2011-02-05.log

--- Log opened Sat Feb 05 00:00:10 2011
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joshcryerSo reality TV.01:04
joshcryerIt's garbage.01:04
joshcryerI want to see real reality TV.01:04
joshcryerWhere you effectively spy on someones life, like The Truman Show.01:04
joshcryerIf you want to get rich set up a site that does this.01:05
joshcryerHave people volunteer for their lives to be watched every minute of every day.01:05
joshcryerOnce you get a million subscribers pick one (preferrably attractive with some weird crappy family stuff going on).01:05
joshcryerThey will have volunteered to have their house, car, and effectively their entire lives be watched privately.01:06
joshcryerThen you watch 'em for 5 years, and release the video after that point.01:07
joshcryerI'll never forget being so naive / stupid / duped about The Greatest Race.01:07
joshcryerI thought they really were going to take people, drop them off in some country somewhere with their passport, and they were to get home, somehow. No help from the camera crew.01:08
joshcryerStupid reality TV is the greatest con job capitalist media has ever invented. :(01:09
joshcryerThe only show I really liked was The Mole, but it was more of a live action adventure game.01:11
Utopiah[naive question warning] is there a kind of table of elements for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_machine ?02:02
JayDuggerYou mean something like the periodic table of visualization methods or the periodic table of perl operators to the periodic table of pseudoscience, but for meachanisms?02:21
Utopiahyes, some structure starting of with the basics and useful for beginners02:22
JayDuggerI don't know off the top of my head. If I find one, I'll bookmark it. http://www.delicious.com/popular/periodictable might make a good place to start02:23
Utopiahok, thanks02:25
JayDuggerPeriodic Table of Bar & Grill Food (menu as periodic table)02:36
JayDuggervia gizmodo, somewhat funny once.02:36
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JayDuggerPeriodic Table of British Swear Words...02:39
JayDuggerIf I mention a period table here, you can find it bookmarked at delicious.com/jay.dugger/periodictable.02:41
Utopiahthere should just be a meta periodic table then02:43
JayDuggerI found a link to the periodic table of periodic tables, but haven't yet checked it.02:43
JayDuggerIt occurs to me that studying the history of the periodic table would tell about the various schema that failed.02:44
JayDuggerAnd here's the internet database of periodic tables.02:44
JayDuggerFlickr photoset (6 images) from NASA of their visit to Bigelow Aerospace facility yesterday.02:48
JayDuggerhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/nasahqphoto/sets/72157625851963211/with/5417058338/02:48
JayDuggerHa! one image shows a mural on the facility wall: Mars rising from one of its moons!02:52
JayDuggerNow that's corporate art that inspires.02:52
joshcryerI don't see it.02:59
JayDuggerFar right of the image.02:59
JayDuggerViewed at an oblique angle.02:59
joshcryerAhah! Nice.02:59
JayDuggerNot the best painting, but full marks otherwise.03:00
joshcryerYeah, I was looking for photorealism so it didn't even register. Nice spotting though.03:00
JayDuggerI didn't notice it either until I looked at the original size. Even then, I found it only because I looked at the background for chromatic aberratio.03:01
JayDuggeraberration.03:01
ThomasEgigimp can fix the perspective :303:02
ThomasEgihttp://home.arcor.de/positiveelectron/files/marsmoon.jpg03:04
JayDuggerNicely, done!03:05
JayDuggerAnd fast, too.03:07
Utopiahwelcome to CSI ;)03:08
ThomasEgiCSI uses visual basic to trace you ;) oh and they have 3 petapixel-surveillance cameras!03:10
ThomasEgiso... screw hubble.. kets ask them to take a few shots of the sky03:10
UtopiahI guess everybody here knows about it but just in case http://thebigblogtheory.wordpress.com (a la http://numb3rs.wolfram.com )03:38
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Utopiahnew videos from http://www.youtube.com/user/WholeBrainCatalog (YT homepage finally makes sense)05:49
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timschmidtkanzure: http://theenergycollective.com/michaelgiberson/51062/cold-snap-brings-rolling-power-outages-texas-ercot-policy-isolation-fault06:25
kanzureyeah.. that's why i wasn't around the other day06:29
kanzureoff for 45min, on for 10min.. completely useless.06:29
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klafka1wow that sucks06:43
klafka1oh global warming06:43
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fennapophenia07:17
JayDuggerAustin had what, all of 2" of snow?07:23
ThomasEgidid i hear snow?07:24
JayDuggerI'll say snow.07:24
ThomasEgiwhere?07:24
JayDuggerDallas, Texas at least, and many other places in North America too.07:25
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JayDuggerOf course, summer will arrive all too soon. :(07:25
thesnarkSomebody's _not_ looking forward to summer?07:25
Lukas_New York got pounded with ice and snow07:26
JayDuggerHigh electricity bills, temperatures over a hundred F, painfully bright sunlight, no.07:26
JayDuggerI dislike summer.07:26
* ThomasEgi remembers his good old days on the mountain where 3 meters snow where concidered totaly normal07:26
Lukas_As do I Jaydugger07:27
Lukas_but this winter is too much07:27
thesnarkThomasEgi yeah I think people tend to make snow a bigger deal than it is sometimes07:27
Lukas_I don't mind the cold07:27
Lukas_but this is a pain07:27
JayDuggerI like having the local roads to myself.07:27
thesnarkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMzeiMJQrvk which is why this video is so funny07:27
thesnarkthey can't handle like 2 inches =P07:27
ThomasEgi2 inches.. :D lol07:28
JayDuggerYeah. In all fairness, snow isn't bad. Ice is worse, and DFW has 4-5 inches of snow atop 1-2 inches of ice.07:28
ThomasEgi4wd  doesnt compensate for bad tires and zero driving skill07:28
JayDuggerNope. It just allows a more impressive set of mistakes.07:28
ThomasEgiespecially read-wheel-drive..07:29
ThomasEgitotaly reminds of that airhockey tables :D07:29
JayDuggerYeah. Driving in snow in high winds is no fun, so it could get much worse.07:30
JayDuggerAnd $0.02 for the off-topic jar.07:30
kanzurewe had less than 2in of snow07:30
kanzureit was more like slush anyway. i personally don't believe snow is a real thing and you're all just making it up.07:30
JayDuggerHeh, heh...07:30
ThomasEgiJayDugger, i concider "knowing when not to drive" a driving skill ;)07:30
kanzurefenn: what's up?07:31
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kanzurehttp://www.science20.com/eye_brainstorm/blog/should_we_worry_about_antimakers-7591608:49
thesnarkhaters gonna hate08:52
kanzureit's sensationalist drivel.08:53
thesnarkWelcome to news in America08:53
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maykobecause if i sat down and designed a bomb, i'd definitely put blinking LEDs on it.08:56
thesnarkIt's really an essential part of the design08:57
AlonzoTG=\08:57
AlonzoTGBeing banned from Extropia Core in SL is beginning to grate again. =\08:58
AlonzoTGAlso, not having any posting privs on Exi-chat is also annoying.08:58
ThomasEgimayko, what color?08:58
ThomasEgiand would you also use colored ribbon cables?08:58
AlonzoTGChatrooms are OK, but you can't really spell out a ten page treatise in chat.08:58
kanzurethesnark: i'd hire you in an instant to build my bombs08:59
kanzurebugs are piling up on me over here09:00
ThomasEgikanzure, what would you pay for one ;)09:00
kanzurefor one of the bugs to be fixed?09:00
kanzuredepends on which project09:00
kanzurebut definitely $100+ for a few of these09:00
thesnarkSweet! I also double as a delivery man! ;)09:00
ThomasEgina. for a well designed man^09:00
ThomasEgibomb^09:01
ThomasEgiwhy did reading thesnark's last word replace my "bomb" with "man"?09:01
thesnarkDear NSA/FBI, I am completely joking and don't even know how to make bombs or want to.09:01
ThomasEgibrains are strange.09:01
kanzureAlonzoTG: i'll probably regret this but humanity+ has a mailing list too, which has about the same audience as extropy-chat http://www.transhumanism.org/mailman/listinfo/wta-talk09:01
kanzurejust in case anyone is wondering why i'm still bothering with humanity+, it's a conduit for money and fundraising for open source transhuman tech projects09:02
thesnarkkanzure That's good enough for me!09:02
thesnark$$$ is king09:02
kanzurewhile i have your attention..09:03
kanzureany suggestions for revamping hplusmagazine.com or using it in a better way would be appreciated09:04
kanzurethere's about 2,000 to 3,000 subscribers that regularly (daily) read it09:04
kanzureand sometimes the traffic spikes to 10k uniques on a good day09:04
kanzurebut there's no regular keyword traffic09:04
kanzureactually it's really weird like that, after 1000+ articles you'd think the site would have stumbled on a niche keyword that has regular sustained traffic09:04
thesnarkkanzure I realize there is a search bar, however I think from a usability perspective it could be useful to group entries by general subject09:05
thesnarkmaybe in a menu somewhere09:06
kanzurehttp://hplusmagazine.com/archive has the categories09:06
kanzurei don't know why they have so many categories though09:06
thesnarkgah whoops09:06
thesnarkYeah09:06
thesnarkWhat I'm getting at is people don't always know what they're looking for09:06
thesnarkso maybe start with general subjects and branch into more specific things09:07
thesnarklike a tree, except with menus09:07
thesnarkand09:07
thesnarknot too specific09:07
kanzureso.. your suggestion is for me or someone else to manually go and recategorize all 1100 articles?09:07
thesnarkWell, maybe you wouldn't have to do that09:07
maykooh definitely green09:08
maykoand they count down the time09:08
maykobut not any time in particular09:09
thesnarkI don't really like wired but for example they have their site broken into "sections"09:09
maykoand start, stop and reset for no good reason09:09
thesnarkSo if I just want to know what hplusmagazine has to say about self replicating sex bots, I can generally know where to look for it09:10
thesnarkand see a set of broadly related articles at the same time09:10
kanzurei'm not sure how to figure out "article usefulness" because to me everything on it is old news even when it's being posted for the first time09:10
thesnarkhm09:10
kanzureso from my perspective everything is old, stale, and not useful to anyone unless they have been living under a rock09:10
kanzureben goertzel has written a few overview articles that tend to be interesting from a "popular science" perspective, like his recent femtotech article09:11
kanzurebut i don't know why he didn't just spend that time working on nanotech problems anyway09:11
* thesnark is significantly off his game this morning, back later09:11
kanzureinstead of writing :)09:11
thesnarkbe back later*09:11
kanzureok thesnark, cya09:11
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kanzurethesnark: btw, "sexbots" is one of the top keywords that gives traffic to the site09:12
kanzureso you nailed that.09:12
kanzureit's not like it's 1,000x more popular than previous sites i've managed, so it's hard to tell if there's really regular traffic here that i should be taking advantage of in some way09:18
kanzureit's maybe more like 50x to 100x the traffic to, say, heybryan.org, but i don't really trust google analytics like that :P09:18
kanzurealso, i have no idea what's going on here.. seems to be a biopython/bioperl/bioruby code sharing site? http://biocoders.net/09:19
ThomasEgikanzure, how about satisfying that incredible demand ;)10:03
kanzure?10:07
kanzuredemand for what10:07
ThomasEgiall those 1000x people who land on the page due to their keywords10:14
AlonzoTGyeah, /me needs a gf.10:23
kanzureI'm finishing up the draft grand prize (gada prize) document. Did I ever decide whether or not it's supposed to allow submissions that were "only open source if they win the prize money" ?10:28
kanzureyeah, nevermind. no.10:39
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Lukas_I don't see anything wrong with the blog12:24
Lukas_http://www.science20.com/eye_brainstorm/blog/should_we_worry_about_antimakers-7591612:24
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UtopiahFacilitate Insight by Non-Invasive Brain Stimulation http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.001665513:38
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Lukas_hullo16:39
kanzurehello16:44
kanzuremy hobby: hanging out in irc channels offering brilliant programming advice that is subtly wrong in very important ways17:00
Lukas_:D17:34
ThomasEgikanzure, sounds legit17:34
Lukas_Hullo ThomasEgi17:38
ThomasEgihi Lukas_17:38
Lukas_I think I found a lab that I want to do some volunteer work in, the PhD has an interesting ethical framework17:40
Lukas_very much like Kevin Warwick17:40
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kanzureben hyink's diybio-chicago offshoot http://chicagobioscience.wordpress.com/18:03
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JayDuggerGood evening, everyone.23:12
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