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| ybit | looking for whole brain simulation of a fruit fly | 01:58 |
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| ybit | http://web.neurobio.arizona.edu/Flybrain/html/index.html | 02:01 |
| ybit | how many neurons is the blue brain supposed to be emulating? | 02:07 |
| dbolser | ybit: is that ibm? | 02:08 |
| dbolser | did you see this? http://brainblogger.com/2010/12/18/a-brain-made-of-memristors/ | 02:09 |
| Utopiah | dbolser: yes, posted here last december with http://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/artificial-intelligence/moneta-a-mind-made-from-memristors/0 | 02:11 |
| Utopiah | ybit: http://bluebrain.epfl.ch/page18924.html#13 (but probably outdated) | 02:13 |
| dbolser | Utopiah: I suspected as much | 02:14 |
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| JayDugger | Ha! Anders Sandberg's RPG work finally gets published. | 02:18 |
| JayDugger | http://e23.sjgames.com/item.html?id=SJG37-6711 | 02:18 |
| JayDugger | Some of it, anyway. | 02:19 |
| ybit | only 50,000 neurons :( | 02:22 |
| ybit | that's disappointing | 02:22 |
| ybit | not even a fourth of the size of a frut fly's brain | 02:23 |
| ybit | what are they doing differently, people have been emulating 50,000 neurons for awhile now | 02:25 |
| ybit | dbolser: thanks for the link, no i didn't see that when it was posted | 02:29 |
| Utopiah | they'd say they do it more realistically (can't say more since I didn't read any of their publication, 0 news on their website either for a while) | 02:29 |
| ybit | and Utopiah thanks for the linkage as well | 02:29 |
| Utopiah | np | 02:29 |
| ybit | their publications are shady on details | 02:29 |
| ybit | time to fix this | 02:29 |
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| ybit | welp, think that's about it | 04:07 |
| ybit | gave 700 people the shaft on facebook | 04:07 |
| ybit | left only the people who would be interested in science related matters | 04:08 |
| ybit | about to see if it's worth anything, i just know there has to be a better way | 04:08 |
| ybit | i'm guessing irc + grep + email ftw | 04:09 |
| ybit | and google | 04:09 |
| ybit | and some form of bryan's meetlog | 04:09 |
| JayDugger | Good. Perhaps it'll start a trend. | 04:09 |
| ybit | hrm? | 04:10 |
| JayDugger | I keep offering to block facebook.com for my girlfriend's birthday. She won't accept it, though. | 04:10 |
| ybit | probably should just make a note of all these people, what groups they are in and then never use it again | 04:12 |
| ybit | and rely on email + irc | 04:12 |
| ybit | 04:12 | |
| ybit | yup | 04:14 |
| ybit | i'm losing interest in wta-talk and humanity+ mailing lists | 04:27 |
| ybit | i'm tired of circle jerks | 04:27 |
| ybit | not all of it, but maybe i'm just grumpy/tired atm | 04:28 |
| kanzure | ybit: make sure you make a very noisy exit | 04:33 |
| kanzure | carissa just woke me up via phone to ask "are you in NYC" oof | 04:34 |
| kanzure | (the answer is no, and now my ultrathingiverse dream is gone..) | 04:35 |
| kanzure | ybit: since it's an exit, you can be as frank and honest about everything | 04:36 |
| JayDugger | Try switching to the digests for a while. | 04:44 |
| JayDugger | Give it some time, then unsubscribe. | 04:45 |
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| JayDugger | What is this, [tt] has a post on the Georgia Guidestones? | 09:04 |
| JayDugger | WTF. | 09:04 |
| JayDugger | !NEWS: America is full of weirdos. Always has been. | 09:05 |
| JayDugger | Just ask the Pilgrims or the Mormons or the Quakers or the etc., etc., etc. | 09:05 |
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| kanzure | "So, as much as I'd rather be anonymously and insurgently orchestrating the next Golden Age from the comfort of a Secret Fortress of Arrogance deep beneath the Himalayas, you have to make do with the tools at hand" | 10:33 |
| kanzure | bah eric hunting just lost all his hero points | 10:33 |
| kanzure | eric should physically move his house to be on factorefarm | 10:34 |
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| ENKI-][ | i don't have posts about the georgia guidestones, but i have a post about the argentine gnomes | 10:52 |
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| kanzure | "limitless" looks like it might be an ok movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THE_hhk1Gzc | 12:03 |
| archels | Sounds a lot like a book I once read... | 12:10 |
| archels | Alan Glynn - The Dark Fields | 12:11 |
| archels | I guess the Wall Street part of the story follows pretty naturally from the 'superintelligence' premiss. | 12:11 |
| kanzure | because apparently all people hopped up on smart drugs go play the stock market | 12:13 |
| uniqanomaly | apparently those who play stock market haven't heard about nash equilibrium | 12:19 |
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| kanzure | it's funny seeing all these people trying to fix opencascade | 13:04 |
| kanzure | http://groups.google.com/group/oce-dev | 13:04 |
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| ybit | kanzure: lol | 13:22 |
| ybit | re: make a noisy exit :P | 13:22 |
| ybit | i just needed better oganization of my emails, i think that was the problem | 13:23 |
| kanzure | 4chan busting out a transhumanism discussion http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/dspl_thread.php5?thread_id=2653286&x=Transhumanism+Discussion | 13:26 |
| ybit | i was being swamped with these emails, digest is a good idea.. that's essentially what the labels/archive method has done for me on gmail | 13:26 |
| kanzure | (4chanarchive.org is always ad-spam infested so just use a sandboxed browser) | 13:26 |
| uniqanomaly | prediction: luddites will die out because they're too retarded to move forward xD | 13:43 |
| uniqanomaly | alright, that was too simple | 13:43 |
| uniqanomaly | ok, I was tatally wrong, worms still exist, right | 13:45 |
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| uniqanomaly | question is: retarded or just not developed | 13:47 |
| uniqanomaly | see ya in the future | 13:48 |
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| kanzure | it's really weird seeing max more asking for nootropic advice from the extropians | 14:29 |
| kanzure | all of the responses seem really outdated | 14:29 |
| kanzure | i guess i should just start telling people to read imminst's forums | 14:29 |
| kanzure | http://www.longecity.org/forum/forum/169-nootropics/ | 14:29 |
| uniqanomaly | is he banned from wikipedia? | 14:30 |
| uniqanomaly | alright, not funny | 14:30 |
| kanzure | i doubt wikipedia has more smart drug info than imminst, simply because a lot of imminst's member work has been on random personal experiments (which are probably worthless, but whatever, it's something) | 14:32 |
| QuantumG | uniqanomaly: I imagine honest luddites already have reduced lifespans.. but there's not actually that many of those. | 14:37 |
| uniqanomaly | screw luddites, they will die out soon enough | 14:38 |
| uniqanomaly | although they'll leave their retarded/luddite offspring | 14:39 |
| uniqanomaly | ;< | 14:39 |
| QuantumG | perhaps one day the Earth will become so screwed up that unprotected humans have a much reduced lifespan? | 14:39 |
| uniqanomaly | I hope policy then will be: free upgrades for anyone who isn't luddite | 14:40 |
| QuantumG | or maybe all manual labor will be eliminated by robots and only by becoming sophisticated with technology can you earn a living... although I expect we'll still have a massive welfare system | 14:40 |
| ybit | hrm.... | 14:41 |
| ybit | my most recent google voice transcript is kind of scary :D | 14:41 |
| ybit | Ohh. Ciao, our it okay bye hey, bye bye. But. But bye bye bye bye, okay bye bye okay that. Okay bye. Thanks. Bye. Hello, Okay. Hey I call. Hello. Pat. Bye. Yeah. Hello, but yeah. Hey, bye bye bye. How could. Okay, all I have, Hi Yo. Hey, hey it's. Hello hello, hey ybit. Total loss. Victor hey bye okay bye Work, peace. Hello, the, hey. | 14:42 |
| uniqanomaly | yeah, some socialism would make sense | 14:42 |
| ybit | that was a family member calling me without realizing they were calling, it was just them driving down the road | 14:42 |
| ybit | "hey ybit." is the scary part | 14:42 |
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| ybit | not really scared, just kind of annoyed that they may be keeping up with my online identity | 14:43 |
| kanzure | now you know how i feel ever since "grandma bishop" knows you guys' names | 14:44 |
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| kanzure | are any of you looking for a project that might make some money? | 15:43 |
| kanzure | ybit i think you should do what i have in mind but you don't sound interested in anything :P | 15:43 |
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| JayDugger | Volcano real estate costs for the same reason all real estate costs. | 17:30 |
| JayDugger | 1) Location, location, location. | 17:30 |
| JayDugger | 2) Mad scientists all have too much money for their own good. | 17:31 |
| JayDugger | 2 a) This inflates prices. | 17:31 |
| JayDugger | 2 b) I blame Fannie Mae. | 17:31 |
| JayDugger | 3) Everybody has good reason to conceal their waste heat. | 17:31 |
| JayDugger | 4) Everybody wants cheap thermal power. | 17:32 |
| JayDugger | 5) Tradition. | 17:32 |
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| kanzure | ugh humanity+ won't pay their bill | 19:38 |
| JayDugger | No volcano base for thee. | 19:39 |
| JayDugger | Are you liable for the debt? | 19:40 |
| kanzure | no it was contracting work | 19:44 |
| kanzure | and they were going to pay me hourly | 19:44 |
| JayDugger | Oh, owed to you then? | 19:44 |
| JayDugger | Lame... | 19:44 |
| kanzure | i quoted them a stupid low rate because i was being nice and underpricing myself by about $60/hour | 19:44 |
| JayDugger | You know better now, right? | 19:45 |
| QuantumG | why'd you tweet that Daniel Werneck douch? | 19:45 |
| kanzure | me? | 19:45 |
| kanzure | so what's really lame is that tom's in my extra room right now | 19:46 |
| kanzure | if he's president of humanity+ shouldn't i just go break his legs or something | 19:46 |
| QuantumG | sure | 19:46 |
| kanzure | i'm not even charging him for his week-long stay for sxsw | 19:46 |
| JayDugger | No, but you should ask for your money. | 19:46 |
| JayDugger | Politely. | 19:46 |
| kanzure | rooms are going for $500/day since everything is booked beyond supply | 19:46 |
| kanzure | which is kind of dumb since $3,500 is more than what h+ owes me | 19:47 |
| kanzure | honestly it's kind of not worth my time to argue over <$3,000 | 19:47 |
| JayDugger | Then forgive the debt and remember the problem. | 19:47 |
| ferrouswheel | kanzure are they debating that you are owed the money or just taking forever to process it? | 19:48 |
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| JayDugger | QuantumG, as preparation for arguing with my ignorant co-workersl | 19:48 |
| JayDugger | s/l./ | 19:49 |
| JayDugger | s/l/./ | 19:49 |
| kanzure | ferrouswheel: they are tacking on more items that are unfinished | 19:49 |
| kanzure | because it wasn't really a formal contract that we started with.. "port drupal site to wordpress" | 19:49 |
| QuantumG | great.. there *is* no safe level of radiation.. there's just various degrees of bad | 19:49 |
| JayDugger | Fair point. I mean "commonly acceptable risk" by "safe." | 19:50 |
| ferrouswheel | So do the unfinished things and charge for more hours? Or was the agreement a fixed number of hours for a task? | 19:51 |
| ferrouswheel | kanzure - after I once did work without a formal contract and spent months chasing the money (which I really needed at the time) I swear I'm always going to insist on a contract now. With late payment penalties. | 19:51 |
| kanzure | bbl | 19:52 |
| kanzure | taking tom to dinner? | 19:52 |
| JayDugger | Have fun! | 19:53 |
| JayDugger | I don't see the American NRC banning granite counter-tops anytime soon. | 19:54 |
| JayDugger | What questions did you ask Eric Lerner on The Space Show, BTW? | 19:56 |
| QuantumG | I believe I said something like "every time you talk about space you bore me to death.. and this is apparently the space show.. so try again" | 19:59 |
| JayDugger | Ha. | 20:00 |
| QuantumG | he did say a couple of interesting things though | 20:00 |
| QuantumG | someone called in who had obviously read my blog post.. didn't remember much of it.. and asked Lerner how he'd do it. | 20:00 |
| QuantumG | Lerner talked about running more than one focus fusion chamber off the same capacitor bank | 20:01 |
| QuantumG | it's the first time I've ever heard him describe a rocket that might actually work | 20:01 |
| JayDugger | Good night, everyone. Time to commute. | 20:04 |
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| ybit | kanzure: yeah, it's a good idea, but i'm not interested in starting anything right now | 21:29 |
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| kanzure | ybit: you don't know the idea :) | 21:40 |
| kanzure | i'm looking to find someone i know to do this instead of me doing it | 21:40 |
| kanzure | because i'm busy with a few things right now | 21:40 |
| kanzure | and better a friend than .. well, someone not a friend | 21:40 |
| kanzure | basically, sedo.com is a market for buying/selling domain names | 21:41 |
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| kanzure | i hate squatters as much as the next guy | 21:41 |
| kanzure | but what if domain owners (who don't want to sell for a low price) could lease their domain out? | 21:41 |
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| kanzure | users would pay a monthly rent and the contract could specify "2 years at $50/mo and at any time buy out for $10k" | 21:42 |
| kanzure | something like 130 million registered domains, i figure 1 million that might be interesting | 21:42 |
| kanzure | .. at best. | 21:42 |
| kanzure | so the concept is to make a company that arranges that and does auto-payment for everything, and takes 10% | 21:43 |
| kanzure | there are other contracts possible, like % of revenue, % equity of a company, or anything else really | 21:44 |
| kanzure | owners who want to sell for $1M are out of luck- that rarely happens, and they should adjust their market prices down to meet demand | 21:45 |
| kanzure | i.e., nobody is going to buy banana.com for $20M | 21:45 |
| * ybit gives the thumbs up | 21:46 | |
| kanzure | but if you're really holding out for that mega-buyout, then renting/leasing makes more sense | 21:46 |
| kanzure | so again, i don't have time for this | 21:47 |
| * ybit is still passing | 21:47 | |
| kanzure | and better one of you freaks than some other freak | 21:47 |
| kanzure | bah | 21:47 |
| kanzure | you're lame | 21:47 |
| ybit | i know | 21:47 |
| kanzure | i've pitched you porn, hardware, domain names, nootropics, dna synthesis, what's the deal | 21:47 |
| ybit | wait, porn, when? | 21:47 |
| kanzure | forget it | 21:47 |
| kanzure | :p | 21:48 |
| ybit | i'm barely doing good to stay afloat, i am lame | 21:48 |
| ybit | think i gave all the reasons a few weeks ago | 21:48 |
| kanzure | ferrouswheel: ok, i broke tom's legs | 21:50 |
| kanzure | he says he'll pay. | 21:50 |
| ybit | heh | 21:50 |
| kanzure | Tyrant: he has like a direct line to peter thiel's phone and inbox if you want me to put any good words for you | 21:51 |
| kanzure | *put in | 21:51 |
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| Tyrant | Sorry who does? | 21:57 |
| Tyrant | And yes that'd be great, thank you | 21:57 |
| kanzure | tom | 21:57 |
| Tyrant | I'll bee meeting him on the 2nd day of the final round so that'll really help | 21:57 |
| kanzure | tom mccabe.. he's doing 20under20 too except for some reason he knows peter | 21:58 |
| kanzure | damn fucken nepotism and bullshit | 21:58 |
| kanzure | i just call it as i see it | 21:58 |
| Tyrant | it's the way the world runs unfortunately | 21:59 |
| kanzure | nah that's just what you're taught | 22:00 |
| Tyrant | How does tom know Thiel? | 22:05 |
| Tyrant | Only tom mccabe's i've found are some really old guy | 22:05 |
| kanzure | listed at the bottom here: http://humanityplus.org/about/board/201008elections/ | 22:07 |
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| Tyrant | yale? nice | 22:17 |
| Tyrant | im curious to see the qualifications of all the other candidates | 22:18 |
| Tyrant | everyone i've heard of so far is like stanford, yale, mit, etc. | 22:18 |
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| kanzure | lol what why is life extension foundation paying $15,000 for their ad to be on hplusmagazine.com | 22:21 |
| Tyrant | nice | 22:22 |
| Tyrant | lol | 22:22 |
| kanzure | out of 272,000 impressions the ad has had 442 clicks | 22:22 |
| kanzure | $33/click. nice. | 22:22 |
| Tyrant | over what time period? | 22:24 |
| kanzure | 3 months | 22:25 |
| kanzure | this is all so sad | 22:25 |
| * kanzure gets back to work on stuff that matters | 22:25 | |
| Tyrant | well i hope they converted on every oen of those clicks | 22:26 |
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| kanzure | probably not | 22:27 |
| kanzure | nobody has 100% conversion | 22:27 |
| Tyrant | well sucks for them | 22:39 |
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