidt | stlviewer does 40fps for me | 22:06 |
| kanzure | i do think a mobile html5 app for thumbing around objects would be nice, but fenn's right. | 22:06 |
| timschmidt | on my intel 965 laptop | 22:06 |
| timschmidt | certainly | 22:07 |
| timschmidt | but we might be able to get the source? | 22:07 |
| kanzure | huh? it's javascript- just view the page's source | 22:07 |
| timschmidt | well there you go | 22:07 |
| kanzure | and if not it's not anything too complicated to replicate.. webgl yo | 22:07 |
| kanzure | or the javascript stuff. | 22:07 |
| fenn | one nitpick about that js thing, it only rotates around one axis | 22:08 |
| kanzure | ooh you want multiple axes.. mr. technology over here | 22:09 |
| kanzure | hehe | 22:09 |
| timschmidt | haha | 22:10 |
| kanzure | so goddamned demanding | 22:10 |
| * fenn decides not to elaborate on his immersive environment head tracking idea | 22:11 | |
| kanzure | because it's patent pending? | 22:11 |
| fenn | no, out of spite | 22:12 |
| kanzure | of my unidimensional ways? | 22:12 |
| * kanzure sleeps | 22:13 | |
| kanzure | 'night | 22:13 |
| timschmidt | night | 22:13 |
| fenn | i think this guy is reading your mind http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/blogger/Oliver%20Marks/ | 22:16 |
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| fenn | for all you magnet junkies http://fennetic.net/irc/jawish_subdermal_magnetic_implants.pdf | 22:22 |
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| fenn | i dont get why google goggles only works from a phone | 22:55 |
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| fenn | http://fennetic.net/irc/stl_viewer.png kinda slow, maybe could use some normal python optimizations... pygame oughta be able to save to disk no? | 23:57 |
| fenn | er, save a screenshot | 23:58 |
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