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| kanzure | http://files.minthos.com/space/Markusic%20-%20SpaceX%20Propulsion%20small.pdf | 04:06 |
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| CryptoQuick | heh, that's a little old, Kanz :) | 04:07 |
| kanzure | http://webgl.pythonocc.org/ | 04:09 |
| kanzure | demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GXbfzWV8qk | 04:09 |
| CryptoQuick | sweet! | 04:10 |
| CryptoQuick | I got Chrome dev, so it works fine :) | 04:10 |
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| Utopiah | eeg and rat decapitation http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0016514 | 06:45 |
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| Director_X | good morning all. | 07:57 |
| Director_X | does anyone know if fiber optic lines are bio-safe? | 07:58 |
| Director_X | ...like bare fibers under the skin? Or would they require a coat of other bio-proofing like silicone? | 08:02 |
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| kanzure | poor countries urged to get ready for synthetic biology http://www.scidev.net/en/news/poor-countries-urged-to-get-ready-for-synthetic-biology-1.html?utm_source=link&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=en_news&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter | 08:45 |
| kanzure | blah | 08:45 |
| kanzure | http://www.scidev.net/en/news/poor-countries-urged-to-get-ready-for-synthetic-biology-1.html | 08:45 |
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| kanzure | $1300 assembled 3d printer http://fabbaloo.com/blog/2011/1/6/the-botmill-glider.html | 08:48 |
| kanzure | http://botmill.com/3D-Printers/BotMill-Glider-3-0/prod_94.html | 08:48 |
| kanzure | awful name though for an extruder.. | 08:48 |
| kanzure | "BotMill Glider 3.0 is based on the RepRap project" | 08:48 |
| kanzure | "This printer is based on the RepRap Mendel which can be found here: http://reprap.org/wiki/Mendel" | 08:49 |
| kanzure | gpl violation in progress? i don't see any indication that they ship with schematics or nothin' | 08:49 |
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| jebba | kanzure, i've had that glider on order for a couple+ weeks now. | 08:58 |
| jebba | kanzure if i get it and i see violations i will press them (legally if needed). | 08:59 |
| kanzure | yay | 09:05 |
| kanzure | haha my university is organizing viewing parties for the jeopardy/ibm episode | 09:07 |
| kanzure | interesting that they are planning for a full 3 day event so confidently | 09:08 |
| kanzure | kurzweil's movie can now be purchased here: http://www.transcendentman.com/ | 09:08 |
| kanzure | i'd wait for the torrent, though | 09:08 |
| kanzure | hrm this might be hackable | 09:18 |
| kanzure | http://cdn.topspin.net/secure/media/serve_by_sku/200731/stream/e7900df7.f4v?e=1296321516&authkey=1296321516_1b44eb238c32c2c9dcf99c033ec2a636 | 09:18 |
| kanzure | is the structure of their streamable media links | 09:18 |
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| Lukas___ | Good afternoon | 10:52 |
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| kanzure | git clone git://gitduino.com/gitduino/git/kanzure/dremelfuge.git | 11:06 |
| kanzure | git push git+ssh://gitduino.com/gitduino/git/kanzure/dremelfuge.git | 11:06 |
| kanzure | see results here: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/dremelfuge/ | 11:06 |
| kanzure | obviously this works best if you have an account on diyhpl.us/gnusha/gitduino | 11:06 |
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| kanzure | video about "the hackerspace movement" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wamwklXWK4M | 11:29 |
| kanzure | in case it wasn't obvious, i need some testers for openscad/git integration above.. | 11:36 |
| kanzure | timschmidt seems offline. anyone else? | 11:36 |
| thesnark | No idea what that is. What does testing involve? | 11:39 |
| kanzure | using git to pull, commit and push | 11:40 |
| kanzure | copying an openscad .scad file from the internet or writing your own | 11:40 |
| thesnark | So I can commit garbage? | 11:40 |
| kanzure | no, committing .scad files is preferred | 11:40 |
| thesnark | give me a file to test with and I'll pull, commit and push for you | 11:40 |
| kanzure | the idea is that it renders an image in the end | 11:40 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/dremelfuge/305fce14356203666ebffe6141630bd2b8f240c3/dremelfuge-v4.scad-72422eca27.png | 11:40 |
| kanzure | hm i guess there's .scad files here https://github.com/elmom/MCAD | 11:41 |
| thesnark | ok, where do I clone the repo from? Your clone line above? git clone git://gitduino.com/gitduino/git/kanzure/dremelfuge.git? | 11:42 |
| kanzure | yes | 11:43 |
| thesnark | erm do I need to give you a key or something | 11:44 |
| kanzure | no. try just thesnark@gitduino.com/gitduino/git/kanzure/dremelfuge.git as the clone url | 11:44 |
| thesnark | fatal: Could not switch to 'thesnark@gitduino.com/gitduino/git/kanzure': No such file or directory | 11:45 |
| kanzure | try git+ssh:// | 11:45 |
| thesnark | cloned | 11:46 |
| thesnark | step 2 | 11:46 |
| kanzure | edit the .scad file and commit the changes, or add other scad files of your choice | 11:46 |
| kanzure | like from https://github.com/elmom/MCAD i guess | 11:47 |
| kanzure | unless you're a .scad-writing pro | 11:47 |
| thesnark | never even heard of scad | 11:47 |
| kanzure | http://openscad.org/ | 11:47 |
| thesnark | added and pushed math.scad | 11:48 |
| kanzure | lol i don't think you get it | 11:48 |
| kanzure | what possible 3D model would math.scad have? it sounds like an include file to me | 11:49 |
| thesnark | I must not | 11:49 |
| kanzure | and you pushed? | 11:49 |
| thesnark | I thought I just needed to push any scad file | 11:49 |
| thesnark | yes | 11:49 |
| thesnark | check pm | 11:49 |
| kanzure | realpath not found? what the fuck | 11:50 |
| kanzure | why does realpath work for the user 'bryan' but not 'thesnark'? | 11:50 |
| jebba | kanzure You read Carroll's Hunting of the Snark? :) | 11:54 |
| kanzure | no? | 11:54 |
| jebba | Lewis Carroll. Very good. I like it better than alice even ;) | 11:56 |
| kanzure | oh. realpath doesn't work because post-receive was running as 'thesnark' | 12:14 |
| thesnark | jebba ;) | 12:14 |
| thesnark | His best story imo | 12:14 |
| thesnark | I will try again kanzure | 12:15 |
| kanzure | no don't try again.. it's still broken | 12:15 |
| thesnark | Ok | 12:15 |
| fenn | damn, somehow i totally missed photonics west | 12:55 |
| kanzure | fenn: will you try my openscad commit hooks? (see above instructions) | 13:10 |
| kanzure | should be different for you since you're a full user, not a pinyshell user on gnusha | 13:11 |
| fenn | error: insufficient permission for adding an object to repository database ./objects | 13:19 |
| mjr | Fuck yeah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yysbbPStfWw (kinda spoils the ending, if you care about that sort of thing with this sort of movie; stop around when there's the rollerskate chase after demagnetization to avoid final solutions if you wish.) | 13:26 |
| Lukas___ | xD | 13:34 |
| Lukas___ | what is this? | 13:34 |
| kanzure | fenn: fixed. i forgot to give you access to that repo | 13:38 |
| mjr | a recent Indian film | 13:40 |
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| fenn | remote: mkdir: cannot create directory `/gitduino/data/kanzure/dremelfuge/30a206b03fbe9d0f2c8f44a6ba5824dca5415da3': Permission denied | 13:44 |
| fenn | remote: cp: cannot create regular file `./axes_macro.inc': Permission denied | 13:44 |
| fenn | remote: povray: cannot open the user configuration file /home/fenn/.povray/3.6/povray.conf: No such file or directory | 13:45 |
| kanzure | lovely | 13:45 |
| kanzure | try again | 13:45 |
| fenn | it sure prints a lot of crap.. can you turn on some --quiet flags for pov-ray? | 13:45 |
| kanzure | yes but when i'm done post-receive won't be directly calling povray anyway | 13:46 |
| kanzure | (fork a process) | 13:46 |
| kanzure | hrm povray does not seem to have anything but a verbosity level.. maybe it goes negative/zero | 13:47 |
| fenn | best would be to tee into some error log | 13:48 |
| fenn | er, redirect | 13:48 |
| * fenn waits for openscad... | 13:48 | |
| kanzure | takes forever (where forever=a minute) | 13:48 |
| kanzure | i have no idea why it takes so long.. probably all the qt4-related bullshit | 13:49 |
| kanzure | are you c7e56137c7f97c65f2b42de3d17506d09bc47de8? | 13:50 |
| fenn | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/dremelfuge/c7e56137c7f97c65f2b42de3d17506d09bc47de8/dremelfuge-v4.scad-86dccc5855.png | 13:50 |
| kanzure | hooray. can you try committing multiple .scad files? | 13:50 |
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| fenn | can you just make yourself a dummy user? | 13:50 |
| fenn | `sudo make me a dummy` | 13:51 |
| kanzure | bah | 13:51 |
| kanzure | debugging is more fun when it's social | 13:51 |
| kanzure | also i'm sick today and it's a miracle i'm even doing work | 13:51 |
| fenn | uh, does it matter if they're in the same commit? | 13:55 |
| kanzure | nope | 13:56 |
| kanzure | the idea is to render each revision of each .scad file | 13:56 |
| kanzure | i'm on the fence about enabling .stl rendering.. i don't want to encourage .stl commits :( | 13:56 |
| fenn | wtf | 13:57 |
| fenn | git rebase --onto c7e56137c7f97c65f2b42de3d17506d09bc47de8 | 13:57 |
| fenn | shift: 426: can't shift that many | 13:57 |
| kanzure | what happened? | 13:57 |
| fenn | just fighting with git | 13:58 |
| fenn | needs some more fiddlin | 14:05 |
| fenn | remote: #include "shapes.scad-879f4463c3-model.pov" | 14:05 |
| fenn | remote: #declare main_mesh = m_OpenSCAD_Model | 14:05 |
| fenn | remote: Parse Error: Cannot assign uninitialized identifier. | 14:05 |
| kanzure | oh, right | 14:05 |
| fenn | scad file not getting copied? | 14:05 |
| kanzure | i don't know how to set model name.. other than this: | 14:06 |
| kanzure | model_name=`grep "#declare" "${input_scad_file_path}" | cut -d\ -f2` | 14:06 |
| kanzure | no, i was hardcoding it to model_name=m_OpenSCAD_Model | 14:06 |
| kanzure | anyway, try again | 14:06 |
| fenn | remote: #declare main_mesh = ; | 14:08 |
| fenn | remote: Parse Error: Expected 'RValue to declare', ; found instead | 14:08 |
| kanzure | yeah.. hrm | 14:08 |
| kanzure | commit id? | 14:09 |
| fenn | shapes.scad-4a418534e0.scad is empty | 14:09 |
| fenn | ls -lrt | 14:09 |
| fenn | anyway it's 4933... | 14:09 |
| kanzure | shapes.scad shouldn't be empty if you committed it, that's worrisome | 14:10 |
| kanzure | but more importantly the declare main_mesh = ; means that i'm not grabbing the model name out of the .scad file | 14:10 |
| kanzure | in the case of gears.scad, there is no main object mesh name http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/dremelfuge/4933fad612fa500556f8bb11d52f454151f15d20/gears.scad-75a5b64775.scad | 14:10 |
| kanzure | since it's a function.. openscad has nothing to render | 14:11 |
| kanzure | although how does http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/dremelfuge/4933fad612fa500556f8bb11d52f454151f15d20/gears.scad-75a5b64775.stl have content, then? | 14:11 |
| fenn | but gears renders | 14:11 |
| kanzure | orly? http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/dremelfuge/4933fad612fa500556f8bb11d52f454151f15d20/ | 14:11 |
| kanzure | no .png files | 14:11 |
| kanzure | gears.scad is named OpenSCAD_Model | 14:11 |
| fenn | huh, it worked before | 14:11 |
| kanzure | because i changed it | 14:12 |
| fenn | ok, well, stop making stupid assumptions then | 14:12 |
| kanzure | anyway, i've changed it back.. now why would shapes.scad be of none-size | 14:12 |
| kanzure | umm if you want to see what's going on, check /gitduino/git/kanzure/dremelfuge.git/hooks/post-receive | 14:12 |
| kanzure | i don't know why i'm using bash to script this *shrug* probably the aleve/advil/tylenol talking | 14:14 |
| fenn | is #declare the typical way to make an openscad shape? | 14:15 |
| fenn | also this looks complicated enough to warrant being in revision control | 14:16 |
| kanzure | no the #declare thing is replaced in a povray file | 14:16 |
| kanzure | it's in revision control elsewhere in a repo i haven't shared | 14:16 |
| kanzure | i'm hesitant to share it right this moment because there might be passwords committed and other sensitive shit | 14:16 |
| kanzure | (also a mostly-working solidworks plugin to gitduino, woot) | 14:17 |
| kanzure | actually if you look you'll find it in /home/gitduino/tempname/tn_web/renderbot/post-receive | 14:18 |
| fenn | solidworks plugin? | 14:20 |
| * kanzure nods | 14:20 | |
| fenn | bleh | 14:22 |
| * fenn goes back to bed | 14:22 | |
| kanzure | i make no guarantees of my coding quality when i'm sick | 14:22 |
| fenn | no, just all the .cs stuff, i have no idea what any of it means | 14:23 |
| kanzure | it's unrelated to the post-receive script | 14:23 |
| kanzure | basically it's csharp | 14:23 |
| jrayhawk | where's this povray hook you're making? | 14:25 |
| fenn | /home/gitduino/tempname/tn_web/renderbot/post-receive | 14:25 |
| jrayhawk | golly | 14:26 |
| fenn | buck passed, intiating extrication procedures | 14:26 |
| kanzure | open source flower commons? what http://www.isea2010ruhr.org/files/redaktion/pdf/isea2010_proceedings_p23_tremmel.pdf | 14:44 |
| kanzure | oh probably a seed distribution movement .. thing | 14:44 |
| jebba | Food not Lawns | 14:46 |
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| kanzure | my talk just went up from caltech | 15:48 |
| kanzure | "personal manufacturing and the gada prize" no guarantees on quality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X94jHzFNF4 | 15:48 |
| kanzure | you can also get the 282 MB here: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/humanityplus-at-caltech/Bryan_Bishop_HPlus.mov | 15:49 |
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| gleapsite | A short documentary on a makerspace my girlfriend made: http://vimeo.com/18994485 | 16:02 |
| kanzure | gleapsite: did you see this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wamwklXWK4M | 16:04 |
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| gleapsite | no i havent | 16:08 |
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| jrayhawk | your answer to the question at the end was pretty bad | 16:30 |
| kanzure | yes i agree | 16:31 |
| kanzure | the one about patents? | 16:31 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah. | 16:31 |
| kanzure | what's worse that as i was saying it i knew i could answer it better | 16:31 |
| jrayhawk | Your point was a good one, but, of course, you'd already made it anyway. | 16:32 |
| kanzure | some biohack.me person commented on skdb: http://www.facebook.com/kanzure/posts/143172995743491 | 16:32 |
| kanzure | "Wow, that looks pretty cool; I read some of the skdb code and it dealt with a lot geometry. Guess I know what it's for now! :p I was speaking to some of those implant maniacs, I don't think geometric transforms are a priority for them, a nice looking front end (synaptic-like) might be useful. Was thinking of having a hack in that direction." | 16:33 |
| kanzure | 'synaptic'/uis don't seem like a huge priority while everything else is broken | 16:33 |
| jrayhawk | 'You are using an incompatible web browser.' thanks, dickbags | 16:33 |
| kanzure | try --user-agent="facebook" | 16:34 |
| jrayhawk | nah, they can fuck off | 16:34 |
| kanzure | headaches really suck. you people regularly get these? jeeze | 16:35 |
| jrayhawk | http://www.relieve-migraine-headache.com/barometric-pressure-headache.html | 16:36 |
| jrayhawk | Not me, but I know a few who do. | 16:36 |
| kanzure | i don't think it's weather-related but rather a bug or virus | 16:36 |
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| kanzure | what i really want to know is why i appear to be getting more work done >:o | 16:37 |
| kanzure | sick. | 16:37 |
| jrayhawk | Ah. I occasionally get them as a result of foodbourne toxins. | 16:37 |
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| * jebba goes to watch kanzure's video... | 16:46 | |
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| kanzure | jebba: it's nothing new :) | 16:53 |
| jebba | i'm hanging on every word. I just paused so i could mail the link :) | 16:55 |
| jebba | meh youtube, i got the real one ;) | 16:55 |
| jebba | ah, man, i swear half the phrases you say i've said about this too. Kind of eery the way the hivemind forms or whatever it is. | 17:03 |
| gleapsite | Carl Jung's world mind as realized by the internet. see ref: Borg. | 17:03 |
| kanzure | the borg are pussies | 17:04 |
| gleapsite | oh? | 17:04 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: do you know of a good youtube upload script? i can't upload from my home connection (it would take a few days) | 17:05 |
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| jrayhawk | uh, googlecl? | 17:32 |
| jrayhawk | the best part about the google command line interface is that it is unable to google from the command line | 17:34 |
| jrayhawk | surfraw can, though | 17:34 |
| kanzure | oh man. google youtube post --category Music /home/marius/Videos/Softpedia_Test.wmv | 17:34 |
| kanzure | awesome | 17:34 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 18:02 |
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| jebba | surfraw ftw :) | 18:16 |
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| jrayhawk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVqX4VMocwo pipe extruder/bender | 18:23 |
| JayDugger | Did anyone here read a paper comparing various package managers? | 18:33 |
| JayDugger | Not recent, 2-5 years old. | 18:34 |
| JayDugger | Might have mentioned Nix? | 18:35 |
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| jennicide | what field of study would h+ fall under? | 21:05 |
| fenn | narcissism | 21:14 |
| JayDugger | :) | 21:14 |
| jrayhawk | It's first and foremost an ideology, so that would be philosophy. | 21:17 |
| jrayhawk | Most of the people in here probably qualify more as engineers, though. | 21:17 |
| jennicide | oh | 21:19 |
| jrayhawk | why do you want to kill jenni, anyway | 21:25 |
| jennicide | say it outloud | 21:27 |
| fenn | all the jens, obviously | 21:30 |
| jrayhawk | i said it out loud and now people are looking at me funny THIS WAS ALL A TRICK | 21:55 |
| jennicide | genocide | 21:55 |
| jrayhawk | You can't make me! | 21:56 |
| jrayhawk | Oh, surfraw can't actually do google searches. That's dumb. | 21:57 |
| fenn | what's the rationale behind that? | 21:58 |
| jrayhawk | No idea, now. It seemed like a good idea until I found out what it actually was. | 21:58 |
| jrayhawk | I guess it's like crap version of vimperator or uzbl | 21:59 |
| fenn | i thought it was just mostly unmaintained | 21:59 |
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| delinquentme | im assuming some people in here have played with arduinos .. im trying to figure out what my options are for robust communication between an arduino mega .. and a server. What are the protocols and what would the corresponding cables be | 22:53 |
| fenn | usb, serial (rs232), ethernet | 23:02 |
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