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| fenn | change video0 to video1 i guess | 00:30 |
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| kanzure | what do i say to something like this? | 06:03 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/nanoengineer-dev/browse_thread/thread/2b9015f414c3fe50 | 06:03 |
| drazak | kanzure: | 06:08 |
| drazak | kanzure: I won't be around until later today | 06:08 |
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| kanzure | got 1k hits yesterday because qwantz linked over to the blog http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1901 | 06:31 |
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| kanzure | http://anonleaks.ru/ | 06:56 |
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| kanzure | why don't i know where to buy drugs (like nootropics) on the web? | 08:15 |
| strages | for those on twitter, these are excellent accounts to follow https://twitter.com/#!/NASATechBriefs and https://twitter.com/#!/NASA_CASI | 08:15 |
| strages | I had no idea there was this amount of research from NASA available to the public | 08:16 |
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| kanzure | strages: have you seen the reports that robert freitas was involved in? | 08:19 |
| kanzure | like "advanced automated for space missions" http://www.islandone.org/MMSG/aasm/ | 08:21 |
| kanzure | trying to find it on nasa.gov.. this looks like one related part? http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=409928&id=1&as=false&or=false&qs=Ntt%3DTechnology%2Bassessment%2Bof%2Badvanced%2Bautomation%2Bfor%2Bspace%2Bmissions%257c%2522advanced%2Bautomation%2Bfor%2Bspace%2Bmissions%2522%26Ntk%3Dall%257call%26Ntx%3Dmode%2Bmatchall%257cmode%2Bmatchall%26Ns%3DArchiveName%257c0%26N%3D42 | 08:21 |
| kanzure | or this? http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=805036&id=2&as=false&or=false&qs=Ntt%3DTechnology%2Bassessment%2Bof%2Badvanced%2Bautomation%2Bfor%2Bspace%2Bmissions%257c%2522advanced%2Bautomation%2Bfor%2Bspace%2Bmissions%2522%26Ntk%3Dall%257call%26Ntx%3Dmode%2Bmatchall%257cmode%2Bmatchall%26Ns%3DArchiveName%257c0%26N%3D42 | 08:21 |
| kanzure | on a related note i just stumbled on this: "advanced space exploration program art" http://er.jsc.nasa.gov/seh/advart.html | 08:23 |
| jebba | I once went to a small musem that had "art in space" with paintings by Grant Wood of astrounauts getting suited up in the 60s, Andy Warhol painting a shuttle, etc. They had astronaut spacewalk gloves there too with a bunch of legos so you could try working with them. Was really cool. | 08:28 |
| strages | I see some of this stuff, I work at Marshall Space Flight Center | 08:28 |
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| kanzure | biologigaragen spirulina incubator http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdTDj_Iv-hk | 09:53 |
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| Director_X | dag. wish ThomasEGI was around. | 10:01 |
| Director_X | here is a general rfid question if anyone can answer it... | 10:02 |
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| Jon_D | anybody here have read about the mesa effect ? | 10:03 |
| Director_X | i want to have a 4 function motor hooked hooked up to an on/off switch controled by the rfid... | 10:03 |
| Director_X | can I program it to turn on after it has received an rfid signal for 10 solid seconds? | 10:04 |
| Director_X | is that easy? never worked w/rfid before. | 10:05 |
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| Director_X | hows it going Lukas? | 10:08 |
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| thesnark | kanzure do you have a space for hardware hacking down there in Austin? | 10:09 |
| Jon_D | kanzure is evil ? | 10:09 |
| Jon_D | vice ? | 10:10 |
| Lukas_ | GOOD NEWS! | 10:10 |
| archels | Director_X, that would depend on the microcontroller. | 10:10 |
| kanzure | thesnark: yeah i have spaces | 10:10 |
| thesnark | kanzure also, what happened to promise pyramid? =P | 10:10 |
| Jon_D | hacking is not democratic | 10:10 |
| thesnark | kanzure seemed very...promising | 10:10 |
| kanzure | thesnark: :) | 10:11 |
| Lukas_ | I pitched an the idea of starting an iGEM team at my school, we now have a number of professors and 25 biomedical engineering students interested | 10:11 |
| Lukas_ | :D | 10:11 |
| kanzure | thesnark: i still have some code for it laying around. | 10:11 |
| kanzure | it's taking back seat while i work on some other more urgent projects | 10:11 |
| Director_X | lukas: nice! | 10:11 |
| Lukas_ | So right now I am in the middle of a full blow orgasm | 10:11 |
| Lukas_ | nerdgasm* | 10:12 |
| Director_X | lol | 10:12 |
| Lukas_ | yup | 10:12 |
| archels | Director_X, is the RFID reader 'hackable' at all? Could you give some more info on your hardware setup? | 10:13 |
| Lukas_ | I would love to stay and explain, but I've suddenly become very, very busy (I just wanted to see if the room was alive) | 10:13 |
| Director_X | have fun Lukas, keep me posted | 10:14 |
| Jon_D | facebook is better than IRC sometime | 10:15 |
| Director_X | Archels: I don't have anything set up at this point, but I know I need an rfid "on" switch... | 10:15 |
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| archels | An RFID reader is a complex integrated system. I'm sure you can get units that just trigger an on/off switch, but there's usually some room for sticking your own firmware on the transceiver, which makes it do what you want. | 10:16 |
| archels | Are you looking into buying something ready-made, or perhaps a Project (note the capital)? | 10:18 |
| Director_X | this is a prototype for a project I'm doing | 10:18 |
| archels | Any hardware purchased yet? | 10:19 |
| Director_X | none | 10:19 |
| Director_X | this is micro-sized stuff | 10:19 |
| Director_X | just need a cell phone/ pager motor | 10:20 |
| Director_X | i just need it to turn on with an rfid, then cycle through 4 different pulses | 10:21 |
| Director_X | hopefully by using additional rfid signals' | 10:21 |
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| Director_X | then turn off with the rfid, of course | 10:23 |
| archels | Sounds like a job for a microcontroller (I take it using a PC is not an option). | 10:23 |
| Director_X | no | 10:24 |
| archels | You may be able to find a development kit that has the hardware you need. | 10:24 |
| Director_X | really? | 10:24 |
| Director_X | the greater project can be found here: http://discuss.biohack.me/discussion/41/haptic-subdermals-with-interchangable-sensors#Item_23 | 10:25 |
| Director_X | brb | 10:27 |
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| archels | I don't understand what the point is of implanting the vibrators when the sensors are still going to be external. Vibrator motors are pretty large, too. | 10:29 |
| archels | Not to mention power-hungry. Magnetic induction would work, electromagnetic transfer... maybe. | 10:31 |
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| Director_X | yeah, I only need 15 min of on time | 10:32 |
| archels | Did you see my previous two lines? | 10:33 |
| Director_X | yes | 10:34 |
| Director_X | the problem is I can't find a sensor that I'd consider implanting | 10:34 |
| archels | Yes, so why implant at all? | 10:35 |
| Director_X | ultrasonic might be my first | 10:35 |
| Director_X | dont get me wrong, I 'm all for im planting something down the road, when things are smaller | 10:36 |
| Director_X | cell phone buzzers aren't too big | 10:36 |
| archels | Well, you'll need the energy transfer mechanism as well (coil or antenna). | 10:38 |
| archels | I can understand implanting a fully contained system, but if you'll still be wearing a belt or something right on top of the implants, what's the point? | 10:38 |
| Director_X | right. thats why I'm prototyping first | 10:39 |
| Director_X | I want to play with it before I commit to it | 10:39 |
| archels | How is prototyping going to change that? I still haven't heard your motivation for implanting the actuators rather than wearing them. | 10:40 |
| Director_X | my logic here is that I can program them to all kinds of different sensors....ultrasound, x-ray, whatever | 10:41 |
| Director_X | but I want to use the same actuators | 10:42 |
| archels | Sure, I understand that, and it's a cool idea. But that still doesn't preclude a wearable device with exchangable sensor module. | 10:42 |
| archels | So again: why implant? | 10:42 |
| Director_X | step one is to design the implants and tape them to my body. step to is to experimaent with the sensors. if I find one useful, I'll implant it | 10:44 |
| Director_X | does that make sense? | 10:45 |
| Director_X | step to= step 2 | 10:45 |
| archels | Okay, so the eventual goal is to implant a fully self-contained system. | 10:45 |
| Director_X | sure, but I think this leaves room for multiple sensors if I choose to play with more | 10:46 |
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| archels | Well, anyway. RFID is a term for a pretty specific system. You want something that, like RFID, uses magnetic coils to transfer power (and information), but that's all the relation it'll have to RFID. | 10:49 |
| Director_X | gotcha | 10:49 |
| Director_X | bluetooth? | 10:50 |
| archels | No, far too complex, and it doesn't transfer significant energy. | 10:50 |
| archels | Essentially, you're on your own. | 10:50 |
| Director_X | fair enough. thanks | 10:51 |
| archels | There are some projects that do wireless energy transfer using loops, for powering microcontrollers. You could possibly adapt those. | 10:51 |
| Director_X | cool. I'll look into it | 10:51 |
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| kanzure | https://github.com/tbuser/thingiview.js | 11:00 |
| kanzure | http://replimat.com/thingiview/examples | 11:00 |
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| kanzure | http://blog.thingiverse.com/2011/02/17/thingiview-js/ | 11:01 |
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| Jon_D | hacking could make the world more free or give to a group a totalitarian regime, like with the technocrats | 11:26 |
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| drazak | kanzure: ping | 15:11 |
| kanzure | pong | 15:11 |
| kanzure | what was i going to tell you anyway | 15:11 |
| drazak | kanzure: we were going to talk about the STM/AFM project | 15:18 |
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| kanzure | fenn: are you around | 15:39 |
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| Tyrant | kanzure, do you know any people who are experts at diy scientific instruments? | 17:34 |
| Tyrant | either industry or university, "diy" used loosely | 17:34 |
| kanzure | what do you mean by expert? | 17:34 |
| kanzure | thiel foundation can ask me for contacts if they want | 17:35 |
| ThomasEgi | and what kind of instruments? | 17:35 |
| kanzure | ThomasEgi: diy scientific instruments, so basically any of this: | 17:35 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit/skdb/plain/doc/BOMs/diybio-equipment.yaml | 17:36 |
| kanzure | Tyrant: but yes | 17:36 |
| ThomasEgi | so biological instruments... well in the electrical field there are a number of diy instruments | 17:37 |
| kanzure | yep | 17:38 |
| kanzure | really most biology equipment is just electronics | 17:38 |
| kanzure | for instance, a centrifuge doesn't have any living components | 17:39 |
| ThomasEgi | but is mostly mechanic^ | 17:39 |
| kanzure | ok fine | 17:39 |
| kanzure | electromechanical | 17:39 |
| Tyrant | expert as in in the industry | 17:40 |
| Tyrant | and yes diy in general | 17:40 |
| kanzure | yep. sure. send them my way. | 17:43 |
| Tyrant | I'll send joseph your way | 17:44 |
| kanzure | joseph? he's the one asking for thiel foundation? | 17:44 |
| Tyrant | yep | 17:46 |
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| drazak | kanzure: I used a thiel tube today, any relation? | 18:31 |
| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 18:32 |
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| kanzure | reprap grand prize guidelines i wrote have been 'officially approved' | 20:57 |
| kanzure | so it's a go | 20:57 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/gadastuff/reprapgrandprize.v0.3.pdf | 20:57 |
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| jebba | looks good. :) | 21:53 |
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| kanzure | apparently they were approved 7 days ago | 22:13 |
| kanzure | but since they all thought i was on the board, they didn't tell me | 22:13 |
| kanzure | "oh you didn't vote?" | 22:13 |
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| jebba | hahha | 22:28 |
| jebba | g2g now back to home from our new warehouse/office/etc :) | 22:29 |
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| Technicus | Has there been any progress on the Emokit hak? | 23:15 |
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