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| jrayhawk | $300 is a lot, but I guess that might be necessary in order to get people to self-moderate. | 00:15 |
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| jrayhawk | At least, in the context of politics. | 00:17 |
| jrayhawk | The SA Forums also follows a 'pay a nonrefundable deposit if you want to be here' model. $10 has clearly not been enough motivation for people to keep the politics section sane. | 00:23 |
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| fenn | Members of Silicon Valley Transhumanist Meetup Group, Your Organizer, James Clement, just stepped down without nominating a replacement. ithout an Organizer, Silicon Valley Transhumanist Meetup Group will shut down on March 23, 2011. Step up to become this Meetup Group's Organizer and you can guide its future direction! | 03:45 |
| fenn | reminds me a kurzweil graph http://www.genome.gov/images/content/cost_per_genome.jpg | 03:56 |
| dbolser | fenn: my colleague projects that graph below zero | 04:11 |
| dbolser | i.e. companies will pay for your genetic data as a commodity | 04:11 |
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| Director_X | good morning. I've come for wisdom. | 07:12 |
| Director_X | I want to use a pancake vibration motor in reverse to charge batteries. kind of like a kinetic watch charger. Should be easy, right? | 07:14 |
| Director_X | I need a way to control the flow of power so that the motor charges the batteries when the device is off (from the kinetic swinginging of the weight inside), and then reverses when the device is turned back on. Is there something that would control that? | 07:33 |
| fenn | a diode and a transistor, but i question your original concept | 07:51 |
| fenn | basically what you want to do is called regenerative braking | 07:52 |
| fenn | your swinging motor will only generate a few tens of millivolts at most, you'd need a ridiculously efficient boost converter to charge a battery | 07:53 |
| kanzure | hi fenn | 07:54 |
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| fenn | i wonder why anyone would want a watch that needs to be charged constantly | 07:58 |
| fenn | my watch has been going for years with no charging at all | 07:59 |
| fenn | must be the same thing that drives people to buy digimons | 08:00 |
| ThomasEgi | Director_X, in theory , yes. but it wont work in practice | 08:00 |
| fenn | er, tomagotchi | 08:01 |
| Director_X | thanks fenn. | 08:01 |
| Director_X | Why is that ThomasEgi? | 08:01 |
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| ThomasEgi | as fen said . your voltages are too low to do something worthwile | 08:02 |
| ThomasEgi | and even if... there wont be enough overall energy | 08:03 |
| fenn | yeah, tanstaafl.. go get a solar cell | 08:03 |
| ThomasEgi | solar would work a lot better already. | 08:04 |
| ThomasEgi | but probably still not what he is looking for | 08:05 |
| fenn | he only wants the impossible | 08:05 |
| Director_X | is that too much to ask for? | 08:06 |
| ThomasEgi | for powering motors . there is no real way around induction | 08:06 |
| Director_X | maybe a piezo spring with a weight suspended on one and connected to a mechanical energy converter? | 08:07 |
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| fenn | go get one of those shake 'em flashlights and see how much energy you get out of shaking a weight | 08:08 |
| ThomasEgi | a motor eats some 50mA | 08:08 |
| fenn | a tiny one | 08:08 |
| ThomasEgi | those energy harvesting things produc 3 orders of magnitude less | 08:09 |
| Director_X | I need 3v, 95mA for 15 min run time | 08:10 |
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| Director_X | 3 day charge time | 08:10 |
| ThomasEgi | then get a mini helicopter battery and inductlve charging | 08:11 |
| ThomasEgi | sry4 typos. im on a new layout. | 08:11 |
| fenn | hell you could probably charge a capacitor from stray radio waves | 08:11 |
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| ThomasEgi | fenn.. which makes then thing run how many seconds?.. 2? | 08:12 |
| fenn | uh, yeah | 08:12 |
| Director_X | fenn, I like those shake light chargers. I wonder if I could use a magnet-weighted spring to mimick the same effect? | 08:13 |
| fenn | anyway, i dont do hypothetical engineering, share your idea or gtfo | 08:13 |
| ThomasEgi | http://discuss.biohack.me/discussion/55/lovetron9000-content-warning | 08:13 |
| ThomasEgi | i guess.. | 08:13 |
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| fenn | i see. inductive charging it is then | 08:14 |
| Director_X | damn, | 08:14 |
| ThomasEgi | same conclusion on my end | 08:15 |
| fenn | good luck trying to explain that, if you ever get laid | 08:15 |
| ThomasEgi | put a magnet in your hand and stroke-charge | 08:16 |
| Director_X | I have a magnet in my hand | 08:16 |
| ThomasEgi | strong one | 08:17 |
| Director_X | I pick up paper clips. its not that strong | 08:17 |
| Director_X | also, it's in my left hand and I'm a righty | 08:18 |
| fenn | Director_X: you know you can buy a wearable version for not very much | 08:19 |
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| Director_X | yeah, but it ruins the element of surprise | 08:20 |
| fenn | not sure i believe the 40 minute run time http://www.amazon.com/Minute-Vibrating-Performance-Penis-Ring/dp/tech-data/B002UKTWV6 | 08:20 |
| ThomasEgi | unless you feel like implanting a fleshlight (pun intended) it would be the inductive way to go. | 08:20 |
| Director_X | there is a big market for these things in the body modification community beleive it or not. | 08:21 |
| Director_X | sell them for $1000 a peice easy | 08:23 |
| fenn | better have insurance in case one explodes then | 08:24 |
| Director_X | covered | 08:24 |
| * fenn cringes at the thought | 08:24 | |
| Director_X | worst case senerio, I need a prosthetic. god help them then | 08:25 |
| Director_X | joking | 08:25 |
| fenn | read "more than the sum of his parts" | 08:26 |
| fenn | http://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction/more-than-the-sum-of-his-parts/ | 08:26 |
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| kanzure | where is genehacker | 08:32 |
| Director_X | sweet. good story fenn. lets do that instead. | 08:45 |
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| kanzure | http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2011/03/09/patent-overhaul-bill-passes-in-us-senate/ | 09:36 |
| kanzure | ""The Senate easily passed a bill on Tuesday that would overhaul the nation’s patent system, giving the Patent and Trademark Office more flexibility to control its own financing and changing the system to one that rewards the first inventor to file a valid application." | 09:36 |
| kanzure | "The change in the application system was favored by the large technology and pharmaceutical companies, which argued that it would put the United States in sync with other national patent offices around the world and make it easier to settle disputes about who has the right to a certain innovation." | 09:36 |
| kanzure | "Many smaller companies and inventors opposed the change, however, arguing that it favored companies that could hire legions of lawyers to quickly file applications for new permutations in manufacturing or product design."" | 09:36 |
| fenn | meh | 09:49 |
| fenn | business as usual | 09:49 |
| fenn | they should get rid of the 1896 style typography requirements while at it | 09:49 |
| kanzure | we should go to libya and claim we're the new libyan people's republic's patent office | 09:50 |
| kanzure | and just do things right. | 09:50 |
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| ybit | ping jebba | 10:30 |
| ybit | adafruit has the best captcha | 10:30 |
| ybit | bottom of page: http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2011/03/09/patent-overhaul-bill-passes-in-us-senate/ | 10:30 |
| ybit | best meaning my favorite | 10:34 |
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| fenn | completely automated program to tell humans and colorblind humans apart | 11:00 |
| kanzure | http://www.treehotel.se/sv/rummen/the-cabin | 11:03 |
| kanzure | (url is mostly self-explanatory) | 11:03 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 16:35 |
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| Lukas | Good evening | 17:16 |
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| ybit | jebba: i'll ping you tomorrow i suppose :P | 18:17 |
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| kanzure | beep | 20:06 |
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| jebba | pong ybit | 20:52 |
| jebba | :) | 20:52 |
| ybit | jebba: pongy poo | 21:10 |
| ybit | i've really got to stop it with the cheesy pingy poo/pongy poo | 21:10 |
| ybit | jebba: who's my little pingy poo? | 21:11 |
| ybit | jebba: ybit: you're my little pongy poo. | 21:11 |
| ybit | riight. | 21:12 |
| ybit | i'm having filesystem read/write errors, corrupted fs :\ | 21:12 |
| ybit | all those papers fenn and kanzure gave me :\ | 21:13 |
| ybit | then there were the papers i personally retrieved, and all the servers that i was given permission to rape | 21:14 |
| ybit | maybe it can be recovered | 21:14 |
| ybit | 06:51 < kanzure> DNA logic gates called 'transcriptional switches' | 21:16 |
| ybit | 06:51 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Wittig_cohort | 21:16 |
| ybit | kanzure: whatever happened to this? | 21:16 |
| ybit | kanzure: you are the fourth search result, heybryan.org/winfree.html, for the term +winfree biological transistor | 21:19 |
| ybit | the first for winfree logic gates | 21:21 |
| ybit | http://www.dna.caltech.edu/DNAresearch_publications.html | 21:23 |
| ybit | i remember reading that winfree page on heybryan | 21:23 |
| ybit | but i forget all of it | 21:24 |
| ybit | <- fail | 21:24 |
| ybit | the paper that got all the attention back in the day :: http://www.dna.caltech.edu/Papers/DNA_logic_circuits2006.pdf :: "Enzyme-Free Nucleic Acid Logic Circuits." | 21:27 |
| kanzure | there's a recent winfree-lab paper where they used DNA to construct 2D patterns of carbon nanotube circuits | 21:40 |
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| kanzure | by recent i mean 'more recent' not 'this year' | 21:40 |
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| ybit | Microfluidic logic gates and timers | 23:49 |
| ybit | http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Microfluidic+logic+gates+and+timers | 23:50 |
| ybit | first link | 23:50 |
| ybit | anyone able to retrieve? | 23:51 |
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