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| Utopiah | http://www.thelifelapseexperiment.com | 00:44 |
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| kanzure | synchronized quroum of genetic clocks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbaWC2GDYJQ | 07:13 |
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| kanzure | allen buchanan's book is now up on nature.com "the ethics of biomedical enhancement" http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v470/n7332/full/470035a.html | 07:57 |
| kanzure | i'm usually not one for promoting links to anything about ethics, but i think this is an ok exception | 07:57 |
| kanzure | except that it costs money >:o | 07:58 |
| JayDugger | Inter-Library Loan? | 08:33 |
| JayDugger | Check Worldcat.org for the nearest library with a copy, and then fill out a form at your local library. | 08:33 |
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| kanzure | JayDugger: i don't want to actually grab a copy of that, it's just a review/writeup | 08:51 |
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| JayDugger | Is it just me, or do the various 3d printers have little worth beyond bootstrapping themselves to better performance and closing the self-replicating loop? | 09:24 |
| Utopiah | self-replicating loop? | 09:26 |
| Utopiah | (brat voice) are we there yet? | 09:26 |
| JayDugger | Device X can build N% of its own components. | 09:26 |
| JayDugger | I imagine Freitas has a term for this in his book, kinematic self-replicating machines, but it escapes my memory. | 09:27 |
| Utopiah | yes I mean I understand the principle (at least I hope so) yet I think in practice I wouldn't say we are anywhere close to that but I guess it depends on your criteria | 09:28 |
| JayDugger | Fair enough. I wanted to hear justifications for waiting to buy one, | 09:29 |
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| JayDugger | which ought to clearly come from my bank statements. | 09:30 |
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| JayDugger | Hmm... | 10:08 |
| JayDugger | log.lasersaur.com redirects to a Flickr photo set | 10:08 |
| JayDugger | http://www.flickr.com/photos/stfnix/sets/72157624491114826/detail/ | 10:09 |
| JayDugger | I have more use for a laser cutter than a printer, but right now I have even more use for a snow shovel. | 10:10 |
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| ybit | who are the members of biocurious? | 10:38 |
| ybit | ..outside of joseph jackson.. | 10:38 |
| ybit | and tito | 10:38 |
| ybit | and eri | 10:38 |
| ybit | actually... | 10:38 |
| ybit | well, yeah, that question still applies, but i'm curious what everyone does outside of biocurious | 10:39 |
| ybit | eri is Communications and Technology Officer at yale | 10:40 |
| ybit | yale alumni | 10:40 |
| ybit | i'm not really sure what that entails | 10:41 |
| ybit | oh i see | 10:41 |
| * ybit starts to ponder in his head instead of irc.. | 10:41 | |
| kanzure | ybit: eri is not someone i'd associate with | 10:43 |
| kanzure | see pm | 10:43 |
| kanzure | biocurious members/people: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/biocurious-people.txt | 10:44 |
| ybit | thanks | 10:44 |
| kanzure | if you need a more thorough list you can parse meetlog.txt yourself | 10:46 |
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| Lukas_ | Hullo | 10:56 |
| ENKI-][ | http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/8537/eiri.jpg <-- eri? | 11:02 |
| ThomasEgi | ENKI-][, that's god, as seen in serial experiments lain? | 11:16 |
| ThomasEgi | protip; dont duct-tape your hair. | 11:17 |
| kanzure | heh html5 protein viewer http://jolecule.appspot.com/ | 11:17 |
| Lukas_ | nifty | 11:18 |
| ybit | http://www.erc-assoc.org/ | 11:27 |
| ybit | one interesting erc: http://www.synberc.org/ | 11:27 |
| ybit | eri gentry is an advisor for synberc | 11:28 |
| ybit | i don't have exposures to positions like this | 11:29 |
| ybit | what do advisors and consultants do | 11:29 |
| ENKI-][ | ThomasEgi: it's eri masami, from serial experiments lain | 11:30 |
| ybit | it seems like a highly unstable job | 11:30 |
| ENKI-][ | keep in mind his backstory | 11:30 |
| ENKI-][ | a human codemonkey in charge of implementing an IP stack makes an AI replica of himself and gives it control over traffic | 11:30 |
| ENKI-][ | then suicides | 11:31 |
| kanzure | ybit: they sit around and send emails to each other | 11:32 |
| kanzure | it's just social circlejerking | 11:32 |
| ybit | http://wimserc.org/research_highlights/research_highlights.php | 11:32 |
| ENKI-][ | and because the company he produced the IP stack for has a monopoly on devices (tachibana is basically apple in a microsoft-less world, so his code is running on everything from the dominant computing platform to phones and pdas) he controls basically the whole internet | 11:32 |
| ThomasEgi | in short. a god^ | 11:34 |
| ENKI-][ | only on the internet | 12:22 |
| ENKI-][ | he got around that by inventing a wireless protocol that had the ability to use the microwave auditory effect to interface directly with people's brains | 12:22 |
| ENKI-][ | i'm glad someone else here has seen the show, though | 12:23 |
| ENKI-][ | i have seen it twenty three times | 12:23 |
| ybit | i'm guessing adam t. is adam till | 12:24 |
| * ybit is stalking biocurious-people.txt | 12:25 | |
| ybit | i'm guessing not everyone is a biocurious member | 12:28 |
| ybit | most of these must have donated money to get them started | 12:28 |
| ybit | amazing how many are from the d.c. area | 12:33 |
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| ybit | umkay | 13:12 |
| ybit | i've got an html file.. | 13:12 |
| ybit | suppose i could just upload it to, er, filebin | 13:12 |
| ybit | hrm | 13:13 |
| ybit | filebin is down | 13:13 |
| ybit | could upload to my vps | 13:13 |
| ybit | umkay | 13:14 |
| ybit | guess i'll do that :) | 13:14 |
| ybit | http://173.230.131.72/biocurious-people.html | 13:26 |
| kanzure | ybit: here's an updated list http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/biocurious-people.txt | 13:32 |
| ybit | Will Reinhardt | 13:33 |
| ybit | ^ignore | 13:34 |
| ybit | i pasted by accident | 13:36 |
| jebba | wowza. Got some arcol.hu hotends today (reprap stuff). Fantástico: http://www.alephobjects.com/photos/hotends/arcol/unboxing/ | 13:50 |
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| ybit | hrm, the bay area is where it's at right now | 14:16 |
| kanzure | um.. yes | 14:29 |
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| AlonzoTG | om | 15:24 |
| * AlonzoTG is suffering from profound cognitive dissonance. | 15:24 | |
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| AlonzoTG | =\ | 15:28 |
| AlonzoTG | Cognitive dissonance: The posthumanists insisting that I should be pro-uploading, and that there is something wrong with me for not doing it. And then my co-worker telling me that I should wipe out the portion of my mind that I keep in my computer just because I'm experiencing some minor glitches. | 15:29 |
| Lukas_ | Hullo | 15:29 |
| kanzure | AlonzoTG: you're the only insisting that others are insisting they upload you-or-else | 15:30 |
| AlonzoTG | No. | 15:30 |
| AlonzoTG | I have proof. | 15:31 |
| AlonzoTG | Almost all discussion of the future on exi-chat assumes that the earth and everything I've ever cared about in my entire life, or is within my emotional capacity to care, has been wiped out in favor of computronium. | 15:33 |
| AlonzoTG | =( | 15:33 |
| kanzure | nope.. is it possible that you're delusional | 15:33 |
| AlonzoTG | Sorry, you're wrong. | 15:33 |
| AlonzoTG | =\ | 15:33 |
| kanzure | haha. extropy-chat does not believe the world has been converted into computronium | 15:34 |
| AlonzoTG | no, but that it will be. | 15:34 |
| kanzure | *shrug* it might, it's also possible that you will turn into a rooster | 15:34 |
| AlonzoTG | Okay, so where are the transhumanists advocating humanoid space exploration? | 15:36 |
| AlonzoTG | -- NAILED. | 15:36 |
| kanzure | spacecollective | 15:36 |
| Lukas_ | *raises hand* | 15:36 |
| AlonzoTG | ok, good. | 15:37 |
| kanzure | can you stop being so paranoid | 15:38 |
| AlonzoTG | This channel seems to be a tiny island of sanity amidst the cracked pots of transhumanism. =\ | 15:38 |
| Lukas_ | Sounds about right | 15:39 |
| AlonzoTG | Okay, kanzure: explain Eugene Leitl. | 15:39 |
| kanzure | what about him? | 15:40 |
| kanzure | he sometimes hangs out in here | 15:40 |
| AlonzoTG | explain his positions to me. | 15:40 |
| kanzure | no thanks.. you can go ask him yourself. he tends to argue with technology | 15:40 |
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| Lukas_ | Spacecollective is interesting | 16:06 |
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| Unknown19389 | or is it more a bunch of collective works | 17:02 |
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| kanzure | heh i might get access to kurzweilai.net | 18:00 |
| kanzure | p.s. stop giving me root | 18:01 |
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| Lukas_ | Hey Kanzure | 18:12 |
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| kanzure | hello Lukas_ | 18:18 |
| Lukas_ | How are your projects coming along? | 18:19 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 22:32 |
| ybit | morning JayDugger | 22:48 |
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